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01:56.13 | wladston | hey mzb_d800! |
01:56.18 | wladston | my gf is here today! |
01:56.25 | mzb_d800 | *wave* |
01:56.28 | wladston | I just finished to set her SD card up |
01:56.42 | wladston | we're now wondering if linux will start :) |
01:57.20 | wladston | the screen is all back with a cursor-size-like white line on it |
01:57.27 | wladston | I think it didn't work :( |
01:57.48 | mzb_d800 | first boot takes time |
01:58.12 | wladston | ahn :) |
01:58.13 | mzb_d800 | leave it for at least 10mins (depends on lots of things) |
01:58.29 | wladston | (breaths happily) |
01:58.29 | mzb_d800 | serial cable helps :) |
01:58.40 | wladston | the power one ? |
01:59.11 | mzb_d800 | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqPowerAdapterMod |
01:59.53 | mzb_d800 | at least then you can tell if it's actually doing anything ... otherwise it takes a *long* time to debug ;) |
02:01.19 | wladston | I can guess :) |
02:01.24 | wladston | I'll just hope for the best |
02:01.38 | wladston | because I'm not the cable-maker man :) |
02:06.25 | mzb_d800 | take note of temperature :) ... possibly even do an md5sum of the ext2 partition before+after boot attempts |
02:07.11 | mzb_d800 | once you know it's booting, but there's some problem that stops gui from happening |
02:07.50 | mzb_d800 | you should be able to change syslog from circular buffer to file (but not on /tmp) to get more diag (after the event;) |
02:08.20 | wladston | I just followed the instructions exactly as here : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqRx1950Documentation |
02:09.17 | mzb_d800 | I always giggle at the "exactly" bit ... :) |
02:09.27 | wladston | EXACTLY :) |
02:10.54 | mzb_d800 | :) |
02:10.56 | mzb_d800 | brb5 |
02:11.21 | wladston | nothing yet :( |
02:12.20 | wladston | can I just hit the "reset" and try again ? |
02:13.07 | wladston | it's been on the cursor line for about 15 mins already :( |
02:14.56 | mzb_d800 | what is a reset going to achieve? |
02:15.22 | mzb_d800 | (not that waiting longer is going to achieve much either ;) |
02:15.40 | wladston | well ... just give it a second chance :) |
02:17.49 | mzb_d800 | heh |
02:18.07 | wladston | "warning : unable to open an initial console" |
02:18.11 | mzb_d800 | as I said, debug will take a long time :) |
02:18.14 | wladston | i hope this is normal |
02:18.29 | mzb_d800 | instructions "exactly" huh? |
02:18.48 | wladston | well, I tried my best :) |
02:19.07 | mzb_d800 | http://embedded.net.ru/rx1950/default.txt |
02:19.11 | wladston | it doesn't describe the VERY basic steos |
02:19.13 | wladston | steps |
02:19.53 | mzb_d800 | get the card into your host and we'll take a look at it |
02:20.07 | wladston | right |
02:20.32 | mzb_d800 | (the fastest way would be to allow me root access via ssh .... but if you don't know how to redirect ports, etc ... that will just take longer;) |
02:20.34 | wladston | card's on the host |
02:20.42 | mzb_d800 | card node? |
02:20.51 | wladston | /dev/sdc ? |
02:21.01 | mzb_d800 | # dmeg | tail |
02:21.12 | mzb_d800 | # cat /proc/partitions |
02:21.26 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ sudo dmeg | tail |
02:21.26 | wladston | sudo: dmeg: command not found |
02:21.33 | mzb_d800 | # dmesg | tail |
02:21.55 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ dmesg | tail |
02:21.56 | wladston | [19309.013307] sdc: assuming drive cache: write through |
02:21.56 | wladston | [19309.014615] SCSI device sdc: 1024000 512-byte hdwr sectors (524 MB) |
02:21.56 | wladston | [19309.015366] sdc: Write Protect is off |
02:21.56 | wladston | [19309.015371] sdc: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 |
02:21.56 | wladston | [19309.015373] sdc: assuming drive cache: write through |
02:21.58 | wladston | [19309.015589] sdc: sdc1 sdc2 |
02:22.00 | wladston | [19310.978343] kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds |
02:22.02 | wladston | [19310.995922] EXT3 FS on sdc1, internal journal |
