IRC log for #handhelds on 20080219

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01:21.43tannerwhat do jtag programmers do?
01:27.39Darkrift411alow you to write to flash chips directly
01:28.10Darkrift411if the device isnt working, and cannot reflash its own chip, a jtag is a direct wired way to flash a chip
01:28.23tanneri suppose that may be useful, i was almost hoping that allowed you to watch the currently executing code on the device
01:30.14tanneri dont suppose there is a device like that?
01:30.26Darkrift411no idea
01:30.31DarthWaderjtag can do things like that
01:30.58DarthWaderbut it may not be reachable on the RTM devices
01:31.07tannerRTM devices?
01:31.14DarthWaderrelease-to-manufacture
01:31.43DarthWaderalthough devboards usually have cpu jtag interface
01:33.00DarthWaderalong with flash jtag
01:33.56tannerso, are you able to use off the shelf tools to do that with? or do you need specific jtag, devboard?
01:36.09DarthWadersimpliest jtag interface are made only of a some resistors
01:38.04DarthWaderbut availability of jtag connection to specific part of your device is solely on manufacturer`s behalf - somewhere it's easy, somewhere u`ll have to bother with THIN conductors on the board, somewhere it's not available at all
01:39.25tannerhmm.. so are you able to use any jtag programmer, just have to configure the pins properly?
01:40.33DarthWaderyup
01:41.34tannerso what would be a recommend USB based JTAG programmer with good linux/bsd support?
01:45.44tanner<PROTECTED>
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02:03.09tannerso what would be a good usb jtag programmer?
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02:12.06Darkrift411erm
02:12.16Darkrift411jtag is a connection
02:12.29Darkrift411not a software
02:13.57tanner?
02:14.13Darkrift411its a connection that you plug into a circuit board
02:14.42tanneryeah
02:14.55Darkrift411ok, they way you were talking, i thoguht you thought it was a software
02:15.35tannercant you monitor the jtag stuff over the computer?
02:15.55Darkrift411ok i c what you meant
02:16.14Darkrift411yes, there are ways to connect jtags to serial and im sure usb
02:16.23Darkrift411but i think they are read/written to in a terminal
02:17.03mzbgoogle for wiggler
02:39.49tannerare jtag programmers specific to one cpu type?
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09:45.43Robin_LINEXEC doesnt work? :(
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09:46.29Robin_My PDA just Freezes.. or gts REALLY slow :/
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15:10.39Robin__Hello all
15:11.53Robin__LINEXEC doesnt work prpherly, since when I start it my PDA Freezes.
15:12.09Robin__I did Format the first part as FAT32 and the Second as ext2
15:12.24Robin__And I did unpack (xvpf) Gentoo-Stage4 for PDA
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22:14.05mzbRobin__: linexec (afaik) is not made for arm, do you mean HaRET?
22:14.30mzbhave a look at the card boot and ramdisk rescue wiki pages for a better idea
22:14.54mzbhowever, if you're using gentoo, I suggest you follow THEIR docs!
22:15.31mzb(seeing as handhelds.org _and_this_channel_ are for the support of handhelds.org-related software!!!!)
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