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00:15.52DocScrutinizeryou know RMS fscked you, when man foo gives you >GNU foo is fully documented in the texinfo documentation. To access the help from your command line, type info foo
00:17.13DocScrutinizerthanks Mr Stallman, for wasting my time
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02:40.49DocScrutinizer~quote NOK
02:44.17SpeedEvil~quote APPL
02:44.43Scifig~quote AAPL
02:47.50ScifigWhat is the harmattan equivalent of "start on started hildon-desktop" ?
02:52.37DocScrutinizerinitctl list
02:56.06DocScrutinizerxsession/ui-startup/start-desktop sounds good
02:56.15DocScrutinizerbut NFC honestly
02:57.13DocScrutinizerisn't there any upstart-draw-dependencies-graph ?
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03:18.38ScifigDocScrutinizer - Thanks. Will try ui-startup
03:19.19DocScrutinizerscanning through all the events.d/* should give some idea
03:20.16DocScrutinizerjust that I seem to miss events.d/
03:24.23DocScrutinizersoooo...
03:24.29DocScrutinizerstop aegis :-P
03:24.53DocScrutinizerRM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# stop aegis
03:24.54DocScrutinizeraegis stop/waiting
03:24.58DocScrutinizerhmm
03:25.03DocScrutinizergnite
03:25.26Scifiggood night
03:27.21DocScrutinizergrep -r "on started" /etc
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03:41.04ScifigI'll go with "xsession/ui-startup/start-desktop". Although there are no files in /etc/event.d yet. I'll deploy my script there and hope aegis won't hate it.
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07:21.11spenapThe build status for my package in its overview page appears as «building», but when I click on that, in the build log it appears as «Updating...». I left it overnight, and it ended up timing out, and even if I triggered the rebuilt this morning, it seems it's going in the same direction
07:21.25spenapwhat can I check to make sure I'm doing it right?
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09:09.44Arkenoiare there harmattan repos worth adding to sources lists right now?
09:20.18djszapiArkenoi: plenty.
09:20.37Arkenoidjszapi: is there a recommended list?
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09:21.29djszapiy
09:22.24Arkenoi..and where can i get it? :-)
09:24.28djszapiI was looking for that yesterday, but I did not find.
09:24.35djszapideb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ free non-free -> for instance this one
09:25.09djszapihttp://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/djszapi/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan/ -> This one too, but I am trying to find the page for you..
09:27.24Arkenoibtw there was fbreader somewhere iirc, but i cannot find it right now :-(
09:27.52djszapihttp://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia/Development_repos
09:27.55djszapithere you go
09:28.22djszapimaybe someone would like to add it to the title ?
09:28.27djszapi* topic
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09:42.32*** topic/#harmattan by dm8tbr -> A cozy little place for pure harmattan device and development discussions | Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia/Development_repos | MeeGo N9(|50) CE on its way, MOSLO still missing, discuss in #meego-arm please | Chanlogs: See ~logs, http://mg.pov.lt/ha
09:42.43dm8tbrtoo long
09:43.06*** topic/#harmattan by dm8tbr -> A cozy little place for pure harmattan device and development discussions | Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia/Development_repos | MeeGo N9(|50) CE on its way, MOSLO still missing, discuss in #meego-arm please | Chanlogs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irc
09:43.16*** topic/#harmattan by dm8tbr -> A cozy little place for pure harmattan device and development discussions | Developers check this: http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia/Development_repos | MeeGo N9(|50) CE on its way, MOSLO still missing, discuss in #meego-arm please | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/
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09:44.02djszapiI am also fine if this devrepo link is added to some main and fundamental harmattan page.
09:44.18djszapiI could not easily find it, just from IRC log.
