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00:11.28DocScrutinizerinitctl status ssh
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01:33.06dr_drshHi
01:34.23dr_drshI'm getting seg fault when I attempt to run this
01:34.25dr_drshdrive-qml "geo:30.051177,31.232672?action=driveTo"
01:36.05dr_drshI'm running haramattan 1.201134-2_PR_RM680
01:39.24dr_drshFixed!, this is caused by running drive-qml with the device in mass storage mode
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04:01.18wmarone_boggles at the expansys-usa prices for the N9
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04:04.40ieatlintwmarone_: looks about right
04:05.01ieatlinti found an aussie store that was a little cheaper, but foreign currency fees would probably make the difference
04:09.12ieatlintfor thought though, http://www.personaldigital.com.au/p1720/Nokia-N9-64GB-(SIM-Free/Unlocked)-Australian-Stock/buy.html#axzz1b6RRYf5g ... $726.36AUD ($740USD) + around $45 shipping and likely a 3-4% foreign currency fee
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07:17.54mecewhat's the command for starting/stopping sshd?
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07:47.41meceAnyone?
07:48.11mecetried /usr/invoke-rc.d ssh stop but that seems to have no effect on it.
07:54.22ieatlint/etc/init/ssh.conf is what causes it to start
07:54.22tabaskohmm, I would like to know this as well
07:54.27ieatlintthere might not be more to it than killing the process
07:55.00tabaskobtw, is it safe to change root's password?
07:55.20ieatlintyes, and highly encouraged
07:55.30ieatlintlest you want anyone ssh'ing into your phone as root
07:55.56tabaskogood, phone feels so dirty with default passwd
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07:59.06mecehehe indeed.
07:59.39meceanyway I need sshd open over 3g, which means I also want to shut it down when I don't use it...
07:59.47mecechanging the port might be a good idea tho.
07:59.58mecea bit of security by obscurity
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08:00.28Stskeepsssh is filtered over 3g afaik
08:00.35Stskeepssshd,  that is
08:00.51ieatlintregardless, many of us connect to wifi routinely
08:01.11ieatlinterr, i misread, need to have read up more first :)
08:01.23meceStskeeps, by who?
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08:01.39Stskeepsmece: by fefault setting
08:01.50meceStskeeps, yeah. I changed that tho.
08:02.15ieatlintyes, /etc/ssh/sshd_config is set to only allow connections from 127.0.0.0/8, and the iana internal network reserved ranges
08:03.20meceso killing the process does not help
08:03.23meceany other ideas?
08:04.23ieatlintwatchdog respawns it?
08:04.33meceno idea. something does
08:05.08ieatlintwell there's always the method of toggling developer mode on/off
08:05.23fralsmece: 'stop ssh'?
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08:06.18ieatlintlooks like frals knows what he's talking about, oddly
08:06.24mecefrals, wtf?
08:06.52ieatlint/sbin/stop, that is
08:06.56mececrazy!
08:07.00mecefrals, thanks :D
08:07.05fralsmece: np
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08:09.35mecefrals, got a good idea how I allow connection over 3g?
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08:10.51tabaskohow I can find out my ip? There is no ifconfig? :o
08:10.57mece/sbin/ifconfig
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08:11.21tabaskoyeah, should have triend to run find before asking stupid
08:11.22fralsmece: disable the iptables line in /etc/network/if-up.d/
08:11.48frals<PROTECTED>
08:12.12fralsor just chmod -x the file, hopefully aegis doesnt protect it :D
08:12.15frals"protect"
08:13.00mecegah so i might brick the fracking thing by doing this?
08:13.26fralsuh
08:13.29fralsdont modify the file
08:13.32frals:D
08:13.43fralscat /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist|grep drop_gprs
08:14.17fralsi wonder if aegis cares if the permissions change
08:15.01fralsid try it, but im slightly ahead of public releases and first thing i do is disable that cra^H^H^Hnice aegis
08:16.59ieatlintthe internal releases let you disable aegis?
08:17.07fralsnah
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08:17.17fralsits about the hardware
08:17.29ieatlintah, the internal devices allow it?
