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| 00:08.42 | TSCHAKeee | I have been using the Qt SDK as gotten on Qt's main website, and while I am successfully buildin, I am building QML apps on my N950, I can't seem to find the qt-components for Harmattan....where can I get those? |
| 00:10.13 | hardaker | TSCHAKeee: sadly, only on the device at this point. |
| 00:10.22 | hardaker | which means you need to run your app either in the emulator or on the device itself. |
| 00:10.32 | TSCHAKeee | uh |
| 00:10.39 | TSCHAKeee | how in the hell are we supposed to develop with them? |
| 00:11.03 | hardaker | it'll still compile stuff for it and even auto-install and run it on the device. |
| 00:11.04 | TSCHAKeee | just blindly import and know what the component names are? |
| 00:11.35 | hardaker | well there is documentation. |
| 00:11.49 | hardaker | and all you need to import is "com.meego 1.0" |
| 00:11.52 | hardaker | to get them all. |
| 00:12.19 | hardaker | I've actually got to run... but i'll be back later; I'm surprised others aren't here to answer too (it's usually very noisy in here). |
| 00:12.47 | hardaker | (btw, you can also use straight qml without any special components and then it'll run on the desktop too) |
| 00:13.11 | TSCHAKeee | oh I nkow |
| 00:13.12 | Arkenoi | hmm, sim malfunction may cause n950 to ask for reflash, that's strange. i did software reset sim card and it showed me warning sign until it completed |
| 00:13.15 | TSCHAKeee | we've been making custom components |
| 00:13.27 | TSCHAKeee | but I wanted to see what I could do on just the N950 for our app |
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| 00:35.54 | MohammadAG | lcuk, file manager |
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| 01:51.49 | TSCHAKeee | hmmm I am getting this: |
| 01:51.52 | TSCHAKeee | BorderImage: Failed to get image from provider: image://theme/meegotouch-toolbar-portrait-background |
| 01:51.54 | TSCHAKeee | what gives? |
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| 02:05.09 | TSCHAKeee | lovely |
| 02:05.15 | TSCHAKeee | i need help, nobody around |
| 02:05.18 | TSCHAKeee | no info on google |
| 02:05.27 | TSCHAKeee | looks like the qml components that ship with my n950 are bust |
| 02:05.32 | TSCHAKeee | thanks a lot. |
| 02:25.22 | ajalkane | TSCHAKeee: qt-components for harmattan are in gitorious |
| 02:25.30 | ajalkane | you can get them from there and compile them for use in desktop |
| 02:25.53 | TSCHAKeee | that is my output from my N950 |
| 02:26.00 | ajalkane | http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components |
| 02:26.09 | TSCHAKeee | this is an app that has multiple targets, including harmattan |
| 02:26.33 | TSCHAKeee | it was running fine with the basic Qt Quick components we fashioned for desktop |
| 02:26.40 | TSCHAKeee | but i wanted to try building a UI with the harmattan components |
| 02:26.48 | TSCHAKeee | and am getting bizarre errors (such as what I pasted above.) |
| 02:27.03 | TSCHAKeee | am using an updated Qt Creator to do all my dev work |
| 02:27.18 | ajalkane | Well, the harmattan theme is proprietary. You can't include it in an app you distribute for desktop for example. |
| 02:27.27 | ajalkane | The error is just the missing harmattan theme |
| 02:28.48 | TSCHAKeee | ... |
| 02:28.57 | TSCHAKeee | shouldn't that be on the device? |
| 02:29.01 | TSCHAKeee | I am deploying TO my n950 |
| 02:29.57 | ajalkane | ok, I misunderstood, I thought you wanted to run it on desktop |
| 02:30.05 | ajalkane | yes it should be on desktop |
| 02:30.06 | TSCHAKeee | no, I understand I can't do that |
| 02:30.25 | ajalkane | you can run it on desktop but it requires a bit work and is not redistributable on desktop |
| 02:30.29 | TSCHAKeee | I can make a new Harmattan only project and it works |
| 02:30.33 | TSCHAKeee | i don't need to run it on desktop |
| 02:30.38 | TSCHAKeee | i have the real device |
| 02:30.39 | ajalkane | well let me see if I have that background pic |
| 02:30.45 | TSCHAKeee | but see |
| 02:30.55 | TSCHAKeee | if I make a new project |
| 02:31.01 | TSCHAKeee | that is SPECIFICALLY a harmattan app, which ONLY has that option |
| 02:31.08 | TSCHAKeee | then it finds the theme |
| 02:31.10 | TSCHAKeee | so what gives? |
| 02:31.16 | TSCHAKeee | wtf am I missing? |
| 02:32.07 | TSCHAKeee | jesus fucking christ, this is such a pain in the ass. |
| 02:32.10 | ajalkane | hmm... ok... so you have a desktop project and you've manually added harmattan target? Sorry I'm a bit lost here. |
| 02:32.11 | TSCHAKeee | cross platform my @#($#@(%#@ |
| 02:32.42 | TSCHAKeee | ajalkane: I have a large project that is QML and C++ based... |
| 02:32.52 | TSCHAKeee | and we have multiple targets selected... |
| 02:33.05 | TSCHAKeee | Initially, I was just going to use the standard Qt Quick components across everything |
| 02:33.09 | TSCHAKeee | and that works fine... |
| 02:33.19 | TSCHAKeee | but I wanted to try and use the Harmattan components ON my N950 target |
| 02:33.27 | TSCHAKeee | and do new qml to use them |
| 02:33.52 | TSCHAKeee | however, if I do this, I get all sorts of interesting error messages coming from my phone, including: |
| 02:35.05 | TSCHAKeee | http://pastebin.com/XrkdFduh |
| 02:35.09 | TSCHAKeee | ajalkane: ^^ |
| 02:35.15 | ajalkane | How it locates the theme is is in some lib, maybe it's not linked with the project? |
| 02:35.41 | ajalkane | (I have the baby here with me, sorry if it takes sometimes a bit time for me) |
| 02:35.51 | TSCHAKeee | maybe.. but i'm ... |
| 02:35.54 | TSCHAKeee | you know what? |
| 02:35.56 | TSCHAKeee | nevermind |
| 02:36.00 | TSCHAKeee | you obviously don't know the answer. |
| 02:36.05 | TSCHAKeee | goes back to hacking. |
| 02:36.09 | ajalkane | not off hand, sorry |
| 02:51.32 | TSCHAKeee | if I selected Qt Quick Application when I first developed this, does this mean that the Harmattan Components won't work? |
