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08:20.51SamP__Hello!
08:21.11SamP__I am interested in applying for GSoC 2019
08:21.59SamP__The institute that suits my interest, hasn't replied to any of my emails.
08:22.31tbrdo they list any other contact options? How long has it been?
08:24.12SamP__They only have their email listed on the GSoC website.
08:24.58FresoSamP__: Then considering waiting for them to get back to you, or consider applying for/with/to someone else.
08:25.07SamP__The first email I sent them was on the 1st of march
08:25.19FresoThat's not very long ago.
08:25.36SamP__True
08:25.43FresoIt's morning of March 4th now, March 2nd and 3rd were a weekend.
08:25.53FresoThere's a good chance no one has even seen your e-mail yet.
08:26.13SamP__Alright!
08:26.30SamP__I will wait and hunt for some other organizations
08:26.43SamP__Thanks :-)
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08:43.12Fresohttps://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/027/475/Screen_Shot_2018-10-25_at_11.02.15_AM.jpg
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11:48.18cheetah@MarkSabatella Hi
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15:11.42kumarihello
15:13.14teepee-hi
15:14.46kumarimy query is i know only core java and i want to learn something from GSOC, can i do that?
15:15.01teepee-sure
15:16.05teepee-it's your task to propose the project and plan for the GSoC time frame
15:16.33teepee-so probably don't go for the most difficult project :)
15:16.48kumariok, i m a btech cs 3rd year student can i be endulge in a project between may-june 2019?
15:17.28teepee-whatever the timeline says, I don't have the dates memorized
15:17.42teepee-!timeline
15:17.42gsocbotteepee-: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
15:17.46kumariyea sure, i dont want any difficult one, i just want to learn something from GSOC, can you tell what can i probably do as i have no idea in this
15:19.01teepee-how can anyone else know? select something interesting, motivation is a big part in succeeding I think
15:19.45kumarii mean u have completed some projects right??
15:20.41teepee-not as GSoC student, but otherwise yes, quite a lot :)
15:20.49kumariso u can tell what type of projects one can do on Java
15:21.04kumariok, so are u a developer??
15:21.32teepee-I am, and maybe mentor again this year, we'll see
15:22.40kumariok
15:27.13kumariplease tell me how can i be enrolled for GSOC as a student?
15:28.22teepee-did you read the student guide yet? this should give a good outline of the process
15:28.33kumariyes
15:29.39teepee-so with which step do you need help?
15:30.17kumariafter that complete student terms, what should i do?
15:31.50teepee-I don't know what you mean with "complete student terms"
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17:31.13pranjalhi am i supposed to submit the project application task before proposal or with proposal
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17:34.19teepee-pranjal: what do you mean with application task? the coding?
17:41.42pranjal@teepee https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2019/Projects i was looking at their project ideas and some other org as well they've  these application tasks for every project which involves coding and design
17:42.52vmbrasseurpranjal: You should ask the Debian team how they would like you to proceed.
17:43.13vmbrasseurDifferent orgs will handle applications differently.
17:44.28pranjalhmm thanks i will ask them
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20:08.39*** topic/#gsoc is | Google Summer of Code: https://g.co/gsoc | Google Code-in https://g.co/gci |
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20:20.27rikstrI've read the GSoC handbook, but does anyone have any blog posts or other resources they want to share with more tips on creating a good proposal?
20:22.34fundamentalhttps://www.pvk.ca/Blog/2014/03/23/what-i-look-for-in-gsoc-proposals/ was an interesting read
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20:23.32rikstrfundamental: thank you, I'll take a look at it!
20:25.25rikstrI think the hardest part is coming up with the timeline and dividing up the project into chunks. It's not easy to estimate the timing.
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21:15.28Fresorikstr: That's one of the reasons to get started early. The sooner you have your first draft of an application up, the more iterations you and your org can make of it before you need to submit the final one.
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21:21.37rikstrFreso: solid point, I'll try to have it up as soon as I can
21:27.07dishank[m]guys
21:27.15dishank[m]org list is out
21:27.26dishank[m]https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations
21:27.47rikstrdishank[m]: yes, it's been out since last week :)
21:28.14dishank[m]hi @valorie @olly @meflin
21:28.45ollydon't just randomly highlight lists of people
21:28.47ollythat's rude
21:28.56ollyyou didn't even ask a question...
21:29.07dishank[m]lol i forgot. replied to old comments.
