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| 04:07.30 | Sazpaimon_ | hey guys |
| 04:07.32 | Sazpaimon_ | open accuweather |
| 04:07.38 | Sazpaimon_ | and go to lifestyle |
| 04:08.07 | Sazpaimon_ | look at the skiing forecast |
| 04:08.22 | Sazpaimon_ | tell me you see what I see |
| 04:09.59 | Clint | no |
| 04:17.21 | Sazpaimon_ | you obvioulsy do if you could assume what it was |
| 04:27.31 | Clint | i see "Poor" |
| 04:27.44 | Clint | and i assume you wouldn't be saying "hey guys" for that |
| 05:27.03 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: you never run apps as root, you allow the needed actions to that particular app |
| 05:28.52 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: that's what aegis is all about |
| 05:30.04 | DocScrutinizer | even if you _could_ "run as root" any app, this still wouldn't mean the app could do a single thing better than under user account, thanks to aegis. See develsh/develsu |
| 05:31.00 | DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: so the right way is your app requesting for all the tokens/permissions needed, and if those aren't available in OVI you're basically doomed |
| 05:39.06 | DocScrutinizer | on the large picture when your userland app needs to do root things than quite frequently this indicates a poor and faulty architecture of the app. Rather you use proxies aka services running under root, to do root things, and you talk to these services via usually dbus |
| 05:41.57 | Sazpaimon_ | Clint, i was referring to the icon itself |
| 05:42.03 | Sazpaimon_ | sorry i didnt specify |
| 05:42.44 | DocScrutinizer | either dbus, or - occasionally - via system() and help of sudoers, or you got a library stub include that hides away the implementation completely from your code, or whatever |
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| 05:47.47 | DocScrutinizer | or, the aegis way, you find out which tokens any account (root too) would need to do that "rogue" task you plan to do, and request then via manifest, and possibly need an aegis-exec or whatever to actually allow the permissions associated with the tokens to the app |
| 05:48.34 | DocScrutinizer | ~useless |
| 05:48.34 | infobot | ACTION starts crying and hides from docscrutinizer in the darkest corner of the room. :( |
| 06:16.48 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon_: i have meecast only =) |
| 06:37.06 | mardy | ZogG_laptop: 'morning, now I'm around :-) |
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| 06:42.25 | Teo` | so I just woke up and found a huge and spreading cluster of dead pixels on my N950 |
| 06:42.42 | Teo` | do you guys know if the display is serviceable, can you even buy a replacement anywhere? |
| 06:45.11 | SpeedEvil | No, return for replacement |
| 06:45.22 | SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: recently went through that, and a ouple of others |
| 06:45.44 | Teo` | SpeedEvil: what do I do, contact Quim about it? |
| 06:45.53 | SpeedEvil | I don't recall. |
| 06:46.08 | SpeedEvil | Sorry, not had to do that, fortunately. |
| 06:46.51 | Teo` | right, thanks anyway |
| 06:46.57 | Teo` | hope somebody who had sees this |
| 06:49.17 | SpeedEvil | This is a really quiet time of day on this channel. |
| 06:49.43 | SpeedEvil | Only the very early birfd are awake in europe, and those on the west oast of the US have largely gone to bed |
| 06:50.05 | Teo` | right |
| 06:54.33 | qronic | Had it installed before flashing, now can't remember how to install "file" utility. What package contains it? |
| 07:01.34 | hiemanshu | Teo`: email DDP |
| 07:04.07 | Teo` | hiemanshu: DDP.program@nokia.com? |
| 07:04.17 | hiemanshu | Teo`: yes that one |
| 07:04.33 | Teo` | hiemanshu: ok thanks |
| 07:04.44 | Teo` | you think they'll replace it even though I've had it for a few months? |
| 07:07.14 | hiemanshu | yes, I am sending in mine for a replacement soon-ish |
| 07:08.40 | Teo` | ok |
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| 07:51.53 | mardy | ff5choco |
| 07:52.02 | mardy | oops! |
