IRC log for #handhelds on 20110610

01:28.07*** join/#handhelds Thrae (~ircuser@generalmx-1-pt.tunnel.tserv13.ash1.ipv6.he.net)
06:25.42*** join/#handhelds martchukov (~antonm@algol.ru-spb-hm.net.martchukov.com)
06:48.58*** join/#handhelds MattEMatt (~matt@cpe-67-246-101-212.twcny.res.rr.com)
07:00.39aquadranMattEMatt: any luck to get pda working ?
07:01.24MattEMattnegitive I got no output whatsoever on the serial port (serial debug i believe it was called)
07:04.01MattEMattI ended up trying pretty much every combo I could come up with.
07:10.16aquadrantried 38400 and 115200 ?
07:10.47MattEMattyup, and 19200,9600
07:11.12MattEMatt8n1 no flow control (hardware or software)
07:13.02aquadranand you have two leds on ?
07:13.10MattEMattyup
07:13.19aquadranleds i think are software controlled
07:13.50aquadranthere is some tests over jtag which switch leds
07:13.58MattEMattyeah I haven't found much info on them.... all I know is they come on when there is no bootloader
07:14.12aquadranso i guess first loader is still there
07:14.47MattEMattI'm going to assemble a jtag cable tonight I think
07:15.06aquadranyes, you should
07:16.28aquadrani suggest instead solder wires but small gold pins connector for 2x5 pins
07:16.37aquadranand then wires
07:17.20aquadransolder directly to pads always risk destroy pads
07:22.24MattEMattnot sure I understand what you are getting at... I'm assuming that you are suggesting not soldering to the pads on the 2215 board
07:25.10aquadranyou can pull by accedent wire and destroy pad, it's quite easy. with such connector it's very strong.
07:25.23aquadranhttp://download.maritex.com.pl/pdfs/co/PLHDXXs.pdf
07:25.31aquadrani think it's 1.27 mm
07:26.40MattEMattAHHH okay, i gotcha
07:26.55MattEMattI'll have to see what I have kickin around
07:31.06aquadranand TRST must be no connected if you using that lpt jtag
07:32.47aquadranand you need solder two points on bords, it's place where is not soldered resistor or condesator to make jtag to work
07:33.21aquadranalso jtag to cpu, not asic
07:38.45mzbgot serial output enabled on the command line?
07:39.17mzbdepending on the source for your kernel, the default arguments may not be what you expect
07:39.29mzbkernel config is the only way to tell for sure
07:40.10mzbthere's also a possibility if it IS working that there's no getty on the serial port ... which won't help you much either ;)
07:40.34MattEMattyeah I honestly don't remember which I loaded on it last
07:41.28aquadranMattEMatt: tried without battery ?
07:41.38aquadranhow leds react
07:43.59MattEMattwhen plugging into serial with no battery, nothing happens
07:44.12MattEMattUSB, let me check
07:44.27aquadranmake sure button is pressed at near battery
07:44.51MattEMattlike the battery door is closed correct?
07:44.55aquadranthat one from battery door
07:45.00aquadranyes
07:45.01MattEMattk
07:46.50MattEMattnada
07:47.18MattEMattif i power it externally the lights come on... but thats probably doing the same as the battery
08:19.07aquadranMattEMatt: i don't undestand you. the same thing as with/out battery when it's powered externally ?
08:20.14MattEMattyes, just 2 lihgts come on, and no response from any serial debugging
08:21.23MattEMattI have not yet completed my jtag cable
08:21.31MattEMatt(working on it as we speak)
08:22.21*** join/#handhelds tris (tristan@2001:1868:a00a::4)
09:04.36MattEMattokay, one row of pins is done...
09:11.51*** join/#handhelds tris (tristan@2001:1868:a00a::4)
09:13.44aquadrantop board from bottom: nc, tdo, tck, tms, trst(nc in this case)
09:14.06aquadranother side: nc, nc, tdi, nc, nc
09:14.31aquadranah i think miss gnd
09:14.51aquadranother side: gnd, nc, tdi, nc, nc
09:15.49aquadranso you need only 5 wires
09:50.54*** join/#handhelds MattEMatt (~matt@cpe-67-246-101-212.twcny.res.rr.com)
09:51.40MattEMattcool. after a bit of mucking around, and testing all connections... looks like im good...
09:52.05MattEMattwhen you say from bottom, I am assuming you mean from the end closest to the battery
10:35.38aquadrani mean when you look at pda from front
10:35.53MattEMattgotcha
10:35.56aquadranso at right of side you have connector
10:36.00aquadranjtag
10:36.05MattEMattk
10:36.21MattEMattany of those NCs ground?
10:36.50aquadrani mean no connect them
10:37.07aquadranthey are not gnd
10:37.38MattEMattmkay
10:38.09aquadranyou need make connection on board
10:38.38MattEMattokay, I'll find one
10:38.43aquadranlet me upload photo, which joshua made once
10:38.59MattEMattk
10:40.05aquadranhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/12617418/h2210-annotated.png
10:43.35MattEMattshould I connect both pads like that?
10:43.53aquadranyes
10:45.01aquadranhttp://web.archive.org/web/20090628205835/http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h2200.html
10:45.10aquadranverify with this
10:45.25aquadranhowever it has bug
10:45.49aquadrani mean verify pin position,
10:46.56aquadranon front side are 1,3,5,7,9 back side 2,4,6,8,10
10:48.08aquadranon this page pin 3: TDO-ASIC should be tdo-cpu
10:49.59MattEMatt::nods:: looks good
10:50.17aquadranhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/12617418/hamcop.tgz
10:50.19MattEMattokay, I am going to get some sleep, and I will attack this tomorrow night :)
10:50.31aquadranok, good night :)
10:51.00MattEMattthanks again!
10:51.07MattEMattgot that file
23:38.41*** join/#handhelds dijenerate (~dijenerat@204.212.240.159)

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