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| 02:54.09 | mezzode | hey, does anyone know why https://google.github.io/gsocguides/student/writing-a-proposal#general-notes says to submit several proposals when there's a proposal limit of 3? does it mean drafts or something? |
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| 03:01.13 | olly | mezzode_: the limit used to be higher so the phrasing is now a bit odd |
| 03:01.44 | olly | i'd recommend talking to the org before submitting multiple proposals to the same org |
| 03:01.46 | valorie | imo a limit of 3 is still too high |
| 03:02.07 | olly | they may be able to help suggest where to focus |
| 03:03.19 | mezzode_ | ah got it, thanks |
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| 03:23.21 | electronorbitals | !studentguide |
| 03:23.21 | gsocbot | electronorbitals: https://g.co/gsoc/studentguide |
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| 11:32.10 | D3fa1t | Hey guys |
| 11:32.30 | D3fa1t | Is there anyone from the gsoc team available ? |
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| 11:39.38 | gevaerts | Almost certainly not at this time |
| 11:39.47 | gevaerts | It's around midnight in California :) |
| 11:39.52 | gevaerts | !support @ D3fa1t |
| 11:39.52 | gsocbot | @ D3fa1t: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
| 11:40.19 | D3fa1t | Ah! Alright :) |
| 11:40.34 | D3fa1t | Didn't realise that haha |
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| 13:15.16 | MSleepyPanda | Hey! Is there someone here from germany who participated in gsoc? I'd love to chat on the legal/tax aspects of the stipends :) |
| 13:15.23 | MSleepyPanda | Some questions: |
| 13:16.02 | MSleepyPanda | Is it a stipend in terms of salary or like a scholarship/grant? |
| 13:18.29 | MSleepyPanda | Are there some other legal challenges like tax? E.g. insurance etc.. I will contanct mine, but i'd have to know what the legal structure is for them to evaluate my plan. |
| 13:23.06 | MSleepyPanda | Since the student terms state that there will be no contract of employment, are there other things to sign? |
| 13:23.58 | MSleepyPanda | If you refer to a specific question, please say question 1,2,3 :) |
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| 13:31.04 | abhikpal | MSleepyPanda: (3): I was a GSOC student in 2017 and 2018 and don't remember signing when I got accepted. |
| 13:32.49 | abhikpal | Just had to set-up the payment system using Flywire. That said, I'm not German and I'm not sure if signing other documents, etc is dependent on the students' nationality.. |
| 13:34.15 | MSleepyPanda | abhikpal: Thank you! |
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| 13:35.27 | Gaurav | Hello |
| 13:36.04 | Gaurav | I want to ask about this "All students are required to submit proof of enrollment in an accredited university or college as of the project acceptance date." |
| 13:36.34 | Gaurav | please tell me that do we have to prove the scanned copy of id card ? |
| 13:37.22 | Gaurav | anyone can help meregarding this ? |
| 13:37.37 | Gaurav | this is my first time to apply for GSoC |
| 13:40.51 | abhikpal | Gaurav: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/proof-of-enrollment |
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| 14:06.20 | iamvasuh | hello everyone , i actually wanted to ask that , how many attempts are allowed for a student to apply for gsoc? |
| 14:06.31 | iamvasuh | for a first time student |
| 14:09.03 | gevaerts | You can submit up to three proposals, and you can take part (which means get selected and so on, not just applying) twice |
| 14:11.18 | iamvasuh | that means i can apply for any number of times as long as i m fulfilling the other eligibility criterias? |
| 14:11.32 | gevaerts | yes |
| 14:11.53 | abhikpal | gevaerts: see section 7.1 here: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/rules/ |
| 14:12.06 | iamvasuh | there is only rule on getting selected twice ONLY and no more |
| 14:12.24 | abhikpal | s/gevaerts/iamvasuh/ |
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| 16:57.24 | Euler_ | Hey people |
| 16:57.57 | cbilt | i don't get this whole, "discuss your idea" thing |
| 16:58.06 | cbilt | no one is discussing anything (for my chosen project) |
| 16:58.12 | cbilt | people write an introduction, sure, but that's it |
| 16:58.55 | fundamental | sounds like people aren't asking the right questions or providing the context to them. |
| 16:59.57 | cbilt | i understand what they mean by discussing. asking relevant questions about their chosen gsoc idea. but i haven't seen it, neither on IRC or the mailing list, and you're not meant to do it in private. so where is all this discussion happening? i'm freaking out because if i'm not active enough i'm screwed. but no one else is doing anything so |
| 17:01.08 | fundamental | if you are concerned with being active, what are you doing to drive the discussion forward? |
| 17:02.19 | r0bby | cbilt: The GSoC orgs are required to put ideas up...you can add your own, however it's probably unlikely to be accepted if 2 mentors can't be matched to you. Ask questions publicly, do everything publicly. If you're concerned with someone stealing your idea, start a draft and then ask questions. |
| 17:03.15 | cbilt | seems like no one understands english here, oops |
| 17:03.35 | r0bby | cbilt: also -- people who aren't active are very unlikely to get accepted in all but the newer orgs. The experienced ones figured out that having a contribution requirement is a way to filter out the weaker candidates |
| 17:04.46 | meflin_ | cbilt: insulting people is uncalled for |
| 17:05.57 | r0bby | cbilt: also -- since you're using ZNC -- I assume you understand how IRC works -- people idle and do other things. and aren't always active |
| 17:06.06 | r0bby | and even when they are active, they may be in other channels. |
