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00:37.46medohello
00:37.54medovalorie you there>
00:38.00medo?*
00:39.04r0bbymedo: don't rely on just valorie -- she has to worry about her org -- unless you're a KDE applicant
00:39.20r0bbyYou have a lot of people here who know what a successful proposal looks like
00:39.21medouhmm no
00:40.47r0bbymedo: what?
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00:41.05medo95sorry disconnected
00:41.10r0bbymedo95: I was aying for example I could help you
00:41.22r0bbyLots of mentors lurk here
00:41.25medo95i just uploaded my proof of enrollment
00:41.37r0bbyThat's something Google themselves has to verify
00:41.40r0bbyWe don't see it
00:41.44r0bbyeven org admins
00:41.54medo95aha i know i was thinking about the next step
00:41.56r0bbywe can't see any of your profile actually
00:42.14r0bbymedo95: next step is find an org and a project to work on
00:42.27medo95that is the proposal?
00:42.48r0bbyWell many orgs require you work on some issues to familiarize with the org, or some other task to evaluate your coding skills
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00:44.09medothat internet :x
00:44.13medoidk what is wrong
00:44.21medowhy every time i speak here the router goes mad
00:44.39medomay you forward what you wrote while i was disconnected please
00:44.52medoi'm sorry but it's the internet going mad now
00:44.58r0bbyWell many orgs require you work on some issues to familiarize with the org, or some other task to evaluate your coding skills
00:45.14r0bbyso find the org and get yourself acquainted -- avoid sending private messages if you can
00:45.29medookay
00:45.39medoand about the proposal stage
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00:45.45medothat's it?
00:45.51r0bbyWell yeah for now
00:45.58r0bbyYour proposal is going to be the meat of it
00:46.14r0bbyif it's less than 6-10 pages, you didn't submit a good one
00:46.19medoso the 3 proposals are 3 companies i try to help so they evaluate me?
00:46.31r0bbycompanies? No -- we're Open Source communities.
00:46.42medoaha sorry
00:47.05medojust writing fast and writing the nearest meaning coming to my head it's my first time here
00:47.12r0bbyIt's okay!
00:47.18r0bby!guides
00:47.20gsocbotr0bby: Not a factoid
00:47.28r0bby!studentmanual
00:47.29gsocbotr0bby: Not a factoid
00:47.33r0bbyetc
00:47.36r0bbyer wtf*
00:47.44r0bbyhttps://google.github.io/gsocguides/student
00:47.56r0bbyHave a look at that
00:48.43medomy proposals are for organizations to help them with some issues they got right?
00:48.49medodo i get it right?
00:48.58r0bbyIt's basically your project plan
00:49.09r0bbyI'd have to dig mine up
00:49.20r0bbyhttps://google.github.io/gsocguides/student/writing-a-proposal
00:49.29medookay thank you iwill read these
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00:57.56medoanother question, while i was reading what is proposal there was written requirements for participation may you send it to me?
00:58.10medoi would like to read it too
00:58.49medor0bby
01:00.47r0bbyit depends on the org
01:00.53r0bbyeach org can set their own policies
01:01.02medoaha ok got it
01:02.54r0bbySo long as we don't go against the program rules, we can do whatever we want -- oftentimes the rules are there because experience taught us that it was necessary
01:02.56medohow many hours can i have outside the project in a day?
01:03.27medoor how many hours will i work on the project on average per day
01:04.46r0bby40 hours per week
01:05.00r0bbyNo other jobs outside of GSoC
01:05.10r0bbyThat's a recipe for disaster
01:05.12medonot a job , university
01:05.18r0bbyUniversity is fine
01:05.28medookay good
01:05.44r0bbybut 40 hours per week -- though I don't particularly track hours worked or at least never have -- make your milestones and you're good
01:06.31medoi donot have to be super professional in the languages i know right?
01:07.02r0bbyYou do have to know the langage enough to do the project without handholding
01:07.18medoi mean i'm good at c++  won't say very good but nearly, also i know java script
01:07.38medoand i did a project before using c++ Oob
01:07.58medoit was a game
01:08.11medosnake and ladder but i did nothing in the graphic stuff
01:08.37medoand it wasnot snake and ladder only it had cards and some other stuff
01:09.30medoand using java script did some basic programs not some thing big
01:09.41medothat's good enough ?
01:11.33r0bbyIf you don't have a coding track record on github, I'd be weary of accepting you
01:12.52medoi did upload none of my codes there
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01:16.17medo1the recent one was using angular
01:16.32medo1should i upload my own codes and projects too?
01:17.31medo1or what should i do in the next 9 days
01:20.35r0bbyFind an org and work with them
01:20.38r0bby:)
01:20.42r0bbyyou can search by language
01:20.48medo1and upload my work on git?