09:46.01dm8tbr<PROTECTED>
09:46.01dm8tbrin the topic
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09:46.51djszapidm8tbr perfect :)
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09:59.07MohammadAGOrder shipped \o/
09:59.17djszapiwell done :)
10:00.12Stskeepswoo
10:08.03leinirsweeet :) MohammadAG Now you gotta start planning out what to do with it when it arrives! Fire up that Qt Creator and start building some magic ;)
10:10.41djszapidm8tbr: ok, you can revert the topic, I have just extended the N950_landing_page with that bit.
10:11.02dm8tbrok
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10:25.22Khertanwould like to make automated ssh tunnel connection
10:25.40Khertanis there a way to create a tunnel on demand only
10:28.07alteregoOn demand by what?
10:28.17alteregoI have one that gets created on if-up
10:29.55Khertanalterego, email client try to connect
10:30.02Khertanopen an ssh tunnel
10:30.06Khertanthen connection works
10:30.07Khertan:)
10:31.17alteregoWell, you could edit the .desktop file to start the ssh tunnel, _then_ start the email client ;)
10:31.48Stskeepsmorn alterego, feeling better today?
10:31.52Khertanhum... i like the planning feature of the email client
10:32.06alteregoStskeeps: marginally, I've not been sick yet ;)
10:32.16Stskeepshehe
10:32.22alteregoStskeeps: I just have to do some work though, so I'm trying to be active ;)
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10:36.52Khertanwhat i need is autossh
10:36.52Khertan:)
10:37.29alteregoautossh is good.
10:37.33Khertanjust hope it ll not drain battery too much
10:37.46alteregoNeah,
10:37.51alteregoOnly when it's working.
10:38.38DocScrutinizerwtf autossh?
10:38.57alteregoDocScrutinizer: it wraps ssh and auto connects if the connection is dropped.
10:39.14DocScrutinizeroh, I do this manually
10:39.38DocScrutinizerwhile ssh foo@bar; do sleep 5; done
10:39.47alteregoHeh
10:39.54alteregoThis is a bit more complex than that,
10:39.58Khertanlol
10:40.02Khertanof course DocScrutinizer
10:40.36DocScrutinizeralterego: what for?
10:40.57Khertanhate meego wiki found something on it is like playing Sector Z to level Z-100 on nes in less than 1 hours !
10:41.00alteregoDocScrutinizer: because your method will block even though the connection may be dropped.
10:41.44Khertanwhere is the search engine (pakrat) to look which package is available in some home project for harmattan of some guys ?
10:42.04DocScrutinizer:shrug: it works fine for javing an always ready shell open to my internet located box here, since months
10:43.26DocScrutinizeryou may want to mess with keep-alive and timeout, sure
10:43.33Khertanyep but it s a box
10:43.39Khertannot a mobile phone
10:43.44Khertanyou use in the metro
10:43.50Khertanwith many connection drop
10:43.56Khertanmany change of networks
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10:44.10Khertandevel on it and restart every 30min
10:44.18DocScrutinizerI'd be interested in a resume option for ssh
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10:45.34Khertanthe main purpose of autossh is for making tunnel
10:45.55Khertangoing eat something
10:45.56Khertanbbl
10:45.56DocScrutinizerI admit it sounds usefull
10:46.21DocScrutinizerjust never head of it
10:47.09DocScrutinizerdm8tbr: op?
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11:12.20djszapilbt: it writes "failed". However if you open the build log, it went completely fine: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=ilmbase&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard
11:22.20djszapilbt: Also, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=cracklib2&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> What is this stuff about ?
11:37.40Khertanhop hop autossh package in obs repository
11:37.41Khertan:)
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12:06.30divan_workhave anyone tried https://gitorious.org/libharmattaneventview/libharmattaneventview library?
12:06.44divan_workOr this one - http://thp.io/2011/eventfeed/ for python?
12:07.48divan_workI'm trying to add feed item from commandline, but get "Service Unknown" error.
12:07.48divan_workdbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.home.EventFeed /com/nokia/home/eventfeed com.nokia.home.EventFeed.addItem string:"title" string:"Test"
12:07.48divan_workError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.nokia.home.EventFeed was not provided by any .service files
12:10.31Khertanhum aegis ?