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| 08:22.16 | Teo` | hiemanshu: SpeedEvil: btw this is what popped up on my N950 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6631774/N950replacement/n950.jpeg |
| 08:22.30 | Teo` | and it seems to be spreading ;_; |
| 08:22.37 | SpeedEvil | Interesting |
| 08:23.20 | SpeedEvil | I recall hiemanshu's (?) image looking quite similar, but with the defect about the same distance up from the 'bottom' of the screen. |
| 08:23.56 | hiemanshu | Teo`: exactly same situtation as mine :P |
| 08:24.21 | Teo` | hiemanshu: did you do anything? mine just happened overnight |
| 08:24.30 | SpeedEvil | Coincidentally? Both defects look exactly over the hinges. |
| 08:24.51 | Teo` | SpeedEvil: you think it might be mechanical? |
| 08:25.00 | hiemanshu | Teo`: same here :P |
| 08:25.03 | SpeedEvil | Teo`: Yes |
| 08:25.05 | Teo` | maybe that's what they were referring to when they said the device was beta quality |
| 08:25.22 | SpeedEvil | Perhaps |
| 08:25.28 | Teo` | cause I sure didn't abuse it, got two N810 in perfect working order here |
| 08:26.01 | SpeedEvil | Could be anything, from it being compressed in a pocket, to assembly defets |
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| 08:26.14 | Teo` | :-/ |
| 08:26.29 | Teo` | I'd rule out pocket compression, I wear true geek size baggy pants :D |
| 08:27.03 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 08:27.06 | Teo` | the weather was especially cold though, maybe that could have done something |
| 08:27.12 | SpeedEvil | Maybe |
| 08:27.23 | Teo` | above 0°C but it was a sudden drop in temperature |
| 08:27.43 | SpeedEvil | looks at the thermometer reading 5C. |
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| 10:29.23 | gri | frals: did nokia "steal" your idea? :) |
| 10:29.35 | gri | ups, not you :P |
| 10:47.41 | RST38h | Moo all |
| 10:47.49 | SpeedEvil | oom |
| 10:47.58 | gri | hmm, that "MeeScan" installs on the n9 here but not on the n950 |
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| 11:08.24 | lardman | gri: have you got an old version of mBarcode installed? |
| 11:08.37 | lardman | as the naming of libdmtx conflicts with what I was using |
| 11:08.51 | gri | not that I know of |
| 11:09.09 | lardman | Try installing from the terminal, shame Ovi gives such poor error messages |
| 11:09.23 | gri | how to install ovi packages from terminal? :) |
| 11:09.29 | lardman | I got something along the lines of "failed download" when in fact it was more like "won't install as a package conflicts" |
| 11:09.47 | gri | yeah, I had the conflicts first time, then "failed download" |
| 11:09.48 | lardman | gri: devel-su; apt-get install meescan |
| 11:10.12 | lardman | worked for me anyway, and made me think that perhaps there is still a place for mBarcode |
| 11:10.35 | gri | does not work, ovi is not a repository "package meescan can not be found" |
| 11:11.36 | lardman | hmm, no idea then, I certainly didn't set Ovi up manually |
| 11:11.43 | gri | mBarcode on the n900 was much faster than this app :) |
| 11:11.50 | lardman | gri: wait until the weekend and I'll give you a working version of mBarcode |
| 11:12.03 | lardman | gri: at decoding? |
| 11:12.18 | lardman | I think the frame size is probably larger and it's being fed to the same decoders |
| 11:12.24 | lardman | so it takes longer |
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| 11:12.50 | lardman | ZXing is quick though and that's what I'm using, though I'll need to do some coding on that as it's an incomplete port |
| 11:12.52 | gri | well I did not scan anything yet |
| 11:12.58 | gri | but the camera in the app is slow |
| 11:13.09 | gri | and I had to click five times on the menu button that it actually appears |
| 11:13.14 | lardman | on the N900 startup was quite slow too |
| 11:14.04 | lardman | thinks that there's nothing like the motivation of a competing app :) |
| 11:14.25 | auenf | definately |
| 11:14.35 | gri | I removed mine after 10 hours from ovi store :/ |
| 11:15.01 | lardman | yeah I've not even considered the Ovi store hoops, perhaps a dev only package |
| 11:15.18 | auenf | was it 10 hours from when you put in the request to remove, or when it actually dissapeared from the store? |
