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| 02:40.40 | *** topic/#gsoc is | Google Code-in: https://g.co/gci | Google Summer of Code: https://g.co/gsoc | |
| 03:09.40 | r0bby | Snow-Man: hey -- so I have strong opinions on this -- I believe that mentors need to at least have someone vouch for them -- last year I had people who were vouched for but otherwise not involved with our project but I ultimately relented and let them in -- this year however I'm being much stricter and having far better vetting. |
| 03:11.13 | r0bby | What you should do instead is immediately divert and help onboard them to become contributors and reconsider them for next year -- odds of this happening is pretty slim -- they probably just want to mentor with little interest in doing work but let's assume good faith I guess |
| 03:12.39 | r0bby | I helped to draft the policy on this for DIAL -- mostly learned everything i know from downey :) |
| 03:15.23 | r0bby | I personally don't do GCI for the glory or fame -- I do it because I find it worth all the effort -- just realizing that the kids DO genuinely appreciate our effort |
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| 03:58.01 | bshah | is any other GCI organization getting email from totally random people wanting to mentor? |
| 04:10.59 | r0bby | bshah: pretty much all of us are getting randos approaching us to mentor and I've denied all of them but did exactly as I advised others to do: diverted and started the onboarding process |
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| 06:59.26 | Freso | Snow-Man: I'm not accepting anyone as mentors I don't know to already be contributors to one of our projects (or otherwise active in the community). |
| 07:00.14 | Freso | Also, the e-mails are not new to this year. I think we've gotten them for all of our three prior years too. Maybe there are more this year, but they're definitely not exclusive to this year. |
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| 07:27.55 | valorie | we've always gotten a few other years |
| 07:28.07 | valorie | but it's really a *lot* this year in KDE |
| 07:40.11 | Freso | "I was a GCI 2017 mentor at Sugar Labs. I have a great knowledge about open source community." Great! ⦠But why are you applying with us then, instead of with them again? |
| 07:40.38 | Freso | I feel like all but one of our "applicants" are also really untargeted. |
| 07:41.07 | Freso | I think they just write up the e-mail and then add in all the org. addresses as BCC's and hit send. |
| 07:41.35 | Freso | Well, I guess not BCC's, maybe they actually do take the time to copy/paste to 20 or how many we are this year mails. |
| 07:45.06 | bshah | I feel like this emails are coming from single university |
| 07:45.22 | bshah | I've seen at least 3 emails from same univesity address |
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| 07:48.48 | Freso | Which one? The latest one I've gotten is from an @gmail one. |
| 07:49.12 | Freso | And I currently at the MusicBrainz summit with a bunch of Indians, so I might want to ask them. |
| 07:49.14 | Freso | Actually⦠|
| 07:49.54 | Freso | iliekcomputers: ^ Any clue? Do *IT's suggest students to do GCI mentoring? |
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| 07:50.36 | Freso | Darnit it rsh7, I was just about to ping you too. But I guess you can't see the backscroll either. Maybe iliekcomputers can show you. :) |
| 07:50.56 | bshah | Freso: yeah, it's mostly IITs |
| 07:51.06 | bshah | which I totally find weird |
| 07:51.59 | Freso | (I learned yesterday that apparently each region of India has an IIT, NIT, *and* an IIIT.) |
| 07:52.05 | bshah | heh |
| 07:52.18 | bshah | Freso: you're in India atm? :D |
| 07:52.24 | Freso | No, in Barcelona. |
| 07:52.27 | bshah | ah okay |
| 07:52.39 | Freso | https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/MusicBrainz_Summit/18#Attendees |
| 07:53.00 | Freso | 7 Indian attendees. |
| 07:53.21 | Freso | And I think all are former GSoC student (this year or previous years). |
| 07:53.47 | Freso | Yeah, 4 from this year, 3 from last year. |
| 07:54.01 | bshah | heh, all found same flight going to barcelona xXD |
| 07:54.17 | Freso | They sneakily coordinated their invasion! |
| 07:54.18 | rsh7 | Freso: whats up? |
| 07:55.06 | bshah | rsh7: we were wondering if IITs were suggesting students to become GCI mentors? Since I am not in IIT I would never know |
| 07:55.24 | Freso | rsh7: We're just wondering about the rise of people (which is mostly Indians, as also per our talk yesterday⦠though I can't remember if you were part of that) "applying" to be GCI mentors with org.s that they have no prior history with is possibly encouraged by the *ITs. |
| 07:56.49 | rsh7 | Ah okay! |
| 07:59.03 | rsh7 | Are iit's encouraging the students :o, i didnt know |
| 07:59.33 | bshah | ... to be mentors xD |
| 08:00.11 | bshah | or maybe it is some LUG somewhere which advertised the GCI and people jumped on it or something |
| 08:01.31 | bshah | anyway... as r0bby said, no point in discussing this much, we better onboard them as contributors ;) |
| 08:07.11 | iliekcomputers | It's almost definitely not the institutes |
| 08:08.02 | iliekcomputers | Probably just the students being overenthusiastic |
| 08:08.26 | Freso | Yeah. I've tried to encourage them to get active in MetaBrainz when they write me and apply again next year. :) |
| 08:09.04 | Freso | (As it is though, UTC+0530 is already heavily represented at https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Google_Code-in/2018#Mentors ð) |
| 08:09.16 | iliekcomputers | <3 <3 |
| 08:10.04 | Freso | iliekcomputers: â¤ï¸ |
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| 08:20.17 | r0bby | I feel as if the value placed on the certificate is a bit much |
| 08:21.05 | r0bby | it's nice and all but it doesn't say anything...you could have reviewed a total of one task and get one -- which says litttle to nothing about your skills |
| 08:27.48 | Freso | Yeah. |
| 08:28.30 | Freso | But eh. Such is true of a lot of things in this modern world. |
| 08:33.31 | r0bby | Definately |
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| 19:57.41 | downey | r0bby: the auto-generated certificate for BOINC projects, e.g. SETI@home, include the current amount of data processed. might be something that GCI certificates could do someday. Probably something for Robert_S or bluesomewhere to consider |
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| 21:56.33 | r0bby | That would be good but that doesn't factor in say Org Admins who may me mentors for an umbrella org |
| 21:56.43 | r0bby | Org Admins may not review as many tasks |
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