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| 11:40.39 | yang | Is there anything done on linux porting to iphone ? |
| 11:43.14 | yang | i found this site http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 14:34.53 | ebbeyes | hello |
| 14:41.30 | ebbeyes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:53.43 | erpl_ | Hi! |
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| 15:57.46 | erpl_ | Hi mmp!? |
| 15:58.15 | mmp | erpl_: hi... |
| 15:58.40 | erpl_ | May ask you a qustion, please? |
| 15:59.35 | mmp | erpl_: go on, but I'm not sure whether I can answer |
| 16:00.04 | erpl_ | Are you kind of an expert concerning IPAQ installation? |
| 16:00.29 | erpl_ | I'm asking, because I just got hold on one and can't connect to it via minicom. |
| 16:00.39 | erpl_ | So I'm looking for some hint... |
| 16:01.29 | mmp | erpl_: :) you could ask loudly, wihtout asking someone precisely -- if you would describe your problem correctly, someone would answer it.. |
| 16:01.42 | mmp | I don't know whether I'm an expert, but I can try to help a bit... |
| 16:02.01 | mmp | so, what model of ipaq do you have? |
| 16:02.15 | erpl_ | Ah ok, I'm new to IRC as well so I don't know how to ask loudly! |
| 16:02.21 | erpl_ | I got an 5450. |
| 16:02.33 | erpl_ | I installed the bootloader already. |
| 16:02.59 | erpl_ | The device is connected via serial cradle to my box. |
| 16:03.18 | erpl_ | Now I try to install familiar 0.8.4 via serial connection. |
| 16:03.44 | mmp | erpl_: (ask loudly) -- just write your question, someone will answer it if he/she knows the answer. |
| 16:04.29 | mmp | erpl_: ok, you should now have your ipaq rebooted... ideally, holding down the joypad button... |
| 16:04.34 | erpl_ | Thanks. |
| 16:04.58 | erpl_ | Yes, that woks. It just vibrates one time. Seems to be alright so far. |
| 16:05.05 | mmp | yes... |
| 16:05.17 | mmp | do you have minicom set up properly? |
| 16:05.25 | mmp | 115200 baud rade, 8bit, no parity |
| 16:05.27 | mmp | *rate |
| 16:05.46 | erpl_ | Yeah, as far as I can see it's set up properly. |
| 16:06.35 | mmp | hmm, and you still don't see anything? |
| 16:06.42 | erpl_ | Maybe I've got the wrong device. I tried /dev/ttyS0 - /dev/ttyS3. |
| 16:06.58 | erpl_ | At least I think I don't see the prompt from the ipaq. |
| 16:07.35 | erpl_ | minicom just states "Port /dev/ttyS0" and the help text - no prompt. |
| 16:07.39 | mmp | the prompt doesn't need to pop up instantly if the ipaq wasn't in the cradle during reboot, you might need to press enter |
| 16:08.05 | erpl_ | tried that, too. to no avail. |
| 16:08.49 | erpl_ | is there a way to find out to which device the cradle is connected to |
| 16:09.56 | mmp | hmm... |
| 16:10.59 | erpl_ | I can't see anything in /var/log/messages as with my Tungsten T. When that is about to sync there's an entry in the log. Something like Palm ... is connected to /dev/ttyUSB0. |
| 16:12.06 | mmp | erpl_: serial port is a bit different, it doesn't have facility to easily autodetect connected device |
| 16:12.45 | mmp | you could try to short pins 2 and 3 on the serial port you are using, that should cause an echo if you open the right ttyS |
| 16:12.54 | mmp | http://www.arcelect.com/rs232.htm |
| 16:13.10 | mmp | (if you are not sure whether you are using the right serial port) |
| 16:14.13 | erpl_ | Uh, a tough one. I gues I'm not good when it comes to hardware bricolage... :-) |
| 16:14.31 | erpl_ | Anyway I'll have a look. |
| 16:16.02 | mmp | erpl_: or if you have any other device which uses serial port, you can try that one as well... but this echo trick is probably most useful, as the only device on which it depends, is a piece of wire or coin :) |
| 16:16.10 | erpl_ | Am I right that there is no need to enter a command in minicom to get connected? Just issuing minicom with the right settings should do the trick. |
| 16:16.36 | mmp | yes |
| 16:17.15 | mmp | erpl_: I guess you use normal serial port, not USB-to-RS232 converter... |
| 16:17.32 | yang | erpl_: try to use screen instead minicom "screen /dev/ttyS0 115200" |
| 16:19.17 | erpl_ | It's the dual serial/usb cradle. I only plugged in the serial plug. No USB-to-RS232 converter. |
| 16:19.38 | mmp | ok |
| 16:20.14 | erpl_ | I don't know screen. screen /dev/ttyS0 115200 -> just a blank screen. |
| 16:20.57 | mmp | erpl_: it should be the same as minicom... |
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| 16:24.54 | erpl_ | If I try screen /dev/ttyS2 115200 it says: /dev/ttyS0 is not a tty. With ttyS0 and ttyS1 this message does not appear. |
| 16:25.40 | erpl_ | sorry, meant "/dev/ttyS2 is not a tty" |
| 16:25.43 | mmp | :) |
| 16:26.04 | mmp | erpl_: ok, so you probably have only ttyS1 and ttyS2 |
| 16:26.06 | mmp | ech |
| 16:26.12 | mmp | ttyS0 and ttyS1 |
| 16:26.49 | mmp | ipaq is still in the bootloader? (you did not boot it back to windows) |
| 16:26.59 | erpl_ | at least only those two seem to work in one way or another (there are four ttyS* device nodes in /dev). |
| 16:27.41 | ebbeyes | :) |
