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| 08:18.45 | gri | MohammadAG: Are you around? |
| 08:19.08 | MohammadAG | yea |
| 08:19.33 | gri | I saw you tried around with notification catching, did you succeed? |
| 08:20.05 | djszapi | Last warning: please do not publish security risk |
| 08:20.59 | MohammadAG | notification catching? |
| 08:21.03 | djszapi | http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/led-event-notifier-nokia-n950-meego-harmattan/ |
| 08:21.06 | djszapi | like this |
| 08:21.11 | MohammadAG | knowing if there's a notification? |
| 08:21.22 | MohammadAG | I just listened to eventsAdded |
| 08:21.42 | MohammadAG | javispedro got notification count and such, his implementation's better than mine |
| 08:21.44 | gri | oh, there is eventsAdded? I just looked at the MNotificationManager header which didn't have this |
| 08:21.55 | MohammadAG | gri, dbus |
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| 08:22.10 | gri | ah, great :) |
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| 08:26.50 | gri | MohammadAG: On which dbus object? |
| 08:27.02 | gri | qdbus com.meego.core.MNotificationManager / | grep signal |
| 08:27.04 | gri | returns nothing |
| 08:27.28 | gri | erm on /notificationmanager |
| 08:28.49 | MohammadAG | gri, don't have my N950, but check the source code of led-event-notifier |
| 08:29.51 | MohammadAG | gitorious.org/harmattan-m6-utils |
| 08:30.22 | gri | MohammadAG: Hmm, you use the commhistory ... then this might not work for me :( |
| 08:31.15 | gri | I want to catch the "new sms" notification and change it's remote action - so I should take a look at javispedro's version |
| 08:31.15 | MohammadAG | gri, ask javispedro then :p |
| 08:33.42 | MohammadAG | why would you do that? |
| 08:34.08 | MohammadAG | and you can get the notificationid from commhistory |
| 08:34.21 | Arkenoi | do outgoing skype calls work for you on beta2? |
| 08:34.21 | gri | The commhistory-daemon fires the notifications and hard-links them to the messaging applicatino |
| 08:34.22 | djszapi | it did more times. |
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| 08:35.06 | gri | I want my application to pop up when the user clicks the notification and not the default messaging-ui :) |
| 08:35.15 | MohammadAG | Arkenoi, if you have the UI, yes |
| 08:37.05 | Arkenoi | MohammadAG, phone ui does not let you do. should i use peregrine for that? |
| 08:37.35 | Arkenoi | (or at least it does not let *me* do it) |
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| 10:26.00 | doomdog | Can anyone explain why this (http://pastebin.com/HagLX7Nd) happens? |
| 10:26.43 | MohammadAG | doomdog, because the package exists but is not on the server list you have |
| 10:26.46 | doomdog | I have user mc-tool, I can call/receive calls, Peregrine works, but I would like the native UI... |
| 10:28.17 | doomdog | Oh, is there an updated list somewhere? |
| 10:28.35 | MohammadAG | Nokia's internal list |
| 10:28.57 | doomdog | Thanks, Mohammad. |
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| 12:49.46 | alterego | wonders if they're going to fix TV out rotation. |
| 12:50.12 | DocScrutinizer | alterego: :-o |
| 12:50.16 | DocScrutinizer | WUT? |
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| 12:50.28 | DocScrutinizer | VSync borked? |
| 12:50.43 | alterego | No, the output is sideways |
| 12:50.50 | Stskeeps | of course? :P |
| 12:50.52 | DocScrutinizer | ROTFL |
| 12:51.15 | alterego | Needs to detect orientation and also rotate properly. |
| 12:51.26 | alterego | Worked on N900 |
| 12:51.31 | alterego | Works on Symbian :) |
| 12:51.41 | alterego | So I'm hoping they'll get around to it eventually. |
| 12:51.41 | DocScrutinizer | there are no 9:16 TV sets afaik |
| 12:52.01 | alterego | DocScrutinizer: I know, but it should display it the right way even if it's only 1/3rd centred. |
| 12:52.12 | alterego | Like Symbian and Maemo 5 does. |
