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| 10:56.35 | |stefan| | hey =) just a quick question. i can't really get networking working on my ipaq and i was wondering if i somehow can update the packages for opie etc through my pc ? i'm booting familia/opie from a sd-card |
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| 11:03.18 | bluelightning | |stefan|: well, you'll need a network connection of some kind - USB, PPP over serial, wifi, hardwired network |
| 11:20.19 | |stefan| | can't i just plug in the sd-card in my linux computer and upgrade the packages somehow there ? |
| 11:21.30 | |stefan| | the usb networking with my linux comp isn't working that good. i get some watchdog network timeout |
| 11:23.45 | bluelightning | |stefan|: not really... you can download individual packages and copy them to the card and then install them when it's back in the PDA |
| 11:24.00 | bluelightning | without a network connection that's basically it |
| 11:24.53 | |stefan| | damn. i gotta get some bluetooth accesspoint up or get this usb thing working. |
| 11:24.58 | |stefan| | dunno what's wrong though. |
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| 13:09.49 | mmp | bd2: looks like orinoco card starts to work:) |
| 13:10.01 | mmp | although it's just an ugly hack for now |
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| 13:10.52 | mmp | well, at least it is recognized... |
| 13:13.12 | bd2 | mmp, cool! what it was? |
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| 13:13.46 | mmp | I'm not sure, I've done more changes at once, will track it in a minute |
| 13:13.55 | mmp | but definitely incorrect MCXX settings |
| 13:14.33 | mmp | but not the values which are "#define"-d at the start of pxa2xx_base.c |
| 13:14.55 | mmp | I had to change functions which calculate values for MCXX |
| 13:15.06 | mmp | so it will take a while to see what's wrong there |
| 13:15.34 | mmp | hmm, looks like that the wifi even works, after I realized that I have MAC filter turned on and added it to the whitelist:) |
| 13:16.49 | mmp | now just to find out why it doesn't work |
| 13:16.52 | mmp | with original settings |
| 13:33.48 | andy_graybeal | gar... my handheld is stuck in it's lapbelt case i put it into this morning |
| 13:33.58 | andy_graybeal | maybe i'm not supposed to have one of these things |
| 13:34.11 | andy_graybeal | how evil |
| 13:34.22 | andy_graybeal | i can't slide it out |
| 13:34.30 | andy_graybeal | more ummmf ? or is there some trick? |
| 13:35.19 | andy_graybeal | got it to come out, but it felt like i was breaknig it |
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| 15:03.42 | mmp | bd2: looks like pcmcia assert time is not being set properly, now just to find out why. |
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| 15:29.07 | andy_graybeal | how do i tell what IP address my ipaq 5550 has with wince? |
| 15:29.17 | andy_graybeal | is there a cmd, or ipconfig ? |
| 15:30.17 | mmp | andy_graybeal: sorry I left yesterday, brother wanted to go sleep... |
| 15:30.32 | andy_graybeal | everything is working! it's good.. now i'm trying to install the luunixes! familliar |
| 15:30.46 | mmp | you should see it in the grayed field where you normally set the static IP address |
| 15:30.59 | mmp | andy_graybeal: did you flash the non-WPA firmware? |
| 15:30.59 | andy_graybeal | with the wireless connector? |
| 15:31.06 | andy_graybeal | yes, i did flash teh non-wpa firmware |
| 15:31.13 | andy_graybeal | i can get on networks just fine and everything |
| 15:31.18 | mmp | andy_graybeal: sort-of network preferences, I don't remember exactly:) |
| 15:31.31 | mmp | but if it works, it's just great:) |
| 15:32.09 | andy_graybeal | yea, i'm trying to do the ftp thing to transfer bootblaster and get the image of wince and stuff |
| 15:32.25 | mmp | just use hotsync:) |
| 15:32.30 | mmp | err, ActiveSync |
| 15:32.45 | andy_graybeal | i can transfer bootblaster with activesync? |
| 15:33.19 | mmp | yes, it should be possible -- iirc you can upload files using activesync... |
| 15:33.31 | andy_graybeal | ok |
| 15:36.36 | mmp | andy_graybeal: but if pda buzzed yesterday, it might be possible you have bootldr already installed (I'm not sure though) |
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| 15:37.19 | andy_graybeal | if ti's not installed, and i try to boot the bootloader thing, will i hose the machine? |
| 15:37.34 | mmp | no:) |
| 15:37.50 | andy_graybeal | ok, lemme try |
| 15:38.01 | mmp | andy_graybeal: if bootldr is already installed, it should be possible to just hold joypad and reboot |
| 15:38.17 | mmp | and you should get bootldr prompt on serial console |
| 15:38.20 | andy_graybeal | hmm... it's the two far left buttons and then the reset switch right? |