21:29.30dishank[m]there were 700+ msgs XD
21:29.41vmbrasseurdishank[m]: Also, not everyone here is a "guy".
21:30.53dishank[m]mmm!! sorry
21:31.07dishank[m]but i didnt meant it that way
21:31.27ollyin what way was "hi <list of people>" a reply to old comments?
21:32.06dishank[m]sorry
21:32.33dishank[m]actually u helped me a week ago with the matrix irc
21:33.02dishank[m]so just saying hi as a good gesture
21:33.16dishank[m]sorry for highlight thing
21:33.41rikstrvmbrasseur: I'm guilty of using  guys to refer to both men and women out of habit. I think I'll try to use peeps"
21:33.45rikstrfrom now on
21:34.10vmbrasseurdishank[m]: Here are some IRC etiquette tips (near the bottom of the article): https://opensource.com/article/16/6/irc-quickstart-guide
21:34.44vmbrasseurrikstr: I use y'all, folks, team, gang. Peeps is good, though, and is a cute word, too. :)
21:35.00dishank[m]sure. it so kind of u.
21:35.16vmbrasseurHappy to help.
21:35.48rikstrvmbrasseur: team/gang are also cool! I'll keep quiet about y'all lol ;P
21:36.45dishank[m]just don't want to start a debate! but! what's the problem with saying "guys"? why getting offended in the first place.
21:38.02dishank[m]i can understand who might not like it but we never meant it in that way.
21:38.05FresoHey y'all peepsteresteresses
21:38.29dishank[m]haha
21:38.42FresoNo one said they were offended, they just pointed out that not everyone here are male.
21:38.43rikstrFreso: lol! howdy gang!
21:40.40dishank[m]well when i am typing "guys", i didn't mean "bros" XD
21:41.15dishank[m]u can understand its little things. but here i rest my case. Peace out.
21:41.54vmbrasseurdishank[m]: People don't read intentions, they read words.
21:42.10vmbrasseur"guys" is a gendered word.
21:42.35dishank[m]i guess people are more like robots for u then a human being.
21:42.52vmbrasseurAs a general rule, please try to avoid using gendered words in situations where they are not needed, such as addressing a group of people who may not all share the same gender.
21:44.20dishank[m]stop this texting war. I am getting a feeling ur not going to stop unless untill i loss. so hereby i declare my defeat. Thank you.
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21:47.42terriReminders about how to make good first impressions on open source projects isn't a war, it's on-topic advice for this channel!
21:50.56dishank[m]I am sorry for the spam on such a big IRC channel. I was just trying to make my fellomate understand people are human being not robots. So try to understand intentions not word. bcs words doesn't matter, its there intentions which matters.
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22:06.53rikstrdishank[m]: among friends or people you know, it's fine to use "guys". But in a group setting like this, you can't know what everyone's preferences are, so it's best to use something gender neutral. I know you didn't have a bad intention, but I would just recommend you listen to VM and stick to using guys/gals or any of the other variations :)
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22:37.01Guest63740terri: Being offended by the use of a word some may have a problem with also doesn't leave a good impression...
22:38.44terriGuest63740: No one here was offended!  Just giving tips to make things easier for applicants.
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22:55.58vel0cityDoes Google provide no feedback whatsoever regarding the reason of an org's application rejection?
22:57.34terrivel0city: They used to do a big long feedback meeting but it was kind of hard to manage.  I believe rejected orgs are encouraged to email if they want feedback now.
22:57.57vel0cityterri: Cool, much better than nothing, thanks!
23:14.07ollyvel0city: did it not say in the rejection email?
23:15.25vel0city@olly: It was a hypothetical question, I'm thinking of applying _next_ year :)
23:16.34vel0cityI asked because I had a specific project in mind, but since asking they told me that they didn't follow through with the rejection feedback
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23:36.52ollyit's worth getting it - it's often largely that a lot of orgs apply and there are limited places, but there's usually something actionable
23:37.03ollyat least judging from when there used to be IRC feedback sessions
23:52.49fundamental_I'm sure there's plenty actionable even for orgs which get accepted
23:54.05rikstrI think some of it is that they just have to reject some older ones in order to give newer orgs a chance
23:54.59olly"dear gsoc, why did you accept us?"
23:56.10ollybut yes, i used to skim through the IRC feedback session logs for ideas of things we could do better

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