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00:19.40Venemo_N950MohammadAG, ping
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00:26.52TSCHAKeeehmmm, any examples on how to set up a Page that uses the inverted (Dark) colours?
00:28.22mgedminTSCHAKeee, I looked that up once and added this to my main.qml:
00:28.31mgedminComponent.onCompleted: theme.inverted = true // Prefer white on black
00:28.47TSCHAKeeegot it.
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01:07.53Venemo_N950MohammadAG, zz_gri, OK, it seems that I was able to optimize the performance in some ways :)
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02:42.26rs65Hi, do I have to do something "special" to access a QObject property? I have an Album class (that inherits QObject) with "code" property, I have a list of QObjects (Albums), and when I do qDebug() << downloadQueue.first().property("code") I get QVariant(, )
02:42.40rs65am I missing something?
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03:08.42ieatlintvery OT, but as a bit of news... kim jong il is dead
03:14.19i483I have a InfoBanner and if I call banner.show the banner is visible just the first time, I there something I need to do?
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03:22.27luke-jrieatlint: so UN takes over?
03:25.48ieatlintif that's a serious question, then no, mcdonalds does
03:29.46ieatlintapparently, according to NK state tv, his cause of death is working too hard
03:31.29ieatlinta photoblog commemorating his lifelong work http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/
03:40.23SpeedEvilBeing the glorious leader is hard work.
03:40.38SpeedEvilWho was the son with a silly name?
03:46.13ieatlinti dunno, we just call him leader now
03:59.38yipdwSpeedEvil: Kim Jong-un, perhaps
04:00.34SpeedEviltries to convince himself he doesn't need an atomic clock for christmas.
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04:55.59TSCHAKeeeWhat are we supposed to use in QML to do swipe gestures?
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05:52.02u8Hi, do I need special permissions to write to a file in /home/user/MyDocs/ from my app? I'm using QNetworkAccessManager to download a file, it works fine on desktop but on Harmattan I get a 1 bit file
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05:54.30DocScrutinizerno, you usually can write to that location
05:55.06DocScrutinizerwonders how a 1bit file looks like
05:56.17DocScrutinizeroccasionally you get "strange effects" due to the fact the fs on MyDocs is VFAT
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05:56.44DocScrutinizerso no user, no permissions, no execute...
05:56.44u8and could you think of a reason of why it doesn't work?
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05:57.22u8I even tried /home/user
05:57.28u8and the same thing happens
05:58.08DocScrutinizernot really, when you don't request special permissions, or odd filename that's forbidden on VFAT. But then it's  not a 1bit file (assuming you meant 1 byte)
05:59.27u8the file it's like 2Mb
05:59.41DocScrutinizerstrace it
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05:59.58DocScrutinizeryou'll see "plain text" what happens
06:00.29DocScrutinizerI assume a bug in your program
06:00.42u8but it works on desktop
06:00.44u8and maemo
06:00.50u8it download the file
06:00.50DocScrutinizerhmm
06:01.05u8that's why I don't understand why it is failing to do it
06:01.08u8on N950
06:01.23DocScrutinizerhope you're not running it as root
06:01.30u8of course not
06:01.43DocScrutinizernfi, strace!
06:01.57u8I've tried as developer and as user
06:08.19TSCHAKeeearrrggghhh
06:08.35TSCHAKeeedoes anyone have code for a simple swipe gesture?!
06:14.46Sazpaimonnot sure how i could stand my n900 after harmattan
06:14.58Sazpaimonits just so much more responsive
06:15.16TSCHAKeee:/
06:15.55DocScrutinizertbh I never could stand harmattan despite any pinching and responsiveness, and it's always a delight to go back to N900
06:16.07TSCHAKeeeguess i will have to roll my own :/
06:19.37Aranel_N9_Sazpaimon exactly my train of thought. I couldn't,
06:21.02SazpaimonI gave my N900 to my girlfriend
06:21.08Sazpaimonshe uses it for sketch
06:21.16Sazpaimontried to use mypaint on it, but its so laggy
06:21.21Sazpaimoni couldnt do it
06:22.29Aranel_N9_I gave it to my mom, she was using so ancient phones, I couldnt stand it anymore.