12:11.13divan_workah, no.. I should use --session bus, not system
12:11.27divan_workbut need to figure out proper syntax for call
12:11.53Khertanhihi
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12:14.10Khertandivan, https://gitorious.org/libharmattaneventview/libharmattaneventview/blobs/master/libharmattaneventfeed/harmattaneventfeed.cpp & https://gitorious.org/libharmattaneventview/libharmattaneventview/blobs/master/libharmattaneventfeed/harmattaneventfeeditem.cpp
12:14.14Khertanwill probably help :)
12:15.12thpdivan_work: simply use the python library :p
12:15.20thpdivan_work: you can easily create a small wrapper script
12:15.35thpdivan_work: also, it doesn't need any aegis permissions
12:15.50thp(the event feed in general, not specific to the python library)
12:16.04divan_workthp, yep, I know, but I would prefer to have also the pure sh solution :)
12:16.08DocScrutinizerI dared to try "stop aegis" - can't see any difference ;-P
12:16.19DocScrutinizerany comments?
12:17.38divan_workDocScrutinizer, I expected device to start shining and talking with nice female voice after stopping aegis :)
12:17.48DocScrutinizerLOL
12:18.31RST38hfsck fsck fsck
12:18.38DocScrutinizerit's just funny there seems to be zero effect - so I'm asking if it's supposed to have *any* and I just missed it
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12:19.08divan_workthp, from command line I get "no such method addItem" :(
12:19.08MohammadAGRST38h, WARNING!!!  The filesystem is mounted.   If you continue you ***WILL*** cause ***SEVERE*** filesystem damage.
12:19.29DocScrutinizertbh I expected http://maemo.cloud-7.de/Aegis-kills-device.jpg
12:20.01DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: moo and congrats for baby step ahead
12:20.47RST38hcackles, continues
12:21.32MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, moo and thanks :)
12:21.47MohammadAGhopes it arrives before 3/8
12:22.00DocScrutinizeryay
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12:22.57MohammadAGyou got the DHL notification 4 hours later right?
12:26.20DocScrutinizeryoh
12:26.48DocScrutinizerothers seems to have to wait for days
12:27.33thpdivan_work: did you try the python lib?
12:28.10divan_workthp, yep, it works and now I'm sniffing with dbus-monitor :)
12:28.17divan_workthp, thanks btw, nice work
12:28.21DocScrutinizeranyway I'd pester ddp@nokia if you got no mail until 5h later. Odds are the mail got lost and you can not track the device. This is a nogo
12:28.34thpdivan_work: :) it would be cool if you could document your sh-only solution somewhere on the meego wiki then :)
12:28.42divan_workthp, sure
12:29.52MohammadAG<DocScrutinizer> anyway I'd pester ddp@nokia if you got no mail until 5h later. Odds are the mail got lost and you can not track the device. This is a nogo
12:29.52DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: quim kicked the right corner to make the whole gear unblock and spin again, uh? :-)
12:30.03MohammadAGthat's something I don't want
12:30.10MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, yeah :)
12:30.40MohammadAGQuim got me an N900 in less than a week, 3 days shipping too
12:30.51MohammadAGI wonder if DHL work on Sat/Sun
12:31.13DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: doesn't matter if you "want"- the moment the device moves thru DHL, it's *your* responsibility to track it, and you should do that carefully and closely
12:32.29DocScrutinizerso if "no mail with DHL tracking" in 5h from status "shipped" == first indication sth goes wrong
12:32.30MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, they almost lost my first N900, don't worry, I'm good at that :P
12:33.11DocScrutinizerit's your responsibility to pester Nokia to send the DHL tracking info to you
12:33.33DocScrutinizerNokia can't know when the mail got lost
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12:36.32DocScrutinizerMohammadAG: btw what's happening 08-03 ?