| 17:07.28 | r0bby | The rockstar students have already been engaged with us prior -- I've been fielding student questions since the program was announced for this year |
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| 18:00.03 | noracodes | Hi! My legal name doesn't match the name I use most of the time, including the name my college officially uses. What should I do when filling out my GSoC profile? Obviously Google needs my legal name for taxes but it's not what's on my proof of enrollment and if it's on my certificate I'll be rather unhappy. |
| 18:00.54 | r0bby | noracodes: Use your legal name. |
| 18:01.33 | meflin | if there are questions you will be contacted |
| 18:06.59 | noracodes | r0bby: Is it possible to get a preferred name on the certificate? Also, what should I do about Proof of Enrollment? Or, is that what you meant, meflin? That they'd contact me if there was an issue? |
| 18:07.21 | r0bby | noracodes: don't obsess over the certificate |
| 18:07.36 | r0bby | The real metric is your code. |
| 18:07.46 | noracodes | That's fair, sorry. It's just a big worry for me because, since changing my name, I'm having to rebuild my professional reputation, such as it is. |
| 18:07.47 | r0bby | That and what your mentors thought about you |
| 18:07.54 | meflin | noracodes: it was about proof |
| 18:08.04 | noracodes | Ok, great. Thank you! |
| 18:08.21 | noracodes | I'm excited for this year, the list of orgs looks great :) |
| 18:08.22 | r0bby | noracodes: You can set your display name I believe |
| 18:08.45 | gevaerts | !support @noracodes |
| 18:09.21 | meflin | hmm I think the bot might be dead |
| 18:09.49 | r0bby | noracodes: email gsoc-support@google.com |
| 18:10.05 | meflin | it was serving tea yesterday |
| 18:10.26 | noracodes | Done. Someone from the LGBTQ In Tech Slack is helping me out as well, so hopefully I can forget about this and just get coding :) |
| 18:12.25 | meflin | shouldn't be an issue use your name and for proof/docs suport will help you out |
| 18:13.14 | pounce | good luck noracodes! |
| 18:13.56 | r0bby | noracodes: I suspected that was the case -- contact the GSoC Team -- they're super friendly and will work with you |
| 18:14.58 | r0bby | Use your current name and explain to GSoC Support everything and they will work with you |
| 18:15.08 | r0bby | s/current/chosen/ |
| 18:15.31 | noracodes | Thank you all so much! I'm already finding some fun looking projects on GNOME stuff, the density of Rust projects is higher than I expected. |
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| 18:18.44 | r0bby | noracodes: Yup! No issue |
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| 20:33.56 | RoyMustange | Hello? |
| 20:34.08 | meflin | hi |
| 20:34.18 | RoyMustange | How are all of you today? |
| 20:34.55 | meflin | horible work issues only fixed one so far |
| 20:35.09 | meflin | got a gsoc question? |
| 20:36.26 | RoyMustange | No, I was just trying to figure out what an IRC is. I am learning about computers and I find this interesting |
| 20:37.21 | PulkoMandy | well, it's a way to discuss with people here, welcome :) |
| 20:37.55 | RoyMustange | Yeah thanks. This is awesome. You all have a nice day! |
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| 20:38.16 | meflin | odd and makes me feel old |
| 21:03.49 | valorie | meflin: you're younger than me therefore you cannot be old |
| 21:04.15 | valorie | although you might be the first in the chan to use IRC |
| 21:04.32 | valorie | back when you were in diapers, evidently |
| 21:04.36 | valorie | :-) |
| 21:07.49 | pounce | im sad that irc hit its prime before i learned about it :< |
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| 21:53.50 | Davide95 | Hi guys, sorry to bother you. I'm Davide and I'm making three proposal for this GSoC. Is it possible to set a prority (e.g. I would like more to work on X, then Y, ...)? |
| 21:54.32 | olly | Davide95: no - it's assumed you'd only propose projects you want to do |
| 21:56.18 | valorie | pounce: has it hit its prime yet? |
| 21:56.24 | valorie | still tops for ME |
| 21:56.43 | valorie | Davide95: yes, put that right in your proposal |
| 21:56.53 | olly | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:56.55 | valorie | 3 proposals is a LOT |
| 21:57.16 | olly | it is |
| 21:58.04 | olly | i'd advise worrying more about getting selected once, rather than what happens if you somehow managed to get three orgs to want you |
| 21:58.19 | valorie | amen to that |
| 21:58.57 | valorie | one solid proposal in an org where you have built up strong ties beats 3 thin ones every time |
| 21:59.08 | valorie | because orgs choose *students* |
| 21:59.09 | Davide95 | @olly I know :) I've one proposal in which I want to focus more and two backups, that's why :) |
| 21:59.12 | valorie | not proposals |
| 22:00.28 | olly | it's not a lottery though - putting the same effort into one backup proposal is likely a better option |
| 22:00.31 | pounce | valorie: i've read there are fewer users (overall) now than in the mid 2000s. i still love it though :p |
| 22:00.44 | valorie | perhaps |
| 22:00.51 | valorie | less spam and idiocy too |
| 22:00.56 | valorie | so overall win for me |
| 22:01.34 | valorie | olly speaks truth |
| 22:01.50 | Davide95 | @olly yes you're right. But I can assure you that I'm working on all of them as much as I can because I like all of them :) It would be hard to remove one of the two |
| 22:04.10 | valorie | it's more important right now to be working with the org of your choice, fixing bugs etc |
| 22:04.19 | valorie | getting to know the team you want to work with |
| 22:04.52 | valorie | in KDE at least we try to choose students who will stay with us, support their code, and become KDE devels |
| 22:04.59 | valorie | I think other orgs do the same |
| 22:05.14 | valorie | we really don't want drive-by GSoC code |
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