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04:52.58bshahyou know what's annoying with GSoC site? having to enter my password every time ... :(
04:58.05ollyi don't seem to have to
04:59.22bshahso if you close the page and browser, and open app again, it doesn't ask you password again?
04:59.39ollydunno, I don't close my browser a lot
04:59.44bshahhm :p
04:59.48anshuman73bshah: doesn't happen that way here either
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05:33.42hramtopic
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05:35.24Prathamesh_ashraanyone here ??
05:36.35hramHi Prathmesh
05:36.45Prathamesh_ashraHie :)
05:36.50Prathamesh_ashrathanks for being online
05:37.05hramAre you using IRC for first time?
05:37.09Prathamesh_ashrai just came to know about this program and now i want to enroll badly
05:37.25Prathamesh_ashraYes, its my first time
05:37.40hramOkay, this is my first time too
05:37.51Prathamesh_ashraGreat :)
05:38.12Prathamesh_ashraI had a query for " Proof of Enrollment "
05:39.14olly!proof @ Prathamesh_ashra
05:39.15gsocbot@ Prathamesh_ashra: If you have questions about whether your document is acceptable, don't ask on IRC or on public mailing lists, just upload it to the site. If it is not acceptable, we will ask you to upload a different document within a specified time frame. You will receive an email when your form has been approved.
05:39.39Prathamesh_ashrathanks :)
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08:02.06Karthahi, how do I register?
08:02.14Karthait's not letting me log in!
08:02.26jn__Kartha: for GSoC or freenode?
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12:03.06lk__anyone else nervous?
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12:25.15teepee-nervous no, but happy that this year looks great so far - I guess it's just quite different from mentor perspective :)
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13:03.30griffin98hu
13:03.57griffin98hello! final time for Submitting GSoC Application was 23:30 IST
13:04.08griffin98but its showing deadline is over
13:04.29teepee-oh?
13:04.42griffin98what to do now ?
13:04.50tarptaeyagriffin98: check your systems clock
13:04.51griffin98currently its 18:30 IST
13:06.07teepee-as far as I can see, deadline should be 18:00 UTC
13:06.28teepee-maybe it's confused, with local time, you could try setting UTC time zone
13:08.13griffin98tarpteaya: thanks, my system clock was on different timezone.
13:09.28teepee-oh, my, I'm predicting it's going to be a bit hectic here if that happens to everyone
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13:17.56Mcthe website shows the deadline well, I think
13:18.36McI see " Deadline April 9, 2019 at 20:00 (heure d’été d’Europe centrale) " (with a nice mix of english and french)
13:19.34teepee-yes, same here, shows 20:00 CEST which matches 18:00 UTC
13:20.48avai7echo 'Hello, World'
13:21.31teepee-Hello, World
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13:23.02avai7hey guys how do i contact mentors?
13:23.20teepee-depends on the org the mentors belong to
13:23.48teepee-that should be listed in the org description somewhere
13:26.11avai7#vlmc
13:26.17avai7this one for example
13:28.41teepee-if that's the channel here on freenode, you can just click on it in most IRC clients or use /join #vlmc
13:29.46avai7ok i joined thx)))
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14:19.11han_Hello,I have a question about required proof of enrollment. What happens if a document is not accepted? Are we asked to submit again or not
14:21.01teepee-yes, you will be contacted, that's what the FAQ says
14:23.54teepee-actually it's not in the FAQ... separate document -> https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/proof-of-enrollment
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15:06.46fundamentallooks like the last minute proposals are now arriving
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15:25.52lk__fundamental: is that a bad thing? are a lot of spam ones arriving?
15:36.44fundamentallk__: based on just the titles, some of them certainly could be interested projects, but as the submitters didn't involve the community with discussions on drafts/ideas/etc then I'd wager they're lower quality.
15:36.59fundamentalwhich is a shame, but not much to do about it
15:38.01lk__oh wow, I gotta respect their confidence
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16:56.13Cervatornot necessarily a confidence thing, some are just literal spam - feels like a few people are just trying to get some sweet Google-paid time to work on a pet project and somehow think an Org might pick them for that, for some reason, despite having nothing to do with the org
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17:03.28stefan_hello! Is anyone having trouble uploading the final proposal on the gsoc website?
17:03.42stefan_I am unable to upload the proposal?
17:04.04teepee-someone had it saying the deadline is already past (which should not be the case yet)
17:04.34stefan_still 55 minutes to go
17:04.48PulkoMandyplanning to use the last hour is never a good idea :/
17:04.55teepee-so what's your issue? same one?
17:05.14stefan_agree...