12:38.19DocScrutinizerback to your residential school in Suisse?
12:39.16DocScrutinizeror are you moving to MIT?
12:40.50w00tI took a fair while to get my tracking mail
12:40.55DocScrutinizer(DHL Sat/Sun) internally yes, afaik. Means it can move from Leipzig to TelAviv or sth. But no delivery I guess
12:41.27DocScrutinizerw00t: fair while is?
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12:42.26w00tI don't remember now
12:42.54MohammadAGDocScrutinizer, life getting in my way :P
12:43.05DocScrutinizeraaah
12:43.19MohammadAGw00t, less than a day?
12:43.32djszapimmh, packrat is buggy
12:43.47MohammadAGno worries, all delays will be at Lod
12:43.50MohammadAG<3 customs
12:44.21DocScrutinizerLod?
12:44.32djszapiit does not actually look for packages here: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta Who is the packrat maintainer ?
12:44.55DocScrutinizerrm_you ?
12:46.33DocScrutinizerhttp://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-07-27.log.html#t2011-07-27T18:42:31
12:47.39DocScrutinizerhttp://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-07-26.log.html#t2011-07-26T05:19:50
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12:52.41mtdanyone have boost packaged for harmattan (armel)?
12:53.34djszapinot that I see.
12:55.13mtddjszapi: thanks
12:55.56Meknokia has...
12:55.59mtdguesses my scratchbox aptsetup is broken, since I can't install subversion (no installation candidate).
12:56.00Mekbut maybe not in the sdk...
12:56.06mtdMek: oh?! Great...
12:56.14mtdMek: where can I find it?
12:56.40djszapimtd: I wanted to have it sometimes ago because of some polkit-qwt thing
12:56.42Mekwell, apparently it's only in the internal repository, if you can't find it...
12:56.44djszapimtd: there is no public.
12:56.56mtddjszapi: ah
12:57.11mtdMek: no, I have no access to it :(
13:01.12MohammadAGand there's my tracking number
13:03.32Khertanhum : rzr git-core package is buggy
13:03.57Khertanand packaging git require subversion :(
13:04.00Khertanstrange
13:04.04Khertandependancy
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13:05.25djszapiKhertan: no, it is not strange: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/git/git_1.7.5.4-1.dsc
13:05.54djszapiit even requires cvs :D
13:06.16Khertanexcuse me but i found a bit strange that git require cvs and subversion... this depends come from migration tools
13:06.24Khertanand should be packaged in the side
13:06.33Khertannot with the core tools
13:06.53Khertanwhen you use git you didn't have to use subversion or cvs :)
13:06.54djszapiwell, I guess he just rebuilt it without fine-tuning yet
13:07.11Khertandjszapi, ah yes i didn't blame rzr for that
13:07.34djszapino idea how he rebuilt it since I do not find cvs anywhere.
13:07.36Khertani blame myself to found a way to package it
13:07.56Khertandjszapi, he rebuild an old version of git-core i ve pushed in maemo repository
13:08.10Khertanwhich at this time didn't have depends on cvs and subversions
13:08.20Khertanas the migration tool was given separatly
13:08.25djszapiseriously, someone, please fix packrat.... I need to look for packages at two places :(
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13:10.24rlinfati$ strings /usr/sbin/validator-init | grep -i microsoft | wc -l -> 10 !!
13:10.32rlinfati$ strings /usr/sbin/validator-init | grep -i win32 | wc -l -> 9
13:10.39rlinfatiharmattan is the evil !! :)
13:10.46mtdooh, rzr started to package boost, maybe: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=boost1.42&project=home%3Arzr%3Adebian
13:11.08djszapimtd: well, the dependencies are missing at least to a nice package.
13:13.14Khertanrlinfati, didn't have same result
13:13.16Khertan0-0
13:13.22Khertanwhich fw did you use ?
13:13.24mtddjszapi: in obs or somewhere else (sorry for the naive question)?
