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03:03.32TSCHAKeeeif anyone finds a good place to buy a black 64GB Nokia N9 either in the US or can be shipped to the US, let me know.
03:03.36TSCHAKeeeplease.
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03:20.14ScifigDid anyone link gconf-2.0 library in their Qt application AND successfully build for harmattan  using Qt creator(Madde)?
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06:31.45matrixxartemma: I bought and gave a review :)
06:32.00artemmahey, thankx a lot, matrixx !!
06:32.08artemmais opening ovi store
06:32.47artemmacool! Now I have the top seller in N9 business apps with to reviews!
06:32.52artemma:)
06:34.07artemmaI wonder if it will translate into actual money. So far there were no real sales and 90% if not 100% of buyers are developers. Hopefully their interests are at least a little in line with the general public
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07:44.37hiemanshuVenemo_webchat: hey
07:44.47hiemanshuVenemo_webchat: you pinged me? I was out on vacation in dubai
07:45.02Venemo_webchathey hiemanshu. I pinged you a few days ago yes
07:45.33hiemanshuI was outta the country on vacation, didn't bother enough to take my laptop and IRC from there
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08:15.35melle_Hi all, N9 user question: is it possible to list birthdays in your calendar?
08:19.05lardman|gonemorning all
08:19.25tommamelle_, it does list them by default
08:20.07melle_tomma: hmm, not in my n9? :) I know some contacts have birthdays defined, they're correctly exported from my N900
08:21.31melle_tomma: In the N900 there was an option called sth like special or smart calendar which displayed the birthdays, but i can't seem to find it on the N9
08:22.08lardman|gonedoes the N9 set an alarm at midnight to remind you that it's someone's birthday...?
08:22.19lardman|goneas my N950 does, and it's bloody annoying
08:24.48melle_lardman|gone: dunno, i guess i have to wait a few days. I'd consider that a UX-design flaw ;)
08:26.12lardman|goneWell something to do with the import process more likely, setting alarms for birthdays automatically
08:27.29melle_lardman|gone: When I tap on a birthday from one of my contacts it switches directly to the correct day in calendar... which is empty at that day...
08:27.41lardman|gonehmm
08:31.23fralsyeah it doesnt import contacts bday to calendar automatically
08:31.36fralslardman|gone probably imported his n900 calendar which did that
08:33.51melle_frals: Hmm, i guess that's my problem... Importing my calendar failed as well... for some reason the calendar is marked 'local' on my n900 and I could not select it as a source... (I had multiple calendars on my n900)
08:35.56melle_frals: Pherhaps it'd be best to mess around on my N900 and copy the calendar to a new one, does anyone know which files I should touch for that?
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09:06.41melle_Is it possible to import ics files in your N9?
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11:15.40pinheiro_another silly question :D if one as an app runnig on the device-via qt creator  and wants to make a deba pacage out of it what is the best way to go?
11:15.45pinheiro_deb
11:16.38eg81Why apt-get wants to remove 476 packages, when I just want to install coreutils? that's weird
11:16.51Stskeepsharmattan doesn't use coreutils
11:18.41eg81ok so then from where get sha256sum which is required by dpkg-source ?
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11:18.56Stskeepsis that on device? :P
11:19.22eg81no :)
11:19.28Stskeepserr
11:19.28Stskeeps:P
11:19.35eg81weird..
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11:23.44xarcasspinheiro_: if you've managed to run an app from the qtcreator, then you already have a debian package with this app in your project's build directory
11:24.30pinheiro_xarcass:  just realixed that :D
11:24.33pinheiro_realized
11:24.41pinheiro_thanks :D
11:26.49pinheiro_humm dough i cant find it xarcass
11:27.27hiemanshupinheiro_: probably in <appname>-build-* dir?