06:25.04interiorcrocodilhi DocScrutinizer
06:25.45DocScrutinizerhi
06:26.07interiorcrocodilsorry, i really don't see which link is relevant to me
06:27.19DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/   http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/SDK_Sources_PR1.1.ISO
06:28.55DocScrutinizerhttp://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/zImage-2.6.32.39-dfl61-20113701
06:29.45Sazpaimonmypaint is probably bad because im using the extras-devel version
06:29.51Sazpaimonwhich is probably buggy
06:29.55DocScrutinizerwhich should be exactly your kernel (and uname) and thus match the existing modules
06:30.05SazpaimonDocScrutinizer, does opensh work yet
06:30.10DocScrutinizerno
06:30.27DocScrutinizerproven to fail as soon as you enter secure mode again
06:30.39interiorcrocodilthanks DocScrutinizer
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10:28.16MohammadAGSo, has anyone mentioned whether the open mode kernel doesn't break stock apps?
10:29.23MohammadAG<PROTECTED>
10:30.08MohammadAGYou can't see all methods of a class (including those inherited), probably due to site designers not giving a crap about QWidgets anymore
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10:31.51trxthat sucks
10:32.33leinirMohammadAG: Have you told them? They take feedback, you know... in particular one of them, who's a personal friend, knows what a LART is ;)
10:32.36xarcassMohammadAG: feel free to file a bug: I've had similar problem in creator, wrote a report and they've fixed it.
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10:33.32MohammadAGI'm talking about the site xarcass
10:33.49MohammadAGleinir: I'll see about that, in Uni now
10:34.28xarcassMohammadAG: yeah, i see. my point was that they likely will fix it if you would have reported the problem
10:49.30ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: ping
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11:21.39MohammadAGZogG_laptop: Pong
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11:25.31ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: do you port facebook client to n950?
11:27.28MohammadAGYes
11:28.02MohammadAGOnly part left for 0.1 is the profile page and commenting sheet
11:28.22jonniblaah, have anyone else runned into following error: QNetworkReplyImpl::_q_startOperation was called more than once
11:28.59MohammadAGIt's a warning
11:29.16MohammadAGHappens on Fremantle and harmattan, ignore it
11:29.28jonniohwell might be warning, but looks like that I'm not getting reply from http server...
11:29.38jonniohwell maybe I'm just having other issues then
11:29.57MohammadAGConnected the signal?
11:31.30jonniQObject::connect(nam, SIGNAL(finished(QNetworkReply*)), this, SLOT(finishedSlot(QNetworkReply*))); // finished slot seems never happen
11:31.55jonnifrom server side I can see that GET query does reach the apache server just fine.
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11:34.11MohammadAGHmm, weird
11:34.28MohammadAGI connect the reply itself but that shouldn't matter
11:34.33MohammadAGPaste your code?
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11:38.50ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: did you use oauth if yes do you use meego's one?
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11:42.06MohammadAGMeego's what?
11:42.22MohammadAGOAuth needs a web browser
11:42.45MohammadAGSo I just use a QGraphicsWebView
11:43.11MohammadAGWhats the meego thing you mentioned though?
11:43.25grioauth2 does not need a webview
11:43.46MohammadAGHmm!
11:43.49MohammadAG?*
11:44.07alteregoTeeheehee: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/398579_10150420554306078_666721077_8670845_496297109_n.jpg
11:44.10MohammadAGWasn't that XAuth?
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11:44.41griMohammadAG: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/example/oauthclient.cpp
11:44.44ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i'm trying to understand how it works rithg now
11:44.54jonniMohammadAG: very basic test basicly copypasted from qt examples: http://pastebin.com/j5nrSAAh
11:45.16threshersorry.. just checking... is it normal to have to simply flash the open kernel.for.the 950 and provide the ape for n9 to get a perfectly de aegised n9... they might as well have made it easier dor tj
11:46.18threshereasuer for customers than devs... running the 20.4.whichever firm off navifirm
11:46.23MohammadAGWhat the...