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| 03:59.52 | your_nick_here | yay |
| 03:59.58 | your_nick_here | i am hiemanshu btw |
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| 07:14.14 | RzR | runs lemmings amiga game on his n950 |
| 07:16.43 | RzR | but cant hardly play |
| 07:17.33 | Arkenoi | does not look like standby time for n950 with active messengers is going to be *much* better than n950. likely to be better, though |
| 07:17.48 | Arkenoi | just difference is not that big as some people expected |
| 07:19.34 | TSCHAKeee | TSL ported Pinball Fantasies |
| 07:19.39 | TSCHAKeee | did a fantastic job |
| 07:19.56 | TSCHAKeee | it's in the Ovi store |
| 07:20.20 | TSCHAKeee | one of those VH1 Where Are They Now moments... a legendary Amiga Demo group, now doing mobile phone games. |
| 07:26.32 | RzR | yes i saw that on ovi |
| 07:26.41 | RzR | but i cant log in ovi :) |
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| 07:26.57 | RzR | i could run it if i had those F1 keys :) |
| 07:27.16 | RzR | now runnning battle chess |
| 07:31.16 | RzR | if you remember good old disk too test fell free to suggest some i'll make a video demo |
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| 07:36.12 | rcg | morning all |
| 07:41.45 | Arkenoi | have to warn you all: restok.conf will be signature protected |
| 07:42.12 | Arkenoi | if you edit it by hand you will get |
| 07:42.19 | Arkenoi | With your capabilities we cannot go to MALF state |
| 07:42.19 | Arkenoi | Failed '/var/lib/aegis/restok/restok.conf' signature check |
| 07:42.20 | Arkenoi | Updating desktop entries... Done |
| 07:42.20 | Arkenoi | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 07:58.42 | Venemo | morning |
| 08:00.42 | rcg | morning Venemo |
| 08:00.56 | Venemo | hey rcg :) |
| 08:00.59 | Venemo | what's up? |
| 08:01.42 | rcg | well.. am working on a treeview |
| 08:01.55 | Venemo | QML? |
| 08:02.00 | rcg | yep |
| 08:02.10 | Venemo | nice :) |
| 08:02.21 | rcg | maybe i can publish some screenshot today :) |
| 08:02.30 | rcg | hows your irc client going? |
| 08:11.39 | tomma | was there some way to take screenshot by some key combinations or something? |
| 08:14.39 | tomma | ok Ctrl+shift+p works outside my qml app |
| 08:14.44 | tomma | but not in |
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| 08:31.44 | frals | tomma: widgets gallery got a screenshot tool at least |
| 08:33.50 | ajalkane | ovi store has also good utility for screenshots |
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| 08:34.28 | ajalkane | its imo better than the widgets gallery one |
| 08:36.35 | Venemo | rcg, it's going well |
| 08:38.11 | tomma | frals, yeah found wg tool and seems to work |
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| 08:57.36 | wazd_ | hi all |
| 08:58.27 | rcg | Venemo: sounds great :) |
| 08:58.34 | rcg | hey wazd_ |
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| 08:59.55 | wazd | RST38h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37920982/UI_Mockups/Ati/menu4.png <- check this out :) |
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| 09:07.50 | wazd | RST38h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37920982/UI_Mockups/Ati/menu5.png <- and this one |
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| 10:56.36 | Venemo | rZr, ping |
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| 11:16.24 | alterego | woot |
| 11:18.10 | RST38h | anyone knows if I can take over the volume buttons in my app??? |
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| 11:20.23 | alterego | Yes, I think it's the same as you do in fremantle. |
| 11:20.51 | wazd | RST38h: o/ |
| 11:20.56 | RST38h | alterego: goood |
| 11:20.56 | wazd | RST38h: check your inbox :) |
| 11:21.05 | RST38h | wazd: yeaaah ;) thanks! taking the one with bright colors |
| 11:21.19 | wazd | RST38h: cool :) |
| 11:21.23 | RST38h | wazd: but it has got an error. There is no 82+SE. There is just plain old 82. Could you fix both images? |
| 11:21.46 | wazd | RST38h: sure. one moment |
| 11:23.37 | wazd | RST38h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37920982/UI_Mockups/Ati/menu7.png |
| 11:24.28 | wazd | RST38h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37920982/UI_Mockups/Ati/menu6.png |
| 11:24.52 | wazd | oh crap |
| 11:24.56 | wazd | 82, not + |
| 11:26.17 | wazd | RST38h: same links |
| 11:28.18 | Venemo | ~seen fiferboy |
| 11:28.20 | infobot | fiferboy <~fiferboy@Maemo/community/contributor/fiferboy> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 14h 39m 13s ago, saying: 'Venemo: Are you running the stock version on the N950?'. |
| 11:28.28 | Venemo | hm. |
| 11:29.45 | RST38h | wazd: aha, thanks |
| 11:30.48 | RST38h | wazd: wait I got no links just email attachments |
| 11:30.58 | RST38h | wazd: so what are the links? =) |
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| 11:35.57 | wazd | RST38h: <wazd> RST38h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37920982/UI_Mockups/Ati/menu7.png*** Qwertyu has quit IRC: Remote host closed the connection<wazd> RST38h: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/37920982/UI_Mockups/Ati/menu6.png |
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| 11:40.54 | RST38h | wazd:packaging, but found one more bug to fix |
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| 11:44.25 | RST38h | wazd:oh shit one more correction |
| 11:44.34 | RST38h | wazd: it is 73, not 73+SE =( |
| 11:44.57 | RST38h | a moment, something is wrong with these menus |
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| 11:45.51 | RST38h | wazd: the original menu has them as follows (left ot right, top to bottom): 85, 86, 82, 83, 83+, 73, 83+SE, 84+, 84+SE |
| 11:45.59 | RST38h | wazd: that should be the order =) |
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| 11:50.50 | wazd | RST38h: no 73+ ? |
| 11:50.55 | RST38h | wazd: yea |
