| 00:00.17 | itsnotabigtruck | so in theory joikuspot should work in puerto rico |
| 00:00.22 | admiral0 | just curious |
| 00:00.34 | ieatlint | meh, still not worth going to PR |
| 00:00.38 | admiral0 | would anyone be interested in a web ui for meego? |
| 00:01.02 | ieatlint | itsnotabigtruck: if you get it working well, i'll be interested though :) |
| 00:06.46 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: erm, it seems lpsmagic hasn't started yet after rebooting a few mins ago |
| 00:06.53 | itsnotabigtruck | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.55 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: did it start? |
| 00:09.59 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: nope |
| 00:10.11 | admiral0 | hmm |
| 00:10.19 | admiral0 | see if it runs |
| 00:10.25 | admiral0 | ps aux| grep lps |
| 00:10.27 | itsnotabigtruck | nope |
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| 00:11.52 | admiral0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.43 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: started it? |
| 00:14.37 | itsnotabigtruck | heh, didn't realize i could just run it |
| 00:14.52 | itsnotabigtruck | thought it required restarting x or something |
| 00:14.54 | itsnotabigtruck | https://crypty.ch/p/wAv3Vmf6#1e0deae0330a27c0fed9d794e2395238 |
| 00:14.56 | itsnotabigtruck | well that's peculiar |
| 00:15.19 | admiral0 | apt-get install python-gconf |
| 00:15.21 | itsnotabigtruck | it looks like somehow i lost python-gconf |
| 00:15.57 | admiral0 | fffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 00:15.58 | admiral0 | my fault |
| 00:16.13 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, did you drop the dependency accidentally? |
| 00:16.18 | itsnotabigtruck | must have been autoremoved then |
| 00:16.21 | admiral0 | yep |
| 00:16.31 | itsnotabigtruck | i should have used dpkg and apt, which would have told me |
| 00:16.36 | itsnotabigtruck | i gave pkgmgr install-file a try |
| 00:16.42 | itsnotabigtruck | which doesn't offer any info about what's going on really |
| 00:20.58 | admiral0 | solved |
| 00:21.01 | admiral0 | redownload |
| 00:26.15 | admiral0 | itsnotabigtruck: would you like something like this https://market.android.com/details?id=net.xdevelop.rm&feature=related_apps |
| 00:26.17 | admiral0 | ? |
| 00:28.02 | itsnotabigtruck | admiral0: hmm |
| 00:28.09 | itsnotabigtruck | that's...strange |
| 00:28.43 | itsnotabigtruck | could be useful but there's other ways to do most things that does |
| 00:34.53 | admiral0 | i'd do the sms and contacts part |
| 00:35.09 | admiral0 | so linux people don't need nokia crap suite |
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| 00:42.34 | admiral0 | nite |
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| 01:04.01 | ieatlint | is it possible to convert a string to an id in qml? |
| 01:04.38 | ieatlint | by that, i mean i have a string in a variable that contains the name of a component |
| 01:04.54 | ieatlint | and i want to be able to use that string to reference that component |
| 01:11.27 | ieatlint | meh, just created a js function with a series of if/else statements that returns the right component |
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| 01:39.53 | itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: since it's javascript it ought to be possible, i thin |
| 01:40.08 | itsnotabigtruck | what if you try eval'ing it (of course don't do that with arbitrary values) |
| 01:41.06 | ieatlint | yep, that works... better than the js function solution :) |
| 01:41.56 | ieatlint | and i'm pulling in the data from a json source that is trusted and well formed |
| 01:42.30 | beford | I think I read somwhere how to remove the bottom bar from Qt apps http://beford.org/ole/20120130202915.png |
| 01:42.51 | beford | anybody knows it ? :) |
| 01:43.17 | ieatlint | only way i know is to switch from qapplication to mapplication |
| 01:43.52 | ieatlint | also, wrong domain for your link or your dns is broke (or, mine is :) |
| 01:44.10 | beford | must be yours |
| 01:44.18 | beford | :p |
| 01:44.19 | ieatlint | and just now started working... lagged |
| 01:44.36 | ieatlint | i think chromium has a shorter dns timeout than the host command |
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| 02:27.38 | Iktwo | Hi, I'm trying to make an app that vibrates using QFeedbackHapticsEffect, the app works when I run it trough QtCreator, but not when I run it on the device as a normal user |
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| 02:27.55 | Iktwo | could someone help please? |
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| 02:32.36 | itsnotabigtruck | Iktwo: maybe there's an aegis privilege you need to assert? |
| 02:40.18 | Iktwo | itsnotabigtruck: thanks, I have found the problem, but haven't fixed it, if I launch with Exec=/usr/bin/invoker --type=d -s /opt/outgoingvibro/bin/outgoingvibro it doesn't work, but If I do just Exec=/opt/outgoingvibro/bin/outgoingvibro it works but then I can't set a single instance and a splash screen |
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| 03:29.48 | djszapi | Iktwo: what do you mean by "does not work" ? |
| 03:30.01 | Iktwo | it doesn't vibrate |
| 03:30.23 | Iktwo | if I run it with the full path it works |
| 03:30.34 | Iktwo | if I run it with invoker it doesn't |
| 03:30.48 | djszapi | Iktwo: have you tried different type ? |
| 03:31.10 | Iktwo | type? no |
| 03:31.13 | djszapi | is there anything on the console if you use the invoker command from there ? |
| 03:32.15 | Iktwo | no, there's a bug in the constructor of QFeedbackHapticsEffect it deactivates the debug output |
| 03:32.22 | Iktwo | so when I run my app I see nothing |
| 03:32.29 | Iktwo | even if there's an error |
| 03:32.41 | Iktwo | what type can I test? |
| 03:32.47 | Iktwo | I always use the default |
| 03:32.49 | Iktwo | type=d |
| 03:35.27 | djszapi | I use 'e' at least. |
| 03:36.03 | Iktwo | OMG it works if I use e |
| 03:36.29 | Iktwo | I tought I was not going to find the problem |
| 03:36.35 | Iktwo | thanks djszapi |
| 03:36.55 | djszapi | glad to see you happy :) |
| 03:38.34 | Iktwo | and what's that type about? |
| 03:39.56 | djszapi | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.56 | djszapi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:40.10 | djszapi | and it seems you wanna have splashscreen, right ? |
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| 03:43.46 | Iktwo | yes |
| 03:44.06 | Iktwo | it's funny just a letter in my icon fix the problem |
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| 03:54.17 | djszapi | Iktwo: in your icon ? |
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| 04:01.55 | Iktwo | djszapi yeah the launcher the .desktop |
| 04:03.57 | djszapi | ah you mean the desktop file, not the icon. |
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| 04:35.39 | Sazpaimon | trying to port lightspark to harmattan |
| 04:36.00 | Sazpaimon | getting a GL error 1282 during initialization |
| 04:37.01 | Sazpaimon | the relevant code is at https://raw.github.com/lightspark/lightspark/master/src/backends/rendering.cpp in RenderThread::commonGLInit |
| 04:37.11 | djszapi | have you tried to debug the gl error ? |
| 04:38.05 | Sazpaimon | 1282 is GL_INVALID_OPERATION iirc |
| 04:38.23 | Sazpaimon | its not exactly an informative error |
| 04:38.37 | djszapi | which is the invalid one ? |
| 04:38.44 | djszapi | maybe you mess up gl and gles ? |
| 04:38.51 | Sazpaimon | nah, its using gles |
| 04:39.08 | Sazpaimon | i guess I need to step function-by-function and see when the error shows up.. |
| 04:39.19 | djszapi | yes, of course. |
| 04:39.27 | djszapi | you need to localize what is an invalid operation. |
| 04:39.33 | djszapi | and then see why. |
| 04:50.51 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: I wonder if you have the time and sake (so the passion :) to test my app again. |
| 04:51.34 | Sazpaimon | yeah I can |
| 04:51.42 | Sazpaimon | i just need to do it alongside figuring out what is erroring out here |
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| 05:04.13 | itsnotabigtruck | awesome, one of my VPSes completely exploded :/ |
| 05:05.08 | RST38h | A video? |
| 05:06.02 | djszapi | RST38h: the video recorded exploded, too. :) |
| 05:15.28 | Sazpaimon | djszapi, looks like the first 1280 error comes from the glUseProgram call |
| 05:15.43 | Sazpaimon | maybe its being called too early... |
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| 05:15.55 | Sazpaimon | sorry, 1282 |