11:46.35ZogG_laptopgri btw in that example they included oauth2data.h wich are local ,but isn't it art of lib?
11:46.44MohammadAGgri: So that uses the built in fb login sheet,
11:46.48MohammadAG?+
11:47.05griMohammadAG: could be, the mechanism decides what you see
11:47.39MohammadAGSo basically I can't use my own Uo
11:47.46MohammadAGUI ffs
11:49.07griZogG_laptop: that file should be somewhere in your sdk, if not I bet you can get it from scratchbox - but you can also access all the values from the SignOn::SessionData object, you just have to use the string values then
11:49.42griMohammadAG: well the purpose of the plugin is to let the system do the authentication, so there's now custom ui I assume, yes
11:49.50grinow = no
11:50.30MohammadAGgri: So this is harmattan specific?
11:51.03griMohammadAG: yes, but I don't know if they included it in meego ce
11:51.51MohammadAGNot that it matters
11:53.27grias far as I know it's being ported to ubuntu, too
11:53.43MohammadAGSo how does it work?
11:53.45Jaffaalterego: Woohoo! And, was the N9 one of the "Welcome Gift" choices? If so, hopefully it'll still be there next year :-)
11:53.59alteregoJaffa: it was a welcome gift yeah :)
11:54.00MohammadAGInvisible browser?
11:54.17griMohammadAG: I did not try it for oauth
11:54.23gricompile the example code and try it :)
11:54.24MohammadAGalterego: Congrats :)
11:54.42alteregoJaffa: I've actually just put the cyan sleeve on my black N9, but I still feel more colourful :)
11:54.44MohammadAGHmm
11:54.55MohammadAGI have to provide my secret key
11:55.08alteregoJaffa: and the welcome gift is the 16G model. But still, will make a good target for Mer
11:55.24griMohammadAG: why? this is yours
11:55.24ZogG_laptopgri: MohammadAG and what about qml oauth module?
11:55.54MohammadAGI don't use WML
11:55.58MohammadAGQML*
11:56.00griZogG_laptop: don't know of such a thing. If you want to do your auth from qml, you have to use the webview. Or build a c++ class that does the auth
11:56.08alteregoMohammadAG: isn't good enough for QML yet :P
11:56.28MohammadAGQML isn't good enough for me
11:56.46ZogG_laptopgri: webview
11:56.49MohammadAGalterego: compiled > interpreted
11:57.06alteregoActually there's very little performance issue with QML when used as intended.
11:57.15MohammadAGiOS UIKit > Android Dalvik
11:57.19alteregoIf you start using JS for stupid calculations then .. Well ..
11:57.34ZogG_laptophttp://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/QML_OAuth
11:57.38MohammadAGalterego: Yeah. It takes 5s to start an app
11:58.12MohammadAGWhereas with mtf you get 1s startip
11:58.38alteregoProbably it building the scene.
11:58.50alteregoI can't argue with you there ;)
11:59.12MohammadAGSo fix slow startup and I might consider it
11:59.42grithe startup is slow, yes - that's the biggest problem of my app
11:59.52MohammadAGBut still I prefer C++
12:00.12MohammadAGgri: In mtf it'd start immediately
12:00.29grilearned to like qml since it forces you to write better code (core and gui separation)
12:00.55MohammadAGI do that with MTG
12:00.58MohammadAGMTF
12:01.23Jaffaalterego: The sleeve on my brother's new Lumia800 interferes with the device too much - even though it's a very nice case.