| 12:52.16 | DocScrutinizer | haha |
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| 12:52.32 | DocScrutinizer | insane request |
| 12:52.40 | alterego | That's when the phone is in portrait, if the phone is _actually_ in landscape, then it doesn't need to rotate. |
| 12:53.02 | hiemanshu | alterego: just turn the TV around |
| 12:53.07 | alterego | hiemanshu: :P |
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| 12:53.36 | hiemanshu | alterego: or do what I do, keep the TV low, and lie down on your side :P |
| 12:53.44 | alterego | Hahah |
| 12:54.50 | alterego | Sure, I know why it's like it is, but it shouldn't be like this for usability. |
| 12:55.08 | alterego | Anyway, what I kinda want to do is be able to drive the video output separately. |
| 12:55.18 | alterego | Rendering a QML UX on both TV out and on screen. |
| 12:55.23 | alterego | But different windows. |
| 12:55.36 | DocScrutinizer | fails to see the "usability" aka usecase for a portrait display shrunk to 1/3 of the TV's screen size |
| 12:55.44 | DocScrutinizer | 1/4? |
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| 12:56.29 | DocScrutinizer | btw probably the GPU can't do that |
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| 12:56.33 | neal | If I install the harmattan scratchbox environment, will I still be able to use my maemo 5 targets? |
| 12:56.33 | alterego | DocScrutinizer: I was guessing, but basically using full height and centre aligning it. |
| 12:57.01 | alterego | Like all the other phones do ... |
| 12:57.07 | alterego | So my text is the right way round .. |
| 12:57.29 | DocScrutinizer | "all other phones" maybe got a portrait oriented main display |
| 12:58.11 | alterego | Yes, like Harmattan .. |
| 12:58.30 | DocScrutinizer | on N950 portrait still is rotation after all - I don't see how the GPU could do double rotation, once for main display, than rotate it back for TV fb |
| 12:58.33 | alterego | Or do you mean hardware oriented? Not like N900/N950/N9 |
| 12:58.57 | alterego | Meh |
| 12:59.15 | alterego | Then the answer must be proper landscape support in UI :P |
| 12:59.16 | DocScrutinizer | I'm talking about fb X, Y, scan-sequence in hw |
| 13:00.36 | DocScrutinizer | I guess the GPU can zoom to scale when copying from main to TV framebuffer, but probably it'll have a hard time to zoom AND ROTATE |
| 13:05.09 | DocScrutinizer | for the main display the scan sequence is: long side=X (aka HSync), short side = Y (aka VSync). This is a hw property of the LCD |
| 13:05.25 | DocScrutinizer | and TV out is just a scaled buffer of that |
| 13:05.36 | DocScrutinizer | s/buffer/copy/ |
| 13:06.46 | DocScrutinizer | so I guess little can be done to have a fullsize portrait display on device plus a 90° rotated TV-out |
| 13:07.46 | DocScrutinizer | as I'd think the GPU simply doesn't support that |
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| 13:09.18 | DocScrutinizer | you're free to study the omap3630 Technical Reference MAnual, section "video hardware", and find a way to implement it nevertheless |
| 13:10.42 | DocScrutinizer | after all I could be wrong and OMAP GPU can do it, just the devels never thought it would be useful to expose this capability to an API |
| 13:11.25 | alterego | Well, f that, still, want to drive the tv out separately with a separate QML context |
| 13:11.29 | alterego | ponders |
| 13:12.01 | alterego | Any insight into being able to do that? |
| 13:12.39 | alterego | (If it's possible) we don't have separate X display, and I think on the N900 it was only video that was ever displayed separately on TV out |
| 13:12.41 | DocScrutinizer | basically it *might* be possible, you "just" need to run two independent xservers |
| 13:13.20 | alterego | Hrm, shame we can't get a separate GLES context for rendering to that. |
| 13:13.56 | DocScrutinizer | maybe simply because there's only one GLES hw engine available? |
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| 13:14.46 | alterego | Hmmm |