| 11:15.55 | gri | auenf: 10 hours until I put the request to remove it (saturday), it actually got removed yesterday at noon time |
| 11:16.19 | gri | 144 people have downloaded a broken package |
| 11:16.21 | auenf | so you requested it to be removed before i got my n9 |
| 11:16.44 | auenf | and i had downloaded it before it got removed :P |
| 11:17.59 | auenf | err, yesterday at noon being monday or tuesday? |
| 11:18.17 | gri | about 24h ago |
| 11:18.23 | gri | so here this is monday noontime |
| 11:19.07 | auenf | ok, so removed next working day from the request |
| 11:19.13 | gri | I wonder how long it takes them to publish the fixed version (actually 2 lines of code changed), got no reply from qa staff yet |
| 11:20.35 | gri | the communication with the qa team is a bit annoying since they are in canada and therefore reply to emails when it's early in the morning here :) |
| 11:21.45 | auenf | they are probably still asleep atm |
| 11:21.58 | auenf | so hopefully they'll sort it out today |
| 11:22.05 | gri | yeah, they start working when it's 19:00 here |
| 11:22.17 | ArkanoiD_ | Is there _working_ tool to manage quick launch bar? |
| 11:22.49 | auenf | which one isnt working? |
| 11:24.29 | auenf | shortcuts is working? |
| 11:24.36 | auenf | altho no PR1.1 for me yet |
| 11:27.13 | gri | What is /var/log/pasms.log and pareplysms.log? |
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| 11:29.04 | auenf | my pareplysms.log is still at the firmware date cause i havent sent an sms yet |
| 11:29.23 | auenf | and only contains a newline |
| 11:29.41 | gri | yeah, both are 19 oct here |
| 11:29.50 | gri | (n950) |
| 11:30.01 | auenf | 1 sep |
| 11:30.49 | hiemanshu | 1 Oct and 1 Aug for me |
| 11:32.25 | auenf | hmm, 'PhoneActivation' |
| 11:33.02 | auenf | some MyNokia thing |
| 11:36.37 | auenf | [2011-12-20T21:21:35] void PhoneActivation::subscribe(CherrySmsEngine::SignupInfo, QString): |
| 11:36.37 | auenf | [2011-12-20T21:21:35] void PhoneActivation::smsSendFinished(bool, QString): success = "[1mtrue[0;39m" |
| 11:38.02 | gri | I don't have these lines |
| 11:38.14 | auenf | there is a phone number listed |
| 11:38.22 | gri | http://pastebin.com/WaiSP9KB |
| 11:38.26 | auenf | which is the local MyNokia mobile number according to google |
| 11:38.43 | gri | seems I did not activate :) |
| 11:39.07 | MohammadAG | Call it, see what happens |
| 11:39.08 | auenf | http://pastebin.com/tQ87hThF |
| 11:39.43 | MohammadAG | You have reached Nokia HQ, your phone will self destruct in 3, 2... |
| 11:40.28 | gri | auenf: CherrySms::*? CherrySMS is an online sms service |
| 11:40.45 | auenf | rofl, first entry is 2011-01-01 |
| 11:40.51 | auenf | sif this phone was working then :P |
| 11:41.19 | auenf | at least it wont cost me 25c if it used cherrysms then :P |
| 11:43.07 | auenf | PR1.2 on n900 had a similar thing |
| 11:43.49 | auenf | http://wiki.maemo.org/PR1.2_compulsory_My_Nokia_subscription |
| 11:45.23 | SpeedEvil | notes the 'response' entirley omits mention of the UK premium rate regulations, which it breaches. |
| 11:45.54 | auenf | premium rate? |
| 11:46.14 | gri | LOL |
| 11:46.20 | gri | got reply from ovi store |
| 11:46.22 | gri | QA failed |
| 11:46.25 | gri | for the same package as before |
| 11:46.30 | SpeedEvil | The SMS is a premium rate one (in the UK) within the definitions. |
| 11:46.37 | gri | I am only allowed to install to /opt/ |
| 11:46.45 | gri | well, how to install accounts files then? |
| 11:46.49 | auenf | what causes it to be a premium rate sms? |
| 11:47.14 | SpeedEvil | auenf: The number it's sent to |
| 11:47.40 | auenf | its not a standard mobile number for uk? |
| 11:48.15 | auenf | and it seems it will use cherry anyway, so no sms cost to user, but data cost to user tho |
| 11:48.23 | SpeedEvil | No, it's not |
| 11:48.44 | auenf | standard mobile number in au |
| 11:48.47 | SpeedEvil | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10506 |
| 11:48.49 | povbot | Bug 10506: 'My nokia' unsubscribe attempt costs money. This is in breach of the UK regulations on premium rate texts. |