02:22.04 | wladston | [19310.995936] EXT3-fs: recovery complete. |
02:22.05 | mzb_d800 | # fdisk -l /dev/sdc |
02:22.06 | wladston | [19311.014271] EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. |
02:22.12 | mzb_d800 | errr |
02:22.17 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ cat /proc/partitions |
02:22.17 | wladston | major minor #blocks name |
02:22.17 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.17 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.18 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.18 | mzb_d800 | why is it ext3? |
02:22.20 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.22 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.24 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.24 | mzb_d800 | stop |
02:22.26 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.28 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.30 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.32 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.34 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:22.36 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:22.38 | wladston | I just did what the instructions said |
02:22.43 | wladston | mke2fs -j /dev/sdd1 |
02:22.58 | wladston | and "First is LINUX partition more than 64 megabytes size" |
02:23.03 | mzb_d800 | stupid idea (ext3) |
02:23.11 | wladston | the linux code is 83 on fdisk |
02:23.17 | mzb_d800 | # fdisk -l /dev/sdc |
02:23.37 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc |
02:23.38 | wladston | Disk /dev/sdc: 524 MB, 524288000 bytes |
02:23.38 | wladston | 32 heads, 32 sectors/track, 1000 cylinders |
02:23.38 | wladston | Units = cylinders of 1024 * 512 = 524288 bytes |
02:23.38 | wladston | <PROTECTED> |
02:23.38 | wladston | /dev/sdc1 1 192 98288 83 Linux |
02:23.40 | wladston | /dev/sdc2 193 1000 413696 b W95 FAT32 |
02:23.53 | mzb_d800 | # grep sdc /proc/mounts |
02:24.18 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ grep sdc /proc/mounts |
02:24.19 | wladston | /dev/sdc2 /media/disk-1 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,fmask=0077,dmask=0077,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,utf8 0 0 |
02:24.19 | wladston | /dev/sdc1 /media/disk-2 ext3 rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,data=ordered 0 0 |
02:24.19 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:24.41 | mzb_d800 | ls -l /media/disk-2/ |
02:24.55 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ ls -l /media/disk-2/ |
02:24.56 | wladston | total 32 |
02:24.56 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 2 wladston wladston 3072 2007-09-14 22:48 bin |
02:24.56 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 2 wladston wladston 1024 2006-03-17 05:22 boot |
02:24.56 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 2 wladston wladston 1024 1969-12-31 21:00 dev |
02:24.56 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 30 wladston wladston 3072 2007-09-14 22:49 etc |
02:24.58 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 3 wladston wladston 1024 2006-03-17 05:15 home |
02:25.00 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 4 wladston wladston 1024 2007-02-07 16:20 lib |
02:25.02 | wladston | drwx------ 2 root root 12288 2007-09-14 22:46 lost+found |
02:25.04 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 10 wladston wladston 1024 2006-03-17 05:15 media |
02:25.06 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 3 wladston wladston 1024 2007-09-14 22:48 mnt |
02:25.08 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 3 wladston wladston 1024 2007-09-14 22:48 opt |
02:25.10 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 2 wladston wladston 1024 2006-02-06 16:04 proc |
02:25.12 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 2 wladston wladston 3072 2007-09-14 22:48 sbin |
02:25.13 | mzb_d800 | oops |
02:25.14 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 2 wladston wladston 1024 2006-02-06 16:04 sys |
02:25.16 | wladston | lrwxrwxrwx 1 wladston wladston 8 2007-09-14 22:48 tmp -> /var/tmp |