08:17.46fralssomething like that
08:17.54mecewell i did sh /etc/network/if-up.d/drop_gprs_to_sshd
08:17.59mecean nothing happened.
08:20.13meceand I still can't login
08:20.16mece:/
08:22.14meceerm ok heh
08:22.40fralsmece: well if the rule is there already i guess you need to flush iptables
08:23.13frals... i guess that would be the aegis friendly way of doing it instead of messing with the drop_gprs script... assuming root is allowed to mess with iptables :(
08:23.15ieatlinti looked at that... couldn't get iptables to access the filter table
08:23.18ieatlintkept giving permissions errors
08:23.24fralsREALLY likes aegis... no, really....
08:23.37mecefrals, well doesn't the script actually do the opposite of what I wanted?
08:23.38ieatlintand aegis stops "root"
08:23.51fralsmece: yes, the script adds the rule, thats why i said modify it :)
08:23.57meceheh..
08:24.01meceok that's not safe now is it.
08:24.10fralsmece: chmod -x the file so its not executed, but aegis might have say about that
08:24.32mecehmm only port 22 tho. perhaps if I change the port of the server instead.
08:24.59fralsmece: or rename gprs0 to gprs1 ;o
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08:25.15ieatlintchanging port is probably safer :P
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08:25.23ieatlintand probably a better idea anyway
08:25.25meceport worked
08:25.26fralsyeah, just changing the port is probably easiest
08:25.27frals:D
08:25.52mece\o/ I'
08:25.57mecem in
08:26.00mece:9
08:26.02mece:)
08:26.17meceI think I'll post this in infodump thread
08:26.23ieatlintnow you can stalk whomever has that phone
08:28.01meceieatlint, um?
08:28.20fralsieatlint: assuming the ip doesnt change eh? ;)
08:28.23ieatlintit's how i keep my girl in line
08:28.42fralsi was actually planning to set up my n900 to always open a reverse tunnel to my server whenever it went online
08:29.02fralsbut i had this feeling about powerconsumption... ;(
08:29.19ieatlintwell ssh itself doesn't have a keepalive
08:29.33ieatlintso in theory it wouldn't take any, but the connection may drop without either end knowing
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08:31.14petteriall those brute force attacs to hack your phone will kill the battery :)
08:34.34mecepetteri, well changing the port really helps that.
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08:35.22petteriif i look at my box I see that the hackers first map the ports and then attac the ssh port
08:35.32ieatlintassuming you connect from known ips, you might still want to modify the sshd_config to only allow connections from them
08:35.59ieatlintpetteri: that's true for targeted attacks
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08:36.13ieatlintsomeone monitoring ips for vulnerable hosts isn't going to waste time scanning all ports
08:36.16mecepetteri, well I had thousands of attacks on my box, and then I changed the port and I've had 0 attacks since then. 0. That's not many.
08:36.20ieatlintthey'll hit the known ones and move on
08:36.24mecethousands daily I mean.
08:36.35mecethat's 0 attacks in 4 months.
08:36.44petterisuft to one suspicous site with linux on the useragent and you will be lost
08:37.05petteribetter put public key auth to sshd if you are going to use ti
08:37.06petteriit
08:37.22mecewhat are we talking about?
08:37.30ieatlintshoes, i think
08:37.34mecei believe so.
08:37.35ieatlinti'm wearing black ones
08:37.44meceMine are black but have some white details
08:37.46djszapisorry, is this the harmattan channel ? :)
08:38.09meceyep. My shoes are good for the dry harmattan winds. How about yours?
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08:38.47meceoh my.
08:38.54ieatlintdunno, might get sand in mine
08:38.59mecehm
08:39.01meceanyway
08:39.47mecechanging the port allows you to connect via 3g without messing about with the aegis protected script.
08:40.54meceand yes petteri, it's not completely safe, but then again nothing is. And I have sshd off unless I need to use it.
08:41.02petterii am just saying that you should not have root password ssh login on enabled in public internet
08:41.14meceI don't have that
08:41.39mecebut user can do devel-su so it's pretty much the same, security wise. Just a bit more obscurity.