| 13:15.18 | alterego | Could render off screen, but is it possible to blit to TV out separately? |
| 13:15.40 | DocScrutinizer | should work for all I gather, yes |
| 13:15.42 | alterego | Though that would be pretty expensive. |
| 13:15.55 | DocScrutinizer | too expensive for any decent framerate |
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| 15:20.03 | alterego | Who setup the harmattan obs? |
| 15:20.52 | w00t | isn't that just part of cobs? i.e. x-fade/lbt? |
| 15:21.51 | alterego | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I want to setup a local obs for harmattan, meego ce and maybe fremantle. |
| 15:22.08 | Arkenoi | no wmv playback in default player? huh.. |
| 15:22.47 | alterego | Arkenoi: nOTP? |
| 15:22.53 | alterego | N950\ |
| 15:22.56 | alterego | even .. |
| 15:44.15 | rZZZr | seems that nO has been delayed |
| 15:44.29 | rZZZr | there are no stocks in my |
| 15:44.37 | rZZZr | n9 no n0 |
| 15:44.47 | rZZZr | thick sucks |
| 15:44.54 | rZZZr | this sucks |
| 15:45.15 | rZZZr | sorry i use a slow ssh conn |
| 15:47.09 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, ietherpad was down last night. |
| 15:47.13 | w00t | rZZZr: mine arrives ~tomorrow |
| 15:48.47 | alterego | sighs |
| 15:48.54 | alterego | Wish I could get an N9 :P |
| 15:48.56 | MohammadAG | no N9 or N950 for me |
| 15:50.31 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: aah, that's why there's no mwkn? |
| 15:51.10 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, can't finish an issue if you can't get to it. |
| 15:51.56 | kkito | w00t: where did you order the n9? |
| 15:52.15 | w00t | kkito: direct from telenor |
| 15:53.55 | kkito | w00t: but is telenor shipping the n9 internationally? |
| 15:54.11 | w00t | I very much doubt it |
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| 16:01.41 | kkito | anyone knows where to order n9 in spain? |
| 16:10.29 | ieatlint | MohammadAG: don't you already have an n950? |
| 16:11.31 | MohammadAG | ieatlint, http://www.dhl.com/content/g0/en/express/tracking.shtml?brand=DHL&AWB=7894928462%0D%0A |
| 16:13.22 | rZZZr | w00t: where? |
| 16:13.57 | w00t | rZZZr: ? |
| 16:13.58 | rZZZr | north eu ? fi ? |
| 16:14.04 | w00t | norway |
| 16:14.31 | kkito | w00t: how much? |
| 16:14.40 | w00t | I don't remember |
| 16:15.52 | joejoe | hi everyone, is there relation between aegis and se linux? Is aegis some kind of wrapper over se linux? or it is aegis something completely different? |
| 16:16.16 | ieatlint | i wish i could make large purchases and quickly forget how much i paid :P |
| 16:16.47 | ieatlint | joejoe: completely different |
| 16:19.48 | ieatlint | MohammadAG: so you mailed back your n950, but what, they aren't sending you a replacement? |
| 16:20.12 | MohammadAG | ieatlint, not till it reaches them |
| 16:20.18 | MohammadAG | which seems to be quite some time from now |
| 16:20.23 | kkito | It seems that is easer to get the n9 for free than paying for it. thats weird. |
| 16:20.42 | MohammadAG | yay |
| 16:20.52 | MohammadAG | Ovi Store is now called Nokia Store, at least on Symbian |
| 16:21.10 | ieatlint | i'll take a free n9 |
| 16:23.38 | wmarone_ | free n9? where? |
| 16:23.54 | wmarone_ | looks around suspiciously |
| 16:24.21 | ieatlint | just email steven.elop@nokia.com and ask |
| 16:24.28 | rZZZr | twitter/rzrfreefr |
| 16:26.50 | rZZZr | i just fwd an annouce |
| 16:30.27 | ieatlint | mondays displease me. i stood at a train station this morning for 15min staring at an led sign with the time and date... before realizing it was telling me today is January 4, 2000 |
| 16:31.39 | berndhs | that's a sunday |
| 16:31.40 | wmarone_ | welcome to the time warp |
| 16:32.23 | berndhs | wait no, tuesday |
| 16:32.30 | ieatlint | it's all happening again |
| 16:33.13 | ieatlint | i also then realized that the n950 has no real exposure controls |
| 16:33.16 | berndhs | can you change it this time ? |
