IRC log for #handhelds on 20081120

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03:34.59ZeroHouranyone know of a few particular cell phones capable of perhaps running a linux distro?
04:11.33MonMothaOpenMoko would be the most "open"
04:11.51ZeroHouryeah but don't think i can get that off at&t site :(
04:12.00ZeroHourlet alone any 'open' phone
04:12.12ZeroHourguess i'll be stuck with something off there i can at least ssh from
04:12.14MonMothayou're probably not going to be able to get any "hackable" Linux based phone off AT&T's site
04:12.16ZeroHourmaybe the Palm Centro
04:12.21ZeroHournah
04:12.23MonMothaT-Mobile has the HTC Dream aka Google G1
04:12.34ZeroHourthough there is this Tuxmobil site
04:12.38MonMothathat's Android, which is Linux based and is fairly open
04:12.50MonMothathere are lots of Linux based phones, but very few of them expose enough to let you hack on them
04:13.21MonMothayou should in theory be able to use the OpenMoko on AT&T
04:13.28MonMothait's GSM
04:15.21ZeroHouryeah
04:15.25ZeroHourlong as it takes a sim card
04:15.33MonMothait does
04:15.55MonMothajust be aware that OpenMoko is a tinkerer's device.  The software on it is somewhat incomplete
04:16.03MonMothait's barely usable as a phone at the moment :)
04:17.36MonMothahardware is pretty neat, though.  It has a 640x480 screen
04:17.43ZeroHourlol
04:17.53ZeroHourbarely usable as a phone is BAD for me since i can't work without one
04:18.04ZeroHourcan't call in equip and provision crap without a phone >_<
04:18.32ZeroHourmaybe i should go with the samsung blackjack and ssh from it
04:18.56MonMothaif all you want is to be able to SSH from your phone, then that's not a very limiting factor
04:19.01MonMothathere are SSH clients for many, many phones
04:19.12MonMothajust be aware that the latency will drive you bonkers pretty quickly
04:19.19MonMothait's really only useful as an emergency thing
04:33.00ZeroHourtakes all the fun outta it :(
04:34.37persiaWell, depends on the phone.  If your phone also has WiFi, and your SSH client can use that, latency isn't so bad.
04:35.25MonMothatrue, I guess I was assuming that he wanted to SSH over the phone network, not local wifi
04:36.40persiaYeah.  That can be painful, whether it's on-phone or using phone-as-modem from something else.
04:54.59caine607Hey all.
04:56.20caine607So I was thinking about starting to hack on handhelds since it finally hit me that they've gotten cheap enough that I could buy one used for cheap.  Trying to figure out where to start but I'm thinking about the HP iPAQ 6515.  Any suggestions?   Also, is there anything like an watch with this kind of compute power and IRDA?
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