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| 00:37.46 | Arthur_Rainbow | Is there any standard celebration activity to do for being accepted by GSOC? |
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| 01:06.26 | valorie | Arthur_Rainbow: everything from champagne for the newbies |
| 01:06.43 | valorie | to .... vodka I guess? for some of the rest of us |
| 01:06.47 | valorie | lol |
| 01:07.02 | valorie | throws confetti around the channel |
| 01:07.21 | downey | Normally once the accepted orgs are announced to the public (tomorrow at 19:00 UTC) the orgs will make lots of celebratory announcements, posts, etc. -- wherever they have their presence :) |
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| 02:04.31 | Arthur_Rainbow | For some reason, the two other admins got the email but not me. My account was used to create the profile on gsoc's website. Would anybody else have the same problem? My intuition, based on one data point, is that they forgot to email the primary admin for some reason |
| 02:06.36 | downey | Best to send a request into gsoc-support@ |
| 02:07.12 | Arthur_Rainbow | Thanks. I failed to figure out how to contact them externally |
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| 02:53.51 | Arthur_Rainbow | Nevermind, gmail just classified it at spam... |
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| 15:15.52 | Glen | Hi, anyone know where we can start talking to mentors? I see that from today we are able to do so. |
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| 15:17.23 | downey | Glen (IRC) once the orgs are announced by google there will be links to communicate with each org on the gsoc web site :) |
| 15:17.27 | downey | That is due at 19:00 UTC |
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| 15:18.34 | Glen | Ah great, thank you so much downey! :) I've been trying to look for it everywhere |
| 15:26.45 | downey | Just a few more hours :) |
| 15:32.59 | anth_x | Everyone got some coffee? Tea? Settled in? |
| 15:36.01 | Mc | how to you plan to choose an org ? |
| 15:37.30 | anth_x | Iâm an org admin, so if weâre in, that partâs done for me. :-) But my general advice for prospective students: |
| 15:39.04 | anth_x | Once the list is out (in a few hours), just read through and start checking out the projectsâ self-description. When something sounds interesting, check out their ideas page for something that sounds like youâd like to/be able to work on. |
| 15:39.14 | anth_x | Repeat down the list. :-) |
| 15:43.07 | anth_x | It can be a bit overwhelming because there are so many. If you start feeling that way, just do a light scan over the list of Orgs and pick a few to start with. |
| 15:44.10 | anth_x | Many students start just by looking for the names of any projects they already use. I think this is probably good advice, but Iâm conflicted about it personally since that probably wonât be us for very many students. ;-) |
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| 15:53.26 | vasanth2 | I'm having a hard time narrowing down the project because they're all interesting and in my domain so I want to pursue all of them.. any tips? |
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| 16:01.38 | anth_x | Not beyond that. Once the orgs are announced, take a closer look at the descriptions. I donât think thereâs *any* developer whoâs skills fit equally well in all orgs. |
| 16:02.11 | anth_x | The tags that orgs pick can be useful, although I donât know what those look like in the new system. |
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| 18:44.12 | vasanth2 | Oh I apologize, I should've made it clearer. I've chosen my org, but I'm having a hard time deciding a project within that org. Almost all of the projects are interesting and would have a great impact on the community ð
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| 18:48.01 | anth_x | Ah! That makes more sense! :-) In that case, ask the org. In my experience every org is happy to offer some guidance there. |
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| 18:53.46 | meetcshah19 | when will the orgs be released? |
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| 18:54.13 | downey | very soon :) |