17:05.19fundamentalPulkoMandy: yeah, that's typically when stuff starts crashing
17:05.36stefan_when i click upload it starts loading... and then goes backwards and stops
17:06.31teepee-try a different browser and/or try with a anonymous window
17:11.45stefan_made it
17:11.52stefan_my computer was the problem
17:13.10Cervatorcool, glad you made it :-) we just got one of those "resume proposals" heh
17:14.43stefan_thanks! what do  you mean by "resume proposal"
17:15.18Mca proposal from someone who justs sends his/her resume with the exact description of a project on the web, without ever having contacted the project
17:15.35Cervatoryep - the student literally submits their resume :-) with or without a tiny piece that talks about the org or one or more ideas
17:15.39Mc(or anyone in the community)
17:15.42stefan_well, it's not like that
17:16.06Cervatorgood! didn't expect it to be, those students rarely if ever show up on chat, so anybody in here is probably fine :-)
17:18.40stefan_Yeah, I've been in touch with the community for some time, but couldn't submit the proposal earliear :)
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17:23.55chiragmadan4is there any chance for the extension of deadline?
17:24.01Cervatornope
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17:32.29cetjs2PulkoMandy: hello
17:32.46PulkoMandyhides
17:33.44cetjs2PulkoMandy: i  UPLOADED FINAL PROPOSAL FOR FREETYPE
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17:33.58cetjs2PulkoMandy: Слава Ужику
17:34.21cetjs2PulkoMandy: I Selected
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18:00.44lk__this year Google was actually good about notifying multiple times of the deadline
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18:03.00lk__so... did anyone's internet crash while submitting last minute? I hope we all made it
18:03.06lk__good luck guys
18:03.25rchattoHi there, after I submitted my proposal, my submission's 2nd step got a X tick
18:03.29rchattocan someone help me please
18:03.45lk__did you submit your final draft?
18:04.00rchattoyes, completed other 3 steps
18:05.00rchatto#3 step Proposal Details shows X, despite submitting in time, requesting help
18:06.36lk__E-mail GSoC admin, but I doubt they will be sympathetic considering they sent multiple e-mails to submit your final draft in advance. Sorry :(
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18:07.11teepee!support | rchatto
18:07.11gsocbotteepee: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com.
18:07.51lk__so anyone else have any issues submitting last minute?
18:07.56rchattoI submitted yesterday itself
18:08.05harshitag08There is bug in gsoc website, if I change the time and date on my system then I can still edit the proposal. Fix it. and I also will be happy if you give me bug bounty. I can show you my screencast
18:08.06rchattoback then it show everything fine
18:09.25meflinharshitag08: send a report to suport link above
18:09.55harshitag08Where is the support link?
18:10.12blast007read what gsocbot said.  it's an email address, not a link.
18:10.14meflinmailto:gsoc-support@google.com
18:10.32harshitag08Alright.
18:10.48lk__harshitag08: please notify them after 24 hours, I still have another proposal I need to submit. thanks
18:10.51lk__jk
18:11.11rchattoProbably a bug in GSOC site, my Step#3 is now green, thanks for help
18:11.21lk__;)
18:11.25lk__nice rchatto
18:12.01rchatto:)
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18:15.47saish_harshitag08:i  think they will not give bug bounty as this is nopt a bug it s simply they didn't have extra security to detect user from specific location.....they just implemented if they add ip based security then people will use vpn or proxy
18:16.36PulkoMandythe time does not depend on the location
18:16.48PulkoMandyapplications closed 17 minutes ago for everyone
18:16.50saish_that is how people play pubg lite game when it was released on thiland server they changed time timezone & ip to thailand :p
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18:17.56saish_pulkoMandy: but few hrs ago time was shown different for different users
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18:18.16lk__PulkoMandy: rats! I was gonna pm my friend from the other side of the world and have him make a last minute edit to my proposal
18:18.30harshitag08Well someone can still submit the proposal
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18:18.40teepeeyeah, it actually looked like it's using local time 18:00
18:19.04shivudotcomCan i still submit my proposal
18:19.15meflinthe deadline has passed so no
18:19.17harshitag08Yes
18:19.34shivudotcomi have completed it but not able to proceed
18:19.41shivudotcomhow yes?
18:19.43lk__shivudotcom: sorry, Google is strict about it :(
18:20.24shivudotcomSo there is no other way
18:20.29harshitag08when I changed date to previous day, I got edit button I am not sure whether it works or not though
18:20.35meflindeadlines are strict
18:20.38harshitag08Maybe it just a front-end issue
18:20.39lk__nope, sorry
18:20.46meflinharshitag08: even if there is a bug that will be fixed
18:20.47harshitag08and you lost the chance of submission
18:20.58harshitag08Yes @meflin
18:21.05meflinif there is a bug report it dont tell ppl yes
18:21.19katyaI'm unable to login the dashboard. Is that happening to other people too
18:21.22harshitag08Yes, I have reported to google
18:21.34harshitag08I won't tell anyone.