11:28.35xarcasspinheiro_: that depends on project settings. I'm lazy, so i use 'find' in such cases
11:28.54pinheiro_there is a qml directory a qmlaplicationviwer  and a qtc_packging
11:29.04pinheiro_no build directory
11:30.42pinheiro_never mind
11:30.43pinheiro_:D
11:30.47pinheiro_me stupid
11:30.49pinheiro_:D
11:30.55xarcasson the side bar of creator there is a 'tab' that is called "Project"
11:31.26pinheiro_yeap and in there the link to were its build :D
11:31.32pinheiro_me very stupid
11:34.01pinheiro_ok now for a real question :D me not very smartly (again) wen creting the project did not filled in any of the relevant data such as icon my name the name of te app etc is there a way to fill in that data noa?
11:34.03pinheiro_now
11:34.54mjacheck the .desktop-file
11:35.06mjathe Project tab can also help you
11:35.35mjathere are two icons required, one for the desktop and another for installer
11:35.54pinheiro_those i chaged in the source
11:35.55mjausually the desktop icon is myproject80.png
11:36.07pinheiro_also the app name
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11:36.24mjathe installer icon is not in an image file but encoded in one of the debian files
11:37.10pinheiro_but was wondering if there was a way to go back and redo the missed stepps
11:37.33pinheiro_untitteled9 is realy a lame name for the app
11:37.37pinheiro_:)
11:38.01mjastart a new project and bring along the old stuff?
11:38.10pinheiro_yeap :D
11:38.31mja30min job, time well spent :)
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12:41.27djszapi~seen wazd
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12:42.20Stskeepsa little less than that, he was online yesterday
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12:57.57dm8tbranyone know if BT HID is supposed to work on harmattan?
12:58.36dm8tbrI successfully paired and connected a SU-8W but there's nothing happening
13:00.04dm8tbrw0000h0000, it works in terminal at least
13:00.27griSU-8W is not a russian plane?
13:00.55dm8tbrfsck!
13:01.04dm8tbrno it's a nokia bt keyboard
13:01.26dm8tbrthe problem is: it only works if the hw kbd on my n950 is unfolded!
13:01.48dm8tbrthat's a stupid bug
13:02.00dm8tbrI wonder if there is anything I can do about that as a user
13:03.57Arkenoino one ever commented on devel-sh not running arbitrary binaries anymore, is there a known fix?
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13:34.07griKhertan, are you here?
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13:42.45Khertangri: Hi
13:42.53Khertangri: a bit busy but i'm here
13:42.54Khertan:)
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13:43.23griKhertan, You did your editor using qml as I remember
13:43.46griKhertan, What did you use for that? Widgets? Rendering of QTextDocument?
13:44.30griI'm currently figuring out what would be the easiest way to show emoticons or text blocks inside of a TextField in qml
13:45.58Khertanyep i use a QGraphicProxyWidget
13:46.19Khertani put a QPlainTextEdit in ...
13:46.50Arkenoi"Wallet" sucks
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13:47.04Khertangri: http://gitorious.org/khteditor/khteditor/blobs/qml/khteditor/qmleditor.py
13:47.08gridoes this work well with the virtual keyboard and hw keyboard open/close?
13:47.20Khertangri: yep it s works
13:47.23Arkenoihuge annoying picture of bank card and it keeps thinking everything i enter is bank account
13:47.45Khertanthere is some glitch sometimes anyway, specially with rotation
13:48.27Khertanthe virtual keyboard stay in portrait while the display is in landscape
13:48.39grioh :/
13:48.47Khertanbut this seems to happen only on the symbol keyboard
13:49.11Khertanand i think it s more related with my implementation of the resize
13:49.23Khertanof the textedit
13:49.28Khertanqtextedit
13:49.46Khertanas when i ve down little test, i got no problem
13:50.06grihmm ok, I'll give it a try then
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14:26.21merlin1991hm how would I sync sms from n900 -> n9, contacts work directly via bluetooth
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14:31.57juergbimerlin1991: http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#Conversations
14:32.17merlin1991thanks
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15:00.50TSCHAKeeeis mad that Skype video calling is not supported on the N9 :'(
15:01.56Corsacis jabber video calling supported?