02:25.18 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 10 wladston wladston 1024 2005-11-23 12:59 usr |
02:25.20 | wladston | drwxr-xr-x 11 wladston wladston 1024 2006-02-14 06:24 var |
02:25.22 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:25.23 | mzb_d800 | ls -l /media/disk-1/ |
02:26.05 | mzb_d800 | ls -l /media/disk-1/linux/ |
02:26.16 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ ls -l /media/disk-1/linux/ |
02:26.17 | wladston | total 1648 |
02:26.17 | wladston | -rwx------ 1 wladston root 156 2007-09-14 22:51 default.txt |
02:26.17 | wladston | -rwx------ 1 wladston root 248320 2007-09-14 22:51 haret.exe |
02:26.17 | wladston | -rwx------ 1 wladston root 1421596 2007-09-14 22:51 zImage |
02:26.17 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:26.40 | mzb_d800 | # cat /media/disk-2/etc/fstab |
02:26.49 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ cat /media/disk-2/etc/fstab |
02:26.49 | wladston | /dev/mmcblk0p1 / auto defaults 1 1 |
02:26.49 | wladston | proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 |
02:26.49 | wladston | devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0 |
02:26.49 | wladston | usbdevfs /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs noauto 0 0 |
02:26.50 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:29.15 | mzb_d800 | hmm |
02:29.32 | wladston | should I reformat as ext2 and retry ? |
02:30.00 | mzb_d800 | might help |
02:30.11 | mzb_d800 | hang on |
02:30.38 | wladston | alright |
02:30.49 | mzb_d800 | # ls -l /media/disk-2/dev | grep console |
02:30.59 | mzb_d800 | # ls -l /media/disk-2/dev | grep tty0 |
02:31.34 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ ls -l /media/disk-2/dev | grep console |
02:31.34 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:31.44 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ ls -l /media/disk-2/dev | grep tty0 |
02:31.44 | wladston | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 413 2006-03-17 12:26 tty0 |
02:32.30 | mzb_d800 | # find /media/disk-2/lib/modules | grep ext |
02:32.56 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ find /media/disk-2/lib/modules | grep ext |
02:32.56 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ |
02:33.14 | mzb_d800 | doh, static |
02:33.30 | mzb_d800 | yeah, format as ext2 |
02:33.37 | wladston | right |
02:33.45 | wladston | if you can tell me how to do it .. :) |
02:33.45 | mzb_d800 | when does console warning come up? |
02:33.54 | mzb_d800 | remove the "-j" |
02:34.00 | wladston | it's the last think that comes up |
02:34.04 | wladston | ahn, cool :) |
02:34.14 | mzb_d800 | last thing? before/after what? |
02:34.32 | wladston | after the screen comes back |
02:34.44 | wladston | and the little console like line takes place |
02:35.59 | mzb_d800 | comes back? |
02:36.55 | wladston | when I untar I get this |
02:36.57 | wladston | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
02:37.08 | wladston | I'm still on the sd card setup phase :) |
02:37.18 | wladston | tar: var/run/ld.so.cache: time stamp 2037-05-11 00:24:07 is 935801247.642012308 s in the future |
02:37.28 | mzb_d800 | right, so you unmounted, reformatted and then remounted, right? |
02:37.37 | wladston | yeah |
02:37.55 | mzb_d800 | # date |
02:38.23 | wladston | just a moment .. I'm on vim now |
02:39.02 | wladston | wladston@Chata:/media/disk-1$ date |
02:39.03 | wladston | Fri Sep 14 23:38:49 BRT 2007 |
02:40.15 | wladston | ok, time to retry |
02:42.17 | wladston | same black screen |
02:42.19 | wladston | :( |
02:42.37 | mzb_d800 | # md5sum h1940-opie-image.tar.bz2 |
02:43.06 | wladston | 17f1eaf283f2244861508e67854655db h1940-opie-image.tar.bz2 |
02:44.18 | mzb_d800 | # ls -l h1940-opie-image.tar.bz2 |
02:44.40 | wladston | wladston@Chata:~/linuxipaq$ ls -l h1940-opie-image.tar.bz2 |
02:44.41 | wladston | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 15986798 2007-06-03 08:21 h1940-opie-image.tar.bz2 |
02:45.14 | mzb_d800 | I though you said your g/f's machine was rx1950 |