18:21.53lk__google sent out this in their email "We will not extend the deadline under any circumstances"
18:21.56harshitag08I was just conforming if that's the case
18:21.57meflinkatya: works for me
18:21.58lk__oh he's gone
18:22.35katyaokay, thanks. I'll check again
18:23.28harshitag08Is there anyone on this channel from official GSoC team?
18:25.11meflinyes but they might not be active at this time they are working
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18:36.48meflin!proof
18:36.49gsocbotmeflin: If you have questions about whether your document is acceptable, don't ask on IRC or on public mailing lists, just upload it to the site. If it is not acceptable, we will ask you to upload a different document within a specified time frame. You will receive an email when your form has been approved.
18:38.31meflin!support
18:38.31gsocbotmeflin: If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com.
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19:56.13r0bbyFolks next year when you apply: maybe dont use a weird font that makes your proposal look more likea ransom letter than a proposal fora job
20:02.42ollybut the letters-cut-out-from-newspapers font is my favourite!
20:03.20fundamentalr0bby: some of the font choices are 'interesting'
20:04.19r0bbyfundamental: oh yes
20:04.23r0bbyWe got some real winners
20:04.28r0bbyI have them in a folder
20:04.37fundamentalfor a moment I thought there was comic sans on one
20:08.06r0bbyNone of these students stand a chance
20:08.27r0bbyI plan on using some of these as examples of what not to do
20:08.46r0bbyonly if there's no personally identifable information though
20:10.10r0bbyand someone literally recycled their final year project proposal
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20:17.41fundamentalthere is a good set of middling proposals from students who could certainly make an impact after learning more. Hopefully they stick around in general open source.
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20:21.14happyhello
20:21.23meflinhi
20:21.48Guest43390some organizations don't show projects in GSoC 2018 archives
20:21.52Guest43390what does it mean?
20:22.17Guest43390Were there no accepted projects? or the organization don't show the accepted project?
20:22.17meflinnot sure what you mean by 2018 archive there is no official archive
20:22.37Guest43390https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2018/organizations/5080222944722944/
20:22.41Guest43390this one
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20:24.02meflinno idea possibly
20:24.11Guest43390No project is shown in Django. I wondered if no one was accepted in 2018 or Django organization hides the project
20:24.13meflinit does happen that no quality applicaiencs
20:24.21meflinno idea
20:24.36Guest43390ok thank you
20:24.58meflinyou would have to ask the project
20:25.18Guest43390ok I will
20:25.21Guest43390I appreciate it
20:30.29ollyor django didn't take part last year perhaps
20:30.49ollyor all their students failed (i think only projects which pass are still listed)
20:31.32ollyi suspect it's most likely they didn't take part last year - the list of orgs changes each year
20:31.51Guest43390hmm I think Django took part last year
20:32.26meflineither way its not important to students or other orgs
20:32.34Guest43390if Django didn't, it shouldn't be on the list of 2018 organization
20:32.49r0bbyThey participated -- but noen of the students passed
20:32.57r0bbySo they still deserve to be there
20:32.59Mcthey show the same way as https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2018/organizations/6036062346412032/#projects where we accepted no student
20:33.42Guest43390I see. so no projects mean no accepted students
20:33.45Guest43390make sense now
20:34.54Mc(or no successful students, I don't know whether failed projects appear)
20:35.04ollyoh, there's actually a page for them so they were an accepted org
20:35.31r0bbyI would prefer failed projects not be listed
20:36.02ollyMc: they don't - https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2018/organizations/5404190113267712/ shows two projects for us and we had one fail
20:36.16ollyoverall it makes sense, but there are different reasons for failing
20:37.07Guest43390I prefer to clarify the situation
20:37.33meflinwhy?
20:38.35Guest43390I didn't know what that means at first
20:39.18ollyyou'd have to either ask django, or see if there's some sort of announcement of their accepted projects for 2018
20:39.38ollybut I'm unclear why you need to know so much
20:40.18ollyif you've applied to them you'd do better to put all this energy into working on a patch to fix a django bug
20:40.41ollyas that could actually make a difference to you being accepted
20:41.45Guest43390you're right
20:42.01Guest43390Thanks
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22:53.59Quozlare the star and ignore actions across the org or per admin only?
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23:10.36ollyQuozl: admin only I believe
23:11.25Quozlolly: per single admin or all admin?  i.e. is it a personal productivity feature, or data that updates for all co-admins?
23:11.36ollyoh shared
23:11.40Quozlthanks!
23:12.08ollyso an admin can go through and ignore the spam proposals so other mentors don't waste time discovering them
23:12.40ollyi believe mentors can see the list of ignored proposals, same as admins
23:13.01ollyand stars similarly
23:13.05terriyes, they can
23:28.46r0bbyQuozl: I went through and ignored our spam proposals -- not before I saved the proposal content for prosperity because they were just too...bad...and funny
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