01:21.16medo1sorry if i ask way too much
01:21.23medo1i know i do :X
01:22.23r0bbyFind an org on https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com
01:22.31r0bbysearch for one by language, technology, etc
01:22.55medo1okay thank you :)
01:23.34r0bbyFor my org we *DO* Have a frontend project but still requires you know PHP -- and I'd prefer you know how to write secure PHP code, very few newbies do
01:24.24medo1aha
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01:36.39valoriefor my org (KDE) we require commits to the KDE codebase
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05:16.41SonamHello all ! Can we upload the draft proposal thru gsoc platform or only the final proposal thru the gsoc platform to the organization
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06:04.16valoriepfff
06:04.32valorieaskandleave
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07:01.45phoenix181They think this is like whatsapp other message services
07:02.44zleapah
07:04.28zleapphoenix181, people are not waiting around long enough to get a response
07:59.21zleapso if I am using twm, what can i install that can take screenshots of my desktop?
07:59.24zleapoops
07:59.26zleapsorry
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10:45.42lakinduwill coronavirus pandemic affect the program?
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11:20.58zero07hi
11:22.52zero07i am not too much into any of the fieds, which organization should i apply for?
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11:31.49Shauncan someone sugest me how do I find mentors
11:32.01ShaunTheir name wasnt given in the ideas list
11:32.08ShaunI applied to Arduino
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12:11.49medohello
12:12.31medoif I did choose the organization and I want the mentor to send me the bugs he wants to test me with what should I do
12:14.15PulkoMandyusually the mentor will not spoon-feed you with the bugs. You should have some autonomy
12:14.48PulkoMandybut, read the organization-specific application instructions (they probably have something like that) and see what they say there
12:15.40medookay thank you
12:16.16medoam I late? or I still can be accepted?
12:16.36PulkoMandyapplications are open until 31 of march I think
12:16.44medoaha
12:16.57PulkoMandybut you should start working on your proposal and submit a draft to the organization so they can review it before the deadline
12:17.50medookay i'm working on that checking which organization I want to work with right now
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12:46.27medois the draft important?
12:46.48PulkoMandyhow else would you get feedback from the organization?
12:47.14medoaha right
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12:47.40PulkoMandythe people in the organization are willing to help you (I hope). This is not a contest, this is something where they want you to get involved in their project and contribute in the most efficient way possible
12:48.02PulkoMandyso, just get as much feedback as possible to make a better final proposal :)
12:49.30medookay I will thank you :)
12:50.24medowho is scummVM mentors?
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13:18.37medohello
13:18.59blast007hi
13:18.59medowho is the mentor of scummVM
13:19.45blast007wouldn't it make sense to ask that question in their channel?
13:19.55fundamentalmedo: I'd recommend checking the ideas page for a list of possible project mentors
13:20.26fundamentalalso, do ask those sorts of questions in the recommeneded communication mediums the project recommends
13:20.40blast007contact information is listed on the GSoC site for each organization
13:20.55medoah sorry ididnot know
13:21.19blast007just click an organization, then click "Learn more & submit proposal" and it should link to contact info and the ideas page
13:22.01medookay got it
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14:22.39medoI searched to find any contact with mentors of scummVM but I found nothing , where can I find their project chat rooms,etc cuase I did not find anything related to that
14:25.43shivam-kapilamedo: https://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Summer_of_Code/GSoC_Contact
14:25.51shivam-kapilaJoin their IRC channel
14:26.07zleap<PROTECTED>
14:26.17zleapwithout the space
14:26.26medoThanks <3
14:27.11zleapmedo,  if you're using hexchat, right click on the channel name and select auto join
14:27.34medoI did join them
14:28.16zleapcool yeah just said Hi
14:29.49blast007medo: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/  search for ScummVM, click on ScummVM, click on "Learn more & submit a proposal".  Right on there is links to everything.
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14:30.04blast007(just so you know how to find it in the future, or for other orgs)
14:30.59medo20any organization's chat room is written in same ways?
14:31.33blast007medo / medo20: did you see my message with the link and instructions for finding contact info?
14:32.32blast007medo20: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/  search for organization, click on organization, click on "Learn more & submit a proposal".  Right on there is links to everything.
14:32.55obviyusmedo: how many usernames are you using lol
14:33.28obviyusfascinating
14:33.38blast007...
14:34.18blast007they should get an actual IRC client instead of using webchat
14:35.10obviyusI doubt most people here would stay after being selected/rejected
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14:37.07medothere is an internet issue so it does disconnect randomly now
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14:53.35aroraI am having a hard time contacting my mentors cuz of time zones lol
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15:00.59zleapblast007, there seems to be a specific channel for GSoC and ScummVM #scummvm-gsoc if that helps others
15:02.54aroraAnyone going for xorg?
15:05.04blast007zleap: then ScummVM should add that to their page
15:10.50zleapgood point
15:14.43ollyperhaps that's the first test for prospective students...
15:16.13zleapi just asked them and they seem to want people in the main channel and will direct to the #scummvm-gsoc channel
15:17.36zleaphttps://www.scummvm.org/news/20200222/
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22:32.38r0bbyHow is everybody doing
22:48.57valoriegood here, r0bby -- another day, another lockdown....
22:53.59obviyusr0bby: what about you
23:05.10r0bbyMentally hanging on by a thread lol
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