13:14.29djszapimtd: ohh, rzr packages quite a few dependencies, nice :)
13:16.22djszapihttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=boost1.42&project=home%3Arzr -> boost did not build yet properly.
13:16.40djszapiand that is a bit old version :p
13:17.30griAnyone has an idea why my ListViews placed on a com.nokia.meego.Page always are scrolled to the center by default? I would like to have them starting at the top
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13:19.38rlinfatiKhertan, 22-6, the public
13:20.03macmaNGIVEEZ ME MOAR N)%0 FIRMWAREZ KTHXBAI
13:20.22Khertan:)
13:20.31Khertanrlinfati, fud
13:20.32Khertan:)
13:20.38macmaNpretty soon i cant take it anymore
13:20.53macmaNim gonna gorilla that glass up myself
13:21.01macmaNwith some engraved new version number
13:21.10rlinfatiwhere are the backup stored ?
13:21.18rlinfatii wanna bakup the backup :=)
13:21.45Khertan/home/user/MyDocs/.backups/
13:21.55Khertanbe carrefull backup didn't save everythings
13:22.18Khertanpictures on contact aren't saved, no photo, music, videos, .ssh
13:22.26Khertanand many things :)
13:22.34rlinfatii only wanna save the the registration of the ovi account
13:22.59DocScrutinizerrm_you: packrat fix request by djszapi!
13:23.04Khertanalso restoring a backup with ovi account doesn't seems to works :)
13:23.11Khertani backuped my contact
13:23.15Khertanreflash
13:23.21Khertantest ovi account working
13:23.28Khertanbackup again
13:23.35Khertancompare backup
13:23.40Khertanrestore first backup
13:23.50Khertanrestore avi account (signon.db)
13:23.55Khertanbut didn't works :)
13:24.04Khertanreflash
13:24.24Khertanrestoring backup with working ovi account make ovi account not working
13:24.25Khertan:)
13:24.43Khertangood luck in investigations :)
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13:40.54rlinfatihow i can check if the kernel running is from flasher (-k ... -l -b)  or from nand ?
13:40.54divan_workso does the ovi login bug somehow related to contacts? reflashing didn't help for me, and I synchronized all my contacts from N900..
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13:55.43thprlinfati: maybe /proc/cmdline has something for you
13:56.02thprlinfati: bootreason or bootmode maybe. for normal boot it's bootreason=pwr_key and bootmode=normal for me
13:59.10divan_workthp, seems that for accessing eventfeed from cmdline we need to patch qdbus first, adding support for QVariantMap parameters
13:59.38divan_workit would be better to write wrapper for C++ or your's library instead
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14:03.46thpdivan_work: someone has already written a event feed library in c++
14:03.59divan_workthp, yep, I saw it
14:04.22thphttp://www.d-pointer.com/2011/07/08/libharmattaneventview-is-now-available/
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14:06.59Khertandivan, reflashing help me ... i didn't think it s related to n900 sync as i do a sync after and works
14:07.16Khertani thinks it s related to backuptool
14:08.00DocScrutinizerrlinfati: hardly at all
14:08.04Khertanand a sqlite3db in /home/user/.signon
14:08.46divan_workKhertan, any hints on how to make it working?
14:08.48DocScrutinizerunless cmdline is different, there shouldn't be any difference in the kernel itself, no matter where from it loaded
14:10.29DocScrutinizerwonders idly how the hash/signature handling is defined to work for kernels loaded via flasher
14:11.16DocScrutinizerand, even more relevant, for the bootloader if it got loaded from USB by romboot
14:11.56Khertandivan_work, except reflash and not using backup
14:11.58Khertanno
14:12.47divan_workKhertan, what backup tool are we talking about btw?
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14:14.49Khertandivan, the things in parameters -> sync & backup -> backup
14:15.17Khertan(probably not exactly same name i translate it from french to english)
14:15.46Khertandivan, also before creating a nokia account on device verify that date and time are well setted
14:15.54divan_workKhertan, I've synchonized contacts from N900's synchronize tool...