12:01.41Jaffaalterego: So I'm glad I haven't got the blue one to put on my N9. I'll get a blue Luna headset instead
12:02.01griMohammadAG: you can do that with everything but when mixing qml and c++ you can't even do it other than that :)
12:07.46ZogG_laptopMDeclarativeCache: No such file or directory wyf
12:08.04ZogG_laptopi have it second time, and ii don't remember how i fxed it first time
12:08.12alteregoJaffa: how so? It has an extra hole for the button but looks mostly the same?
12:08.21alteregoI haven't tried putting the lumia case on an N9 though
12:08.50griZogG_laptop: add
12:08.50griPKGCONFIG += qdeclarative-boostable
12:09.38alteregoJaffa: one interesting thing, the welcome gift N9 package is different to the one I bought, it has the same headset + remote as my N8 did, where as the one I bought only has a single button headset ..
12:10.07alteregoThe N9 sales package also has more cardboard boxes inside for manuals unlike my purchased N9 .
12:10.21Jaffaalterego: I meant he's got the sleeve on his Lumia800 and I don't like it in practice
12:11.17alteregoOh, you just don't like the sleeves?
12:19.20grithe rubber condom looks cheap (on the n9)
12:23.02alteregoWell, after I dropped my N9 a couple of weeks ago, I kinda want the added protection ;)
12:26.05MohammadAGDropped?
12:26.23MohammadAGcringes
12:28.00ZogG_laptopgri i had it, commented compiled uncommented compiled and now it's just fine, wieeerd
12:29.16alteregoYeah, took a small graze in the lower left corner :(
12:32.34ZogG_laptopalterego: buy the glue than and stick it to your hand =)
12:32.37griI never dropped any of my phones but my girlfriend regularly drops my phones on the ground ...
12:32.50ZogG_laptopgri: drop the gf than =)
12:33.02alteregoHeh
12:34.21griZogG_laptop: if I drop her, I need to move out of here :(
12:35.01griand also learn how to cook :)
12:35.10jonniblaah, looks like that Im better of calling wget with system(), than using QNetworkRequest which just fails
12:35.36grijonni: why does it fail? never had an issue with it
12:35.43ZogG_laptop<PROTECTED>
12:35.50jonnitried to connect to reply too, but nothing just happens
12:36.04ZogG_laptopgri can you help me understand that example they gave for oauth?
12:36.11grijonni: you have the paste code somewhere?
12:36.21jonnigri: finished signal seems just never happen
12:36.36ZogG_laptopjonni: what are you trying to do?
12:36.43jonnigri
12:36.48grijonni: very strange since that should even come on errors
12:36.53jonnihttp://pastebin.com/j5nrSAAh
12:37.25jonniIm just trying to get string returned from url, but maybe Im doing something wrong :)
12:38.06ZogG_laptopjonni: i just did it with my app, wanna see my code?
12:38.22jonniZogG_laptop: sure, if you have example somewhere
12:38.23ZogG_laptopactually i took it from somebodies example and modified it
12:38.51grijonni: it looks correct ...
12:39.38griZogG_laptop: there's not much to understand about the oauth thingy but I can try the example on my phone to verify it working
12:39.41jonnigri: atleast server side apache logs looks ok, GET request etc comes, but nothing seems to arrive to device
12:41.28ZogG_laptopjonni: but it's with post, though i think it's the same
12:41.30ZogG_laptophttp://pastebin.com/rL4qHkr7
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12:42.12ZogG_laptopgri: as i understand they have already token, but i don't have one, and it uses oauth while my service supports only oauth1
12:43.37ZogG_laptopjonni: but what are you trying to get back?