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15:05.52TSCHAKeeeCorsac: who the hell uses that?
15:06.03TSCHAKeee(and yes, I am aware Jabber is XMPP)
15:06.12w00tanyone on google plus hangouts, i'd think
15:06.33TSCHAKeeeagain, i am aware that google uses it
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15:06.37TSCHAKeeebut i have yet to see anyone actually use it
15:06.50dm8tbruses xmpp a lot
15:06.56w00thangouts are where you actually see it used quite a bit
15:07.04TSCHAKeeei swear, do all of you just live in this magic bubble
15:07.10TSCHAKeeewhere nobody uses proprietary software?
15:07.23w00tI didn't say I don't use anything else
15:07.29w00tI explained where I use it, and where I see it used
15:07.30Venemo_webchatTSCHAKeee: nope, unfortunately I gotta use a lot of properitary shit.
15:07.44TSCHAKeeesorry for being short.
15:07.51dm8tbrhas a nice set of transports for jabber and unified his complete IM experience into one jabber account :)
15:07.56TSCHAKeeethe regression from the N900 in this regard is one of those WTF moments
15:08.34CorsacTSCHAKeee: I think I would if it wouldn't use proprietary codecs on fremantle
15:08.42TSCHAKeeeif I could get my fiancee to download an app for the iphone that could do google talk with video
15:08.42radiofreeTSCHAKeee: I try to limit the use of "proprietary shit" as much as possible, but unfortunately I still have to use skype
15:08.53radiofreevoice is fine for me, but i agree, no video call is bad
15:09.01TSCHAKeeethen I wouldn't feel so bent out of shape
15:14.08Venemo_webchatTSCHAKeee: why can't you get your fiancee to do it?
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15:14.26TSCHAKeeeVenemo_webchat: trying to find something that works.
15:15.11Venemo_webchatTSCHAKeee: mhmm
15:15.35Venemo_webchatideapad feels depleted, so I must leave soon.
15:16.32Venemo_webchathave a nice day guys!
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16:46.58Venemo_N900heya.
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17:12.20GeneralAntillesUseless.
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17:22.08javispedrowho or what is uselesss.
17:28.24fiferboyMe?
17:28.27MohammadAGfucking customs haven't cleared my N950
17:28.40MohammadAGwon't get it for 10 days :/
17:28.43MohammadAGI hate holidays
17:30.04grialso wants holidays
17:38.44ieatlinti had one yesterday, and i don't feel refreshed this morning :(
17:39.47javispedrohas one tomorrow and plans to spend it sleeping
17:41.40ieatlinti ruined that plan by staying up late sunday night, and then getting 7h of sleep, before waking up and realizing that if i kept sleeping i wouldn't be able to go to bed at a reasonable hour.  thus, success in resting
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22:12.12faenilhi everyone :)
22:12.26faenilis there any smart way to backup/restore contacts on n950?
22:12.32faenilbetter with an online service..
22:13.44rcg2well the smart way starts by not using the built in backup feature
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22:15.02faenilheard about that :)
22:15.12faenilis there any way I can sync to google contacts or something like that?
22:16.04ajalkanei synced to google contacts, worked fine
22:16.31faenilhow?
22:16.51ajalkaneI use MfE for syncing to google calendar and contacts
22:18.05ajalkaneservet address m.google.com and yoi"re good to go
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22:18.39faenil_got disconnected...
22:18.43faenil_did you write anything else?
22:19.57ajalkanesecure connection, domain is empty
22:20.33faenil_ok..never used mfe :)
22:22.10ajalkanethe login username might have to be full google e-mail, don't remember
22:24.01ajalkanegoes sleeping
22:30.39faenil_ajalkane: thanks
22:42.02faenil_what about Nokia Link? has anyone ever used it on the n950?