| 05:34.29 | Sazpaimon | something tells me the shaders wont work for harmattan |
| 05:34.43 | djszapi | they do |
| 05:34.46 | djszapi | qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:88:17: QML Slider: Binding loop detected for property "value" |
| 05:34.49 | djszapi | qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:139:17: QML Switch: Binding loop detected for property "checked" |
| 05:35.14 | Sazpaimon | djszapi, i was referring to the program Im compiling |
| 05:35.40 | djszapi | anybody an idea for this ? Seems a good logic to me: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml#L88 |
| 05:36.21 | djszapi | long story short: A property bound up to B, but if A changes I would like to assign that to B. |
| 05:36.28 | djszapi | what is wrong about it ? |
| 05:36.39 | djszapi | it is like having a slider and spinbox, and get them sync'ed up in C++. |
| 05:37.26 | Sazpaimon | hmm |
| 05:37.28 | Sazpaimon | no idea |
| 05:37.38 | djszapi | what is the qml way of implementing this logic ? |
| 05:38.28 | djszapi | and even the logic works fine, and if I try to remove the binding loop, the program keeps non-working. |
| 05:38.28 | Sazpaimon | my qml isnt very good |
| 05:41.31 | vladest | would use: kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds = !kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds; on line 145 |
| 05:41.52 | djszapi | vladest: why would you do that ? |
| 05:42.01 | djszapi | you try to hack around the problem, but what is the problem ? |
| 05:42.05 | djszapi | I do not see the problem |
| 05:42.11 | djszapi | also, that does not work for sliders. |
| 05:42.38 | vladest | djszapi: because I always uses like this :) |
| 05:43.24 | vladest | djszapi: and same for slider |
| 05:43.43 | djszapi | slider is not a boolean variable. |
| 05:43.48 | djszapi | so you cannot use that toggle hack. |
| 05:44.11 | vladest | djszapi: value binds to kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime, on valuse change value set new kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime which set new value because of binding |
| 05:44.42 | djszapi | vladest: it means that it is better to use a property value |
| 05:44.49 | vladest | djszapi: I'm describing issue. |
| 05:45.46 | djszapi | understood and thanks. |
| 05:46.00 | djszapi | but property value is better for sliders |
| 05:46.11 | djszapi | but it is true, I can avoid that with a toggle trickery for the boolean switch |
| 05:46.14 | djszapi | thanks ! |
| 05:46.26 | vladest | djszapi: np |
| 05:47.01 | djszapi | vladest: just for making it clear: using property value is the way, a.k.a. temporary stuff right ? |
| 05:48.12 | djszapi | not even property sorry, just global variable. |
| 05:48.14 | vladest | djszapi: i'm used onPressedChanged istead of onValueChanged in Slider in my app |
| 05:48.44 | vladest | djszapi:dont remember why. may be because of stat stupid endless bibding |
| 05:48.50 | djszapi | vladest: you would need the value for Release though. |
| 05:49.06 | djszapi | well, it is the same issue for any signal. |
| 05:49.26 | djszapi | Pressed does not make sense to me |
| 05:49.37 | djszapi | Released would a lot in comparison with onValueChanged. |
| 05:50.23 | vladest | djszapi: no, for release I've just checking pressed property |
| 05:50.47 | vladest | if (!pressed) bla-bla |
| 05:51.47 | djszapi | not getting you |
| 05:51.59 | djszapi | how could you check against non-pressed inside the pressed handler ? |
| 05:53.16 | djszapi | also, I do not still understand why it is a binding loop honestly. |
| 05:54.00 | djszapi | value binds to kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime, on value change value set new kanagramEngineHelper.hintHideTime which does /not/ set new value |
| 05:54.06 | djszapi | since the value will remain the same. |
| 05:54.25 | djszapi | so why new onValueChanged signal generated, if the value does not change ? |
| 05:54.36 | djszapi | same question for the checked |
| 05:55.13 | djszapi | vladest: ^\ |
| 05:56.36 | vladest | djszapi: its called onPressedChanged |
| 05:56.45 | djszapi | and how would it be any different to "kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds = !kanagramEngineHelper.useSounds;" ? |
| 05:56.58 | djszapi | useSounds changes in this way which would trigger a checked change... |
| 05:57.02 | djszapi | according to /your/ logic. |
| 05:57.08 | vladest | djszapi: it means calling on any change of pressed prop |
| 05:57.11 | djszapi | vladest: but the point is that pressed is not good for it |
| 05:57.16 | djszapi | we actually need the opposite. |
| 05:57.42 | djszapi | as far as I see, there is only bug here |
| 05:57.49 | djszapi | and that is not in my application, but qml or qt |
| 05:57.52 | vladest | its easy: |
| 05:57.55 | vladest | onPressedChanged: { |
| 05:57.56 | vladest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.58 | vladest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.00 | vladest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.01 | vladest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.03 | vladest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.04 | vladest | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:58.08 | djszapi | they should not generate onValueChanged, if the value does not change. |
| 05:58.43 | djszapi | and clearly, itdoes not change |
| 05:58.57 | djszapi | just inside the onValueChanged handler for the other property and no more |
| 05:59.02 | vladest | djszapi: I think you just starting endless sequence that I've described arlier by setting value |
| 05:59.02 | djszapi | will raise a bug against qml/qt |
| 05:59.10 | djszapi | why would I ? |
| 05:59.26 | djszapi | the value does not change just once, right ? |
| 05:59.33 | djszapi | the value of the "value" variable. |
| 06:00.04 | djszapi | vladest: ^ |
| 06:00.31 | vladest | value is a property and it binds to a global property |
| 06:00.40 | djszapi | vladest: you have a hack for the slider and swich, I understand that. Imo, that is not the real fix for the issue. |
| 06:00.57 | djszapi | the real fix if the qml/qt guys fix the signal emit |
| 06:01.00 | vladest | may be. |
| 06:01.04 | djszapi | they should not emit it, if the value does not change. |
| 06:01.55 | djszapi | I will use your workaround, if it works, but we need to raise a bug for this |
| 06:02.16 | vladest | since its double its very inlikely it will not change just because of value drifting |
| 06:02.45 | djszapi | you mean ? |
| 06:03.28 | vladest | is not happy of qml couse its non efficient, slow and non-multiplatform designed |
| 06:05.13 | vladest | but have to use it couse qwidgets are dead and no native alternative |
| 06:05.17 | djszapi | I am still not getting how you could have a non-pressed state in a pressed event handler. |
| 06:06.02 | vladest | djszapi: well. as I said: its signal depends on "pressed" property |
| 06:06.39 | djszapi | I see. |
| 06:06.44 | vladest | this means that signal generate twice: when pressed becomes true and when pressed becomes false., i.e. on any change of pressed |
| 06:06.56 | djszapi | is testing and raising a bug alongside. |
| 06:08.05 | vladest | hates f&*^%^*g winter. -18 outside |
| 06:08.07 | djszapi | vladest: also, your hack will not work for explicit value setting |
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| 06:08.39 | djszapi | the program will just remain silent and hard to debug wrt this |
| 06:09.16 | vladest | djszapi: you mean shitcher or slider? |
| 06:09.39 | djszapi | any |
| 06:09.56 | djszapi | but pressed is okay for slider, so that is the highest priority here. |
| 06:11.33 | djszapi | vladest: also, I am still getting it for obvious reasons: qrc:/MainSettingsPage.qml:143:17: QML Switch: Binding loop detected for property "checked" |
| 06:12.21 | djszapi | look at the C++ side, this issue is not existing for the aforementioned example QSlider and QSpinBox sync'ing. |
| 06:12.39 | djszapi | if you change the value of any of those, you will not get into a loop |
| 06:12.44 | djszapi | it is just a qml bug |
| 06:13.58 | djszapi | I do not personally see a way in qml for solving this issue, if they do not solve it on their own. |
| 06:14.32 | vladest | agreed |
| 06:14.49 | vladest | ok, have to go, sry |
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| 06:30.30 | djszapi | please vote guys for this if you like it: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-23955 |
| 06:36.28 | DocScrutinizer | hmm |
| 06:36.40 | DocScrutinizer | ~weather EDDN |
| 06:36.58 | DocScrutinizer | BRRRRR |