12:44.03jonniZogG_laptop: well basicly a string, or html page, or just one number
12:44.24jonniheh, would be happy to get back anything at all
12:44.28ZogG_laptopjonni: i used response to read all and than parsed what i need
12:44.45ZogG_laptopjonni: anyway look into my example it may help you
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12:45.19jonniproblem in my case is that finished signal never seems to be triggered
12:45.50jonniso pretty hard to read anything when I dont get any response
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12:46.33griyou can also connect the the finished() slot of the reply itself but that should not make any difference
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12:46.33griI do nothing different in my code and it works: https://gitorious.org/web2sms/web2sms/blobs/master/qmlplugin/messagehandler.cpp#line230
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12:47.13jonnigri: yep tried to connect finished() of the reply, but that was never triggered either
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12:47.46griwow, irc servers gone crazy :)
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12:48.52griZogG_laptop: in the plugin code itself you can see which values to fill for oauth1
12:48.58ZogG_laptopgri the main problem of example is that it already has token as like i authorize with it, but i need to request one at first as i understand
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12:50.01griZogG_laptop: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/src/oauth2plugin.cpp#line210
12:50.04griand line 247
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12:56.35Appiahhmm I thought there was some limited java support on N950/N9 , but there is none at all?
12:56.48RST38hno
12:57.04Appiahno...?
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13:01.36ZogG_laptopgri but what is captcha url?
13:01.43ZogG_laptopis it pin?
13:02.00ZogG_laptopor is it oauth/....
13:02.23griI haven't seen any captcha with oauth yet
13:02.34gribut I also did not use so many services :)
13:02.39ZogG_laptopvoid OAuth2Plugin::sendOAuth1AuthRequest(const QString &captchaUrl)
13:03.22griit seems this can be empty
13:03.27grisearch for the usage of sendOAuth1AuthRequest
13:03.33griit's called without that parameter
13:09.14ZogG_laptoptoo hard for me to understand it straight
13:10.03grijust ignore that parameter
13:11.56ZogG_laptopyeah but i want to understand how i pass the nickname and so on
13:12.25grioauth does not need a nickname?
13:13.17grihttps://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/src/oauth1data.h UserName can be set
13:24.46jonniblaah no error messages anywhere, so I guess I just call wget from my code....
13:25.38griwget is not available without developer mode
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14:01.53MohammadAGthp, you have an iOS device, download Edge (game on app store) and see if you can make a similar game for Harmattan :)
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14:11.24jonnigri: wget is available if I just add depends: wget to my deb file :)
14:11.43ZogG_laptopso it canWould like to see this feature as well! Of course i could wait for some 3rd
14:11.46ZogG_laptopparty app, but you know what: I don't buy a Mercedes and then also a BMW just
14:11.49ZogG_laptopfor moving the seats from the BMW into the Mercedes because it came without
14:11.55ZogG_laptopseats
14:12.18ZogG_laptopnice quote on some not planned baisc features on harmattan =)
14:13.12ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: not after thp finishes tap tap revange =)
14:15.46thpMohammadAG: funky game
14:15.59MohammadAGthp, FYI, it's free only for today :P
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14:16.35thpyep, just DLed today. the ipod is more of a gaming machine + website testing device these days, anyway ;)
14:17.07MohammadAGthp, and speaking of free games, asphalt 6 is free but that's off topic :P
14:17.28MohammadAGI need mine for WhatsApp and Viber
14:17.35MohammadAGtill I get people to start converting anyways
14:21.37thpZogG_laptop: well the taptap prototype code is open ;) so grab it and start hacking
14:23.13hiemanshuMohammadAG: there is also eBuddy XMS which is available for the N9
14:24.03MohammadAGhiemanshu, yeah, already have it
14:24.19artemmaXMS for N9 is just for text messages for now
14:24.19jreznikwhat's so special on whatsapp when we finally have jabber?