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| 18:55.01 | kambli | When will the orgs for gsoc be released? |
| 18:55.06 | downey | very soon :) |
| 18:55.10 | anth_x | 6 minutes. |
| 19:00.12 | downey | Now. :) |
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| 19:00.40 | anth_x | ð |
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| 19:03.24 | Mc | https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/ |
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| 19:08.07 | shubham | hey, how you doing? |
| 19:09.21 | anth_x | Significantly less stressed than 10 minutes ago. :-) |
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| 19:10.56 | shubham | BTW you guys are participationg in GSoC'21? |
| 19:11.41 | Mc | yup |
| 19:12.28 | _jv | yup |
| 19:12.51 | shubham | i want some help, guys! |
| 19:12.57 | shubham | if you don't mind! |
| 19:13.29 | shubham | rn i'm looking for orgs to whom i'm gonna apply! |
| 19:13.31 | anth_x | Sure, are you a student? |
| 19:13.45 | anth_x | So yes then. :-) Have you seen the list? |
| 19:14.06 | shubham | yeah mate, i'm student |
| 19:15.51 | Mc | mh, the "main topic" of orgs descriptions on the website (only on the orgs list page, not on the details page) appears as empty for me |
| 19:16.04 | Mc | anyone else sees that ? |
| 19:16.50 | _jv | appears empty to me too |
| 19:17.38 | Mc | I'll send an email to gsoc-support |
| 19:20.42 | anth_x | Looks right to me; like under âAboutCodeâ you donât see â...is a suite of tools...â? |
| 19:21.37 | Mc | anth_x: https://imgur.com/vLJxFSu |
| 19:21.46 | Mc | the purple box is empty |
| 19:22.26 | anth_x | Oh, I see. Yes, same. |
| 19:23.00 | shubham | hey, which org should i choose? i know python |
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| 19:23.13 | shubham | i need you guys help, please |
| 19:23.56 | anth_x | Take a look at that list. The orgs have tags when you click on them for things like programming languages. |
| 19:24.20 | shubham | yeah, i see them. |
| 19:25.10 | shubham | so which tag is most suitable for me? or which one i should choose? |
| 19:25.11 | Mc | shubham: what are you interested in ? |
| 19:25.29 | anth_x | Look for ones with a python tag, and find something that sounds interesting to you. You can also narrow down by category if you like, with that pull-down in the top-right of the list. |
| 19:27.18 | shubham | Mc means what? software development rn |
| 19:41.19 | shubham | does proposals and application are same thing here in GSoC? |
| 19:41.35 | downey | technically a proposal is part of your application. |
| 19:41.47 | downey | the application also includes some additional information about yourself |
| 19:42.30 | shubham | okay |
| 19:42.32 | downey | https://google.github.io/gsocguides/student/ |
| 19:43.06 | downey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN7uGCg5vLg |
| 19:44.40 | shubham | downey: thats nice mate, waht about proposal examples and all |
| 19:45.09 | downey | Each org will ask for different information in your proposal ... so you need to check with them to see what they'd like! |
| 19:51.51 | shubham | BTW rn i'm trying to shortlist orgs with my good language (excluding frameworks), so am i doing good or this is a bad way to shortlist orgs? |
| 19:54.46 | Mc | there is no bad way : what you want is to end up with an org that uses the language you know and where you could help, so if your method ends up with that, it's a good method |
| 19:55.35 | shubham | okay, mate |
| 19:56.30 | shubham | what if know python and i don't don't know about djanog (py libray) then should i choose that orgs? |
| 19:57.38 | Mc | you can look at their site, see if what they do relates to your interests, and if yes, try to play with it a bit to understand more what it's about, and if not, find something else |
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| 20:00.06 | shubham | okay, Thanks mate, really nice talking to you guys! |
| 20:00.56 | Mc | if you like python and web frameworks, you might like django, though |
| 20:11.48 | shubham | Mc bro are you there? |
| 20:13.03 | Mc | ? |
| 20:14.13 | shubham | i was asking that? i should choose project ideas from orgs which they have provided only? |
| 20:17.35 | Mc | you can suggest projects that the org did not think of |