| 11:51.03 | RST38h | wazd: 83+SE is there though |
| 11:51.33 | Venemo | joppu, ping |
| 11:51.40 | Venemo | ~seen joppu |
| 11:51.42 | infobot | joppu is currently on #maemo #harmattan #meego, last said: 'I'll see if I can come up with something presentable :P'. |
| 11:52.17 | RST38h | qml:Config.qml: Network error |
| 11:52.19 | RST38h | ???? |
| 11:52.26 | wazd | RST38h: I guess I've just forgot to change the number cause the skin looks like 83+SE :) |
| 11:54.02 | wazd | RST38h: updated the files, same links |
| 11:55.44 | RST38h | aha |
| 12:00.14 | RST38h | wazd: package ready. want it? |
| 12:00.21 | wazd | RST38h: sure |
| 12:01.31 | RST38h | wazd: the 84+SE image is still off, and I think you swapped 84+ and 84+se kbd images in that menu |
| 12:01.47 | RST38h | wazd: at least the se edition looks more gray/silvery to me :) |
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| 12:01.56 | RST38h | but aside from these two issues, works like a charm |
| 12:02.04 | RST38h | catch the dcc |
| 12:02.08 | wazd | RST38h: I guess it would be better to mail me |
| 12:02.16 | wazd | RST38h: it doesn't work |
| 12:03.18 | RST38h | ack |
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| 12:07.08 | wazd | RST38h: got it |
| 12:07.15 | wazd | RST38h: gtg bbl :) |
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| 13:52.11 | javispedro | lcuk: do you have a small testcase application that reproduces the xv tearing bug on the N950? |
| 13:52.56 | lcuk | javispedro, not immediately I do not |
| 13:53.11 | lcuk | i have a few things to do but will try best to put one together for you |
| 13:53.47 | javispedro | thanks! but no hurries, take your time |
| 13:54.08 | javispedro | I'm still exploring the driver to see how to do vsynced 2D and RGB xv does not seem out of the question |
| 13:54.18 | MohammadAG | can someone provide static images like these http://www.navigadget.com/wp-content/postimages/2009/06/iphone-3gs-digital-compass.jpg ? |
| 13:55.42 | javispedro | MohammadAG: you mean, "draw" them? |
| 13:55.53 | javispedro | maybe wazd =) |
| 13:56.25 | lcuk | javispedro, alterego should know |
| 13:56.31 | lcuk | his app looks like that |
| 13:57.16 | lcuk | and doesn't qmlcompass already look similar |
| 13:57.31 | javispedro | but not that cute so far :) |
| 13:57.33 | lcuk | javispedro, rgb xv was something I heard about a long time ago |
| 13:58.06 | MohammadAG | lcuk, it looks primitive, simple |
| 13:58.38 | lcuk | just hand draws an arrow |
| 14:09.51 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dolland-London-Brass-Sundial-Compass-Leather-Case-/260733134226?pt=UK_Antiques_Science_RL&hash=item3cb4e7e592 |
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| 14:47.29 | joppu | Venemo: pong |
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| 14:50.37 | javispedro | mwahaha, triple buffered |
| 14:50.59 | RST38h | moos at javispedro |
| 14:51.19 | javispedro | helo RST38h |
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| 15:01.55 | hiemanshu_N950 | hey people |
| 15:02.03 | SpeedEvil | hey |
| 15:02.04 | hiemanshu_N950 | Venemo, it works :) |
| 15:02.51 | hiemanshu_N950 | SpeedEvil, wannan try out the irc client? |
| 15:03.35 | hiemanshu_ | changing nicks works too :) |
| 15:05.21 | RST38h | javispedro: I am almost done with the packages |
| 15:05.25 | SpeedEvil | hiemanshu: Sure. |
| 15:05.36 | RST38h | javispedro:in fact, yesterday versions are available from rm_you's repo |
| 15:05.55 | hiemanshu | SpeedEvil: http://bit.ly/qHzXcc you need libircclient-qt from rZr's repo |
| 15:06.35 | SpeedEvil | :) I'll try to dig it up later - in the middle of house stuff ATM. |
| 15:07.04 | hiemanshu | no problem, Venemo is planning a public release soon |
| 15:07.05 | javispedro | RST38h: and where is that? :) |
| 15:07.10 | hiemanshu | Venemo: let me know when you are around |
| 15:08.29 | Venemo | hmhm? |
| 15:08.54 | Venemo | ah, yes. |
| 15:08.56 | hiemanshu | Venemo: join #irc-chatter please |
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| 15:09.15 | Venemo | joppu, do you feel like making an icon for an IRC client? |
| 15:10.05 | RST38h | javispedro: deb http://sheeplauncher.net/debs/ ./ |
| 15:10.09 | Venemo | joppu, since you have a good reputation in making icons :) |
| 15:10.16 | Venemo | joppu, it doesn't have to be complicated |
| 15:10.45 | joppu | I'll see about it; been REALLY busy with my work recently |
| 15:11.15 | Venemo | joppu, oh, sorry |
| 15:11.15 | SpeedEvil | Venemo: Take the x-chat icon, replace with a V? |
| 15:11.23 | Venemo | SpeedEvil, why V? |
| 15:11.32 | SpeedEvil | V enemo |
| 15:11.40 | Venemo | :P |
| 15:11.56 | Venemo | I was thinking of a harmattan-style background with a speech bubble or something like that |
| 15:14.50 | tomma | just do something with inkscape and use http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/ to add harmattan icon background |
| 15:15.01 | javispedro | :) |
| 15:16.16 | Venemo | tomma, I would, but I can't handle Inkscape at all. |
| 15:16.22 | tomma | maybe i am drunk enough to do one =) |
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| 15:16.56 | Venemo | tomma, sure! I was thinking of that orange background that the RSS app uses... and a chat bubble with a hashmark # on top of that. |
| 15:18.01 | Venemo | all right now, let me reboot to Fedora, and I'll come back |
| 15:21.03 | joppu | Hey, the hashmark was my idea :D |
| 15:22.21 | tomma | http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/files/4e4696a381585_icon.svg |
| 15:22.23 | tomma | whii |
| 15:22.34 | joppu | I decided to I might as well give it a shot |
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| 15:23.04 | tomma | javispedro, is there some bug with dropshadow? as it seems to be clipped somehow there? |
| 15:23.49 | Venemo | is back |
| 15:23.57 | javispedro | tomma: can you retry saving it as a "plain SVG" in inkscape? |
