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| 08:02.41 | Freso | r0bby: I meant GSoD⦠|
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| 13:35.59 | pombreda | Freso: summer of docs? |
| 13:37.37 | achillion | Google Summer of Drinks |
| 13:38.04 | pombreda | ;) |
| 13:38.42 | pombreda | hum, org admin here. A prospective student is hesitating to show some WIP code ... and says "proposal and idea should be confidential." ... I prefer everything to happen in the open though. I'd like to insist on being open. We can handle who came up first with an idea and approach alright. Is this OK? |
| 13:48.38 | bshah | pombreda: some students may like to keep proposal confidential, but not to mentors/org-admins |
| 13:50.03 | olasd | I think the question was whether pombreda mandating public proposals for his own project would be okay wrt the GSoC policy |
| 13:50.33 | olasd | (I don't have an answer but I'm interested as well) |
| 13:55.58 | pombreda | olasd, yes, that's exactly the question |
| 13:56.34 | pombreda | I always asked for public proposals/WIP PRs in the past. That's the first time I am getting push back :P |
| 13:56.37 | olasd | (orgs I've participated in have certainly done that in the past, but I don't know if that practice is okay with current rules) |
| 13:56.47 | pombreda | waves hello to olasd :P |
| 13:57.01 | olasd | hi ;p |
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| 19:38.49 | r0bby | pombreda: there is a reason I didn't mention it. We were asked not to. |
| 19:39.05 | r0bby | So I'm not going to respond |
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| 20:27.07 | Freso | r0bby: Were we? I don't recall that. I see a couple of posts about it when I search for it. Ah well. |
| 20:28.16 | Freso | pombreda: If the org. policy is public proposals and WIP PRs, then you're entirely entitled to enforce this policy. If they want to get involved with the project, they need to adhere to the project's policies. |
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| 20:38.55 | r0bby | Freso: yea -- in the latest email I think |
| 20:39.16 | Freso | Ah. I'll look at that again. |
| 20:42.37 | r0bby | the TL;DR is it's not worked out who will run it yet |
| 20:50.01 | olly | i don't see any suggestion not to discuss it in public in the last email that says that |
| 20:52.27 | r0bby | I vaguely recall us being asked to not talk about it |
| 20:52.37 | r0bby | I swear it was said |
| 20:52.43 | r0bby | maybe I'm crazy |
| 20:53.29 | olly | perhaps at the summit? |
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| 21:07.56 | r0bby | olly: I think so -- I can't remember -- but I think it was implied since it's not even finalized yet |
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| 21:46.33 | pombreda | Freso, r0bby thx :P |
| 22:19.44 | valorie | I would never accept confidential proposals |
| 22:20.00 | valorie | private copies for grammar markup, sure |
| 22:20.31 | valorie | because I offer that to students, devels, and pretty much anyone who asks |
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| 22:35.06 | r0bby | If a student copies a proposal -- it's instant DQ on my end. |
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| 22:35.23 | r0bby | So if a student is concerned about that, I have a zero tolerance policy for that. |
| 22:37.01 | olly | students sometimes worry that someone else will copy their public proposal but it's pretty obvious when two proposals have the some of the same content, and you can then see which one was published first |
| 22:47.30 | r0bby | Yes, and if they do -- the first one wins out..and the one who cheated is basically banned -- I would go so far as to have Google ban them. |
| 22:48.08 | r0bby | This is why I say submit a draft and then share itg |
| 22:48.12 | r0bby | This is why I say submit a draft and then share it* |
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| 23:13.10 | terri | seems like submitting a draft is extra in the student's best interest, since then you have evidence that they were the first. |
| 23:21.39 | r0bby | terri: yup |
| 23:22.28 | r0bby | I require everything be public and I strictly enforce that |
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