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23:16.36faenil_I can't get beyond phonet...
23:16.39faenil_is anyone online?
23:16.49faenil_it flashes ape, and then disconnects
23:16.49faenil_..
23:19.07SpeedEvilOnline, but no clue
23:19.45SpeedEvilI vaguely remember for one attempt, I had to make it not able to load a module on te PC
23:20.38faenil_mmm
23:21.13DocScrutinizermodprobe -r ehci_hcd
23:21.18DocScrutinizeror sth like that
23:21.27faenil_using windows...
23:21.38DocScrutinizermodprobe -r cdc_phonet as well
23:21.47DocScrutinizererrr, NFC then
23:22.39faenil_but I'll probably boot ubuntu if I can't solve this problem in the next 5 mins..
23:24.09DocScrutinizerthough I guess the root cause is the same, I can't tell how to work around it on err what's it caled? windoze
23:24.56faenil_xD
23:25.14faenil_so what's the problem in your opinion
23:25.33DocScrutinizerthe ehci USB2.0 driver
23:25.53DocScrutinizeror the phonet driver that comes with nokia suite on windoof
23:27.09DocScrutinizerboth are known to (sometimes) interfere with flashing
23:27.38DocScrutinizerbut I have not the slightest idea how to do a modprobe -r on windoze
23:27.51DocScrutinizerI.E. how to unload a driver
23:28.49DocScrutinizerotoh the phonet driver probably is mandatory on win when flashing with nokia suite or whatever that's called
23:28.51faenil_that's a bit tricky...win keeps saving the most updated driver somewhere
23:29.19faenil_I have Nokia Connectivity cable drivers installed...those that come with the flasher
23:29.39faenil_I think I'd better switch to ubuntu
23:29.41faenil_brb
23:29.49DocScrutinizerI suggest you ignore my random noise, as I got no idea about win anyway
23:30.03faenil_;)
23:30.07faenil_better try on ubunut
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23:36.24faenilback on ubuntu
23:36.30faenilanybody got linux flasher package?
23:38.51faenilDocScrutinizer: is Flasher 3.5 okay ?
23:40.01DocScrutinizererr, dunno. I got flasher from expanded one-click-flasher file, and I suggest to use one-click-flasher anyway
23:40.16faenilokay...how can I expand it?
23:40.36faenildownloading oneclick flasher
23:41.27DocScrutinizerfor expanding see http://maemo.cloud-7.de/950/myimages/ - but I guess you don't want to do that
23:42.02faenilwant to try flashing without oneclick :)
23:42.13faenilshouldn't be hard...it's oneline command..
23:42.32DocScrutinizer(extract-OCF.sh there, and the extracted 22-6 and 34-2 OCF in the corresponding subdirs)
23:42.49faenilokay downloaded flasher.bin from the extracted 22-6
23:44.44DocScrutinizerdunno if tha one works for beta2 aka 34-2 at all
23:45.08DocScrutinizeryou'll see
23:45.11faenilok...
23:45.23faenildoes the flasher work on 64bit os?
23:45.51DocScrutinizerdunno
23:46.01DocScrutinizer34-2 has a 64bit version
23:46.41DocScrutinizerflasher_amd64.tar.gz
23:47.41faenilyeah there's the bin too
23:50.03faenilwhat about drivers? is everything already installed on ubuntu?
23:52.44faenilokay same problem on ubuntu...stops at phonet, after phonet/bootloader
23:52.59faenilafter bootloader/phonet
23:54.27DocScrutinizerlsmod|grep hci
23:54.46DocScrutinizermodprobe -r ehaci_hcd (check spelling!)
23:55.57faenilahci and libahci
23:56.28DocScrutinizerhttp://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2011-10-07.log.html#t2011-10-07T14:44:56
23:57.47faenilFATAL: module is builtin

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