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| 06:54.53 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: for testing: http://files.kde.org/maemo/kanagram_31012012-1_armel.deb |
| 07:13.36 | mardy | ZogG_laptop: pong :-) |
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| 09:05.20 | beford | Hey. does anybody knows how to change the caption of the "Return" key from the QML Keyboard? You can see what I mean in the Ovi Store, Search tab :) |
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| 09:14.32 | djszapi | vladest: They claim it works in qml. It might be a qt-components issue then. https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-23955 |
| 09:14.57 | phako | beford: there's some docs about that but I forgot the location, try to ping mikhas in #qt-qml when he's there. |
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| 09:16.05 | djszapi | beford: what is wrong with the mesinput app ? |
| 09:17.20 | beford | no idea, let me see |
| 09:17.50 | djszapi | if you use that app, you can redefine the whole kbd as you want. |
| 09:17.58 | beford | ohh I see |
| 09:18.14 | djszapi | and it is for free from ovi :p |
| 09:18.24 | rantom | Hmm. I wasn't able to edit my keyboard with MesInput, the Finnish-layout |
| 09:18.42 | beford | but that's not what I need, I mean in my program, instead of showing the default Return key, I would like to show 'Search' , in the same way Ovi Store app does |
| 09:21.15 | djszapi | beford: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/1486 |
| 09:21.24 | vladest | djszapi: voted |
| 09:22.45 | djszapi | vladest: I am not sure it is time to vote yet because it seems to be not a qml bug. :) |
| 09:23.03 | djszapi | it might be a qt-components limitation for that component. |
| 09:26.12 | djszapi | those components* |
| 09:29.44 | djszapi | beford: but the most important question, are you sure you need a custom kbd ? |
| 09:32.35 | beford | djszapi, hehe no, I just need to change the caption for Return button on the Keyboard for an specific TextField :D |
| 09:32.38 | admiral0 | hello people |
| 09:33.13 | rantom | Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it easier to exchange in Terminal between "arrows" and "shell"-commandlayouts (the ones on top of the keyboard) earlier, say, during beta2? |
| 09:33.57 | rantom | I have a faint memory that you could just swipe that section of the screen and it'd exchange to the other one |
| 09:34.12 | rantom | Or slide the keyboard so that you could get page up/down in portrait? |
| 09:36.46 | beford | djszapi, http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g6_D5flg23I/TpXMxnF6tFI/AAAAAAAABhw/mA3MC6RFSQY/s320/2011-10-13_01-20-21.png just like that :P |
| 09:37.41 | djszapi | beford I will ask internally for you. |
| 09:38.22 | djszapi | beford: so you would like to do this change from qml code, or are you fine with C++ code, too ? |
| 09:39.18 | beford | any of them would work for me :D thanks |
| 09:39.26 | djszapi | ok, asking. |
| 09:39.32 | djszapi | will let you know if getting answer. |
| 09:41.37 | beford | thanks, I think it has to be 'easy' maybe I'm not using the right words to search it, Skype app also changes the button to Next when registering an account |
| 09:42.13 | djszapi | it is not about simple |
| 09:42.20 | djszapi | it might be forbidden on will. |
| 09:44.10 | flux | hmm, AFAIK applications can (and should) change the 'return' key to whatever they need in their context. dunno how it's done, though :) |
| 09:45.31 | djszapi | beford: you are out of the luck, mikhas is not in Nokia anymore |
| 09:45.56 | beford | well I'll ask again later :P |
| 09:46.47 | djszapi | https://qt.gitorious.org/~mikhas/qt/mikhas-qt -> heh he is, just with Hasselman, and not Hasselmann, that is weird |
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| 10:01.19 | phako | djszapi: nah, he's there still; could be he's sick |
| 10:04.18 | djszapi | phako: not that, it is just the fact, his name is mistyped. |
| 10:04.30 | phako | ah |
| 10:04.31 | djszapi | beford: btw, the mesinput can do this, so probably possible. |
| 10:05.07 | djszapi | beford: SipAttributes.actionKeyLabel |
| 10:05.08 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt-components/qt-components-meego-sipattributes.html |
| 10:05.38 | phako | also, #maliit should be helpfull |
| 10:10.12 | beford | :D thanks that was it djszapi |
| 10:10.16 | beford | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Using_SipAttributes_in_MeeGo-Harmattan |
| 10:14.27 | djszapi | nifty stuff =)) |
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| 12:39.10 | djszapi | zz_gri: ping |
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| 14:05.01 | djszapi | vladest: ping |
| 14:05.15 | vladest | djszapi: pong |
| 14:05.26 | djszapi | vladest: I have a skeleton stuff which is working |
| 14:05.29 | djszapi | so no clue why it does not work in my app |
| 14:05.56 | djszapi | are you sure this binding loop caused issues for you as well ? |
| 14:06.24 | vladest | well, I can check |
| 14:06.45 | djszapi | vladest: main.cpp http://paste.kde.org/197330/ |
| 14:07.25 | djszapi | bindinglooptestobject.h : http://paste.kde.org/197336/ bindinglooptestobject.cpp: http://paste.kde.org/197342/ |
| 14:07.46 | djszapi | qml stuff: http://paste.kde.org/197348/ |
| 14:09.39 | djszapi | vladest: I only get t he bindingloop issue in the my application with certain properties of my exposed class. If I change for another property, or I make a dumb property int b: 0; and use that, I do not get such a warning |
| 14:10.01 | djszapi | vladest: any clue ? This issue is killing me :/ |
| 14:13.47 | djszapi | vladest: so I get binding loop warning for this slider: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml#L88 |
| 14:14.10 | djszapi | for instance for the "hintHideTime" property. |
| 14:16.34 | vladest | djszapi: just checked with onValueChanged on my own project and no binding loop with local property |
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| 14:17.54 | djszapi | vladest: how about an exposed one ? (You can grab my bindinglooptestobject for that purpose) |
| 14:20.06 | vladest | djszapi: do you have ready project for qtcreator? |
| 14:20.31 | djszapi | no, just cmake based. |
| 14:21.03 | djszapi | I do not use qmake, nor even in the qt-project ;-) |
| 14:21.18 | djszapi | is qtcreator capable of handling cmake ? If yes, then I have. |
| 14:22.02 | vladest | it is |
| 14:23.25 | djszapi | https://filetea.me/t1sc182b -> src |
| 14:23.37 | djszapi | https://filetea.me/t1s13932 -> deb |
| 14:23.48 | djszapi | https://filetea.me/t1s7218d -> dsc |
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| 14:36.48 | vladest | will check at home |
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| 14:38.02 | djszapi | vladest: thanks. |
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| 14:45.36 | djszapi | vladest: but imho, it is better to test the application than the skeleton itself. |
| 14:45.43 | djszapi | since the problem reveals only inside the application. |
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| 15:34.55 | torarne | Q: Anyone got sshfs working on harmattan, to mount a remote filesystem on the device for easy development? |
| 15:37.44 | djszapi | not possible on purpose. |
| 15:38.00 | djszapi | you wanna do the opposite actually |
| 15:38.09 | djszapi | you wanna mount the N9 filesystem on your host for easy "development". |
| 15:42.48 | torarne | djszapi: not really suitable for qml, i don't want to copy files over |
| 15:43.03 | djszapi | you do not need. |
| 15:43.36 | torarne | um, how would that work? |
| 15:44.07 | djszapi | as a normal mount |
| 15:44.13 | djszapi | you mount the filesystem, and the qml files |
| 15:44.16 | djszapi | what is so hard about it ? |
| 15:44.20 | djszapi | edit* |
| 15:44.25 | djszapi | many people do that including me. |
| 15:44.48 | torarne | you keep your sources on the device? |
| 15:45.39 | sp3000 | hasn't tried sshfs in the other direction either, it sounds like work |
| 15:45.59 | djszapi | torarne: yes, what is wrong about it ? |
| 15:46.11 | torarne | djszapi: i don't know where to start |
| 15:46.34 | djszapi | torarne: sshfs root@myn950:/opt/my-cool-app/qml qml |
| 15:46.42 | sp3000 | depends on how much yuour build would write there |
| 15:46.42 | torarne | sp3000: i've built sshfs and fuse inside scratchbox, but getting permissions problems when mounting, even on a device with rd-certs |
| 15:47.02 | torarne | sp3000: mounting nfs mounts on the device works fine |
| 15:47.30 | djszapi | torarne: also, please consider the fact people here mostly have no R&D certificate |
