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00:29.51M4rtinKis it possible to do clickable links in QML Text/Label ? :)
00:31.53M4rtinKoh, it is: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-text.html#onLinkActivated-signal
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01:58.25DocScrutinizeryeah, always been a PITA to use, I pondered it for plain Qt3 and Twinkle, but it was the same and too much of additional coding needed
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08:16.40sivanghi all
08:16.49Stskeepslo sivang
08:18.06dm8tbrmoaning
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08:25.17sivanghey Stskeeps , dm8tbr
08:25.40sivangdo you know if the framework consolidating all messaging in Fremantle/Harmattan is telepathy ?
08:26.25sivangI am looking to create a webmail sort of webapp that aggregates my messaging from facebook, gmail, any other IMAP server, gtalk etc
08:26.38BluesLeehow do i ssh to the n9? i got an ip and i can ssh to it but the default pwd for devel-su is not accepted
08:26.43sivangI know Maemo had this even for skype in Fremantle
08:26.58sivangBluesLee: I think it is 'rootme'
08:27.32BluesLeesivang: on the n9 its rootme, if i ssh from my linux box its not accepted
08:27.43sivangBluesLee: also, if you install the SDK connectivity tool, you can set the password or get one generated for the SDK, from that account you become root or have effectivelly same creds
08:28.36BluesLeei did not setup the sdk so far, just trying from a linux terminal, should work or not?
08:29.27sivangBluesLee: you need not setup the SDK, just install the SDK connectivity tool in your N9
08:29.48tarantismBluesLee: You get it if you enable developer mode
08:29.56BluesLeeyou mean sdk mode in settings?
08:30.05BluesLeei did that
08:30.53tarantismDeveloper mode in Settings->Security
08:30.56BluesLeethen i connected via usb, networkmanager sees usb0, i have an ip and i do !ssh devel-su@ip"
08:31.32BluesLeei mean "ssh devel-su@ip" but rootme a pwd does not work
08:31.38tarantismyou need to connect as developer@ip.address
08:32.02tarantismand get the password from the sdk connectivity app
08:32.03BluesLeepwd?
08:32.08BluesLeeokay
08:32.11BluesLeeone moment
08:32.31tarantismit changes every time you start the sdk connectivity app ;(
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08:33.40sivangBluesLee: this might also work, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79355
08:34.00sivangtarantism: he can set an SSH key through the SDK and then just ssh to it without a password
08:34.49tarantismsivang: I didn't know you could do it that way. I just added the key to .ssh/known_hosts
08:35.53sivangtarantism: yes, it is a proper linux device with everything that this implies :)
08:35.59sivangtarantism: this is why I love it so much
08:36.32tarantismsivang: +1
08:37.13tarantismauthorized_keys not known_hosts
08:38.32BluesLeetarantism: u can use custom pwd in settings
08:39.00tarantismBluesLee: using authorized_keys is even better
08:41.37BluesLeethanks
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08:49.10RST38xsheepishly admits he is missing the foldout stand n900 had
08:50.05sivangRST38x: that was a cool thing, indeed, but the angle stand allows to use it as a a small tv / movie device
08:53.47BluesLeei have an issue here: my provider pushs an app to the launcher screen and an entry to the event screen whenever the sim is active
08:54.52BluesLeethe desktop file is located in ~/.local/usr/share/applications
08:55.21qronicAnd you wanna hide it?
08:55.32BluesLeemoving it away is only a temporary solution as its repushed
08:55.37BluesLeeqronic: yes
08:55.52BluesLeei need the additional space on the event screen
08:56.09qronicit will reappear every reboot
08:56.24qronicyou can add NotShowIn=X-MeeGo; into .desktop file
08:56.37qronicbut you'll have to touch this file every reboot to hide it
08:56.40BluesLeeqronic: i know, or when i switch back from flight mode
08:57.05BluesLeethe bigger issue is with the event screen
08:57.17qronicwhat's there?