| 16:33.35 | ieatlint | tried to get a picture, but the refresh rate of the sign was too slow |
| 16:34.00 | ieatlint | berndhs: sure, the election you're thinking of isn't for another 11 months |
| 16:34.02 | ieatlint | there's time. |
| 16:34.25 | ieatlint | also, i better go sell that yahoo stock |
| 16:34.53 | berndhs | you want to unload the Nortel while it's worth more than empty beer bottles too |
| 16:36.33 | ieatlint | :P |
| 16:43.07 | RST38h | evening, gentlemen |
| 16:43.43 | SpeedEvil | ieatlint: have you tried the camera thingy? |
| 16:47.23 | SpeedEvil | by that I mean camerapro |
| 16:47.36 | SpeedEvil | Which is strangey not working anymore |
| 16:50.46 | SpeedEvil | Hmm |
| 16:50.54 | alterego | Never worked for me SpeedEvil |
| 16:50.55 | SpeedEvil | Seemingly not very flexible at all |
| 16:51.05 | SpeedEvil | It works now after I rebooted |
| 16:51.14 | SpeedEvil | It does have more fetures than the stock one |
| 16:51.36 | SpeedEvil | But... |
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| 17:49.31 | rZZZr | can u confirm there is no xmpp support on n9 ? |
| 17:49.56 | RST38h | there IS google integration |
| 17:50.03 | RST38h | does it pass for xmpp support? |
| 17:51.55 | rZZZr | i am talking about the protocol not the webservice |
| 17:52.28 | rZZZr | google does not support gateways to irc, msn etc |
| 17:52.48 | rZZZr | i fell this is a MAJOR regression |
| 17:53.05 | rZZZr | ill keep using n810 for that |
| 17:53.40 | frals | telepathy gabble works fine for xmpp |
| 17:53.47 | frals | thats what im using anyway |
| 17:54.42 | rZZZr | on which firmware ? |
| 18:05.35 | frals | 34-1 |
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| 18:10.58 | djszapi | rZZZr: we cannot confirm that anymore, nda. |
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| 18:11.45 | rZZZr | how many no owners here ? |
| 18:11.52 | rZZZr | n9 |
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| 18:17.06 | DocScrutinizer | ?? |
| 18:19.22 | DocScrutinizer | aaah n9-owners, not n9 no-owners |
| 18:19.54 | mja | where is it available? |
| 18:20.10 | DocScrutinizer | in the future :-D |
| 18:20.22 | rZZZr | all are in mr elop cave ? |
| 18:25.15 | djszapi | rZZZr: more useful question, why are there missing packages in the community repository ? |
| 18:25.25 | djszapi | which actually were there previously ? |
| 18:26.34 | djszapi | for instance the alure packages and the gluon packages. |
| 18:28.57 | rZZZr | djszapi: i removed readline |
| 18:29.13 | rZZZr | djszapi: RST38h asked to |
| 18:29.28 | rZZZr | check with him or wait a week more |
| 18:30.19 | RST38h | readline conflicts with a package from Nokia's own repository |
| 18:30.28 | RST38h | dunno about the rest |
| 18:31.04 | djszapi | That is fine. I was just wondering about that Gluon and its dependency is not there anymore. |
| 18:31.17 | djszapi | rZZZr: any ideas how those could get away ? |
| 18:32.24 | rZZZr | i only rmed readline |
| 18:32.44 | rZZZr | investigate on other fools |
| 18:36.39 | mzanetti | I'm trying to install qoauth but aegis is rejecting it. could anyone help me? |
| 18:36.43 | mzanetti | Aegis rejecting /home/developer/qoauth_0.0.1_armel.deb: usr/lib/libqoauth.so.1.0.1 not installed by the package |
| 18:37.24 | djszapi | Can you share the package for investigation ? |
| 18:38.17 | mzanetti | djszapi: sure. wait a sec, I'll upload it |
| 18:38.40 | djszapi | mzanetti: I do not have N950, but I can check it at least with N9 |
| 18:38.51 | djszapi | mmm, actually this time I also have N950 :p |
| 18:39.56 | mzanetti | http://follefuder.org/qoauth_0.0.1_armel.deb |
| 18:40.41 | mzanetti | I'm still a aegis noob... didn't have any problems with it so far and for thus didn't really learn yet how it works in depth |
| 18:41.47 | djszapi | mzanetti: btw, I think I resign from the KDE Harmattan sprint organization after the news recently |
| 18:42.05 | mzanetti | which news? |