| 11:49.15 | MohammadAG | gri: I am only allowed to install to /opt/ |
| 11:49.21 | MohammadAG | The fuck |
| 11:49.32 | gri | MohammadAG: they accepted the same package on friday |
| 11:49.37 | gri | I only commented out two lines |
| 11:49.37 | auenf | ahh, unsubscribe costs premium |
| 11:49.40 | MohammadAG | /opt is under / |
| 11:50.12 | gri | MohammadAG: funny thing is, they complain I copied files to /usr/lib/AccountSetup and /usr/lib/qt4/imports/ and /usr/share/l10n |
| 11:50.22 | MohammadAG | There is no optification concept on harmattan |
| 11:50.24 | leinir | gri: i didn't even update my package and it got declined (multiple instances of the app, got around it, but bleh, it's a feature you nunce :P ) |
| 11:50.48 | auenf | different QA people are reading different QA checklists? |
| 11:51.02 | gri | there's no way of installing to other dirs |
| 11:51.11 | MohammadAG | That's the fremantle qa |
| 11:51.14 | gri | /usr/share/l10n is required for MLocale |
| 11:51.30 | gri | /usr/lib/AccountSetup is required to show up something in "Accounts" |
| 11:51.45 | gri | /usr/lib/qt4/imports is required to install qml plugins |
| 11:52.07 | MohammadAG | Did you figure out how to make an AccountsSetup bin? |
| 11:52.22 | gri | well I made mine in qml |
| 11:52.26 | X-Fade | gri: Install in opt, symlink from / ? |
| 11:52.43 | X-Fade | gri: Not sure if they like that though |
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| 11:52.57 | gri | X-Fade: it's just why did they accept it before then? |
| 11:53.10 | X-Fade | gri: Don't ask me :) |
| 11:53.11 | auenf | X-Fade, technically it would still be writing outside /opt/ :P |
| 11:53.31 | MohammadAG | Resend the pkg |
| 11:53.32 | auenf | <gri> X-Fade: it's just why did they accept it before then? <-- <auenf> different QA people are reading different QA checklists? |
| 11:53.44 | X-Fade | I wonder if it is a 'using storage space' requirement or more 'make a mess' one. |
| 11:53.49 | gri | yeah, they sent me this: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Essential_concepts_for_Harmattan_developers_Data_storage_List_of_path_name_exceptions.html |
| 11:54.27 | gri | there are a few paths missing in their list |
| 11:58.16 | ArkanoiD_ | auenf, no, shortcuts isn't. it says it should appear in settings/applications menu -- it does not, and when i run it manually, it does not save anything i drag onto the shortcuts bar |
| 11:59.00 | auenf | save as in close shortcuts app, or only after a reboot? |
| 12:05.37 | ArkanoiD_ | neither works |
| 12:05.50 | auenf | PR1.0 or 1.1 ? |
| 12:05.57 | ArkanoiD_ | 1.1 |
| 12:06.39 | auenf | its working fine for me on PR1.0 |
| 12:10.05 | auenf | 0.1.8 |
| 12:20.11 | auenf | ArkanoiD_: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80019 |
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| 12:36.35 | ArkanoiD_ | thanks, at least manual repair did help |
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| 13:58.26 | divan | Guys, is it possible to install Nemo or Harmattan on Lumia 800 at this moment? |
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| 13:59.13 | deram | afaik completely different hardware |
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| 14:51.28 | miroslav | Should be easier to get working than WP7 :-) |
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| 15:14.09 | corecode | hi |
| 15:14.34 | corecode | am i doing something wrong? i can't seem to be able to set my sender name for imap/smtp accounts |
| 15:14.47 | corecode | it always just puts my mail address there |
| 15:15.52 | MohammadAG | did unseal.ko ever work on beta2? |
| 15:17.58 | deram | corecode: same problem on me, desided not to search solution further, since my email address has my name in it |
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| 15:18.23 | corecode | mine doesn't |
| 15:18.44 | Richlv | what was that problem about forgetting passwords ? one n9 here with PR 1.1 seems to ask for twitter password whenever it reconnects to wifi... is that some bugreport already addresses ? |
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| 15:44.21 | jonni | Richlv: yes known but which is fixed in future PR release. |