| 15:24.23 | javispedro | either way I am not sure it will fix it, I thought doing automated operations on SVGs would be a breeze but seems it's more like an art. |
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| 15:25.16 | tomma | it seems to work with own drop shadow...http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/files/4e4697253a418_icon.svg |
| 15:25.22 | tomma | yeah it was inkscape svg... |
| 15:25.35 | tomma | why is there so many different formats |
| 15:26.23 | Venemo | I need some serious help from a QML guru! |
| 15:26.24 | tomma | doesn't seem to affect anything |
| 15:28.38 | joppu | you gotta be fucking kidding me |
| 15:28.43 | joppu | inkscape crashed |
| 15:32.31 | npm_ | lovely ad google pops up these days: "Invest in nok stock for $4" |
| 15:34.48 | SpeedEvil | Is anyone aware of 'A guide for hardware makers wanting to make NFC hardware for the N9' or similar sorts of documents tht might be out there? |
| 15:36.15 | npm_ | nice SVG's -- is there a "background standard harmattan" svg for icons anybody can point me to? |
| 15:36.20 | npm_ | so i can make my own |
| 15:37.03 | joppu | Venemo: http://joppu.kapsi.fi/stuff/path1040.png |
| 15:37.06 | joppu | I tried |
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| 15:37.48 | Venemo | joppu, exactly what I was thinking about :) could you make this with an orange background? |
| 15:38.04 | Venemo | joppu, and with the necessary N950 resolution |
| 15:38.10 | Venemo | (not sure how big that is exactly) |
| 15:38.22 | joppu | it's 80x80 as required |
| 15:38.27 | Venemo | ah, ok |
| 15:40.19 | joppu | refresh |
| 15:40.35 | Venemo | joppu, GREAT :) |
| 15:41.03 | Venemo | joppu, one more small thing: could you flip the chat bubble horizontally? (not the hasmark, just the bubble) |
| 15:41.59 | joppu | sure thing |
| 15:42.16 | tomma | Venemo, you can use svg as icon |
| 15:42.53 | Venemo | joppu, just because I want it to resemle the icon of the Messges app as little as possible |
| 15:43.02 | Venemo | tomma, I have no idea how, and don't have the time to learn it now. |
| 15:43.13 | tomma | same way as png |
| 15:43.20 | tomma | it is just scalable |
| 15:43.45 | tomma | /usr/share/icons/scalable |
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| 15:45.23 | Venemo | and what do I get out of it? |
| 15:45.31 | Venemo | hmm |
| 15:45.33 | Venemo | scalable. hm |
| 15:45.49 | Venemo | well in that case, joppu, if you have it in SVG format as well, could you please upload that too somewhere? |
| 15:45.57 | tomma | you can use same icon anywhere? |
| 15:46.05 | tomma | anywhere that supports it =) |
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| 15:46.36 | npm_ | some good source for icons : http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/miscellaneous_symbols_and_pictographs/images.htm#.TkV7_9QCegc.facebook |
| 15:47.17 | joppu | http://joppu.kapsi.fi/stuff/path1040_mirror.png |
| 15:48.01 | Venemo | joppu, great, exactly what I imagined :) |
| 15:48.09 | Venemo | joppu, you've done great work, as always :) |
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| 15:49.01 | npm_ | MINE!!! http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f389/party_popper.svg |
| 15:49.18 | joppu | Venemo: appreciated :) |
| 15:49.44 | joppu | too bad it won't earn me a dev device :/ |
| 15:49.48 | npm_ | wish there was a program to drop in a SVG URL and get a harmattan icon out |
| 15:50.03 | Venemo | npm_, use javispedro's stuff |
| 15:50.18 | npm_ | where? |
| 15:50.20 | javispedro | npm_: http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/ |
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| 15:50.29 | npm_ | cool thanks javispedro |
| 15:50.32 | javispedro | there are actually two converters by now |
| 15:50.40 | javispedro | mine is svg based but there was another one on tmo, png based |
| 15:50.46 | npm_ | awesome |
| 15:51.47 | Venemo | joppu, can I have an SVG of it? |
| 15:52.17 | hiemanshu_N950 | joppu, lovely icon :) |
| 15:52.26 | npm_ | "party popper" .... it's a good thing people don't remember the 70's with an icon name like that... |
| 15:55.33 | npm_ | Warning: Division by zero in /home/javispedro/srv/depot/nit/hicg/index.php on line 222 |
| 15:56.09 | npm_ | source was : http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f389/party_popper.svg |
| 15:57.59 | npm_ | oh need to prescale |
| 15:58.02 | javispedro | npm_: open in inkspace, hit File -> Document propierties -> Adjust page to content |
| 15:58.13 | javispedro | leave no margins, click Adjust |
| 15:58.19 | javispedro | then Save As .... Plain Svg (*.svg) |
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| 15:58.32 | joppu | Venemo: the backround squicle thing isn't a vector :( |
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| 16:00.04 | Venemo | joppu, aah. well then, I'll just use your latest png :) |
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| 16:01.18 | joppu | the templates were in shitty adobe format so I had to export them out as raster |
| 16:01.51 | Venemo | aah. how disappointing. |
| 16:02.18 | javispedro | http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/template.svg |
| 16:02.47 | javispedro | though obviously you need to change the colors to match Nokia's templates though |
| 16:02.55 | decipher | hi guys. I have an N950 and today it died totally out of the blue. |
| 16:02.57 | javispedro | but the paths et all already exactly match |
| 16:03.08 | decipher | now the device keeps rebooting right after the boot screen |
| 16:03.23 | decipher | trying to reflash gives this: ERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 1: Unknown error |
| 16:04.21 | decipher | I am an external at Nokia so I have access to all of the harmattan repos. |
| 16:04.47 | decipher | whenever I try to flash something it asks for the APE algo image (which I think should come from the FIASCO?) |
| 16:04.53 | decipher | can anyone help with this? |