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| 18:42.39 | djszapi | mer and the financial situations around |
| 18:43.11 | mzanetti | ah, ok... |
| 18:45.31 | djszapi | mzanetti: I have technical problems here, but can you paste the full output from prompt to prompt please ? Also the relevant syslog entries ? |
| 18:46.00 | djszapi | (if any) |
| 18:47.48 | mzanetti | djszapi: thats really all that it spits out... only the above message and then "aegis aborting dpkg -- all listed package files rejected" |
| 18:48.02 | mzanetti | nothing really useful |
| 18:48.10 | djszapi | please post it ;) |
| 18:49.08 | GeneralAntilles | Does anybody else find it scary that the N9 is apparently shipping with a firmware with a similar week number to the N950 firmware? |
| 18:49.19 | macmaN | a little bit |
| 18:49.24 | macmaN | what is the number? |
| 18:49.25 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, me too. |
| 18:49.34 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/nokia-n9-product-codes-firmware/ |
| 18:49.42 | mzanetti | djszapi: http://pastebin.com/hQvsyTDX |
| 18:49.54 | GeneralAntilles | V1.2011.34-2_PR-RM680 vs V10.2011.34-1_PR-RM696 |
| 18:50.18 | djszapi | GeneralAntilles: it is normal |
| 18:50.46 | hiemanshu | 34-1 has more stuff than 34-2 |
| 18:51.01 | GeneralAntilles | Yea! More bugs, too, I'm sure. |
| 18:51.07 | djszapi | yes, but not relevant to the version. |
| 18:51.33 | macmaN | i was rather hoping that n9 had something newer so n950 would get something |
| 18:51.43 | hiemanshu | yeah |
| 18:51.51 | GeneralAntilles | The N950 is really hopeless right now. |
| 18:51.53 | GeneralAntilles | Er |
| 18:51.56 | hiemanshu | but some sources say there might be a newer firmware |
| 18:51.56 | GeneralAntilles | The software |
| 18:52.03 | hiemanshu | soon-ish |
| 18:52.04 | djszapi | mzanetti: interesting, there is nothing in the syslog either |
| 18:52.07 | macmaN | define hopeless? |
| 18:52.21 | djszapi | GeneralAntilles: I am not sure there will be any man power to make a new firmware for that device :p |
| 18:52.35 | GeneralAntilles | djszapi, meh. |
| 18:52.53 | mzanetti | djszapi: nope :( |
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| 18:53.42 | djszapi | mzanetti: I can install it in scratchbox though |
| 18:54.03 | djszapi | mzanetti: can you send the build output, please ? |
| 18:54.21 | djszapi | and the debian/*.install file. |
| 18:54.27 | djszapi | (if any) |
| 18:57.11 | djszapi | same on N9, very odd |
| 18:57.35 | djszapi | Could you please send me the source and the debian folder ? |
| 18:57.46 | mzanetti | djszapi: build and deploy steps: http://pastebin.com/zDdhNp3R |
| 18:58.43 | mzanetti | djszapi: this is the original code: https://github.com/ayoy/qoauth/wiki/ |
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| 18:59.38 | mzanetti | the qtc_packaging folder is auto-generated by qtcreator |
| 18:59.48 | mzanetti | I can pack everything up if you want |
| 19:00.04 | RST38h | Meanowhile: October 14 declared 'Steve Jobs Day' |
| 19:00.44 | djszapi | yes, please. |
| 19:00.55 | mzanetti | http://follefuder.org/qoauth_harmattan.tar.gz |
| 19:01.19 | hiemanshu | RST38h: and why? |
| 19:01.26 | hiemanshu | is he gonna die then? |
| 19:02.39 | RST38h | hiemanshu: apparently he is going to announce iphone5 |
| 19:02.51 | djszapi | mzanetti: qtcreator is a funky boy, empty manifest.aegis |
| 19:02.52 | RST38h | hieanmanshu: I do not think any of these folks would notice if he died |
| 19:02.57 | hiemanshu | RST38h: thats tomorrow |
| 19:02.59 | hiemanshu | the 4th |
| 19:03.04 | RST38h | dunno then |
| 19:04.07 | djszapi | mzanetti: the rules file is broken here. |
| 19:05.19 | djszapi | the control file is also funny created by the qtcreator :)) |
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| 19:07.03 | djszapi | mzanetti: I do not know, but qtcreator messes up the things |
| 19:07.08 | mzanetti | djszapi: yeah... as I said. the whole qtc_packaginf stuff is auto-generated... |