02:45.43 | mzb_d800 | ah, dm |
02:45.44 | wladston | yeah, it is |
02:45.52 | wladston | see http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqRx1950Documentation |
02:46.31 | mzb_d800 | right ... well trying to boot after a failed (un)tar is pointless |
02:47.22 | wladston | okay, my gf got bored :) she is leaving to her house now, I'm taking her to her car ... brb! |
02:47.25 | mzb_d800 | you are doing tar as root, right? |
02:47.29 | mzb_d800 | k |
02:47.41 | wladston | (she is leaving her ipaq with me ;) |
02:48.57 | mzb_d800 | I have tested extraction |
02:49.12 | mzb_d800 | I suspect you are not untarring as root (tar needs to mknod) |
02:50.16 | mzb_d800 | you will notice that the instructions are all preceded with "#" |
02:50.27 | mzb_d800 | (indicating execute as root) |
02:50.31 | mzb_d800 | $ sudo su |
02:50.40 | mzb_d800 | then start the extraction again |
02:51.05 | wladston | ahn!!! |
02:51.08 | wladston | right |
02:51.13 | wladston | I didn't know that!! |
02:51.23 | mzb_d800 | # == root |
02:51.26 | mzb_d800 | $ == user |
02:51.34 | wladston | riiight! |
02:54.00 | mzb_d800 | forget the console line (it probably won't hurt, but shouldn't be required) |
02:54.00 | wladston | cool, I didn't get a single error now! |
02:54.04 | mzb_d800 | :) |
02:54.16 | wladston | should I reformat as ext3 ? |
02:54.22 | wladston | since it's what the guide says ? |
02:54.24 | mzb_d800 | might as well |
02:54.24 | reaVer | did iPAQ gain wireless support or something? |
02:54.30 | wladston | ok |
02:54.47 | mzb_d800 | (although it's a stupid idea to have ext3 on flash card imo) |
02:55.04 | mzb_d800 | reaVer: since forever |
02:55.37 | mzb_d800 | (on handhelds time scale, at least) |
02:56.38 | wladston | oh, a stupid idea ? |
02:56.51 | wladston | I wonder now if I should reformat again as ext2 ;;; |
02:57.02 | reaVer | mzb_d800: I asked in here 6 months ago and back then I was told that there wasn't wireless support for my iPAQ |
02:57.08 | reaVer | (hp4500 iirc) |
02:57.56 | mzb_d800 | oh, for *your* ipaq ;P |
02:58.09 | mzb_d800 | i think you mean h5400? |
02:58.29 | reaVer | no, 4500 |
02:58.50 | mzb_d800 | never heard of it |
02:59.10 | wladston | okay ... i see the penguin ... let's hope i will work this time :) |
02:59.15 | mzb_d800 | :) |
02:59.35 | wladston | :D |
02:59.36 | reaVer | 4350 |
02:59.41 | reaVer | hp4350 |
02:59.45 | wladston | looks like it's acting different from the last time !! :D |
02:59.53 | reaVer | not 4500:P |
02:59.55 | wladston | it's starting daemons |
03:00.26 | wladston | WOW |
03:00.29 | wladston | it WORKS!!! |
03:00.32 | wladston | Thanks, mzb_d800!!! |
03:02.11 | mzb_d800 | np |
03:02.26 | mzb_d800 | hp4350, that sounds better |
03:02.42 | mzb_d800 | have you checked h4100-port mailing list |
03:02.45 | reaVer | and I can't find anything about it on the wiki |
03:02.48 | reaVer | nope:P |
03:02.52 | wladston | but I can't start it! |
03:03.07 | mzb_d800 | reaVer: can you take a hint? :) |
03:03.13 | wladston | looks like it hanged :( |
03:03.41 | mzb_d800 | wladston: start what .... don't press anything ... and describe what you see |
03:03.56 | wladston | I asked me to provide the timezone |
03:04.03 | wladston | but my county wasn't on the list |
03:04.08 | mzb_d800 | aw :( |
03:04.10 | wladston | so I clicked to see the globe |
03:04.21 | wladston | but I couldn't select my timezone |
03:04.29 | mzb_d800 | don't make it too hard for it ;P |
03:04.29 | wladston | so I clicked on the keyboard |
03:04.37 | wladston | and it went to a background screen |
03:05.02 | mzb_d800 | reaVer: iirc psokolovsky has made progress on h4100 wifi |
03:05.16 | reaVer | mzb_d800: it's reported to be fully working it seems |
03:05.22 | mzb_d800 | so you will see comments in (one of the) mailing list(s) |
03:05.28 | mzb_d800 | hmm |
03:05.51 | mzb_d800 | so now you probably need to mail that list to find out more (etc) |
03:06.13 | mzb_d800 | wladston: start again ... and keep it "simple" next time :) |
03:06.20 | wladston | :) |