08:42.34petteripublic key auth adds security, i would use that if i had to have the sshd running
08:43.00meceyeah I use that on my N900, but I haven't had time to set it up on N950
08:44.13mecePerhaps I should make a little app that stops/starts the sshd so I wouldn't have to go into xterm to do it.
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09:39.18DocScrutinizer[2011-10-18 09:17:53] <mece> what's the command for starting/stopping sshd?   [2011-10-18 02:12:11] <DocScrutinizer> start ssh
09:40.55DocScrutinizer[2011-10-18 09:59:38] <mece> anyway I need sshd open over 3g, which means I also want to shut it down when I don't use it...    [2011-10-18 02:18:04] <DocScrutinizer> grep AllowUser /etc/ssh/ssh_config
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09:45.37meceDocScrutinizer, there was also the script that drops calls to port 22 over gprs
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09:48.14meceDocScrutinizer, anyway I just changed the port to work past that.
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09:50.08RST38hyawns, moos at the moon
09:50.43mecewhat's up RST38h?
09:51.13RST38hNot much Maemo related. Have to update my apps, will probably work on them this week
09:51.46RST38hstill wonders if he can use SPARQL QtComponent with the latest firmware update
09:52.05RST38hWould be nice to get file lists from the tracker db
09:52.51meceRST38h, is that prevented somehow?
09:52.59radiofreeRT38h : you mean the qml bindings?
09:53.43RST38hmece: in the first firmware version, loadig component failed due to missing parts
09:53.46RST38hradio: yes
09:54.00radiofreewhich version is in the new firmware update?
09:54.18radiofreehopefully you'll have 0.0.30 now
09:55.08radiofreethe 0.2.x releases have a brand new set of qml bindings, you'll be able to do things like "property SparqlConnection connection : SparqlConnection { ....} ", "connection.selectQuery(foo)" etc..
09:56.00radiofreebut if you have 0.0.30 you will be able to use the SparqlListModel {} now
09:57.40RST38hI need an example that would query SPQRQL for files of given mime type using SparqlListModel
09:57.51RST38hSo far, I have only seen one SparqlListModel example online
10:01.43radiofreeRST38h: so what, like all images in a folder?
10:02.17radiofreeRST38h: I think it might be SparqlResultsList in the old version?
10:02.57radiofreeyes, 0.0.30 (or maybe it got fixed in 0.0.28, as long as you have that it should be ok) it's SparqlResultsList you want to use
10:03.18JaffaOooh, a good price: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5794/nokia-n9-64gb--sim-free-unlocked--black-
10:03.29RST38hradiofree: Look, there are so many versions and they change so fast and have so little documentation that I do not really want to know how it was called
10:03.36RST38hJust need an example
10:03.58radiofreethere's not need to get tetchy, I'm just trying to nail down what you will/won't be able to do
10:04.02RST38hThat I can compile and run with the dev firmware we have got in N950s
10:04.20radiofreewhat does apt-cache showpkg libqtsparql0 say?
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10:04.41RST38hradio; no idea, at work right now, away from the device
10:04.47RST38hbut will know tonight
10:04.56radiofreeyou could, for example, get all the paths for all files in /home/user/MyDocs/foo with something like
10:05.01radiofreeSELECT ?url WHERE { ?u a nfo:FileDataObject ; nie:url ?url . FILTER (fn:starts-with (?url, "file:///home/user/MyDocs/foo/")) }
10:05.23radiofreeif you wanted just the images, you could use ?u a nfo:Image instead
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10:06.03faenilgood morning guys! :)
10:07.18RST38hwriting down
10:07.24hiemanshuMorning
10:07.26radiofreeso then in qml you would do model: SparqlResultsList { options: SparqlConnectionOptions { driverName: "QTRACKER_DIRECT" } query : "your query" }
10:07.27hiemanshufaenil: PM
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10:07.51faenilhiemanshu: where? XD
10:07.51RST38hradio: Actually got my own mime type (not image) how do I do that?
10:07.52radiofreeRT38h: then, in your delegate you could do Text : { text: "Path = " + url }
10:09.03radiofreeyou could filter on the nie#mimeType
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10:09.28RST38hsahaa!
10:10.38RST38hradio: thanks!