| 20:17.58 | shubham | okay thats nice |
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| 20:18.13 | Mc | but it's *strongly* recommended that you discuss them with the org well before writing your proposal |
| 20:19.20 | Mc | (which is also true with projects from the ideas list, by the way) |
| 20:20.19 | shubham | okay mate good night, thanks for all your help! |
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| 20:34.41 | goformishra | hey guys ... just asking that we can't login right now, right? That will be when the application period starts? |
| 20:34.50 | downey | correct |
| 20:35.15 | goformishra | ohh ... i thought i was facing some issue while logging in. Thanks |
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| 21:55.11 | Arthur_Rainbow | Any advice about how to sort interns? Already found more application than we thought we would get. We had little idea how much people would apply that are not already contributors. Want to be fair |
| 21:57.25 | downey | Hmm. Applications don't open until 29 March... |
| 21:58.08 | Arthur_Rainbow | Sorry, my bad. I meant that we had more people contacting us than I would have expected |
| 21:58.40 | Arthur_Rainbow | Indeed, they are not formal application. They are people who come and speak with us, which is great, and ask question we didn't prepare, such as what is going to be important in their application |
| 21:59.05 | Arthur_Rainbow | This is a very legitimate question |
| 22:00.28 | downey | Some tips here if you haven't seen them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJ9UL6DSsr0 |
| 22:04.29 | Arthur_Rainbow | Thanks a lot! |
| 22:05.06 | downey | Some orgs will create a shared spreadsheet or scorecard of some sort. It's good to have consistency of evaluation criteria across students so you can try to compare one to another. :) |
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| 22:30.30 | Mc | we have an application process that requires two minor code contributions and that usually made the number of applicants passing that bar very low |
| 22:43.23 | Arthur_Rainbow | I'm slightly surprised. I'd have thought inhetical to ask people to do free work to actually get a paid internship. At least work that is really useful to the project and not a simple test of skills. |
| 23:06.10 | Mc | Arthur_Rainbow: and I would consider unethical to ask potential contributors to do useless work in a free software community, or ask contributors to review useless work⦠Apart from GSoC students, everyone around is a volunteer and forms what we see as a community, where the paid aspect of GSoC is just an enabler facilitating the onboarding of new community members (because "free time" is a comodity that is |
| 23:06.12 | Mc | distributed quite unevenly) - And it *is* a test of skill: we have good first issues that are trivial, and if you are not motivated enough to clone, fix, commit, I'm not sure you'll be able to contribute for months |
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| 23:33.05 | anth_x | Does anyone know whoâs in charge of gsocbot? I canât get it to learn/update factoids. |
| 23:33.20 | downey | I think it hasn't worked in a long time... |
| 23:34.14 | anth_x | The dates on some factoids are from last year. Thatâs sad. |
| 23:38.24 | anth_x | One of the things I love about GSoC is just the list of participating orgs. I used postman for a work project and didnât realize it was open source; neat! |
| 23:42.22 | Mc | !help | anth_x |
| 23:42.23 | gsocbot | Mc: use "!<factoid>" to display a factoid, and "gsocbot learn <factoid> = <factoid text>" to teach me a new factoid |
| 23:43.02 | anth_x | My: right, but it seems not to work. |
| 23:43.08 | Mc | !next |
| 23:43.08 | gsocbot | Mc: Student Application Period : March 16 - 31, 2020 |
| 23:43.39 | anth_x | Sigh. Mc. Autocorrect is not helpful on irc nicks. |
| 23:44.59 | Mc | gsocbot: learn next = Student Application Period : March 29 - April 13, 2021 |
| 23:44.59 | gsocbot | Mc: OK, next is now Student Application Period : March 29 - April 13, 2021 |
| 23:45.07 | Mc | !next |
| 23:45.07 | gsocbot | Mc: Student Application Period : March 29 - April 13, 2021 |
| 23:45.16 | Mc | seems to work ? |
| 23:52.24 | anth_x | Huh. |
| 23:54.05 | anth_x | Oh, I am a dummy and cannot read. ð |