03:06.21 | wladston | right |
03:06.27 | mzb_d800 | my girls are home, brb |
03:07.42 | reaVer | mzb_d800: no, there's a wiki update |
03:07.51 | reaVer | you know, one that's not linked on the index:P |
03:08.10 | wladston | looks like the on-screen keyboard doesn't work |
03:08.11 | reaVer | and it reports wireless to be fully functional |
03:08.38 | wladston | "opie" is the only one that I can install on it ? |
03:10.24 | mzb_d800 | wladston: mail the guy who built it ... or go to the h1940 page ... or something :) |
03:10.30 | mzb_d800 | reaVer: nice |
03:10.52 | wladston | do you use opie ? |
03:11.26 | wladston | now it's on the "please wait, loading personal information settings" ... it's taking forever .. looks like it hanged :( |
03:13.08 | mzb_d800 | wladston: kind of |
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03:13.31 | wladston | what do you sugggest me ? reset and try again ? |
03:14.19 | mzb_d800 | might work |
03:14.32 | mzb_d800 | wladston: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH1940Downloads |
03:15.04 | wladston | but mine isn't the h1930 one ! |
03:15.33 | mzb_d800 | you're using an h1940 image, right? :) |
03:15.43 | mzb_d800 | but either way ... they all look pretty old |
03:16.19 | wladston | :( |
03:16.40 | mzb_d800 | you might have to learn how to build you own images :) |
03:16.50 | wladston | auch |
03:16.56 | mzb_d800 | (it's not a "one day event" !!!) |
03:17.50 | wladston | i wish world was prettier |
03:18.29 | wladston | wow |
03:18.32 | wladston | it did work this time! |
03:21.29 | wladston | it has some REAL nice stuff |
03:21.45 | wladston | but there are SERIOUS problems on the usability side |
03:22.07 | wladston | the keyboard didn't work out of the box :( |
03:24.15 | mzb_d800 | there was a warning remember :) |
03:24.36 | wladston | ? |
03:24.39 | wladston | with one ? |
03:26.34 | mzb_d800 | "Also you can try opie rootfs (initially for h1940, some things may not work)" |
03:27.29 | wladston | buttons/leds/battery indicator/wifi/ aren't working |
03:27.47 | mzb_d800 | to be expected |
03:28.05 | mzb_d800 | I suggest you get in contact with the author of the kernel |
03:28.32 | wladston | ... it's my gf's pda after all ... I don't think she'll like the opie system :( |
03:28.45 | mzb_d800 | s/author of the/guy who compiled that/ |
03:30.57 | wladston | If at least I could get the keyboard to work ... I think she would get interested... |
03:31.09 | wladston | but without wifi, I think that it will be a difficult task |
03:31.31 | wladston | nothing happens when I plug it to the desktop |
03:32.04 | mzb_d800 | follow the link for usbnet |
03:32.15 | mzb_d800 | (ie. it's not automatic) |
03:32.38 | mzb_d800 | anyway ... looks like you've got something to amuse yourself with ... I'm on a mission |
03:33.45 | wladston | right |
03:33.54 | wladston | thanks for all the help man! |
03:34.22 | wladston | to be honest, I would say that I'm a bit disapointed, while at the same time impressed with some little features |
03:35.50 | mzb_d800 | ps: join #opie |
03:40.15 | wladston | a killer bug - it doesn't turn off :( |
03:41.36 | mzb_d800 | all kernel issues ... get on with contacting ppl :) |
03:41.43 | mzb_d800 | time to mow the back lawn |
03:41.44 | mzb_d800 | bbl |
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08:36.49 | Txukie1982 | hello |
08:37.30 | Txukie1982 | does anyone have an original wince bootloader for an ipaq h5550?? |
08:44.27 | mzb_d800 | Txukie1982: search the wiki for Restore ... I think you'll find it's possible to extract the bootloader from an update image |
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12:13.14 | lionet_s | hiya ) |
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15:06.09 | Pollywog | is there a Howto for installing Linux to a Tungsten T2? |
15:09.35 | Pollywog | http:/found something but it looks complicated http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/PalmTungstenT2HowTo |
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