| 19:07.20 | mzanetti | always worked fine so far |
| 19:07.36 | djszapi | this rules file does not run the "qmake" command. |
| 19:07.51 | djszapi | I guess that is coded into qtcreator, so will work nowhere else |
| 19:08.04 | djszapi | (please report a bug against them) |
| 19:08.10 | djszapi | secondly, there is a compilation issue |
| 19:08.28 | djszapi | http://paste.kde.org/129871/ |
| 19:09.29 | mzanetti | djszapi: I have installed the qca2-dev package which I found on harmattan-dev.nokia.com |
| 19:09.41 | djszapi | okay, so missing dependency in the control file. |
| 19:09.44 | mzanetti | with that it compiles fine |
| 19:09.47 | djszapi | missing dependency management* |
| 19:10.03 | mzanetti | yeah... sure... but that shouldn't cause this error... |
| 19:10.28 | djszapi | well, we cannot start with the Xth error, if there are many before that ;) |
| 19:11.16 | djszapi | you probably meant libqca2-dev |
| 19:11.35 | mzanetti | djszapi: yes |
| 19:12.59 | mzanetti | libqca2 is already installed on the device. I installed libqca2-dev into the madde env and it compiles fine. If you did a clean checkout from the repo, also disable the "tests" subdir in the .pro file. |
| 19:13.27 | mzanetti | thats all I changed so far. then I ran into the aegis error |
| 19:14.05 | djszapi | okay, works here. |
| 19:14.11 | djszapi | if I build the package in scratchbox. |
| 19:14.21 | djszapi | so please report at least 2 bugs against QtCreator. |
| 19:16.09 | djszapi | http://sprend.com/download.jsp?FileId=DCkkDgvynqbhnpMJFnkp |
| 19:16.19 | djszapi | try to download my debian |
| 19:16.27 | djszapi | All I did is I rebuilt it in scratchbox. |
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| 19:18.35 | mzanetti | djszapi: moment... on the phone... |
| 19:24.42 | mzanetti | djszapi: awesome. your package works fine! |
| 19:25.19 | djszapi | I can upload to OBS if you want me to. |
| 19:25.29 | mzanetti | djszapi: that would be really cool |
| 19:25.42 | mzanetti | what exactly is now different in your build? |
| 19:25.58 | djszapi | nothing |
| 19:26.11 | djszapi | you use QtCreator, I use scratchbox |
| 19:26.53 | mzanetti | weird stuff... ok. I'll try to gather some more information on what's going wrong and report the bug[s] |
| 19:27.20 | mzanetti | thanks a lot |
| 19:27.49 | djszapi | 113-116 is the culsprit in your build log |
| 19:28.02 | djszapi | I do not have those. |
| 19:28.25 | djszapi | dh_gencontrol is immediately after dpkg-shlibdeps here: # dh_shlibdeps # Uncomment this line for use without Qt Creator |
| 19:28.29 | djszapi | dh_gencontrol |
| 19:29.07 | djszapi | GCC_3_5 :) |
| 19:29.58 | djszapi | those lines must be the culsprit since if you take a look at your installation error, that is exactly about that library file. |
| 19:30.26 | djszapi | and those lines I do not have here, but everything else during the build procedure. |
| 19:31.31 | mzanetti | djszapi: yes, I already feared them a bit... but I couldn't really associate them with an aegis error |
| 19:31.52 | djszapi | compare the data.tar.gz |
| 19:32.01 | djszapi | and the control.tar.gz between my version and your. |
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| 19:36.59 | mzanetti | djszapi: ok... I see... |
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| 19:38.18 | khertan | just see the UPGRADE in the topic |
| 19:38.28 | khertan | :( too bad i think there was a new firmware |
| 19:39.00 | khertan | but in fact no, just a warning to those still using prebeta 2 to do not update with older fw |
| 19:40.13 | rm_work | yeah i already updated a couple, and then realized <_< |
| 19:40.33 | rm_work | i need to reflash but am avoiding it because apparently it is somewhat tricky to properly back up stuff |
| 19:40.34 | rm_work | >_> |
| 19:40.44 | rm_work | and i have not had a free day where i don't NEED my phone working |