14:24.22MohammadAG<3 open mode
14:24.30artemmamore or less just lke yet another messaging net
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14:24.54artemmajreznik: what's special about WhatsApp is marketing :D
14:25.03artemmapeople don't buy jabber if nobody sells it
14:25.09artemmaexcept for geeks certainly
14:25.28hiemanshuMohammadAG: well I am waiting for the Lumia now, WhatsApp on it looks awesome
14:25.59MohammadAGerr, shit /usr/bin/sociality-mtf: Operation not permitted
14:27.58ZogG_laptopthp: i'm too nobie =)
14:27.59ZogG_laptopnoobie
14:29.28ZogG_laptopjreznik: the special that you don't need to add anyone and register username, it's outof box
14:29.38ZogG_laptopgri: oh dear gri
14:30.49ZogG_laptopgri: it's wierd as when i compile it with #include "oauth2data.h" it's fine, while with "oauth1data.h" it's not
14:30.53jreznikZogG_laptop: uf, should try it somewhere, don't understand it at all :)
14:30.56ZogG_laptopsays it can't find it
14:31.36ZogG_laptopjreznik: the point there that you don't need to request anything to add friends, it registers to your number and than it adds people from contact list by number, simple as it
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14:35.39corecodehi
14:36.10corecodewhat's up with these libpurple-based IM accounts?
14:36.39jreznikZogG_laptop: so useless on fremantle/harmattan where you have all contacts in one contact app, could be interesting on other platforms maybe
14:37.08alteregoNice, good news about the first Qt app being accepted to the Apple app store.
14:37.26ZogG_laptopjreznik: you are so wrong as do you have friends with other phones?
14:37.45ZogG_laptopjreznik: would you bother to ask everyone to download jabber client and register it?
14:38.10ZogG_laptopadn than ask one by one what are username and to approve you?
14:38.46ZogG_laptopjreznik: jabber is good when u use jabber on computer and it's just mobile
14:39.05ZogG_laptopthe mobile communication should be planned different
14:39.24CissWitthere's SMS and MMS to IM with contacts.
14:39.31jreznikZogG_laptop: yep, I said - on other platforms maybe, but every phone now have some fb chat (jabber) client - much more easier and all friends there... I don't know anyone using this whatsup/ebuddy clients but 90% of my friends are usually online on fb chat for example
14:40.29ZogG_laptopjreznik: you would be surprised if you install it and find that most of friends do have whatsapp on iphones
14:40.42ZogG_laptopyou don't need to log in on facebook to use it as well
14:40.45ZogG_laptopit's just like sms
14:40.54CissWityes, what's the point over sms ?
14:41.15ZogG_laptopCissWit: sms and mms cost money and whatsapp have more features
14:41.26ZogG_laptopsimple as it
14:41.35ZogG_laptopi have enuf internet plan for whatsapp
14:42.03ZogG_laptopi used to send msg to gf every minute and don't bother to make them even word by word while sms cost me a lot
14:42.14jreznikZogG_laptop: don't want to argue here :) just still don't understand it and iphones are not very populat here so...
14:42.31ZogG_laptopjreznik: it's on android and bb too
14:42.42ZogG_laptopeven not that in computers people use it
14:42.46ZogG_laptopthat's the point
14:42.49ZogG_laptophere everyone use it
14:43.20ZogG_laptopgri: still here?
14:43.55jreznikhere no one, but everyone is on fb chat online :) so I understand you know, it's useless when you have no friends using such network (for me), for you it makes sense
14:44.28CissWiti have a lot of friends using whatsapp, but they are all using gtalk in the same time.
14:44.37CissWitand having unlimited sms
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14:52.47corecodehttp://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=129#c8 <- any idea what post don is refering to?
14:55.13griZogG_laptop: nope, was not here
15:03.29ZogG_laptopgri i have no idea if it works =)
15:04.47ZogG_laptopit complies for sure but not sure if i did it right as i send request, what should i do next? like in oauth there is pin or something
15:27.06jonniblaah creator doesnt like me, even qml console.log doesnt work, or do I need to do some magic to enable it
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15:47.01jonniah nevermind someone has managed to break it on N9 :)
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15:48.02ZogG_laptopdamn
15:48.14ZogG_laptopgot out coz battery is finished
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16:04.15MohammadAGthe fuck ~ $ ./oauthclient
16:04.17MohammadAG-sh: ./oauthclient: Operation not permitted
16:04.18MohammadAG~ $
16:04.18infobotfrom memory, $ is a dollar sign
16:04.29MohammadAGI have --relaxed-exec
16:05.37alteregoHahah
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16:08.37MohammadAGI think DBus or something is borked
16:08.41MohammadAGsome poinstinst isn't returning
16:14.05ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: are you trying to use that oauth from meego?