10:10.45radiofreeprobably a useful command would be tracker-sparql -q "select * { <the uuid of the file> ?o ?p }", it will display the nie:mimeType there (along with everything else indexed about the file)
10:12.55radiofreei'll build a concrete example later (based on whatever version you have)
10:14.45radiofreedepending on the version you have, you might be able to use a QSparqlQueryModel and use setContextProperty. Which, if you want to do other queries with the connection, might be more useful
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10:28.17djszapimpr ping
10:28.49djszapican you paste the content of the ssu source file ?
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11:24.08snowpongit's possible to import contacts into the n9 via gmail account right?
11:26.45w00tcreate an mfe account, using server m.google.com
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11:54.21grispenap, so your qml ui and mtf code both start in landscape and you can rotate?
11:55.09spenapyes, I think I know what's the problem: somehow the central widget doesn't get the initial rotation state
11:55.29spenapso if you start it landscape, it is in the right orientation, and rotates as it should after that
11:55.56spenapbut, if you start in portrait mode, it is rotated 90ยบ, (although it "knows" that it's portrait
11:56.05spenapso further rotations seems to screw it
11:56.11griyes, that's what I've seen
11:56.19grimy app took 50% of the screen
11:56.22spenapyes
11:56.30spenapthen it probably works fine in the other orientation
11:56.41spenapI will investigate it, but I think I know how to fix it
11:57.17griwhat worked was to set the mtf window to landscape and leave the qml as it was - but then the virtual keyboard will appear in landscape if your gui is portrait :D
11:58.14spenapyeah, what we need to do is to forward the orientation event to the centralwidget, I'd say
11:58.25spenapI'm trying it
11:58.34grialso it did not help me with my reparenting problem of the contacts-chooser - the behavior is still the same. Appearing works fine, closing results in seeing the switcher instead of the application again
11:59.33griwonder what's the right way ? for selecting contacts with harmattan ui
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12:01.43snowpongw00t: thanks
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12:02.12snowponganother thing, is the MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN define still not in any Qt SDK releases and we need to do the extra .pro file hacks to define it?
12:04.00Hq`it works with the latest sdk, just include "qplatformdefs.h"
12:08.11snowpongHq`: excellent, thanks
12:09.28CepiPerezhello all
12:12.22Hq`has anyone successfully used QFeedbackEffect::playThemeEffect ?
12:12.29Hq`nothing seems to happen...
12:13.41Hq`(on N9)
12:15.41MilhouseCompletely OT - sorry for that - but this is quite amazing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA :)
12:16.34StskeepsMilhouse: hoverboard time!
12:17.13MilhouseIndeed, me WANT! :)
12:18.01meceMilhouse, :) pretty cool
12:18.18meceyou need some good warm shoes... :D
12:18.19Milhousepretty cool? PRETTY cool?! :)
12:18.30Milhousetough crowd!
12:18.53mecewell it was not exactly news
12:19.08Stskeepshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71U&feature=related
12:19.10Milhouseas demonstrations go of superconductivity, it's not bad
12:19.19mecebut this is a really good demonsration
12:19.21meceyeah
12:20.04Stskeepsmore interestingily is if you can measure the weight of the disc on top
12:20.18mecehm
12:20.25Stskeepsi'm thinking moving boxes..
12:20.33mecemmhm
12:21.27meceI want stuff superconducting while warm.
12:21.35mecethen I'll be amazed
12:22.18MilhouseI think they're getting there - the fact they're touching that disc without gloves suggests it's not that cold
12:22.28Milhousewhat's on top, dry ice?
12:23.42meceWhat do I say when people ask what Nemo is?
12:23.56Stskeepsmece: prolly wrong channel
12:24.01meceyes oops
12:24.02mece:)
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12:41.10DocScrutinizerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductor#High-temperature_superconductivity
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13:22.56meceI'm having a hard time finding basic notification example (Notifications as in vibration, getting that little green flag up there and adding stuff to the feed view). What is that thing even called?
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13:23.43hiemanshumece: MNotifications
13:24.01mecehiemanshu, ah, no Qt class for that huh?