| 16:05.51 | javispedro | npm_: though the result is too gray for my taste: http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/files/4e46a0c27a8c4_icon.png ;P |
| 16:09.20 | npm_ | awesome... i was about to give up because the cone just turned into a triangle |
| 16:09.25 | npm_ | was going to try http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/1f300/cyclone.svg |
| 16:11.01 | lcuk | javispedro, that looks more like a vuvuzela |
| 16:12.39 | javispedro | I just implemented the custom dominant color feature that was requested long ago |
| 16:12.44 | javispedro | http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/files/4e46a267be045_icon.png |
| 16:12.50 | javispedro | red hot vuvuzuela! |
| 16:18.32 | joppu | doesn't look like it't conforming to the size restrictions too much ;P |
| 16:19.28 | Venemo | I need to leave, will be back later |
| 16:19.45 | lcuk | do you think venemo has a cape? |
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| 16:27.34 | javispedro | joppu: was thinking the same but it is actually pixel perfect 55x55 |
| 16:27.42 | javispedro | probably optical illusion or something |
| 16:29.05 | javispedro | oh |
| 16:30.02 | javispedro | it should be 54x54 but SVG actually works with subpixel precision so.. |
| 16:32.48 | javispedro | so there it is, one pixel smaller: http://depot.javispedro.com/nit/hicg/files/4e46a719a2305_icon.png |
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| 16:51.27 | RST38h | javispedro: PING? |
| 16:51.46 | javispedro | RST38h: pong |
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| 17:01.26 | Venemo_N950 | heya |
| 17:02.28 | Venemo_N950 | joppu, your icon looks and works great |
| 17:03.55 | joppu | a screenshot :-D ? |
| 17:04.11 | Venemo_N950 | can\ |
| 17:04.23 | Venemo_N950 | can't send now |
| 17:04.37 | Venemo_N950 | but i will when i get home |
| 17:05.15 | joppu | thanks :) |
| 17:14.27 | Venemo_N950 | I will also make a package available this evening |
| 17:14.44 | Venemo_N950 | if you're interested |
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| 17:25.51 | lardman | evening all |
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| 17:29.11 | SpeedEvil | Evening. |
| 17:29.28 | hiemanshu | hey lardman |
| 17:29.31 | lardman | hey SpeedEvil |
| 17:29.33 | lardman | hi hiemanshu |
| 17:29.45 | lardman | and there I was thinking it was only tumbleweeds in the chan this evening ;) |
| 17:29.57 | SpeedEvil | blows around in the winds. |
| 17:29.58 | hiemanshu | hah |
| 17:30.15 | lardman | my battery life has just perked up again, so seems it's not down to the battery but presumably some errant process |
| 17:31.22 | TSCHAKeee | has anyone done qml using harmattan components that reflows to portrait or landscape orientations? |
| 17:32.57 | lardman | argh QDBusError("org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod", "Method "RegisterDBusCallback" with signature "ssss" on interface "org.maemo.photoanalyser" doesn't exist |
| 17:33.09 | lardman | I do hope I'm getting closer to the answer..... |
| 17:33.46 | lardman | looks to see what code letter a variant should have |
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| 17:59.24 | Venemo_N950 | hm |
| 17:59.43 | Venemo_N950 | found a new bug... |
| 18:02.32 | Jaffa | alterego: Glad you got it sorted |
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| 18:21.31 | TSCHAKeee | where are the qml harmattan examples? |
| 18:26.55 | Elessar | http://qt.gitorious.org/qt-components/qt-components |
| 18:26.58 | Elessar | there are some of them |
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| 18:41.45 | TSCHAKeee | it's not exactly clear, how to make QML that conforms to Nokia's UI guidelines |
| 18:43.58 | Elessar | erm.. does it exists? |
| 18:50.09 | TSCHAKeee | yes |
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| 18:56.47 | javispedro | lcuk: you once asked if xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 0.4.0-258+0m6 is much changed from the ones we have the source of. |
| 18:56.59 | javispedro | lcuk: the answer is yes, a lot. |
| 18:57.16 | Venemo_N950 | javispedro, any news about fmtx/fmrx? |
| 18:57.38 | javispedro | is comparing a coredump from having crashed Xorg on the N950 to the source code that is available and they not resemble very little |
| 18:58.11 | javispedro | Venemo_N950: http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=28935&postcount=14 |
| 18:58.18 | javispedro | Venemo_N950: given up for the time being until I have more info |
| 18:58.38 | Venemo_N950 | mhm |
| 18:59.28 | Venemo_N950 | that page doesn't wanna load in my crappy connection |
| 19:00.09 | Venemo_N950 | ~ping |
| 19:00.09 | infobot | ~pong |
| 19:00.33 | Venemo_N950 | ok, then I'm not disconnected |
| 19:00.49 | lcuk | javispedro, I expected it would have done |
| 19:01.59 | javispedro | :( |
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| 19:02.30 | javispedro | damn MIT license |
| 19:02.36 | javispedro | it is a nokia-binary |
| 19:02.53 | Venemo_N950 | so, anyone interested in a Harmattan IRC client, the good news is that it's well on the way, completed soon. a v0.1 will be released this evening. |
| 19:03.14 | Venemo_N950 | javispedro, xorg? |
| 19:03.29 | javispedro | no, the changes Nokia made to the fbdev driver |
| 19:03.53 | RST38h | Venemo: gimme. |
| 19:06.03 | Venemo_N950 | RST38h, there is still a bug I wanna fix... unfortunately I don't know what causes it |
| 19:06.56 | Venemo_N950 | RST38h, if you're comfortable with building stuff for yourself, see the links in /topic of #irc-chatter |
| 19:08.31 | javispedro | curses and ponders when to open the Harmattan License Change Requests Queue |
| 19:08.32 | Venemo_N950 | RST38h, it needs a simple qmake+make |
| 19:08.45 | TSCHAKeee | okay, |
| 19:08.46 | Venemo_N950 | javispedro, for what purpose? |
| 19:08.53 | TSCHAKeee | those examples run TERRIBLY on the n950 |
| 19:09.01 | Venemo_N950 | javispedro, I can tell you what the results will be |