14:15.56Khertanbut i ve problem before and now it s works
14:16.06divan_workyes, I checked it
14:16.12Khertandivan_work, i ve sync it too but after creating a ovi account
14:16.16rlinfatigrrr damit aegis... i can not even change the cmdline via flasher :(
14:16.17Khertanand ovi account still works
14:16.18Khertan:)
14:17.22mgedminGeneralAntilles, no clue about your library problem; I don't use fbreader's library myself, just open files with the add book dialog
14:17.28divan_workKhertan, hmm, that could be the point. I'll check.
14:20.29mgedmincrevetor's not here, hmm
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14:20.43mgedmin:)
14:20.50mgedmincrevetor, just mentioned your name, and you appeared
14:20.54DocScrutinizerrlinfati: welcome to the aegis foes' club
14:20.55mgedmindidn't know my own summoning powers
14:21.18mgedmincrevetor, I noticed the other day that qmlcompass did not initialize orientationAngle on startup
14:21.28mgedminso the direction was wrong if you launched it while in landscape mode
14:21.51crevetorTrue.
14:21.56crevetorI'll fix that.
14:21.59mgedmin(could be that to reproduce this one would have to do the CSS hack to allow the home screen to be landscape)
14:25.36rlinfatiunknown partition table, VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p2" or unknown-block(179,2) :( that happen when i change the cmdline via flasher....
14:26.18rlinfatithe emmc is encrypted ?
14:26.42SpeedEvilrlinfati: no
14:27.34rlinfatithen... why the kernel can not load the partition table of the emmc when i chanche the cmdline via flasher?
14:27.54rlinfatis/chanche/change
14:29.35SpeedEvilUnsure
14:29.53SpeedEvilPerhaps there is an initfs that loads the mmc modules?
14:30.17Stskeepsrlinfati: how did you get kernel messages?
14:30.31rlinfati/dev/mtd3ro
14:30.38Stskeepsmtdoops?
14:30.42rlinfatiyes
14:30.52Stskeepsah, clever
14:31.20Stskeepsrlinfati: do you have lock code?
14:31.27rlinfatinop
14:32.03DocScrutinizerrlinfati: dunno if that helps:
14:32.10macmaNok so i am stracing the hell out of /usr/lib/AccountSetup/bin/oviplugin
14:32.12DocScrutinizerRM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# cat /proc/cmdline
14:32.13DocScrutinizer<PROTECTED>
14:32.15DocScrutinizerserialnumber=ZUA030564 omap_sec.kci=916 battery-type=BL-4D gpio=cmt_apeslpx:93:sysfs:output,cmt_en:23:sysfs:init_active:output,cmt_rst_rq:88:sysfs:init_active:output,keypad_slide:109:key:inverted,sleep_ind:92:sysfs:output omapdss.def_disp_enabled=1 vhash=cf998375ea9aee53fae74b6dc405f53481e20aa4 product_model=N950 hwid=1124
14:32.44macmaNit never gets to connecting to a server before spitting service currently unavailable
14:33.13macmaNas opposed to "create new account" which clearly strace shows connecting to a server and finding out about e-mail existing account
14:33.30macmaNDocScrutinizer: gotta love that cmdline. thats what i call gangsta.