| 19:40.52 | khertan | it s not tricky ... it s just don't works :) |
| 19:41.16 | khertan | in fact to backup contact the best way is to sync with an n900 |
| 19:41.35 | RST38h | rm_work: moo |
| 19:41.58 | RST38h | rm_work: care to upload the latest files from http://fms.komkon.org/EmuMeego/ to the repo? =) |
| 19:42.16 | rm_work | RST38h: did you not get my note? :P |
| 19:42.31 | rm_work | i have a cron job that automatically spiders that directory and updates them |
| 19:42.34 | rm_work | every day |
| 19:42.41 | rm_work | and also updates Packrat |
| 19:42.46 | RST38h | rm_work: Got it, but after about 8+ hours :) |
| 19:42.49 | rm_work | packrat updates every 4 hours as well |
| 19:42.50 | RST38h | rm_work: Cooool |
| 19:42.57 | rm_work | finally got around to it |
| 19:43.16 | rm_work | i can kick it off now if you don't want to wait another ... 10 hours :P |
| 19:43.23 | rm_work | till it does it automatically |
| 19:43.41 | rm_work | did you check packrat to see which version it has already? |
| 19:43.47 | RST38h | Nah, I am ok - those files have been there for longer than 10 hours |
| 19:43.49 | RST38h | A moment |
| 19:43.52 | rm_work | k |
| 19:44.02 | rm_work | it will technically grab any .deb you put there |
| 19:44.16 | RST38h | the version is fine now |
| 19:44.24 | rm_work | k :) good to know it's working |
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| 21:05.11 | neal | what's the equivalent of a Maemo 5 .install for Harmattan? |
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| 21:13.34 | rm_work | neal: AFAIK they don't have one or the ability to do anything similar :( |
| 21:13.37 | rm_work | if you find out, let me know |
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| 21:16.16 | neal | rm_work: Oh :/ |
| 21:16.32 | neal | rm_work: What's the right way to publish packages? |
| 21:16.47 | rm_work | :/ |
| 21:16.50 | rm_work | the "right way"? :P |
| 21:16.51 | rm_work | lol |
| 21:17.01 | rm_work | well, i think supposedly, into a PPA through meego OBS |
| 21:17.09 | neal | s/right/recommended/ |
| 21:17.25 | rm_work | yeah, recommended is by using OBS |
| 21:17.58 | rm_work | what I do is just make my debs in scratchbox ALA Fremantle, and then publish them to the "public community repository" that I started |
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| 21:18.03 | rm_work | which is indexed by Packrat |
| 21:18.07 | rm_work | ~packrat |
| 21:18.07 | infobot | well, packrat is a cute little rodent that keeps everything it finds. http://www.ageofikon.com/prh/ |
| 21:18.35 | rm_work | also, you can publish to the OVI store |
| 21:18.45 | rm_work | some people have opted to do some combination of the three |
| 21:19.18 | rm_work | brb |
| 21:20.27 | neal | rm_work: If I can create binaries and publish them in a debian repository that I control, how does a user add the repository? |
| 21:31.24 | rantom | Someone downloaded the quicklaunch? |
| 21:31.45 | rantom | s/quicklaunch/shortcuts |
| 21:31.59 | rantom | http://projects.developer.nokia.com/shortcuts |
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| 22:33.40 | DocScrutinizer | neal: rm_you: isn't the harmattan way of .install simply called OVI-store? |
| 22:34.40 | DocScrutinizer | aah, too late, rm_you already mentioned that |
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| 22:35.56 | rm_work | neal: i don't think it is possible to add repositories automatically. you NEED to manually edit the apt sources file |
| 22:36.07 | rm_work | neal: but if you figure out a way, let me know |
| 22:36.24 | rm_work | neal: that's part of why we are trying to limit the number of repositories |
| 22:36.32 | DocScrutinizer | plus that's of course "unknown_source" |
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| 22:36.36 | rm_work | if there's one "main" community repo, it becomes less of an issue |
| 22:37.19 | rm_work | yes |
| 22:37.22 | rm_work | bbl |
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