13:24.27hiemanshunope, its either that, or using DBus calls to add to event feed
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13:24.55meceOh well, I'm satisfied with MNotifications I suppose. Thanks :)
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13:34.25mecehiemanshu, do you know any open source apps that use notifications, that I could look at as an example?
13:35.16hiemanshumece: the WidgetGallery does it
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13:36.56mecesweet!
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13:42.12sivangcan harmattan play ogg , does anybody know?
13:43.22DocScrutinizeriirc it's in the product specs, yes
13:43.55sivangcool, thanks
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13:49.55Corsacand can it do gapless playback?
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13:51.35hiemanshuIIRC yes
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14:18.39snowpongany hdmi output for n9 or n950? does it support MHL cables or something?
14:21.34leinirno hdmi output, unfortunately... only the old rgb thing (just use the cable from your n900)
14:23.18rantomCan I just use "restore device" and "clean device" from the N950?
14:23.29rantomOr should I rather flash it with Beta2 fw?
14:30.15snowpongleinir: ok thanks
14:38.06Arkenoihmm, n9 found by local bt search.. wonder who bought it in our office
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15:52.09Khertan_n950Hi !
15:52.33Khertan_n950Someone know if there is a bug related to position fixed and harmattan browser ?
15:52.57Khertan_n950i can t understand why my toolbar did nt stay on the bottom when scrolling
15:53.35Khertan_n950http://khertan.net/khtnotes click on settings button and you ll see what i mean
15:53.55Khertan_n950(this works on other browser (also fennec))
15:56.00radiofreeKhertan_n950: I don't know about that specific problem, but on firefox the bottom of the note can be hidden by the toolbar
15:56.56Khertan_n950~ping
15:56.56infobot~pong
16:01.02Khertan_n950radiofree: yeah i see that too ...
16:01.07Khertan_n950radiofree, thx
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16:03.23Khertan_n950i really need to found a way which works on all browser to put that toolbar
16:03.59Khertan_n950it s a pain to made things working everywhere
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16:13.46Arkenoigot similar IM database corruption problems like i encountered on n900 :-(
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16:47.20VelmontHrmf. I've used 2 days. Still can't figure out how to unlock my N9. I have the code, I just can't input it because I'm not able to type "w" on the keypa.d
16:47.28VelmontDo anyone know how to do that?
16:47.37Velmont#pw+12341234#
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16:48.05freemangordonStskeeps ping
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17:02.07LilltigerVelmont: no "w", what kinda N9 is that.. dont you have qwerty?
17:02.52fralsVelmont: unlock what exactly?
17:04.08fralsah, right, in the dialer i guess
17:05.56Stskeepsfreemangordon: pong
17:11.21freemangordonStskeeps hi
17:11.27freemangordonneed a little help :D
17:11.32Velmontfrals, Lilltiger: Yup, in the dialer.
17:12.08freemangordonAny chance you to help with getting gst-dsp source code (the one in Harmattan)
17:12.26freemangordonFelipe Contreras is the author
17:12.33VelmontEveryone says, start the N9 without sim-card, it will ask you if you want to start it without SIM-card (IT DOESN'T, it just starts anyway). -- Then they say, write in #pw+12341234+#  --- but no, there's no way to input that. And in the normal dialer, I can't input "w".
17:12.46griVelmont, I can't even enter chars with the hardware keyboard of the n950
17:12.55VelmontI even tried copy/pasting #pw+ in, but it's only #p+ when I do it.
17:13.31VelmontTelenor fooled me. They gave me the unlock code, but it's of no use if I can't input it :P
17:14.10griwhat's the unlock code for?
17:14.22fralsVelmont: you could try emailing tel:#pw+12341234# to yourself and hope fenix gives you a quicklink to it
17:15.19fralsVelmont: or adding a contact with that number
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17:15.47fralsok contact approach didnt work
17:15.53Velmontgri: It's a SIM-lock.
17:16.17Velmontgri: I can only use Telenor SIM-cards in the phone. But I've got an unlock code so that I can use another operator for it.
17:16.35griah ok, didn't know the n9 can be sim-locked
17:17.06fralsVelmont: uh, are you sure it is actually sim-locked atm? i.e. did you try with another sim?