| 15:47.34 | djszapi | so you will not get such advices. |
| 15:47.43 | djszapi | but why not mount on the host ? |
| 15:47.49 | djszapi | why would you do that in scratchbox ? |
| 15:47.50 | torarne | djszapi: i meant, i don't know where to start in describing the many things that are wrong with that |
| 15:48.04 | djszapi | there is not much wrong |
| 15:48.09 | torarne | if you say so |
| 15:48.21 | djszapi | well, then suffer meg :D |
| 15:48.25 | djszapi | meh* |
| 15:48.49 | djszapi | this was my two cents about a way that worked for people so far. |
| 15:49.45 | djszapi | and please add your idea, if better, to the wikipage. We need that. |
| 15:50.37 | djszapi | and doing this in scratchbox sounds really weird. |
| 15:50.55 | sp3000 | it might not be too much trouble setting up something that rsyncs things over on an *notify trigger |
| 15:51.31 | sp3000 | forgets which initial is current |
| 15:51.41 | torarne | :) |
| 15:51.41 | djszapi | sp3000: why rsync instead of just scp -r ? |
| 15:52.12 | djszapi | http://wiki.meego.com/RsyncAndRunShellScript#Rsync_.26_run_your_projects_on_the_device_using_a_shell_script -> here is the rsync fwiw. |
| 15:52.18 | alterego | sp3000: inotify ;) |
| 15:53.05 | alterego | torarne: if you've got NFS working fine, why use SSH? Seems NFS is better suited ;) |
| 15:53.06 | torarne | sp3000: nfs mount is working fine except it fails to re-rexport another cifs mount on the remote fs |
| 15:53.06 | torarne | i guess i should just export another nfs to replace the cifs and mount both on the device |
| 15:53.34 | sp3000 | that sounds like a cluster...mount :P |
| 15:53.35 | torarne | alterego: "nfs mount is working fine except it fails to re-rexport another cifs mount on the remote fs" |
| 15:53.40 | torarne | :P |
| 15:53.51 | alterego | torarne: also, I'd be interested in the steps you took to get NFS (hopefully on a non R&D device) |
| 15:54.07 | alterego | to work |
| 15:54.25 | alterego | NFS would be useful for me to mount my home NAS drive :D |
| 15:55.20 | djszapi | alterego: have not checked the qt5 instructions ? |
| 15:55.36 | djszapi | they use nfs as well. |
| 15:55.36 | torarne | alterego: its on a RD-device, but these guys are doing some work to get it working on non-RD-devices: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/SettingUpDevelopmentEnvironmentForN9 (custom kernel) |
| 15:56.10 | alterego | Urgh, custom kernel. |
| 15:56.22 | alterego | Don't want instructions that voids people's warrantys ;) |
| 15:56.22 | torarne | yupp |
| 15:56.45 | alterego | Next solution please :) |
| 15:57.05 | alterego | Doesn't really matter to me, I have my N950 for warranty voiding activities. |
| 15:57.16 | alterego | But I'd rather not do that to my N9 :) |
| 15:57.35 | djszapi | I would, after the warranty is gone before the expired time-limit. |
| 15:57.41 | djszapi | after* |
| 15:57.45 | admiral0 | i'll eventually do that... |
| 15:57.59 | admiral0 | i want iptables mangle |
| 15:58.09 | admiral0 | and nat :P |
| 15:58.59 | alterego | It'd be nice if Nokia included that stuff in the first place, did they not learn anything from kernel power? :) |
| 15:59.28 | alterego | If we don't have iptables how does the wi-fi hotspot work? |
| 15:59.57 | alterego | My N9 has iptables .. |
| 16:00.13 | djszapi | alterego: they do not have nat. |
| 16:00.23 | admiral0 | alterego: iptables -t nat |
| 16:01.00 | admiral0 | and you'll see |
| 16:01.30 | djszapi | how long is the warranty by the way, one, two years or even more ? |
| 16:01.56 | alterego | two years inside EU |
| 16:01.58 | admiral0 | europe=2 years |
| 16:02.07 | djszapi | "Nokia backs up the Nokia N9 with a 1 Year parts & labour warranty." |
| 16:02.07 | alterego | Probably 1 year outside. |
| 16:02.41 | alterego | djszapi: that's probably in Australia or something. |
| 16:02.45 | alterego | In the EU it's 2 years. |
| 16:03.06 | admiral0 | warranty: http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/101/781/Y0UJC.png |
| 16:03.07 | djszapi | http://discussions.europe.nokia.com/t5/Maemo-and-MeeGo-Devices/Nokia-N9-Warranty-UAE-Dubai-Abu-Dhabi-amp-Worldwide/td-p/1212623 |
| 16:03.29 | djszapi | alterego: if I got it in the EU, or if I live inside the EU ? |
| 16:03.51 | djszapi | admiral0: at least your teeth are nicely white :) |
| 16:04.03 | alterego | Both, but if you only bought it in the EU, you'd have to get them to pick it up and ship it to an address in the EU |
| 16:04.27 | djszapi | going into the shop directly. |
| 16:04.37 | djszapi | say, business trip. |
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| 16:06.10 | itsnotabigtruck | does anybody know the warranty terms for latin america |
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| 16:06.23 | itsnotabigtruck | i dug around the nokia latinoamerica website for a while and couldn't find much besides 'look at the slip in the box' |
| 16:06.30 | itsnotabigtruck | and the box happens to be on the other end of the country right now |
| 16:10.44 | itsnotabigtruck | also strange, newegg kicked its n9 cyan price back up to $700 (from $520) |
| 16:10.57 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: eternal warranty =) |
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| 16:26.06 | ZogG_laptop | what can be wrong in this - connect(networkManager, SIGNAL(uploadProgress(qint64,qint64)), this, SLOT(progresscalc(qint64,qint64))); |
| 16:27.08 | djszapi | do you get runtime warning/error ? |
| 16:27.12 | djszapi | or compilation time ? |
| 16:27.57 | ZogG_laptop | can;'t compile =\ |
| 16:28.06 | djszapi | can you show the g++ output ? |
| 16:28.31 | ZogG_laptop | /home/zogg/projects/imgrup-build-harmattan-Harmattan_Target__Qt_SDK__Debug/moc_upload.cpp:87: undefined reference to `Upload::progresscalc(long long, long long)' |
| 16:28.42 | djszapi | it did compile. |
| 16:28.53 | djszapi | it does not link, and what provides this Upload class ? |
| 16:28.55 | djszapi | which library ? |
| 16:29.10 | ZogG_laptop | it's mine |
| 16:29.32 | djszapi | have you linked agaisnt your stuff ? |
| 16:29.47 | ZogG_laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.27 | djszapi | can you show your "full" output and code ? |
| 16:30.49 | djszapi | long long and qint64 mmmh... |
| 16:31.02 | ZogG_laptop | wait |
| 16:31.07 | ZogG_laptop | just a sec |
| 16:31.37 | ZogG_laptop | ok it was me stupid - resolved it =0 |
| 16:32.01 | djszapi | right :) |
| 16:32.01 | ZogG_laptop | but thanks - you gave a clue, forgot to use Upload::progresscalc |
| 16:32.13 | ZogG_laptop | used void progresscal instead =P |
| 16:33.08 | ZogG_laptop | lol still error on runtime |
| 16:33.11 | ZogG_laptop | Object::connect: No such signal QNetworkAccessManager::uploadProgress(qint64,qint64) in ../imgrup/upload.cpp:71 |
| 16:33.29 | ZogG_laptop | do i need to include QnetworkSession ? |
| 16:33.43 | npm | oh happy day! (well i shouldn't count my chickens till the n9 arrives) |
| 16:34.21 | MohammadAG | no ZogG_laptop, there's no such signal |
| 16:34.25 | ZogG_laptop | npm: mazal tov |
| 16:34.33 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: where do you see that signal ? http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/QNetworkAccessManager.html#signals |
| 16:34.49 | ZogG_laptop | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qnetworkreply.html#uploadProgress |
| 16:34.53 | ZogG_laptop | here ^ |
| 16:35.19 | djszapi | that is a different type of class |
| 16:35.25 | djszapi | you used networkManager |
| 16:35.32 | npm | ZogG_laptop: yofi! |
| 16:35.36 | MohammadAG | QNetworkReply != QNetworkAccessManager |
| 16:35.47 | ZogG_laptop | npm: don't say you speak hebrew |
| 16:36.07 | MohammadAG | apparently he does |
| 16:36.22 | npm | i did at my bar-mitzvah, and have relatives i can't understand except when they speak romanian |
| 16:36.23 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: so can i use acessmanager to track the progress? |
| 16:36.36 | ZogG_laptop | npm: lol |
| 16:36.48 | MohammadAG | no, you use QNetworkReply |
| 16:36.55 | MohammadAG | paste the code |
| 16:37.02 | MohammadAG | the one you need to track |
| 16:38.12 | MohammadAG | actually I'll give you an example |
| 16:39.22 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i use access to read reply as well |
| 16:40.01 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, https://gitorious.org/qtbook/qtbook/blobs/master/albumwindow.cpp#line205 |
| 16:40.14 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: does it has post ? |
| 16:40.19 | MohammadAG | that's how you should track progress and read replies |