| 15:38.23 | mmp | (booting wince otherwise) |
| 15:38.24 | andy_graybeal | yea, nothing happened |
| 15:38.28 | mmp | soft reboot should be enough |
| 15:38.30 | andy_graybeal | yea, just booted wince |
| 15:38.32 | andy_graybeal | aah okay |
| 15:38.47 | mmp | but don't forget to press the joypad |
| 15:38.53 | andy_graybeal | ah joypad that's right |
| 15:39.02 | andy_graybeal | ah it did buzzy buzzy! |
| 15:39.03 | andy_graybeal | thanks! |
| 15:39.06 | mmp | np:) |
| 15:39.18 | andy_graybeal | now i gotta load minicom |
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| 16:47.30 | andy_graybeal | mmp, well, transferring bootgpe image over |
| 16:47.34 | andy_graybeal | from familiar |
| 16:47.43 | andy_graybeal | do most people use gpe or opie? |
| 16:47.44 | mmp | sounds positively:) |
| 16:47.53 | mmp | hard to say :) |
| 16:48.05 | andy_graybeal | that must be like kde vs gnome or something |
| 16:48.11 | andy_graybeal | i didn't know which to pick |
| 16:48.12 | mmp | sort of:) |
| 16:48.26 | andy_graybeal | hah console, that would be cool if i could be brave enough :) |
| 16:48.52 | mmp | andy_graybeal: it's for development, not for real use:) |
| 16:49.14 | andy_graybeal | <-- lowly end user |
| 16:50.48 | andy_graybeal | have to attend a meeting at in about 30 minutes, luckily it's in the room i'm in now |
| 16:51.15 | mmp | :) |
| 16:51.45 | mmp | and maybe after the meeting ipaq will be already linux-positive:) |
| 16:51.52 | andy_graybeal | :) |
| 17:16.31 | andy_graybeal | well, it's booting :) |
| 17:16.36 | andy_graybeal | this is good; gpe 2.7 |
| 17:17.33 | andy_graybeal | where do you think i can get a replacement powersupply to plug into the USB cradle? i don't have one, and it appears that HP doesn't supply parts for the h5550, just software support. |
| 17:19.45 | andy_graybeal | awesome, the wireless works!! |
| 17:19.47 | andy_graybeal | hell yes. |
| 17:20.34 | andy_graybeal | gpe is beautiful |
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| 17:25.22 | andy_graybeal | is it possible to boot off of SD memory? |
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| 17:32.55 | slapin_nb | Hi, all! Does kernel-discuss ML work? |
| 17:38.55 | mmp | andy_graybeal: sorry delay -- no, it isn't |
| 17:39.00 | mmp | at least, not fully |
| 17:39.24 | mmp | slapin_nb: probably not, I have not received e-mail from k-d for a quite long time... |
| 17:39.39 | mmp | andy_graybeal: it should be possible to boot from CF cards in CF sleve, though... . |
| 17:40.52 | slapin_nb | mmp, to which ml kernel patches to be sent? |
| 17:41.10 | mmp | with SD card, you still need to have linux kernel on the flash, no idea whether bootldr can read it from wince flash partitions |
| 17:41.50 | mmp | slapin_nb: well, actually I send the patches to k-d and Cc them to Paul Sokolovsky and my Anton Vorontsov (my GSoC mentor) |
| 17:42.10 | andy_graybeal | aah cf card.. nice thank yuo mmp |
| 17:42.37 | mmp | andy_graybeal: np, I'm not 100% with CF card, as I have not ever seen CF sleeve, but it should be possible. |
| 17:42.42 | andy_graybeal | does anyone use a wireless keyboard with their handheld? i'm thinking bluetooth is better than IR |
| 17:42.48 | andy_graybeal | thanks mmp |
| 17:43.50 | mmp | andy_graybeal: h5550 has bluetooth problems here and there, but bt should be viable I guess... . And, in case of need, I think there are some original bluetooth foldable keyboards on ebay:) |
| 17:44.05 | andy_graybeal | hmm.. okay |
| 17:44.10 | andy_graybeal | that sounds not very promissing |
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| 17:53.59 | mmp | andy_graybeal: also, Erik Hovland claims he managed to get frogpad working with his h5550 :) |
| 17:55.05 | andy_graybeal | aah those frogpads look weird |
| 17:55.11 | mmp | bd2_: hmm, any idea where/whom could I ask about the calculations of values for MCxx registers? I have no idea what's being calculated there... |
| 17:55.19 | andy_graybeal | i want a regular keybaord, i guess i'm an old fart |
| 17:55.25 | mmp | andy_graybeal: but still, you have one hand free to hold ipaq, other one to type:) |
| 17:55.47 | andy_graybeal | good for inventory; i'll keep it in mind, we might be using this for inventory |
| 17:56.39 | mmp | andy_graybeal: I also prefer full-sized keyboard, but this is something you can use even in bus or train:) |
| 17:57.11 | andy_graybeal | very interesting. |
| 17:57.17 | mmp | although not very comfortable, still far better than typing on virtual keyboard |
| 17:57.17 | andy_graybeal | aight i'm off to the meeting, they changed the room! |
| 17:57.24 | mmp | not sure about text recognition |
| 17:57.26 | mmp | :) bye |
| 17:57.29 | mmp | and good luck |
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