08:57.36BluesLeejust the name of the provider and that i am at home:-)
08:57.56qronicthat can be turned off in settings I guess
08:58.14BluesLeeqronic: its also pushed
08:58.19qronicSettings>Mobile>Show info about net
08:58.54BluesLeeyou mean cell info?
08:58.59qronicprobably yes
08:59.01BluesLeeits off
08:59.43qronicstrange then, I've turned this off and my provider's push messages were disabled
08:59.55qronicyour's probably using something different then mine
08:59.55BluesLeeokay
09:00.06qronicthen=than
09:00.51BluesLeecan you check your settings that we are talking about the same settings?
09:01.36qronicI've already did :) it's the lsat entry (switcher) in "common"
09:01.45qronicbefore "data"
09:03.05BluesLeeone moment, settings/mobile network/third one
09:03.27qronicyes
09:03.41BluesLeethat does not work for me
09:08.13sivangthanks people, so far.
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09:09.48BluesLeewhere are those services/events registered?
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09:20.12lardman|homemorning all
09:20.40BluesLeemorning
09:20.41Stskeepsmorn lardman|home
09:20.48lardman|homehi chaps
09:21.34lardman|homeanyone know anything about camera video output and rotation?
09:22.13lardman|homeI'm assuming that when the device is rotated, the origin, etc. of graphical items moves. The issue I have is that the camera output doesn't rotate
09:22.54lardman|homeI'm pretty sure it used to on the N900 though, so does anyone know whether that was performed in the driver, or if I've missed something, or whether one needs to perform the rotation oneself with harmattan?
09:25.29lardman|homeSo in landscape mode all iswell, but in portrait mode the camera image is rotated anti-clockwise 90 degrees
09:25.43lardman|homehmm, looks like if I can disable rotation of the widget itself it should all appear correcy
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09:36.13lardman|homeah /me wonders if this is a QCamera bug as he's not yet updated
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09:46.07lardman|homestarts update and crosses fingers something has changed and that it will now work
09:48.59lardman|homecould someone tell me what the latest release is via ota update? I'm just wondering if the one-click flasher now contains the latest version? one-click gives 39-5 (2.2011.39-5_PR_RM680)
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09:54.28lardman|homefyi 39-5 is what I can't download ota
09:54.40lardman|homeI'll try the one-click flasher instead
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10:51.40keruspeHi
10:52.21keruspeWhere can I download meego PR 1.1 ? I need to flash my N9, but I have definitely no windows nor mac os available, and I can't find a direct link for download...
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10:53.03dm8tbrI don't think there's a OCF for the N9
10:54.42keruspeI found links for the PR1.0 2 weeks ago on an obscure forum (they were links to anything.nokia.com/anything-else, but I can't find them back
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11:04.03qronicaren't those credentials (accli -I of some binary) are inheritable?
11:13.23keruspedm8tbr: I don't need an OCF btw, I just need the firmware itself
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11:27.04qronicok, another question, if I try to run a program from develsh, which has a credential that develsh doesn't have, will the program operate with that credential?
11:27.20Jare_anyone got jabber group chats (MUC) working in N9?
11:27.36Jare_i think it doesn't support those...?
11:29.59phakoJare_: at least for skype IIRC you can't initiate one, you need to be invited/join one. No idea for jabber
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11:38.59djszapiHi! Is there a way to enable the stdout on Harmattan ?
11:42.56tarantismdjszapi: Not sure what you mean. Are you trying to enable logging?
11:43.31djszapitarantism: try to print to stdout, and you will see.
11:44.55djszapilike qDebug() << "Hello World"; or printf("Hello World");
11:45.09djszapionly fprintf(stderr, "Hello World"); has been working here.
11:46.22tarantismdjszapi: didn't know that
11:46.25w00tso you tried to printf to stdout as well?
11:46.59merlin1991djszapi: qDebug() << $anything did work for me just fine
11:47.01fralsqDebug() << "sup" works fine in my application
11:48.59djszapiw00t: that is the default for printf..