| 16:40.27 | MohammadAG | see 230 and below |
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| 16:41.22 | djszapi | alterego: do you see anything obviously wrong with this patch technically ? http://paste.xinu.at/W3icH/ |
| 16:41.26 | MohammadAG | huh |
| 16:41.57 | MohammadAG | QNetworkAccessManager::put returns a pointer to a QNetworkReply |
| 16:42.30 | alterego | Does the standard delegate not have any icon? |
| 16:42.44 | djszapi | alterego: oopsie, no need for an argument for that function. |
| 16:43.00 | djszapi | alterego: what do you mean ? |
| 16:43.32 | alterego | nvm, it looks okay to me, but that's just with a 10 second glance, I can't give you an informed answer unless I test it myself, and I'm a bit busy for that ;) |
| 16:44.22 | djszapi | alterego: isn't it better without function argument ? http://paste.xinu.at/dBoH/ |
| 16:44.26 | djszapi | I was just copy/pasting the function from the ToolIcon internals, but it is weird they used a function argument. |
| 16:44.44 | djszapi | since it is currently not called with an argument, so no real need for that :) |
| 16:44.59 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: my post method is little bit dfferent, i don't want to use headers, but no i get total as -1 =\ |
| 16:45.02 | djszapi | but keeping the consistency with ToolIcon internals might make sense even if it is no use |
| 16:45.04 | ZogG_laptop | is it releated? |
| 16:45.13 | alterego | I wouldn't bother using it. |
| 16:45.26 | djszapi | ok, so without that then. |
| 16:48.31 | MohammadAG | you don't want to use headers? |
| 16:49.12 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: http://dpaste.org/n4wrK/ |
| 16:53.01 | MohammadAG | I hope that QNetworkAccessManager pointer is deleted somewhere |
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| 16:53.59 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: why? |
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| 16:54.08 | MohammadAG | cause it uses up memory |
| 16:54.15 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: just give it a parent. |
| 16:54.19 | djszapi | it will be done automagically. |
| 16:54.41 | djszapi | provided, upload inherits qobject for instance, you could use this |
| 16:55.14 | MohammadAG | it has a parent, but if the app creates a new instance everytime you upload then automagicallism doesn't work |
| 16:55.48 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: it works and i get sent data, but total is -1 - what means it can't handle the total size of data |
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| 16:55.59 | djszapi | MohammadAG: does not matter, if all of them have parents. |
| 16:56.10 | djszapi | and Upload must inherit QObject since it uses signal then |
| 16:56.15 | djszapi | connection* |
| 16:56.50 | djszapi | though I would not know why one need to create new manager all the time. |
| 16:57.01 | djszapi | would need* |
| 16:57.27 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: sorry, but no time for debugging your code :/ |
| 16:57.42 | ZogG_laptop | =\ |
| 16:57.56 | MohammadAG | djszapi, it does matter |
| 16:57.59 | MohammadAG | don't spread BS |
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| 16:58.30 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: so any ideas why it doesn't know the size of sent info? total size |
| 16:58.33 | MohammadAG | djszapi, he's creating a new manager for every upload rather than using it all |
| 16:58.53 | ZogG_laptop | don't fight coz of me at least |
| 16:58.58 | MohammadAG | once for all uploads* |
| 16:59.11 | MohammadAG | we're not fighting, but your code wastes memory |
| 16:59.16 | MohammadAG | use one manager or delete it after you're done with it |
| 16:59.24 | ZogG_laptop | i use also downloads and sometimes few in a time - so i think that's the way |
| 16:59.51 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: for now i used only one |
| 17:00.19 | ZogG_laptop | at least there is one made as i didn't use other code |
| 17:00.21 | MohammadAG | the code you pasted creates a new one every time you upload |
| 17:00.26 | MohammadAG | that's not only one |
| 17:00.47 | MohammadAG | define one QNetworkAccessManager in the header or at the top |
| 17:00.48 | ZogG_laptop | and if i upload once? |
| 17:00.50 | djszapi | MohammadAG: for that, smart pointers are good anyway |
| 17:00.56 | djszapi | not manual deleting. |
| 17:01.10 | djszapi | that is why they were designed, but I am not sure I see the need for new manager all the time. |
| 17:01.17 | ZogG_laptop | but how is it releated that i have no totalsize? |
| 17:01.30 | djszapi | it is a different issue |
| 17:01.56 | ZogG_laptop | that's the one i want to solve one =) |
| 17:02.04 | ZogG_laptop | after that i would try to optimize code |
| 17:02.15 | MohammadAG | djszapi, there's no need for a new manager at a time |
| 17:02.29 | MohammadAG | he's learning C++, so it's a mistake |
| 17:03.10 | ZogG_laptop | guys you right but still no help on the issue i have |
| 17:05.50 | djszapi | even without smart pointers, you can assign a local qobject inherited instance, and you are good to go without leaking. |
| 17:06.11 | djszapi | I do not see leaking in that either, nor in smart pointers. |
| 17:06.21 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: I can help y ou tonight with debugging your code, if you still need help. |
| 17:06.22 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, what do you get in the slot? |
| 17:06.43 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: sent is proper number while total is -1 |
| 17:09.09 | djszapi | alterego: heh, I wrote "int" for a string in my previous commit (documentation), and got accepted. |
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| 17:12.04 | ZogG_laptop | =\ |
| 17:12.10 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ? |
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| 17:19.51 | secyritas | can somebody send me the /etc/init/ssh.conf >__< |
| 17:19.57 | secyritas | aegis locked me out.. :D |
| 17:20.21 | RST38h | !seen wazd |
| 17:20.23 | _MeeGoBot_ | wazd was last seen 9 weeks, 3 days, 3 hours, 8 minutes and a couple of seconds ago, saying 'Venemo: wazzup? :)' in #harmattan. |
| 17:20.29 | RST38h | Yoooo |
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| 17:20.30 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
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| 17:21.07 | djszapi | ~seen fiferboy |
| 17:21.15 | infobot | fiferboy <~fiferboy@Maemo/community/contributor/fiferboy> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 77d 2h 35m 30s ago, saying: 'In a good way, though'. |
| 17:21.34 | RST38h | ~seen wazd |
| 17:21.34 | infobot | wazd <~wazd@broadband-95-84-185-178.nationalcablenetworks.ru> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 66d 3h 9m 15s ago, saying: 'Venemo: wazzup? :)'. |
| 17:22.46 | itsnotabigtruck | btw has anyone figured out how to neuter the mynokia phoning home on the N9 |
| 17:23.04 | itsnotabigtruck | just found out about that the other day looking at the logs, looks like it was a big controversy back in the N900 days |
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| 17:25.10 | itsnotabigtruck | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.14 | itsnotabigtruck | ~seen itsnotabigtruck |
| 17:25.15 | infobot | itsnotabigtruck is currently on #n9 #harmattan. Has said a total of 603 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen itsnotabigtruck'. |
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| 17:25.24 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 17:25.27 | itsnotabigtruck | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.20 | itsnotabigtruck | it looks like infobot returns space-prefixed messages in ~seen commands |
| 17:26.26 | itsnotabigtruck | btw people need to start using that more |
| 17:26.52 | itsnotabigtruck | RST38h: any idea about the mynokia thing? |
| 17:27.06 | RST38h | What thing? |
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| 17:27.58 | itsnotabigtruck | RST38h: the N9 phoning home with an SMS the first time it can see a mobile network |
| 17:28.15 | e0x | ZogG_laptop: sorry , yes i was hoping to browser but i think this will change the propose of the tool |
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| 17:28.18 | itsnotabigtruck | same scheme they put in N900 starting with PR1.2 |
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| 17:28.45 | RST38h | itsnot:And? |
| 17:29.09 | itsnotabigtruck | RST38h: well, there has to be a way to stop it from doing so |