| 19:09.02 | TSCHAKeee | are there _ANY_ REAL harmattan platform API examples? |
| 19:09.11 | javispedro | c'mon, fbdev was open, and from the changelog they've just done a "cleanup", and THEN closed it |
| 19:09.13 | TSCHAKeee | qt-components doesn't cut it |
| 19:09.24 | Venemo_N950 | TSCHAKeee, what kind of examples are you looking for? |
| 19:09.39 | TSCHAKeee | Venemo_N950: i'm looking for QML that conforms to Nokia's N9 UX guidelines |
| 19:09.57 | TSCHAKeee | what we're supposed to use to make apps that conform to those guidelines. |
| 19:10.07 | TSCHAKeee | i mean, this is basic stuff |
| 19:10.20 | TSCHAKeee | I know you guys are programmers and thus have no real interest in aesthetics |
| 19:10.23 | TSCHAKeee | but still |
| 19:11.04 | TSCHAKeee | I am trying to make a version of my orbiter that I can realistically deploy to Ovi |
| 19:11.11 | TSCHAKeee | and that is one of the requirements |
| 19:11.23 | Venemo_N950 | TSCHAKeee, what is wrong with qt-components? |
| 19:11.31 | TSCHAKeee | have you _RUN_ the demos? |
| 19:11.36 | TSCHAKeee | i mean, actually run them |
| 19:11.41 | TSCHAKeee | like, the flickr example |
| 19:11.43 | Venemo_N950 | nope |
| 19:11.48 | Venemo_N950 | I just made apps |
| 19:12.04 | TSCHAKeee | ok, so you wrote those? |
| 19:12.20 | TSCHAKeee | makes some screenies |
| 19:12.25 | Venemo_N950 | wut? |
| 19:12.43 | SpeedEvil | Venemo isn't with nokia. |
| 19:12.46 | SpeedEvil | AIUI |
| 19:12.55 | TSCHAKeee | seriously, I'm pissed |
| 19:13.06 | Venemo_N950 | I wrote two apps with qt-components, but I never read their examples |
| 19:13.33 | Venemo_N950 | SpeedEvil, yeah, you are right |
| 19:13.39 | javispedro | TSCHAKeee: if you're the kind of guy that gets pissed with qt-components dissimilarities with the stock apps, then use libmeegotouch |
| 19:13.57 | TSCHAKeee | for example, how am I supposed to make the coloured headers that are present with most of those apps? |
| 19:14.07 | lcuk | TSCHAKeee, screenshots ples |
| 19:14.09 | lcuk | please |
| 19:15.16 | ajalkane | TSCHAKeee: there is many components missing from QML. Most of the stock apps are made using the deprecated MeeGo Touch Framework |
| 19:15.30 | TSCHAKeee | of course it is |
| 19:15.30 | Venemo_N950 | TSCHAKeee, those are not required at all. but you could just put a Rectangle at the top of your Page, and you could add a Label to that rectangle |
| 19:15.47 | ajalkane | I expect those components to come in time. For now, we have to bite the bullet and do our best impression of them with QML |
| 19:15.49 | TSCHAKeee | not that that is required |
| 19:15.59 | Venemo_N950 | TSCHAKeee, according to frals, this is how he did it for the facebook app |
| 19:16.01 | TSCHAKeee | but I am TRYING to make stuff CONSSITENT! |
| 19:16.06 | TSCHAKeee | damned keyboard. |
| 19:16.14 | javispedro | TSCHAKeee: consistence is not really valued in this platform.. |
| 19:16.28 | ajalkane | I share your pain, sir, and I'm struggling with making things consistent also. |
| 19:17.11 | lcuk | TSCHAKeee, I would expect with your app crossing different platforms |
| 19:17.22 | lcuk | making same app look like your others would be the consistent way? |
| 19:17.31 | TSCHAKeee | lcuk: i am making QML optimized for each platform |
| 19:17.41 | lcuk | otherwise holding remote control using one ux and main system with another |
| 19:17.42 | lcuk | etc |
| 19:17.48 | lcuk | would throw off users |
| 19:17.54 | ajalkane | hey... how can I ssh as user into the device? ssh:ing as developer is easy of course (and as root as the password is known), but how about as user? Do I first have to set passwd in the device or what's the recommended way? |
| 19:17.56 | TSCHAKeee | not if you actually spend time making a UI that mas ense |
| 19:17.57 | lcuk | look at apple |
| 19:18.05 | lcuk | they keep their branding across the board |
| 19:18.24 | TSCHAKeee | I am trying to do that, but I also want to make something that makes sense on this handset |
| 19:18.28 | TSCHAKeee | it's a balance |
| 19:18.28 | lcuk | ajalkane, ssh in as root |
| 19:18.33 | lcuk | setup user passwd |
| 19:18.35 | TSCHAKeee | and trust me, have a loooot more experience with this than yo do |
| 19:18.36 | lcuk | then have fun |
| 19:18.37 | TSCHAKeee | :) |
| 19:18.49 | lcuk | TSCHAKeee, o_O |
| 19:18.49 | ajalkane | ok thx lcuk |
| 19:19.04 | Venemo_N950 | :) |
| 19:19.06 | TSCHAKeee | i'm going on 20+ years of making user facing apps, you? ;0 |
| 19:19.10 | TSCHAKeee | :) |
| 19:19.31 | TSCHAKeee | nevermind sorry, not trying to get into an argument or fight. |
| 19:19.37 | TSCHAKeee | just frustrated and angry. |
| 19:19.47 | Venemo_N950 | heh |
| 19:19.57 | lcuk | TSCHAKeee, i just asked why you did not make your apps look the same as each other |
| 19:20.06 | lcuk | which I would expect ;) |
| 19:20.13 | TSCHAKeee | they will have similar branding |
| 19:20.20 | TSCHAKeee | but the UXes will be optimized for each device |
| 19:20.27 | Venemo_N950 | well... just start coding and things will come together |
| 19:20.29 | lcuk | meh |
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| 19:20.56 | Venemo_N950 | TSCHAKeee, I can offer you my own code to use as example :P |
| 19:20.57 | TSCHAKeee | that's the crazy reasoning behind QML |
| 19:21.01 | TSCHAKeee | Venemo_N950: thanks. |
| 19:21.04 | Elessar | is there any way to get harmattan toolchain without downloading the full sdk? |
| 19:21.15 | GAN900 | You want consistent, you want Qt Components. |
| 19:21.26 | GAN900 | You want custom you want plain QML. |
| 19:21.41 | TSCHAKeee | each target gets its own QML |
| 19:21.43 | Venemo_N950 | Elessar, if you can get hold of the MADDE files, you can install it into MADDE |
| 19:22.01 | TSCHAKeee | which is why Nokia went down this path. |
| 19:22.09 | TSCHAKeee | it's not one size fits all |
| 19:22.14 | TSCHAKeee | you can't design stuff that way |
| 19:22.15 | GAN900 | TSCHAKeee, I think I'm missing the issue a bit. |