17:17.16Velmontfrals: Yup. Many times. :-)
17:17.36VelmontI thought that might trigger a "do you want to try to unlock it" feature, but alas, no.
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17:19.50fralsguess you tried it without the w as well
17:21.00VelmontYep. :-) And I didn't really try for 2 days, but I have had the code for a full 24 hours and *still* haven't been able to crack the code.
17:24.14tommaVelmont, have you tried calling with some other way than dialer?
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17:28.37fralsVelmont: send a email to yourself with the string: tel:#pw+12341234#
17:29.25w00tfacepalms
17:36.53Velmontfrals: I'll try but I don't think it'll work because it obviously seems to sanitize its input very well.
17:37.05fralsVelmont: worked here
17:37.23Velmontfrals: OK, worth a shot. As long as I don't lock it forever :p
17:38.22fralsworked here as in it would start the call to a number containing 'w'
17:38.27lardmanlooks at pretty primary and secondary colours, and while only cursing anchors a little, feels reasonably happy
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17:41.48Stskeepsfreemangordon: it is oss, google for it
17:42.31Velmontfrals: Nops, the email client hilight:     tel:#pw{+12341234}+4#
17:42.48fralsVelmont: and pressing on it doesnt work to launch a contact card?
17:43.09Velmontfrals: Yes it does, but with +12341234 as phone number.
17:43.15fralsoh
17:43.18VelmontSo none of the control codes.
17:43.31freemangordonStskeeps - the code which is available on internet is not the same as in Harmattan
17:43.32fralswell that sucks
17:43.34lardmanQML text or label or whatever, is it possible to rotate text?
17:44.06fralsgood news is it sucks less in PR1.1 i guess... since i get everything including tel: highlighted
17:44.08Velmontfrals: Hehe. -- I've also sent an email asking, but they've always 2-5 days turnaround time on that... :-)
17:44.22Velmontfrals: PR1.1 is what? I'm running 1.0?
17:44.41Stskeepsfreemangordon: how can you tell?
17:45.06freemangordonbecause of the package version
17:45.22fralsVelmont: next update, i assume.. and yes, if you dont work at nokia id say you use 1.0
17:45.52Stskeepsfreemangordon: what version harmattan has?
17:46.52VelmontI work at Opera Software, so I've got a unreleased build of that on it, -- but no, it doesn't help me much :)
17:47.00freemangordongstreamer0.10-dsp-0.9.0-6+0m6
17:47.47Stskeepsfreemangordon: and what is out in public?
17:48.06freemangordonlots of stuff, but not that
17:48.17Stskeepsno, the version
17:48.35freemangordonnothing
17:48.43freemangordonbesides the one on google code
17:48.58Stskeepsask me in 25 mins
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17:49.04freemangordonand maemo version, which is an year old
17:49.10freemangordonok
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17:55.00fralsVelmont: you could try going to settings -> device -> sim-card or smth like that, but im not sure if it works
17:55.12Velmontfrals: Have tried that as well ;-)
17:55.33fralsi queried you btw, in case you missed it
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18:02.20Stskeepsfreemangordon: https://github.com/felipec/gst-dsp/tags
18:02.26Stskeepsfreemangordon: the -6 part is packaging
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18:08.01tommaVelmont, try qdbus com.nokia.call-ui /Call Com.Nokia.Telephony.CallUi.Call "" "#pw+12341234#"
18:08.12tommai have no idea if that works...
18:08.23fralstomma: it doesnt, i tried :<
18:09.00fralsor actually, i tried qdbus com.nokia.telephony.callhistory /callhistory com.noki
18:09.04fralsa.telephony.callhistory.dialer #pw+12341234#
18:09.18fralsgetting access denied by dbus to .call-ui thou ;)
18:09.56tommaok seems like that my line gives some weird error notification =)
18:10.16fralsah yeah works from develsh... "Call disconnected"
18:11.24freemangordonStskeeps that is the same as on google code, but that is not what is in Harmattan, just trust me on that. Harmattan gst-dsp has HD codecs support, while that does not.