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| 17:31.47 | ZogG_laptop | e0x: what? |
| 17:33.30 | djszapi | jonni: what did you use the countdown.wav sound for ? |
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| 17:55.24 | itsnotabigtruck | is there a list of connection manager parameters for telepathy-gabble anywhere? |
| 17:55.31 | e0x | ZogG_laptop: sorry i was talking about how you can change what gallery is display in imgrup |
| 17:55.42 | itsnotabigtruck | because i'm not finding much :( |
| 17:56.34 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: have you tried on #telepathy ? |
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| 18:22.16 | itsnotabigtruck | for reference, there's a list of parameters at /usr/share/telepathy/managers/gabble.manager |
| 18:22.42 | itsnotabigtruck | there seems to be no other documentation whatsoever |
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| 18:25.55 | itsnotabigtruck | btw anyone know how to make the N9 display a service name for a jabber (gabble) account? |
| 18:26.31 | itsnotabigtruck | right now messaging and availability show a blank line where 'Google Talk' or 'Facebook' or whatever would appear |
| 18:37.10 | jussi | is there any way to add google plus to the stream? (or is anyone working on it?) |
| 18:38.27 | djszapi | jussi: account plugin or something else you mean ? |
| 18:38.49 | jussi | djszapi: yeah, account-plugin |
| 18:39.59 | djszapi | that is what I found with a quick search: http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2011/12/meego-harmattan-meeplus-google-client.html but it is not an accoun plugin. Isn't it okay for you ? |
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| 18:40.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Hi guys |
| 18:40.50 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I have some trouble using Community OBS |
| 18:42.10 | djszapi | what troubles ? |
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| 18:42.52 | Sfiet_Konstantin | like |
| 18:42.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ake[2]: *** No rule to make target `/targets/Harmattan-ARM/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
| 18:43.05 | Sfiet_Konstantin | everything compiles fine on scratchbox |
| 18:43.14 | djszapi | do not use scratchbox |
| 18:43.16 | djszapi | use osc. |
| 18:43.17 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but on the BS it says that there is no rule to compile |
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| 18:43.44 | djszapi | I meant to write to test with osc after the successful sb build :) |
| 18:43.51 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ok |
| 18:44.02 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I use tarball produced by sbox |
| 18:44.04 | Sfiet_Konstantin | is that ok ? |
| 18:44.24 | ivan|home | anyone knows in which db file where harmattan stores smss and onther messages? |
| 18:44.43 | djszapiN950 | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot in sb ? |
| 18:44.50 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ivan|home: it is the tracker store |
| 18:44.53 | Sfiet_Konstantin | yes |
| 18:44.59 | ivan|home | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks |
| 18:45.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ivan|home: you should query it with qt mobility classes |
| 18:45.25 | djszapiN950 | Sfiet_Konstantin, should work, at least works for me :p |
| 18:45.35 | ivan|home | Sfiet_Konstantin: I know, just doing something dirty now :) |
| 18:45.49 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ivan|home: héhé |
| 18:45.56 | djszapiN950 | Sfiet_Konstantin, cobs is picky about the format |
| 18:46.10 | djszapiN950 | ivan|home, heya ;) |
| 18:46.31 | ivan|home | djszapiN950: heh, hi Laszlo :) |
| 18:46.50 | MohammadAG | <Sfiet_Konstantin> ake[2]: *** No rule to make target `/targets/Harmattan-ARM/usr/share/qt4/mkspecs/linux-g++-maemo/qmake.conf', needed by `Makefile'. Stop. |
| 18:46.58 | MohammadAG | make distclean && qmake |
| 18:47.37 | djszapiN950 | Sfiet_Konstantin, do you have a cobs link ? |
| 18:47.58 | Sfiet_Konstantin | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=widgets&project=home%3Asfietkonstantin&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
| 18:48.23 | clopez | anyone knows about a working harmattan / N9 (qt) client for the fosdem 2012 schedule? http://www.fosdem.org/2012/mobile-schedule-apps |
| 18:50.08 | djszapi | clopez: that would be cool :) |
| 18:50.21 | djszapi | clopez: perhaps, you can reuse the existing meego summit one. |
| 18:50.30 | djszapi | you just need to fill a different xml in. |
| 18:50.52 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: please do not use format 1.0 with c-obs. |
| 18:51.23 | clopez | I was able to compile http://sourceforge.net/projects/fosdem-maemo/ with qt-creator but the apps don't works with the touch screen (it don't scrolls on the lists) |
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| 18:52.29 | djszapi | which maemo was it designed for, Fremantle, Harmattan, or ? |
| 18:55.07 | MohammadAG | it's probably native Qt |
| 18:55.20 | MohammadAG | which was dumped on Harmattan for a failed reason |
| 18:55.41 | djszapi | clopez: could you port to ui to components ? |
| 18:55.50 | djszapi | the UI* I would love to have such an app. :) |
| 18:57.39 | djszapi | yes, it is full of C++ code, and not even MTF :P |
| 18:58.22 | Sfiet_Konstantin | did anyone know if osc keep the downloaded package that it uses for the local build ? |
| 18:58.38 | jussi | djszapi: that client is incredibly incomplete - and I was also hoping for an account plugin, as I have everything else there. anyways, if there isnt one, then little I can do |
| 18:59.09 | djszapi | jussi: it is not that simple to write usually a plugin |
| 18:59.20 | djszapi | (mostly because not documented) |
| 18:59.45 | djszapi | maybe a simple password authentication might be enough in your case. |
| 19:00.01 | djszapi | but from what I can say, the other google plugins are really big, and I do not even understand the code of theirs. |
| 19:00.14 | jussi | djszapi: fair enough |
| 19:00.38 | djszapi | and the existing plugins (eg. google ones) are not open source. |
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| 19:03.32 | gri | how can people at the ovi store rate apps as "anonymous"? I start hating those giving bad ratings with non-english text and absolutely zero information. Why the hell do I have a bug tracker and email even popping up in the application that tells you to not rate the application if you have no clue ... |
| 19:03.45 | djszapi | jussi: I can send my plugin as an example, but it is written in MTF. |
| 19:04.17 | djszapi | gri: report it to OVI |
| 19:04.22 | djszapi | this is sad :/ |
| 19:05.49 | gri | there should atleast be a way to contact the users and tell them they are stupid :P |
| 19:06.13 | mps | gri: indeed, why the hell do you have that :) |
| 19:06.42 | ZogG_laptop | where is the proper way to keep the icons and images for my app? |
| 19:07.02 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: qt resource system |
| 19:07.42 | rzr` | clopez: that one depends on alarmd |
| 19:07.46 | djszapi | and the app icon is: ${SHARE_INSTALL_DIR}/icons/hicolor/YxY |
| 19:07.47 | ZogG_laptop | i mean when i set icons.files = /imgs/reddit.png ; icons.path = |
| 19:08.15 | mps | it's not like you can just tell people not to rate if they don't like the app and expect them to obey, so that's kind of a silly thing to put in |
| 19:08.26 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: shouldn't i put it in dir only for my app? so if there is such icon already i wouldn't overwrite it? |
| 19:08.43 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: what if someone deletes your icon ? |
| 19:08.46 | djszapi | or qml file ? |
| 19:09.06 | djszapi | how large are your images ? |
| 19:09.23 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i want to make icons for buttons instead of text |
| 19:09.49 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/resources.html |
| 19:10.06 | Sfiet_Konstantin | lol |
| 19:10.11 | Sfiet_Konstantin | for my local build i have |
| 19:10.18 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Writing build configuration |
| 19:10.20 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Running build |
| 19:10.21 | Sfiet_Konstantin | [Errno 2] No such file or directory |
| 19:10.59 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: Can you paste the whole output ? |
| 19:11.12 | djszapi | (involving the command you executed) |
| 19:11.14 | ieatlint | haha, making a reddit app? |