| 19:22.30 | GAN900 | Why isn't Components acceptable? |
| 19:22.49 | TSCHAKeee | GAN900: it's not that it's not acceptable, it's that, I'm trying to make something that looks like the other apps on the handset. |
| 19:22.55 | lcuk | TSCHAKeee, sure you can, iphone apps scale onto ipad |
| 19:23.08 | GAN900 | lcuk, not gracefully. |
| 19:23.09 | ajalkane | GAN900: Components is missing many things. For example Group Headers, the color bar, the time picker. These are just the things I've ran into |
| 19:23.15 | TSCHAKeee | lcuk: not exactly. |
| 19:23.18 | lcuk | and a correctly written app in anything really has scale invariance |
| 19:23.26 | TSCHAKeee | sigh. |
| 19:23.32 | GAN900 | lcuk, and that isn't a particularly productive argument. |
| 19:23.48 | javispedro | the only framework that even approximantes to the idea that the same interface can run on both handset and tablet is Palm's Enyo |
| 19:24.03 | javispedro | s/approximantes/approximate |
| 19:24.04 | TSCHAKeee | i've been down this road |
| 19:24.11 | GAN900 | TSCHAKeee, Components is what's going to get you consistency. |
| 19:24.12 | TSCHAKeee | with multiple platforms and UIs |
| 19:24.12 | lcuk | GAN900, it is like computing has regressed! we went through a phase where size handles and window resizing was common |
| 19:24.20 | TSCHAKeee | GAN900: yeah, I know..but stuff is missing |
| 19:24.22 | Venemo_N950 | ajalkane, it is not missing the time picker |
| 19:24.23 | lcuk | now it seems that everybody is back to one individual fixed size |
| 19:24.24 | GAN900 | Yes, it's got some nasty warts. |
| 19:24.29 | lcuk | like SVG was never invented |
| 19:24.35 | lcuk | the S is important |
| 19:24.37 | ajalkane | Venemo_N950: It has timepicker, but it's completely different than what's used in the stock apps |
| 19:24.44 | GAN900 | fiferboy is probably the guy to talk to about dealing with them. :P |
| 19:24.57 | TSCHAKeee | lcuk: no, we didn't regress... we learned that you can't make a UI that fits everything. |
| 19:24.58 | javispedro | lcuk: the problem is stuff like that a mail application should be a two column view on a tablet, but a paged view on a handset |
| 19:25.03 | GAN900 | lcuk, different usecases for different device formfactors. |
| 19:25.07 | TSCHAKeee | bingo |
| 19:25.13 | TSCHAKeee | GAN900 hit it right on the head. |
| 19:25.17 | GAN900 | A handset doesn't serve the same purpose as a tablet or a laptop. |
| 19:25.19 | lcuk | javispedro, intelligent use of resize event |
| 19:25.28 | lcuk | GAN900, entirely agree on that aspect |
| 19:25.34 | lcuk | is just chewing the cud |
| 19:25.42 | GAN900 | lcuk, clearly. :/ |
| 19:25.46 | lcuk | heh |
| 19:25.53 | TSCHAKeee | i'm going back to work |
| 19:25.58 | javispedro | lcuk: too much work for such an intelligent resize. in VB parlance, it would be like if on resize you end up with one form instead of two. |
| 19:25.59 | TSCHAKeee | as it seems i have set off a bomb in here. |
| 19:26.00 | Venemo_N950 | my apps are http://gitorious.org/colorful-apps/irc-chatter and http://gitorious.org/colorful-apps/memory-game (harmattan branch) - they work fine with qt-components |
| 19:26.01 | Venemo_N950 | not sure why you guys are whining |
| 19:26.09 | GAN900 | TSCHAKeee, I think a lot of it is supposed to improve with the retail firmware. |
| 19:26.18 | TSCHAKeee | GAN900: I hope so. |
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| 19:26.29 | Venemo_N950 | chech the 'QMLComp...' apps in N950, they have every component |
| 19:26.30 | GAN900 | Venemo_N950, missing components, broken documentation. |
| 19:26.35 | Venemo_N950 | some stuff is in 'import com.meego.extras 1.0' |
| 19:26.36 | TSCHAKeee | yup |
| 19:26.37 | lcuk | javispedro, the design was too cramped initially ;) |
| 19:26.40 | Venemo_N950 | but they ARE there |
| 19:28.05 | Venemo_N950 | some of them are not documented enough, in that we agree |
| 19:28.19 | lcuk | javispedro, as late as 2009, we had to design ui layouts to fit 800*600 for desktops |
| 19:28.30 | lcuk | no fun, but was the norm for what we did |
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| 19:28.53 | javispedro | lcuk: there's one big difference |
| 19:28.57 | javispedro | lcuk: dpi was usually the same |
| 19:29.02 | javispedro | or very similar |
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| 19:30.07 | javispedro | here, you have to design for a 300dpi screen and a 100dpi screen |
| 19:30.41 | TSCHAKeee | yes, that is a critical difference now, the physical display sizes are wildly different now |
| 19:31.14 | TSCHAKeee | I saw this coming when I was doing app work for GRiD tablets. |
| 19:32.00 | javispedro | no, you didn't! |
| 19:32.08 | javispedro | :O) |
| 19:32.28 | TSCHAKeee | where is anchors.margins: UiConstants.DefaultMargin defined? |
| 19:32.47 | TSCHAKeee | javispedro: yeah, I did. |
| 19:34.17 | ajalkane | UiConstants.DefaultMargin is defined in the qt-components plugin.cpp |
| 19:36.01 | Venemo_N950 | TSCHAKeee, UIConstants.js, but it's probably available in some component's platformStyle property |
| 19:36.08 | TSCHAKeee | ok |
| 19:36.56 | TSCHAKeee | what's weird, is that I try to use it, and it can't find it. |
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| 19:38.30 | Venemo_N950 | it's not in your project, course it can't find it |
| 19:39.35 | frals | js-files are not included by imports in qml atm, but afaik qtcomponents 1.1 exports the uiconstants through c++ so they are available when imported |
| 19:40.08 | ajalkane | UIConstants(.js) is different than UiConstants. UIConstants.js's defines are all upper case (like UIConstants.FONT_DEFAULT). UiConstants is in the c++ plugin code, and is mixed case. |
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| 19:43.25 | TSCHAKeee | I'm wanting to make sure to apply the correct margins, which should I use? |
| 19:44.03 | Venemo_N950 | I use a margin of 10 |