| 15:44.31 | jonni | s/but/bug/ |
| 15:48.04 | Richlv | jonni, ok, so it doesn't happen only after a reboot, right ? |
| 15:49.32 | jonni | happens everytime you roam |
| 15:50.04 | jonni | ie switch between 2g/3g vs wifi |
| 15:59.32 | jonni | gri: if you have qml plugin only for your app, you can also install it under /opt/ as /usr/lib/qt4/imports is only needed for global plugins |
| 16:00.38 | gri | jonni: and how to load it then? what's wrong with making it global? |
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| 16:02.45 | jonni | load them just normally with import, so there is qml plugin searchpatch, by default it looks from . && /usr/lib/qt4/imports, like if your app is /opt/foobar/bin/foobar, it automaticly searches /opt/foobar/bin/imports |
| 16:03.50 | jonni | (you can use strace to see what paths is automaticly searched) |
| 16:03.51 | gri | problem is that parts of my program are in /usr/lib/AccountSetup, the other part is in /opt/web2sms |
| 16:04.13 | gri | so I'd have to set them by hand in my code I guess |
| 16:04.57 | jonni | gri: they only check whats inside the dep, just make everything to install in /opt/web2sms, and when app starts just generated the needed stuff into accountsetup dir on the fly ;-) |
| 16:05.07 | jonni | s/dep/deb/ |
| 16:05.46 | jonni | generated=generate |
| 16:07.23 | gri | jonni: but that's stupid when I start to generate files where no one knows where they come from |
| 16:07.36 | gri | there are also other packages from ovi that do no install to /opt |
| 16:07.46 | gri | it really must depend on the tester |
| 16:08.14 | jonni | but in reality reason behind requiring apps to install to /opt/ is that same deb needs to work in pr1.0, pr1.1 and pr1.1.1 images, and thats why nothing is allowed in system dirs, since it causes bricks very easily :) |
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| 16:08.43 | gri | but there is a list of exceptions |
| 16:08.50 | gri | it's just missing the account stuff paths |
| 16:09.53 | jonni | well yes, for that you might need to contact ovi qa support and ask if they can ask another excemption path, (or just kludge around it by generating files on the fly, although that is bad bad(tm)) :) |
| 16:10.07 | jonni | s/ask/add/ |
| 16:10.14 | jonni | blaah I cannot type right today |
| 16:10.34 | jonni | blaah and searchreplaced wrong word :) |
| 16:13.27 | gri | jonni: I already wrote them their list is incomplete |
| 16:13.34 | gri | let's see what they reply :) |
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| 16:42.26 | gri | It's cool to have a amazon warehouse 20km from here: Ordered something yesterday at 23:40 by standard mail and got it today at 10:30 :) |
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| 18:58.08 | RzR | is about to install kde experimental debian packages |
| 19:05.29 | matrixx | cool! |
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| 19:21.11 | ZogG_laptop | mardy: i'll stalk you till we talk =) |
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| 20:02.58 | gri | ZogG_laptop: maybe you have to clarify your question that he replies :) |
| 20:08.51 | lizardo | gri, did you manage to convince nokia store QA about the accounts plugin path ? I was willing to implement an account plugin, but if it blocks QA, I'd rather store credentials on the app :( |
| 20:08.56 | lizardo | at least for the first version |
| 20:09.39 | gri | lizardo: They told they ask back the meego team if these paths are ok and then notify me what they said |
| 20:10.26 | lizardo | gri, it would be nice if we can get people in touch to update the documentation as well |
| 20:10.45 | lizardo | gri, so they can't use it as evidence to QA fails :) |
| 20:10.55 | gri | I think they will do this if the meego team says these paths are ok |
| 20:11.29 | gri | atleast I hope so :) |
| 20:11.40 | MohammadAG | NOOOOO http://www.dhl.com/content/g0/en/express/tracking.shtml?brand=DHL&AWB=6936258346%0D%0A |
| 20:11.41 | MohammadAG | they actually returned it |
| 20:11.41 | MohammadAG | cries |
| 20:11.41 | MohammadAG | /cc DocScrutinizer |