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| 19:13.13 | gri | did anyone ever see a rating from a chinese person in the ovi store? I have 500+ downloads from China but not a single rating from one of those. Do they have their own ovi ratings that we can't see? |
| 19:13.25 | Sfiet_Konstantin | [sk@stella widgets]$ osc build MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard armv7el |
| 19:13.26 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Building widgets_0.1.0.dsc for MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armv7el |
| 19:13.28 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Getting buildinfo from server and store to /home/sk/Code/Misc/osc/home:sfietkonstantin/widgets/.osc/_buildinfo-MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard-armv7el.xml |
| 19:13.29 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Getting buildconfig from server and store to /home/sk/Code/Misc/osc/home:sfietkonstantin/widgets/.osc/_buildconfig-MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard-armv7el |
| 19:13.31 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Updating cache of required packages |
| 19:13.33 | Sfiet_Konstantin | 0.0% cache miss. 206/206 dependencies cached. |
| 19:13.34 | Sfiet_Konstantin | WARNING: deb packages get not verified, they can compromise your system ! |
| 19:13.36 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Writing build configuration |
| 19:13.37 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Running build |
| 19:13.39 | Sfiet_Konstantin | [Errno 2] No such file or directory |
| 19:13.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | http://pastebin.com/NTGLappN |
| 19:13.56 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: paste.kde.org serves good for instance ;-) |
| 19:14.38 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: have you tried to fix the format to 3.0 btw ? |
| 19:15.20 | djszapi | gri: do you publish stuff for free ? |
| 19:15.29 | gri | djszapi: yes |
| 19:15.33 | ieatlint | did you actually just paste a bunch of lines to the channel and then give us a pastebin link for the same text? |
| 19:15.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | djszapi: ?? what format ? |
| 19:15.57 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ieatlint: yes, because of fail copy paste :D |
| 19:16.44 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: are you familiar with debian package formats ? c-obs is not. |
| 19:17.06 | Sfiet_Konstantin | djszapi: actually, I'm not familiar either |
| 19:17.13 | ieatlint | ah :P |
| 19:17.42 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: cat ../../attica/attica-0.2.0/debian/source/format |
| 19:17.43 | djszapi | 3.0 (quilt) |
| 19:18.17 | djszapi | and you need to have the properly named orig.tar.gz/bz2 according to the topmost changelog entry for instance. |
| 19:18.26 | djszapi | and it will automatically detect the format. |
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| 19:22.06 | Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... |
| 19:22.15 | Sfiet_Konstantin | i will see this after eating |
| 19:29.18 | itsnotabigtruck | gri: maybe chinese people are just in general inclined not to rate apps? |
| 19:29.29 | itsnotabigtruck | or maybe due to some chinese law ratings from china are blocked? |
| 19:29.41 | itsnotabigtruck | also, > anyone know how to make the N9 display a service name for a jabber (gabble) account? |
| 19:29.44 | itsnotabigtruck | right now messaging and availability show a blank line where 'Google Talk' or 'Facebook' or whatever would appear |
| 19:30.28 | itsnotabigtruck | also, does peregrine have any integration with telepathy/accounts/contacts or is it standalone |
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| 19:38.33 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: wait do i need to add qrc file ? |
| 19:38.45 | djszapi | yes |
| 19:39.05 | ZogG_laptop | hmm |
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| 19:39.26 | djszapi | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/kanagram-harmattan.qrc -> here is an example of mine. |
| 19:40.26 | djszapi | Do not forget the alternative for this in qmake: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/CMakeLists.txt#L15 |
| 19:40.26 | itsnotabigtruck | ~logs |
| 19:40.27 | infobot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/%23harmattan/ Lines starting with spaces are not logged. Logs are updated daily. |
| 19:40.54 | itsnotabigtruck | wtf, so there's two different logs of this channel? |
| 19:41.18 | ieatlint | we can avoid being logged by prepending a space to our text? |
| 19:41.37 | ieatlint | (well, by that logger, anywa) |
| 19:41.39 | itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: only on one of the two logs |
| 19:41.41 | DocScrutinizer | itsnotabigtruck: yes, so what? |
| 19:41.45 | itsnotabigtruck | which makes it pretty useless |
| 19:41.57 | djszapi | hehe :) |
| 19:42.24 | ieatlint | the government is tracking you |
| 19:42.29 | ieatlint | and logs in stereo make it easier |
| 19:42.34 | DocScrutinizer | no |
| 19:42.39 | DocScrutinizer | is tracking you |
| 19:42.48 | ieatlint | you must be really bored |
| 19:42.56 | itsnotabigtruck | well to be fair, it's entirely reasonable not to want everything i say to be logged in perpetuity and indexed by google |
| 19:43.02 | itsnotabigtruck | that's why i really don't like irc logs |
| 19:43.03 | ieatlint | or have some disturbing kinks |
| 19:43.45 | itsnotabigtruck | you say something off the cuff and now anybody googling your nickname can find it |
| 19:43.58 | DocScrutinizer | itsnotabigtruck: pick an arbitrary text form lest week's log, and use google |
| 19:44.07 | djszapi | needs to catch the bus otherwise the night would be a bit cold on the street in Helsinki =) |
| 19:44.15 | DocScrutinizer | you'll be scared it's not just two places you find logs |
| 19:44.36 | ieatlint | misses buses... it's so much harder to get drunk in a bar without them :( |
| 19:45.42 | itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22it+took+me+28+days+to+get+this+into+ovi+store%22 |
| 19:46.04 | ieatlint | also, i look forward to a future where people can google my irc handle and learn that on dec 12, 2011, i didn't wear pants |
| 19:46.26 | itsnotabigtruck | also i just realized i haven't fixed up my firefox with google ssl and https everywhere yet |
| 19:46.55 | itsnotabigtruck | the point is, irc logging can do harm, and rarely does much of any good |
| 19:47.56 | ieatlint | i've actually gotten useful results from irc logs while searching for problems |
| 19:48.28 | itsnotabigtruck | (rarely) |
| 19:49.17 | ieatlint | well, your statistics sound legit |
| 19:49.43 | itsnotabigtruck | o.O |
| 19:49.55 | itsnotabigtruck | it's entirely a matter of opinion, statistics are irrelevant |
| 19:50.37 | ieatlint | ah, one of those "not intended to be a factual statement" statements |
| 19:50.44 | ieatlint | :P |
| 19:51.03 | itsnotabigtruck | it depends on how you weight occasionally finding answers on google vs. having dumb stuff you said be dug up at some point in the future |
| 19:51.18 | ieatlint | i think you're overanalyzing it |
| 19:51.39 | ieatlint | unless you plan on discussing very specific details on murdering someone, you're pretty much fine |
| 19:51.46 | itsnotabigtruck | but the chances of finding answers are never that good, and the chances of having something dumb you said be logged converges to 100% if you're here long enough |
| 19:52.28 | ieatlint | yeah, everyone says stupid shit |
| 19:52.44 | ieatlint | you won't stand out |
| 19:53.31 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, but if somebody's trying to turn up info on you in particular, everything would stand out |
| 19:53.54 | ieatlint | info about what? |
| 19:54.02 | ieatlint | how long it took you to get something into ovi? |
| 19:54.04 | itsnotabigtruck | anything... |
| 19:54.42 | ieatlint | you're making me want to start publishing my logs too |
| 19:55.20 | ieatlint | and i've been an eff member for 13 years now :P |
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| 20:06.30 | jussi | djszapi: yes please, jussi01 at ubuntu dot com |
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| 20:11.15 | djszapiN950 | ok |
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| 20:17.45 | ZogG_laptop | djszapiN950: i added qrc file and entered the path as well, i added the file to otherfiles but still it says it cna't be open =\ |
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| 20:45.28 | itsnotabigtruck | so, i understand that harmattan doesn't provide any way to place a video call |
