IRC log for #handhelds on 20070821

00:18.37mzb_d800france: Hi france, what skills/experience does the admin need?
00:23.11francemzb_d800: hello!
00:23.17mzb_d800:)
00:23.35mzb_d800"morning"! ;)
00:23.48francerunning; aptitude update; aptitude upgrade; daily :-) and
00:23.59franceit is morning, i just got off the red eye..
00:24.05pigeong'day france
00:24.09mzb_d800sounds easy enough
00:24.17mzb_d800ah
00:24.31francesince all the development enviroments are in chroots, every now and agian one will get corrupted and it needs to be erased
00:24.42mzb_d800still simple
00:24.47franceand a new one created from a tar ball..
00:24.51franceit is ;-D
00:24.53francepigeon: hello!
00:25.42mzb_d800want an applicant? (I can show you my Xen server for reference.)
00:25.49franceroflol
00:25.56franceyou are approved :-)
00:26.01mzb_d800lol
00:26.27franceI just spent the week at osu working on our servers  
00:26.31mzb_d800gee, that was easy ... just need to get past the interview process now ;)
00:26.34francethey are all on ubuntu dapper now..
00:26.35mzb_d800how'd it go?
00:26.37mzb_d800ah
00:26.56francerestoring all the data from backups, then the mit servers next week
00:28.30mzb_d800I'm not going to ask you now, but can you remember task #424  ? ;)
00:29.07franceroflol
00:29.09francedown to 365
00:29.37mzb_d800:)
00:30.04franceI put a new 1st item on the list...no more new things until I am down below 200 :-)
00:30.30mzb_d800re: my last mail
00:30.36mzb_d800(not new;P)
00:30.40france:-D
00:30.57mzb_d800(but still no hurry)
00:33.46franceethier of you going to LCA in Jan?
00:33.55franceI think it is in Melbourne this year?
00:33.56mzb_d800getting a WL500GP soon (hopefully) as payment for a couple of custom Ubuntu installs
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00:34.29francenice
00:34.43mzb_d800Melbourne? I'd like to ... depends on a few factors. Mentioned to g/f a few months ago, as she's never been out of Tas (or on a plane).
00:34.59mzb_d800so I've got a chance .... keep forgetting to register + find out details.
00:36.02mzb_d800the WL500GP means that: a) I can retire the h2200 being used as an AP, and c) that I can test things a lot more easily ... so looking forward to getting on with all-things-hh-related
00:36.23mzb_d800s/c\)/b\)/
00:36.45mzb_d800(got a step ahead of myself there;)
00:38.38mzb_d800just got another cheapie delivered this morning ... a nokia BT headset, which I'm _hoping_ has problems with Zeevo chipsets :)
00:39.35francenods
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03:31.59huhlighello france
03:49.50francehuhlig: hello!
03:49.57francehuhlig: I just got back into town today!
03:50.03francehuhlig: lost the bid at 175
03:50.09francehuhlig: bidding on one for 150 now
03:50.54huhligok
03:50.59huhligI have the kernel operational
03:51.07huhligit even boots a very slim fs
03:52.45huhligif you have a bit of time I woul like to puy together a little bigger fs
03:53.20francehuhlig: Well Done!
03:53.22france:-)
03:54.01francecan we do it on Friday...I am swamped this week
03:54.16francejust returned on the red eye
03:55.01huhligno problem
03:55.07huhligor if you know directions where to
03:55.19franceI have a new filesystem ;-)
03:57.13francein the process of building etch with softfloat, which should run well on your device
03:57.45franceI can give you an etch base file system now, but debian builds for hard float and your device does not have an fpu
03:57.58huhligsure
03:58.01huhligahh
03:59.11franceI think about 8000 packages have built...still some more to go..
03:59.17franceshould be done by the end of the week
03:59.17huhligheh
04:00.28huhligI do need to remap the keyboard
04:00.33huhligsome of the keys are swapped
04:00.46huhligand there is no support for the opt key
04:02.08france<nods>
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04:05.45francebrb
04:16.04huhligk
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04:50.20huhlighmm
04:50.23huhlighey france
04:50.31huhligdid you ever set up that ssh
04:57.27francehuhlig: sorry, had folks in my office
04:59.57francehuhlig: 1 am  here, it is time for me to head home.
05:00.09huhlig1am and you have people in your office?
05:00.17huhligyour on the east coast of US?
05:00.22franceyes...
05:00.23huhligI thought you were in europe
05:00.31franceCambridge, MA
05:00.35huhligHH
05:00.38huhligahh
05:00.47huhligI thought it was Cambridge UK
05:00.50franceahh
05:01.00francemostly grad-students from MIT this time of night.
05:01.41franceand me, 1st day back from a two week trip..getting caught u.p
05:03.39huhligahh
05:03.41huhligwell
05:03.43huhliggo sleep
05:03.50franceand now it is time for me to head home, since I flew in at 8am this morning.. I am worn out..
05:03.54huhligI can hit you up for a basic FS howto later
05:04.04francesure...or I can send you an e-mail
05:04.09huhligsure
05:04.17huhligyou still have my email
05:04.21franceI do!
05:04.22france:-)
05:05.14francenite....