14:33.47crevetorfunny to see that the imei is passed to the kernel
14:33.50DocScrutinizer;-P
14:34.24DocScrutinizercrevetor: AIUI kernel is dongled to the device via imei, or maybe parts of the phone stack are, whatever
14:41.33DocScrutinizerof course there's also vhash for that
14:41.33crevetormaybe
14:41.33DocScrutinizerall hail to aegis
14:41.33rlinfatimaybe i need a RDC cert to change the cmdline :/
14:41.33rlinfatibootreason=usb bootmode=normal
14:41.33Stskeepsrlinfati: for -b you need whole command line
14:41.33DocScrutinizerI bet there's some odds regarding that
14:41.33MohammadAGI'd guess you need to pass init=/sbin/preinit root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait rootflags=errors=remount-ro rootfstype=ext4 rw mtdoops.mtddev=log mtdoops.record_size=65536 console=tty0
14:41.33MohammadAGthe rest is added by NOLO
14:41.33rlinfatiStskeeps, i try with the cmd reported in /proc/cmdline
14:41.33GeneralAntillesmgedmin, figured it out.
14:41.33GeneralAntillesmgedmin, changed the filename of the book and re-added it.
14:41.33macmaNuhuhuhuh, attached gdb to oviplugin... tastyyyy
14:41.33GeneralAntillesmgedmin, I don't generally use the library either, but I hit the wrong button. *g*
14:41.33macmaNlets see if i can brick this shiznit
14:41.33rlinfatiMohammadAG, not lucky with that cmdline...
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22:01.20DocScrutinizeror rather why it didn't autojoin after the connectivity/netsplit issue
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22:37.37macmaNurrrr
22:46.08rm_workdjszapi: it definitely does :P
22:47.06rm_workdjszapi: it just only checks once/day when i run it
22:47.15rm_worki have to leave to head home right now but I will be back in around an hour i think
23:04.33GeneralAntillesWhat the hell does #FF mean on Twitter?
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23:09.22vgrade1GeneralAntilles, I learned this today, Welcome to Twitter ;) #FF = FollowFriday, the list includes people worth following on Twitter (for #MeeGo).
23:09.36GeneralAntillesvgrade1, yeah, just Googled it.
23:10.18vgrade1i was getting a few tweets which were just a list of nicks
23:10.58vgrade1must have missed a lesson
23:11.36vgrade1on my TODO list for next week
23:11.53GeneralAntillesDamn internet memes.
23:12.43ieatlintbehold the awesomeness of twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/shoesareawesome/status/81743330488221697
23:13.22ieatlintthe bug will be solved soon, so be sure to have some fun spoofing some urls until then
23:14.31SpeedEvilsighs.
23:14.43SpeedEvilI wonder if I should get a non-anonymous twitter
23:16.58GeneralAntillesAnybody find a .deb for Firefox yet?
23:17.03GeneralAntillesSpeedEvil, I'll follow you.
23:18.32SpeedEvilsighs.
23:18.41SpeedEvilI can see the need for at least 4 twitter accounts.
23:19.11DocScrutinizerWTF is twitter?
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23:19.50GeneralAntillesDocScrutinizer, some new thing the damn kids are using.
23:19.54DocScrutinizerIRC for kids?
23:20.01GeneralAntillesMore or less.
23:20.16DocScrutinizercool stuff man!
23:20.20GeneralAntillesSlightly more narcissistic.
23:22.10SpeedEvilTwitter is useful.
23:22.28SpeedEvilIt's a multiplatform messaging system that works for even dumbphones.
23:23.01SpeedEvilThat lets you coordinate between people, make announcements and stuff, when they may have a computer, a smartphone, or a dumbphone.
23:23.26SpeedEvilUsed for 'Look at my shoes!' - it's perhaps less useful.
23:23.31SpeedEvilIt's all in the people you follow.
23:24.25SpeedEvilis following http://twitter.com/#!/SpaceXer and http://twitter.com/#!/TheRealBuzz
23:33.08GeneralAntillestries to track down SpeedEvil.
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23:40.07DocScrutinizerSpeedEvil: I am one of the persons that can not use twitter, as this crap doesn't even render in my browser
23:42.45DocScrutinizerand basically I'm happy everybody is using twitter so I don't have to
23:43.43DocScrutinizerup to date I haven't missed anything it seems
23:44.13DocScrutinizerI didn't miss ?
23:44.57SpeedEvilwhich browser?

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