| 19:44.16 | TSCHAKeee | facepalms. |
| 19:44.19 | TSCHAKeee | ok. |
| 19:44.27 | Venemo_N950 | since it's inconsistent in the builtin apps too, I don't think anyone cares... |
| 19:44.28 | TSCHAKeee | so much for doing this shit right. |
| 19:46.18 | Venemo_N950 | shrugs |
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| 19:47.59 | GAN900 | Well, the consistency is that it's somewhat inconsistent. :P |
| 19:48.15 | GAN900 | As long as it looks clean and usable you're mostly OK. |
| 19:48.40 | Venemo_N950 | GAN900 ++ |
| 19:48.48 | ajalkane | Default margin is 16 |
| 19:48.56 | Venemo_N950 | GAN900, are you interested in an N950 irc client |
| 19:49.17 | GAN900 | Yes. |
| 19:49.28 | Venemo_N950 | I think I recall you saying you missed it |
| 19:49.41 | GAN900 | That, FBReader and GTalk and I can actually use the damn thing day-to-day. |
| 19:50.07 | Venemo_N950 | just asking because I'm planning on a v0.1 this evening :) |
| 19:50.20 | GAN900 | cool |
| 19:50.25 | TSCHAKeee | i would like a copy, as well. |
| 19:50.27 | SpeedEvil | Cool. |
| 19:50.32 | SpeedEvil | Me too. |
| 19:51.09 | Venemo_N950 | I still have one or two nasty bugs to fix, but then I'll publish a .deb so people can start battle-testing it |
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| 19:53.01 | Venemo_N950 | SpeedEvil, GAN900, TSCHAKeee, see the /topic in #irc-chatter for its wiki page. feel free to add any feature requests to the wishlist :) |
| 19:53.41 | Venemo_N950 | there is also a nice screenshot at that page |
| 19:55.33 | lcuk | http://wiki.meego.com/User:Venemo/IRC_Chatter#Wish_list |
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| 19:57.21 | lardman | hey lcuk, it appears my battery problem is not hw but sw as it's now back to very long life again |
| 19:57.42 | lardman | i.e. less that 25% down since this morning |
| 19:59.39 | SpeedEvil | ponders ideas. |
| 20:00.04 | lcuk | lardman, good to hear |
| 20:00.18 | lcuk | but odd it might have been environmental then |
| 20:00.25 | lcuk | ie signal strength as you suggested |
| 20:00.34 | GAN900 | Venemo_N950, does it do nick coloring? |
| 20:00.51 | GAN900 | and can you hash it to more colors (and more randomly) than XChat? |
| 20:00.58 | lardman | lcuk: not sure about the environmental as I've not been home all day |
| 20:01.17 | lardman | lcuk: though the camera failed to start earlier today, so perhaps something had stopped running |
| 20:01.24 | lardman | no idea |
| 20:01.32 | lcuk | dunno |
| 20:01.36 | lcuk | either way, solved! |
| 20:01.47 | lardman | well, for the time being! ;) |
| 20:01.54 | lardman | I need to work out what it was caused by |
| 20:02.31 | lardman | is having troubles with circularly referencing include files |
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| 20:09.42 | TSCHAKeee | has anyone experimented with using a Flow positioner to make QML that lays out in Landscape/Portrait? |
| 20:17.30 | Venemo_N950 | I need to leave now... ttyl |
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| 21:09.13 | lcuk | the qmldial is very pretty :) |
| 21:09.27 | lcuk | javis could modify it for a compass |
| 21:25.35 | trx | RST38h i have seen in the logs that you have tried to get a handle/access to the toolbar in application without using QML, have you had any success? |
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| 21:59.38 | RST38h | BTW, which part of packaging process generates the .deb filename? |
| 21:59.48 | RST38h | Need to replace _armel with _harmattan. Doable? |
| 22:01.09 | kimju | why would you need to do that? |
| 22:01.30 | RST38h | to distinguish between harmattan and fremantle packages? |
| 22:01.59 | kimju | use the -localpart of the version for that. |
| 22:02.24 | kimju | x.y.z-1fremantle1 vs. x.y.z-1harmattan1 |
| 22:02.49 | RST38h | meh |
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| 22:20.19 | trx | RST38h any suggestion for my question? |
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| 22:50.30 | SpeedEvil | Does anyone hav any suggestions for screen protectors? |
| 22:54.23 | MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, screen is the last thing I'd worry about |
| 22:54.39 | SpeedEvil | And yes |
| 22:56.49 | MohammadAG | the device's body seems kinda cheapish |
| 22:57.27 | MohammadAG | but I must admit, I got something similar to a scratch (obviously it wasn't), a good wipe with some tissues and water took care of it |
| 22:59.47 | kimju | zagg's invisibleshield, full body cover would be nice. but changes of them making one for such obscure device are pretty low. |
| 23:02.01 | SpeedEvil | Leak them the specs as the iphone 6, tell them you have a proto. |
| 23:02.08 | SpeedEvil | And you are willing to see if it fits. |
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| 23:06.27 | javispedro | my n950 already has a small on the back scratch that was made with a grain of sugar =) |
| 23:07.15 | TSCHAKeee | hmmm, I have a flickable area, that has a content bit, has anyone made a flickable area scroll when a text field is selected that would normally be ccovered by the keyboard? |
| 23:12.33 | rZr | is going to release a video demo |
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| 23:16.30 | lardman | night all |
| 23:24.44 | javispedro | omg free nfc/bt headphones with the n9 in australia |
| 23:38.35 | DocScrutinizer51 | meh |
| 23:40.23 | Arkenoi | confirmed, n950 with xmpp lasts longer than n900, but do not expect a week on active standby. 2 days of moderate use is more likely |
| 23:41.55 | SpeedEvil | Who was looking for drawings of compasses? |
| 23:42.08 | SpeedEvil | http://i.imgur.com/WzJAr.jpg |
| 23:42.25 | SpeedEvil | compass rose from the parking map at University of Houston, apparently |
| 23:45.34 | rZr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.26 | Arkenoi | rumors say nokia spent $1B on maemo. having one of 300 phones that cost $3,3M per unit is truly royal gift :) |