16:22.07jonniah managed to get console.log after I installed my own msghandler
16:44.31Corsac~aegis-no-thanks
16:44.31infobotaegis-no-thanks is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/
16:45.07faenilguys what can I check when I get "module "..." is not installed" in qml?
16:45.14faenilwho's causing the error?
16:47.55hiemanshufaenil: most likely the imports are missing or the version number isnt correct
16:48.17hiemanshufaenil: is it with qt components or your own module?
16:48.21faenilown module
16:48.30faenilqt components for android actually :)
16:48.35faenilmade by a guy ;)
16:48.35hiemanshuah, interesting
16:48.54hiemanshuits most likely looking at the wrong place or something
16:49.45faenilif you have 2 mins, this is what he writes
16:49.46faenilhttp://groups.google.com/group/android-qt/browse_thread/thread/8a8dad69042a28af
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17:00.36faenilmaybe they're not compatible with Honeycomb?
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18:33.23artemmaQuick question: can somebody confirm that handling streamed audio in Qt for Harmattan is Ok and works fine? No very well known weird bugs? I think I've heard of huge delay when starting to play music in QML, but that's ok if using QML just to ask C++ side to start playback, correct?
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18:45.58jpwhitin`hey all, I've got a weird question that I've seen on forums also, but no solution other than 'reinstall the sdk'
18:46.33jpwhitin`I have a project that works fine on N9 device itself, but if I add a simulator device in creator and try to run in the simulator it gives me an error about Qemu
18:56.13jpwhitin`ah, nm, had to create a new target besides harmattan (Qt simulator) not just add an emulated device
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19:16.16ZogG_laptop~seen mardy
19:16.22infobotmardy is currently on #harmattan #meego, last said: 'djszapi: yes it should be like that'.
19:16.38ZogG_laptophmm
19:16.53ZogG_laptopmardy i would like to have some help with oauth on meego
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19:21.06M4rtinKanyone porting unrar to Harmattan ? :)
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19:34.34ZogG_laptopyou are now
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20:18.13mardyZogG_laptop: hi!
20:18.39Appiah:D
20:20.16mardyZogG_laptop: please tell me, maybe I can help
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21:02.49M4rtinKRzR: I have a few new packages if you are interested :)
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21:07.12RzRyes I was looking at your dir
21:07.16RzRis gtk ok ?
21:07.47M4rtinKnot yet, unfortunately
21:07.56RzRwhere is the major isssue ?
21:08.00M4rtinKstill the same issue
21:08.17RzRunpredictable obs ?
21:08.21M4rtinKbasically
21:08.39RzRi was looking if i can use iodine
21:08.44RzRthe dns tunnel
21:08.48M4rtinKin one project it builds in other (including yours :) ) it doesn't
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21:09.27RzRwe can make some test
21:09.49M4rtinKbut I have a few others - Mieru (a manga and comic book reader I wrote) and two unrar packages (free and nonfree) ported from Debian
21:09.53RzRdisable all packages to be used as builddepends
21:10.11RzRand try to enable them one after one
21:10.26M4rtinKI pretty much done that and it still failed
21:10.35M4rtinKI even did a clean repo
21:10.55RzRis there an exorsist here ?
21:11.02M4rtinKX-Fade ?
21:11.33M4rtinK:)
21:14.35RzRbtw i see that libsdl in nokia repo
21:14.53M4rtinKwell that's quite nice :)
21:15.09RzRwere u able to test a real gtk app ?
21:15.22RzRwe should also port ELF too lol
21:15.42M4rtinKmy GTK based GPS navigation system (modRana) runs fine
21:15.51M4rtinKquite a bit faster than on the N900 :)
21:16.13M4rtinKthanks to the custom Cairo drawn UI
21:16.37M4rtinKbut all GTK widgets are unskinned
21:16.47RzRcool
21:16.50M4rtinKand virtual keyboard is not triggered
21:17.00Sazpaimon_dont default qt apps have the same issue wuth unskinned elements?