| 16:29.03 | erpl_ | I'll try another pc - maybe something ain't right with the port... |
| 16:29.11 | mmp | maybe... |
| 16:29.55 | mmp | but also there might be something with cradle or ipaq... I heard that sometimes the connectors on ipaqs can be damaged quite easily |
| 16:32.03 | erpl_ | that's hopefully not the prob... :-| |
| 16:33.04 | mmp | erpl_: I hope too, but it might be worthwhile to consider all possibilities... |
| 16:34.00 | erpl_ | that's true. wiring up that thing to the other pc now. *crossingmyfingers* ;) |
| 16:43.25 | erpl_ | mmp: no luck on the other box as well. :-( |
| 16:44.21 | erpl_ | mmp: anyway thank you very much for your help - that's very welcome. |
| 16:44.24 | mmp | erpl_: is the serial port marked somehow on the back side of the computer ? It should have a number.. |
| 16:46.19 | erpl_ | just a plain plate without a mark. |
| 16:46.21 | mmp | erpl_: no problem, I'll help luckily. |
| 16:46.42 | mmp | (sorry delay, I was just a bit disturbed with the Real World(tm) :) |
| 16:47.04 | mmp | erpl_: so, you are sure minicom is set up properly... |
| 16:47.11 | mmp | both port number and parameters |
| 16:47.46 | mmp | and ipaq is correctly inserted into cradle and booted into bootloader prompt |
| 16:48.04 | mmp | (should be if it buzzes) |
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| 16:53.18 | erpl_ | it buzzes indeed. when should the calndar button be pressed: when it's in the cradle or before? does it make a difference? |
| 16:54.12 | mmp | erpl_: calendar button should not be pressed, AFAIK |
| 16:54.18 | mmp | at least it works without it as well |
| 16:54.49 | mmp | I have h5550, which is model from the same product line and with similar hardware |
| 16:57.50 | erpl_ | no difference here. could relly be the crade or the serial port of the device itself. :-( |
| 17:00.26 | erpl_ | could you please describe what minicom should look like when there is a correct connection. Just a prompt "> "? |
| 17:00.32 | mmp | boot> |
| 17:00.50 | mmp | or something like that, I don't rememberr dorrectly... |
| 17:07.25 | erpl_ | I could try to get a serial connection under pocket pc - via synce or something. if that doesn't work then I can be sure it's the serial connection. |
| 17:11.43 | erpl_ | is there a good howto to sync via serial cable? |
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| 17:51.03 | ebbeyes | hello |
| 17:52.07 | ebbeyes | anyone here who uses there handhelds in novel ways ? |
| 17:52.49 | yang | Are there any updates coming for the IPAQ3780 ? I haven't updated in half a year and nothing needs to be updated |
| 17:53.06 | yang | i downloaded the latest sources |
| 17:53.30 | ebbeyes | cool |
| 17:54.55 | ebbeyes | cant wait to get my ipaq |
| 17:58.02 | yang | I don't know if port is still being developed |
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| 22:16.28 | ebbeyes | hello |
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| 22:30.17 | geers | hello ebbeyes |
| 22:31.02 | ebbeyes | cool :) |
| 22:31.22 | ebbeyes | im new here i got a ipaq 5550 coming in post |
| 22:32.11 | geers | cool, I'm on a iPhone now |
| 22:33.28 | geers | I'm still a bit slow to write. but soon get the hang of it |
| 22:34.09 | ebbeyes | cool does that have usb connection? |
| 22:36.11 | geers | no not at the moment but can be connected to USB. but I rather like it to be just connected via WLAN or edge. |
| 22:36.20 | ebbeyes | there pretty nifty those iphones |
| 22:36.55 | ebbeyes | what if u wanted to plug in a little usb keyboard? |
| 22:37.55 | geers | you can run apache and PNP on it too. I would use a Bluetooth keyboard |
| 22:39.27 | geers | but the keypad is pretty good. just have tO get used to it |
| 22:39.50 | ebbeyes | awsome |
| 22:40.05 | ebbeyes | i didnt think of bluetooth keyboard |
| 22:40.33 | ebbeyes | linux on it? |
| 22:42.13 | geers | it can connect to a Bluetooth headset too. it runs mac osx. I have openssh on mine so I can logs in to from my p c |
| 22:43.14 | ebbeyes | yeh mac osx pretty good i wouldent replace it |
| 22:43.52 | geers | the spellchecker still needs some training. it translated logg to logs. |
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| 22:45.28 | geers | the scroll works wonderful. is very responsive |
| 22:46.58 | geers | I only miss activesync, since my company uses this |
| 22:49.40 | geers | and 8gb is way too little. but sttorage is allways too little |
| 22:53.48 | geers | this is offtopic to the channel though. I hope you other PLP forgive us |
| 22:55.18 | geers | /msg ebbeyes let me see if this works |
| 22:55.29 | geers | hmm |
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| 23:24.30 | ebbeyes | hi |
| 23:24.33 | ebbeyes | sry |
| 23:24.55 | ebbeyes | wb geers |
| 23:31.42 | ebbeyes | i dont think it that of topic still handhelds not jus opensource lol |
| 23:36.15 | ebbeyes | i take it familure doesnt have a compiler.. what packages do you use? |
| 23:38.30 | ebbeyes | i found page with list :D |
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