| 20:12.13 | gri | MohammadAG: I thought you had your n950? |
| 20:12.53 | ieatlint | now that's a happy chanukah, MohammadAG :P |
| 20:13.11 | lizardo | MohammadAG, it seems to have been bounced a lot next to the destination :| |
| 20:13.13 | MohammadAG | gri, that's the second one |
| 20:13.24 | MohammadAG | basically I was sent three N950s |
| 20:13.41 | MohammadAG | First in August, second is that, third is with me |
| 20:13.59 | MohammadAG | basically, that's probably javispedro's replacement :P |
| 20:14.00 | lizardo | MohammadAG, HW issues ? |
| 20:14.38 | gri | MohammadAG: Next time send it to someone outside of isreal and let him/her take it to you :) |
| 20:14.57 | MohammadAG | lizardo, first one? overheating |
| 20:15.00 | lizardo | MohammadAG, mine has the keyboard backlight blinking , but I 'ill not dare to sent it back, it was sooo difficult to get here :) |
| 20:15.03 | ieatlint | oh yeah, send it to me, i'll totally come to .il to give it to you, honest |
| 20:15.18 | MohammadAG | gri, too late, heya lumia |
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| 20:17.17 | ZogG_laptop | gri: he ones that coded signon |
| 20:17.55 | gri | ZogG_laptop: I know but as everyone don't expect him to know every line of code he has written more than a year ago |
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| 20:26.23 | MohammadAG | wow |
| 20:26.34 | MohammadAG | a game that originated on Symbian is a top app on the apple app store |
| 20:27.00 | MohammadAG | it seems like the same code base + touch support, it has the same res (pixelated) |
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| 21:46.50 | rm_work | i think the backlight on my n950 keyboard stopped working |
| 21:46.53 | rm_work | or never worked] |
| 21:46.57 | rm_work | i'm not really sure |
| 21:47.04 | daniel_o | :D |
| 21:47.07 | rm_work | i just noticed last night that I couldn't see anything T_T |
| 21:47.36 | daniel_o | hrhrhr |
| 21:48.06 | rm_work | is there a command to test the backlight? |
| 21:48.10 | rm_work | just force it to turn on? |
| 21:48.52 | GeneralAntilles | rm_work, it seems buggy. |
| 21:49.02 | rm_work | hrm |
| 21:49.37 | rm_work | i'd work on fixing it |
| 21:49.45 | rm_work | but only maybe 20 people in the entire world would ever notice |
| 21:49.49 | rm_work | <_< |
| 21:49.58 | rm_work | my motivation dwindles |
| 21:50.11 | gri | mine also does not work sometimes |
| 21:50.17 | gri | reboot helps most times |
| 21:51.16 | GeneralAntilles | Mine sometimes turns on only half of the backlight, too. |
| 21:51.25 | rm_work | lol |
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| 21:53.27 | RzR | same here |
| 21:53.41 | RzR | i just open it |
| 21:53.55 | RzR | and the light is ok now |
| 21:55.04 | rm_work | hrm |
| 21:56.11 | RzR | the powersupply is not plugged now |
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| 22:30.49 | MohammadAG | thp: Download jetpack joyride |
| 22:30.58 | MohammadAG | On your iPod, tbh if theres a game to mimic its that |
| 22:32.40 | RzR | damit http://status.net/2011/12/20/identi-ca-down |
| 22:35.08 | ajalkane | RzR: this might be a stupid question, but why does that guy look happy even as the news seem kinda bummer? |
| 22:36.00 | mgedmin | "opportunity to move to a new data center yay!" |
| 22:36.24 | RzR | when there is nothing you can just smile and hope noone will notice there is something wrong :-) |
| 22:36.32 | mgedmin | I liked how there was going to be scheduled downtime on Thursday, that was canceled, but now we've got some unscheduled downtime instead |
| 22:37.02 | ieatlint | it's always a good idea to make infrastructure changes without proper planning in order to take advantage of your other failures |
| 22:37.35 | ajalkane | Cool. Finding the silver lining in face of critical failures. Something I must learn |
| 22:38.04 | RzR | i am not a statusnet expert but a true decentralised system should be able to fix itself |
| 22:38.48 | ieatlint | there's a reason why sr sysadmins for major sites make $100-150k/year |
| 22:39.37 | ieatlint | although in this case it may have been a dba |
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