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18:12.46tommafrals, looks like your line does open dialer fine but filter that "w" out =)
18:13.23Stskeepsfreemangordon: /me goes check
18:17.33Stskeepsfreemangordon: send felipe an email and ask what the situation is
18:19.18freemangordon_both me and pali already done that nearly a month ago, no anser
18:19.49Stskeepsok
18:20.43Stskeepsooh, my provider has nokia n9
18:21.08freemangordon_:-D for your wife ?
18:21.21Stskeepsno, for myself, i don't own a n9
18:21.30Stskeepsand n950 isn't working for me as a daily telephone
18:21.59freemangordon_aah ok.
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18:49.46lardmanStskeeps: why's it not working?
18:49.52lardmanand why would the N9 be better?
18:51.03Stskeepswhy what not?
18:51.03Stskeeps:P
18:51.11Stskeepslardman: oh - the signal issues
18:51.37lardmanoh, poor signal strenght?
18:51.39Stskeepslardman: i'm getting so bad reception on n950 that it's unusable for me as the primary function is to be usable when i'm elsewhere in poland, as well as constantly dropping out
18:51.57Stskeepsie, it's managed to cure me of irc addiction while mobile and that's a bad sign
18:52.00Stskeeps:P
18:52.01lardmanhmm, mine is pretty poor, but I just assumed that was the network being bad
18:52.07lardmanlol
18:52.53lardmanI'd only ever be using much mobile stuff sat on the west coast train line up to Birmingham, and that has chronic Vodafone coverage anyway
18:54.30lardmangoes back to his QML feeling vaguely pleased at the pretty colours
18:54.47lardmanshame I have to get rid of those for the final ui ;)
18:58.01lardmannevertheless, it's nice to be back writing the C++ backend :)
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19:26.17merlin1991tbh n9 feels like it gets better reception than n900, at least for me
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19:26.43rafael2k_hi there people, my N950 arrived!!!
19:26.44rafael2k_; ))
19:26.58SpeedEvilCongrats.
19:27.04merlin1991rafael2k_: welcome to the club :) (wich I'm not part of)
19:27.14rafael2k_let me ask you one thing, how to install the toolchain in the cellphone itself?
19:27.30rafael2k_I don't like to cross compile things
19:27.31rafael2k_; )
19:27.45rafael2k_merlin1991: SpeedEvil: thanks!
19:28.15artemmastarts getting the feeling that N950s just weren't verified real hard at the factory production line - so many quite different impressions about its GPS, GSM, etc
19:28.16rafael2k_in my N900 it was just a matter of add the repos and voila
19:28.35Stskeepsartemma: i simply think there wasn't a lot of tuning
19:28.55artemmarafael2k_: congrats!
19:29.25rafael2k_; )
19:29.28artemmaStskeeps: it looks like people are having different hardware issues, not the same. I hope not every single device is fine tuned at the end of the factory line :)
19:30.02rafael2k_any news on FM listening people?
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19:46.18lardmanI was just wondering about FM reception the other day
19:47.30rafael2k_I could write a software, but I need to know how to do the low level FM capture
19:47.50lardmanI've got a vertical QML ListView in a rectangle at the bottom of my screen and when I scroll it up it moves into the neighbouring rectangle; any ways to avoid this?
19:48.06lardmanrafael2k_: is there a kernel driver for the hw?
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19:48.12lardmancheck dmesg
19:48.34lardmanthen it should just be a case of looking to see what the kernel driver expects and opening the appropriate dev file
19:49.56rafael2k_lardman: I hope so, I read sometime ago of problems with the driver
19:50.11rafael2k_But I wasn't with the N950 to test..
19:51.07lardmaninteresting, I've not had any time to mess about with listening to the radio, but was thinking about it yesterday while doing some soldering listening to music
19:52.05lardmanwe were talking about the Tab yesterday, the N950 certainly has it beaten in quality of A2DP/SBC Bluetooth stereo audio
19:52.41rafael2k_http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902
19:52.48lardmantakes a look
19:55.27lardmanlooks like quite a bit of work has been done there
19:55.39rafael2k_btw, if someone finds a way to install the toolchain in the harmattan itself, let me know
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19:56.13lardmanI would say talk to lcuk, he was always very keen to build on device... :(
20:01.09rafael2k_thanks!
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20:22.56Arkenoigets damn poor reception as well
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