21:17.04M4rtinKwhich is quite a showstopper for the N9
21:17.37Sazpaimon_i installed a regular qt app from debian, and it appeared unskinned for me
21:17.44Sazpaimon_vkb worked though
21:18.04RzRI built the tea qt editor
21:18.15RzRbut forget using menu based apps
21:19.02Sazpaimon_thats  a shame it cant be more like hildon
21:19.14Sazpaimon_which seamlessly integrates menus
21:19.16M4rtinKBTW, for all interested, this is the repo with the working GTK libbs for Harmattan: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/MartinK:/gtk/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/
21:19.35M4rtinKwell, for average values of working, as mentioned earlier :)
21:20.00Sazpaimon_RzR, still waiting for a fixed rdesktop with vkb support :(
21:20.17Sazpaimon_why oh why have you forsaken me
21:20.20RzRrdesktop is pretty stuck i think
21:20.27RzRwin8 is not supported
21:20.32M4rtinKonce we have a stable GTK build, we can start porting Hildon :)
21:20.38Sazpaimon_RzR, freerdp, then
21:20.46RzRyes that one is much active
21:20.48Sazpaimon_rdesktop has been dead for quite some time
21:20.54Sazpaimon_im not sure why maemo has it
21:21.06RzRbut i was able to connect to win8
21:21.20Sazpaimon_freerdp is so much better
21:21.25Sazpaimon_and i think it supports pulseaudio
21:21.34Sazpaimon_so we could have audio redirection with it
21:22.03RzRi suppose there are vkb apps  that dont use qt
21:22.10RzRthere are no ..
21:22.54Sazpaimon_i doubt it
21:23.04Sazpaimon_for something like rdesktop, the vkb would need to be implemented in the app itself
21:23.16Sazpaimon_something like how symrdp works
21:23.19alteregoNot entirely true
21:23.26alteregoThe VKB is Maliit
21:23.31alteregoLook in to it.
21:24.17M4rtinKIIRC a recent CloudGPS release added a configurable custom VKB
21:24.32M4rtinK(it is SDL based)
21:24.48RzRi could link w/ qt too
21:25.01RzRpuae uses boths too
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21:45.09ZogG_laptopmardy still around?
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22:34.32Appiahso if I want see if something can compile on harmattan ,  how do I test that? is it setting up a scratchbox?
22:45.02grior QtSDK
22:45.20gribest is to have both :)
22:48.01Venemo_N950hey gri :)
22:49.52grievening Venemo_N950
22:51.16griand also bye, I need sleep :)
22:54.44MohammadAGhow do I run an app as root?
22:54.48MohammadAGI keep getting Failed to connect to remote themedaemon. Retrying in one second.
22:57.22Venemo_N950MohammadAG, devel-su?
22:59.35MohammadAG~ # /opt/auto-caller/bin/auto-caller
22:59.38MohammadAGUsing the meego graphics system
22:59.40MohammadAG"/opt/auto-caller/bin/auto-caller" Failed to connect to remote themedaemon. Retrying in one second.
23:00.19Venemo_N950hm.
23:01.45Venemo_N950maybe the theme daemon runs in userspace?
23:04.28Venemo_N950mmmm
23:04.42Venemo_N950seriously, why does Qt have to be a heap of bugs?????
23:05.15marsjehey, I just got the same error
23:05.23marsjewith drive-qml
23:06.10marsjeI just got my N9 and Drive only worked once
23:06.24marsjemaybe it has to do with enabling development mode
23:07.12Venemo_N950MohammadAG, btw, I was able to do some noticable performanceoptimalizations in my app :)
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23:14.56artemmawhat was the name of API that allowed you to group your net activity with the other apps net activities?
23:29.49artemmaAh! Heartbeat it was!
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