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13:41.20mzb_d800hmm .. don't seem to be any complaints from log-readers ;)
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18:04.23scatterp-hi i dont program but i have a problem with my device and i think it effects an extremely large number of windows based devices its disscussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-285511-p-3.html for htc devices and here for dell devices due to the nature of the problem which is commonly defined as "sd corruption bug" its hard for a normal user who cant use google to find info on the problem
18:05.34scatterp-haveing read thousands of pages on the problem i think i have it pretty much worked out regarding the htc topic first post or near the end you can see the conclusion after 6 months is that "htc greece" supposedly fixed the problem
18:06.00scatterp-and released a patched dll for windows i find this unlikely and probebly illegal what i think happened is microsoft made it on there request
18:07.43scatterp-the file is called
18:09.49scatterp-omap850_sdhc.dll
18:10.05scatterp-omap850 (cpu of the device that the fix is for)
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18:11.35scatterp-sdhc standard Host Controller
18:11.48scatterp-as far as i can work out and is a file inside the windows/ folder
18:12.49scatterp-the original file is 3k smaller
18:13.05scatterp-so i guess data was added to the original source file to fix the problem ...
18:13.42scatterp-also mentioned in many posts was the contact between the card not being good (use a peice of paper to push card on to contacts type stuff)
18:14.15scatterp-and offical advice from htc "dont use the power button it causes a problem with cached files"
18:15.16scatterp-so as i understand the situation this dll works to send commands to the sd drive as a driver and the fixed file sends commands slightly diffrently
18:16.16scatterp-is there any one here that would be intrested in fixing this issue it effects well over 100000 users...
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18:20.40scatterp-also there is a driver for linux that does not appear to have the problem for the blue angel phone under the kernel source tree drviers/mmc/
18:31.22pH5scatterp-: blue angel (pxa263) is completely different from omap850
18:38.01scatterp-yes how ever the core problem is the same
18:38.34scatterp-and the ms source file that built the patch is the same file it has diffrent builds (or does not or will have)
18:38.38scatterp-for diffrent cpus
18:38.57scatterp-probebly does its probebly the wm6 implementation..
18:39.18scatterp-or even wm7 as the file from wm5/wm6 is diffrent
18:39.47scatterp-whats your thoughts on what im saying here pH5 ?
18:42.11pH5It might be interesting to see whether the omap.c linux driver has the same problems on omap850 devices running linux. Comparison with pxa263 won't get you any further, as the mmc controller hardware is different.
18:42.50pH5is the source code for the windows sd driver available? if yes, you could compare with the linux driver.
18:44.48scatterp-i was not able to find any source code or i would have used my limited programing skills to compare the 2 dlls in ida and add the c code as comments provideing an idea of what was changed to any one who can read the asm more easily
18:45.42scatterp-the issue is not limited to omap850 devices so the intrest would be if it effects linux pocket pc devices full stop i think
18:45.52scatterp-as far as i am aware it does not....
18:46.35scatterp-Comparison with pxa263 won't get you any further, as the mmc controller hardware is different. how ever the error remains
18:46.49scatterp-all the way from dell to htc devices with multiple cpus
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19:50.02scatterp-i verifyed the source file is not shared by ms....
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20:46.05Marexbd2, Im upstreaming the changes I made to beetles into hackndev svn ... can you pick them up from there or shall I make some diffs ?
20:46.10MarexI slightly lost track :T
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20:56.11aquadran
20:56.22aquadraneh
20:56.34france:-)
20:59.53Marex:O
21:00.37Marexhi france ... j/w what was that you PMed me about last time ... just a sec, I will look it up in logs
21:01.46MothaWorkfrance: may I PM you?
21:08.53franceMonMotha: sure
21:09.06franceMothaWork: sure
21:15.07ketroxMarex you are working on beetles ?
21:15.39Marexketrox, no, I just happened to be given that pda from my cousin
21:15.58Marexfirst thing I found out ... wince sux, I cant stand them
21:16.12ketrox:D
21:16.26Marexsecond thing is h69xx is the same device to the last screw (ok, it has wifi which 65xx doesnt)
21:16.39Marexso I just added 65xx to 69xx ... that's all
21:17.17ketroxif u have something to test i can do it
21:17.40Marexketrox, I cant mount mmc card, no idea why
21:17.52ketroxi made it
21:17.53Marexlooks according to xda-devs it doesnt work even on 69xx
21:17.58Marexketrox, wow :)
21:18.10Marexketrox, do you have your patch somewhere?
21:18.35Marexketrox, or even better way - send it to kernel-discuss and cc to kernel-bugs@handhelds.org
21:18.55ketroxi did it without nothing
21:19.24ketroxthen i recompiled and it work since yesterday
21:19.49Marexso you say you can mount mmc
21:20.01Marexok ... I will make a fresh checkout of hh.org tree
21:21.59ketroxas i was not able to login (no keyboard) i was trying to write a driver for the keyboard based on the keyboard
21:22.23ketroxoh based on the hw69xx
21:22.26ketroxwanted to sy
21:23.22Marexketrox, have you checked palmTC keyboard driver?
21:23.32Marexit has support for magic blue key ;)
21:24.15ketroxno not yet i'm studiying electrical an information engeniering and i have exams so i don't really have the time
21:29.09Marexketrox, I see ... ok
21:29.21Marexketrox, Im leaving to uni soon :(
21:29.55ketrox:)
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