11:49.15w00tdjszapi: so you tried it?
11:49.20djszapiyes, many times.
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11:49.33w00tdjszapi: ok, just that your paste says qDebug, which is a completely different codepath :)
11:49.36w00tbut yeah, works fine for me
11:50.03djszapiw00t: huh ? like qDebug() << "Hello World"; or printf("Hello World");
11:50.07djszapiI mentioned both :)
11:50.16w00toh, true, didn't see that
11:50.34w00tneedcoffee
11:50.43djszapiw00t: are you involved in qt pim ?
11:51.37w00tinvolved in what sense? it's a topic that interests me :)
11:51.53djszapiI saw your posts about that, and was wondering about kde pim and qt pim...
11:52.10djszapiI did not see any discussions yet whether there is some need for sharing something
11:53.32w00tit would probably be nice, i'm not sure if anyone has taken it upon themselves to write a qcontactmanagerengine on top of their technologies, but that would be a good first step
11:53.38w00t(and raising any issues they came across)
11:54.02w00tsame for organizer etc :)
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12:43.06RzRdjszapi: hi the builders are on idle and sshfs cant find fuse ?
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12:46.29djszapiRzR: sorry, but do not have time to deal with that ...
12:46.35djszapibigger issues here at the KDE Harmattan sprint ...
12:46.50RzRok i did import b3 fuse to check this
12:47.02RzRgood luck w/ kde
12:47.32djszapiRzR: please delete the fuse seriously
12:47.38djszapido not mess up the kdelibs running right now ...
12:47.46djszapiwe do not wanna have anything retriggered, thanks..
12:47.59djszapiand importing makes no sense anyway
12:48.21djszapiand hte problem is that what I told you last time, namely: you package is not processed yet.
12:48.31djszapisince it all builds kdelibs and relevant stuff we are triggering here.
13:05.24unreal-anyone know why applifed keeps spamming syslog with this every second: applifed[937]: Amount of free memory dropped below threshold, re-prestart disabled
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13:16.26keruspeIt's annoying, I really need to flash my n9, it won't boot anymore. I found back a direct link to PR1.0, but downgrade is forbidden
13:16.45keruspeWhy nokia doesn't give obvious direct link for PR1.1 ? :(
13:20.06merlin1991because there is no obvious link
13:20.10unreal-why doesn't it boot anymore?
13:20.26merlin1991there are 10 billion different firmware images, and you're supposed to have a "professional" flash your device
13:20.31merlin1991it's a consumer device after all
13:21.34keruspeunreal-: because I messed it up
13:21.51keruspemerlin1991: well, there are links for 1.0, so why not for 1.1 ?
13:22.10unreal-too much messing with root is bad for your telephone
13:23.25unreal-keruspe: i hear people download the roms with http://www.symbian-toys.com/navifirm.aspx
13:23.47djszapikeruspe: very simple, because Nokia does not wanna ?
13:23.50keruspeyep, but it's only available for windows
13:23.59unreal-virtualbox?
13:24.01DocScrutinizer[Notice] -kloeri- [Global Notice] Hi all, it's time to continue our ircd upgrades so we'll have a few netsplits as wolfe and hubbard is restarted. It will be somewhat noisy with just shy of 4000 people affected but shouldn't take long. Thank you for using freenode.
13:24.55DocScrutinizer171 users
13:25.21keruspedjszapi: N9 is not available in France, I don't want to send it to England just because there is no link available... Flashing worked fine with 1.0
13:25.56unreal-keruspe: install virtualbox and done.
13:26.10jonnior use wine
13:26.33unreal-i'm note sure their thing works with wine, but it's certainly worth trying :-)
13:35.51RzRdjszapi: disabled : https://build.pub.meego.com/package/repositories?package=fuse&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan
13:35.59djszapikeruspe: I do not understand your problem
13:36.04djszapiif Nokia does not wanna publish it, that is it

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