IRC log for #handhelds on 20110530

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22:14.56kusznir__Hi all: I'm curious if there is still any active development on the Ipaq H3600 series...I found my old H3600 with GPE (Familiar?) loaded, and am looking to find a new home.
22:15.29kusznir__Got a pile of accessories as well.  Was going to e-bay it, but I'd rather find a linux user who knows what to do with a ipaq w/ linux loaded...
22:16.23kusznir__I tried to pull up the handhelds.org website to check on it, but it appears to be down for renovation, claiming to come back 2 months ago.
23:05.47mzbkusznir__: it's been down for years. Owner is MIA
23:05.51mzb~seen france
23:05.54ibotfrance <n=france@38.99.207.90> was last seen on IRC in channel #handhelds, 741d 4h 30m 5s ago, saying: 'right now I do not have time to mess with them, I have too many other projects'.
23:15.56kusznir__mzb: ahh, ok.
23:16.03kusznir__Thanks!
23:16.18mzbthere has been talk of a resurrection
23:16.30mzband as you can see there *seems* to be progress
23:16.45mzbbut without news to the contrary I wouldn't hold your breath ;)
23:16.54kusznir__:)
23:18.42kusznir__Are you aware of an easy way to reset a login password from a familiar-installed ipaq H3650?
23:19.34mzbsure: use ssh or serial port
23:22.27kusznir__I have serial support setup (no built-in networking).  Normally when I want to reset the password on linux, I enter the GRUB bootloader; how do I do that with the ipaq bootloader (its a linux-specific bootloader)
23:23.22mzbif you've got the serial port setup + connected you will see what to do
23:24.26mzbif it's still asking for login (don't recall if there's a getty on the serial port) then you should be able to interrupt the boot (control C or enter?) and then change the init
23:24.44mzbie: add "init=/bin/sh" to the command line *might* work
23:25.39mzbbut then the difficulty can be working out the cmdline ... doing a full boot and watching the serial debug should tell you that
23:25.51kusznir__ok, I'll do that, thanks!
23:26.55kusznir__btw: is the default serial baud 9600 or 115200?
23:28.08mzbno idea
23:28.21mzbtry *defaults* and find out ;)
23:33.32kusznir__Hmm..so far, no dice.
23:33.50kusznir__Got the serial console up, but haven't managed to find a way to get it to a root prompt.
23:34.57mzbenter?
23:35.11kusznir__It keeps dumping me at a login: prompt
23:35.14kusznir__(normal linux boot0
23:35.17mzbok
23:35.37mzbso as *soon* as it starts to boot try pressing ctrl+c and/or enter
23:36.02kusznir__I just tried setting the boot args to "single", but that is now just prompting me to enter the root password on the internal display.
23:37.43mzbno
23:37.48kusznir__Hmm..no go.  I don't have a "local" keyboard; and the serial interface seems offline.
23:37.48mzbinit=/bin/sh
23:38.03kusznir__I tried init=/bin/bash, but that seems to have no effect.
23:38.10mzbof course not!
23:38.13kusznir__I just tried: root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/bin/bash console=/dev/ttySA0
23:38.17mzbit doesn't have bash
23:38.44mzbit has "ash" (busybox shell) ... either way just do what I've told you already! ;p
23:39.02mzb/bin/sh
23:39.35kusznir__Ok, doing: root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/bin/sh console=/dev/ttySA0
23:40.45kusznir__Appears to have hung...Display shows a single penguin and nothing else (backlight off); serial console shows "booting the kernel." and nothing else.
23:40.53mzbare all the other arguments EXACTLY what was being used on the original cmdline?
23:41.26kusznir__Original command line has "noinitrc console=none"
23:41.46mzbfiddle with the console arg
23:42.02kusznir__Would the unit have /dev/ttyS0 or is it actually /dev/ttySA0?
23:42.09mzbremembers something about 2 serial ports
23:42.11mzbno idea
23:42.15mzbfiddle ;)
23:44.18mzbtried omitting "console" completely?
23:45.26mzbif the _complete_ original was "noinitrc console=none", try "init=/bin/sh"
23:46.25mzbkeep in mind however, that it's years since I've touched a handheld, and I've never touched 3x00
23:46.34kusznir__on the display, I get "kernel panic" :)
23:46.45kusznir__ok.
23:46.55mzbsounds like you've got the cmdline wrong
23:48.10kusznir__ok, got it closer.  console=ttySA0 (leaving out the /dev/).  I tried /bin/ash as the init=, and got busybox usage info.
23:48.20mzbnot sure if 2.4 was the same as 2.6, but the console cmds for h2200 were:
23:48.24mzbconsole=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty0
23:48.48mzbtry "ash -h" then ;)
23:49.54mzbmight pay to keep going back to google everytime you see something new

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