| 20:45.59 | itsnotabigtruck | does the telepathy/etc. infrastructure support video calling? |
| 20:46.10 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: I am not fun of the truncated, and not fully pasted user reports. |
| 20:46.14 | djszapi | fan* |
| 20:46.52 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. if somebody made a telepathy connection manager that did video calls, could you make video calls with it via the gui |
| 20:48.25 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: nvm, solved it by install += imgs, would play with qrc later |
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| 21:02.08 | torarne | djszapi: did you work on aegis stuff? |
| 21:05.29 | djszapi | torarne: yeah |
| 21:07.29 | torarne | on a non-RD device, is there anything you can do to get the rights to mount? |
| 21:08.05 | torarne | as root, or user, whatever. sshfs works fine except "fusermount: mount failed: Operation not permitted" |
| 21:08.10 | torarne | i assume aegis-su is not available for non-RD devices? |
| 21:08.28 | djszapi | no, and correct |
| 21:08.40 | djszapi | well, yes and correct actually |
| 21:08.54 | djszapi | but I will not disclose security holes for obvious reasons ;-) |
| 21:09.55 | djszapi | not even in the "interrogator room" :) |
| 21:10.03 | torarne | :) |
| 21:11.49 | torarne | so ther's no credential an app can request to be able to mount? |
| 21:12.05 | torarne | even if mounting into a user-directory |
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| 21:12.38 | djszapi | torarne: no because it would be error-prone a lot. |
| 21:13.11 | djszapi | (btw this topic was discussed many time, thus I suggest the channel log for not replicating that conversation, at least bit by bit) |
| 21:13.15 | djszapi | times* |
| 21:13.43 | torarne | k, gotcha |
| 21:15.44 | djszapi | torarne: something around this discussion: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/%23harmattan.2012-01-11.log.html#t2012-01-11T15:26:28 |
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| 21:32.38 | torarne | djszapi: thanks |
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| 21:36.36 | e-yes | sgx530 revision 125 (for n9) -- is it correct information? |
| 21:38.50 | djszapi | sgx530, yep |
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| 23:01.09 | Tronic | How to restore installed apps after restoring a backup? |
| 23:01.31 | Tronic | It shows me a list of the apps I had installed but no button to actually restore them. |
| 23:04.12 | djszapi | I have never seen such a restore functionality in any package managers. |
| 23:05.25 | Tronic | I guess I could install the apps one by one by clicking them individually but I am afraid of losing the list if I try. |
| 23:06.11 | Tronic | Already lost it once by clicking the icon in bottom left corner, apparently there is no way to go back to the list after that. |
| 23:06.40 | Tronic | (except re-restoring the backup, which is what I did) |
| 23:07.50 | djszapi | just grep for the installed packages and feed dpkg with it |
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| 23:22.15 | itsnotabigtruck | Tronic: hm |
| 23:22.23 | itsnotabigtruck | how about just jotting the names down |
| 23:22.53 | itsnotabigtruck | also, under what circumstances do aegis privileges propagate down to spawned processes? |
| 23:24.27 | merlin1991 | djszapi: "I have never seen such a restore functionality in any package managers." well ham on maemo5 did it |
| 23:25.52 | djszapi | merlin1991: it is one long command |
| 23:26.02 | djszapi | why would be builtin in any package manager ? |
| 23:26.12 | djszapi | it* |
| 23:26.16 | merlin1991 | I don't know |
| 23:26.18 | merlin1991 | but it simply is |
| 23:26.26 | djszapi | not that I am aware of |
| 23:26.31 | djszapi | on desktop distributions |
| 23:26.40 | djszapi | nor on Harmattan, Android, etc. |
| 23:26.46 | djszapi | not much addition to a package manager really. |
| 23:26.57 | merlin1991 | run a backup on a n900, restore it, open ham title menu --> "restore applications" is there |
| 23:27.11 | djszapi | and since 1% uses it, it is an issue to clutter the package manager. |
| 23:27.13 | merlin1991 | and it does reinstall apps according to a list that came from the backup |
| 23:27.47 | djszapi | why cannot 1% type a command? |
| 23:28.04 | djszapi | I mean if it is a hard thing to do, and 90% requires it, it is ok. |
| 23:28.37 | merlin1991 | because it is a consumer device and you're not supposed to "type a command" in order to get your application state back? |
| 23:28.57 | beford | it doesn't have to be 'built on the package manager' just ont he restore application :P |
| 23:28.59 | djszapi | why not write an ovi app ? |
| 23:29.26 | djszapi | I mean seriously, wrapping one command into a ui app is not hard |
| 23:29.28 | djszapi | if one command is really that problematic |
| 23:29.38 | djszapi | and this is really not a common need. |
| 23:29.45 | merlin1991 | I mean seriously why do when it already is there |
| 23:29.46 | djszapi | to get into the builtin stuff |
| 23:30.21 | djszapi | the thing is that above, it is not there. |
| 23:30.42 | merlin1991 | when the builtin stuff already remembers the list there is no point int *not* providing a way to easily install |
| 23:31.17 | djszapi | disagree |
| 23:31.19 | merlin1991 | why would I store the list in the first place? |
| 23:31.22 | merlin1991 | so mock the user? |
| 23:31.26 | djszapi | same thing with QTimer |
| 23:31.34 | djszapi | it could have a pause method |
| 23:31.43 | djszapi | but it does not have because it is not a common need |
| 23:31.51 | merlin1991 | here is your list of installed applications, now have fun trying to install them all again, huh? |
| 23:31.53 | djszapi | so why bother with one thing that 1% requests ? |
| 23:32.00 | djszapi | or 5%, or 10% ? |
| 23:32.03 | merlin1991 | why does it even show the fsckd list then? |
| 23:32.04 | djszapi | and not 95% ? |
| 23:32.10 | merlin1991 | which 95% do need that? |
| 23:32.11 | djszapi | to clutter the stuff for no real need for /everybody/ ? |
| 23:32.48 | merlin1991 | I don't see the rationale for a list without functionality, over a list that enables me to get the apps back |
| 23:32.58 | merlin1991 | either enable me todo so, or drop the whole list |
| 23:33.00 | beford | 'do you want to restore the installed applications, yes/no' |
| 23:33.08 | merlin1991 | ^^ exactly |
| 23:33.20 | djszapi | I would drop the list. |
| 23:33.44 | djszapi | and let the 5% (or whatever small amount) make a community app. |
| 23:34.18 | beford | then whats the point of creating a backup and 'restore' if you can just reflash and get stock ? :P |
| 23:35.31 | merlin1991 | beford: because you *can't* reflash from a nokia pov |
| 23:35.42 | merlin1991 | only care can do that for you |
| 23:39.38 | djszapi | how can I make a page scrollable (not flickable) ? |
| 23:40.02 | beford | merlin1991, I had to reflash my phone using Nokia Software Update, I did a 'reset' from the phone menu and I was unable to activate dev mode and install stuff, so I just used NSU and it applied the same fw. doesn't NSU reflash the whole thing? I don't remember creating a backup :P |
| 23:40.09 | djszapi | without ListView, mainly. |
| 23:40.53 | ajalkane | what's wrong with flickable? |
| 23:40.55 | itsnotabigtruck | beford: when i went to pr1.2 it left the emmc alone and only did the rootfs |
| 23:41.05 | djszapi | ajalkane: not sure |
| 23:41.26 | djszapi | ajalkane: when I am trying to scroll the page down, it is getting back to the top after I release the tapping. |
| 23:41.58 | djszapi | so I cannot effectively go to the "real" bottom of the page. |
| 23:42.04 | djszapi | and click on stuff there |
| 23:42.21 | ajalkane | I have no such problems. You set properly contentHeight? |
| 23:42.46 | djszapi | not sure |
| 23:43.07 | djszapi | ajalkane: http://paste.xinu.at/lzU/ |
| 23:43.31 | djszapi | sorry, not that one.. |
| 23:43.44 | djszapi | this one: http://paste.kde.org/197564/ |
| 23:45.00 | djszapi | beford: what is wrong with wrapping a long command with a qml ui as simple as a querydialog ? |
| 23:45.26 | djszapi | if you do really need that for some reason ? |
| 23:45.36 | ajalkane | djszapi: your Columns lack height |
| 23:45.40 | ajalkane | Use height: childrenRect.height |
| 23:46.07 | djszapi | not sure what you mean |
| 23:46.26 | ajalkane | No height property in your Columns inside Flickable |
| 23:46.29 | djszapi | why would that not be implicit ? |
| 23:46.36 | ajalkane | Dunno. |
| 23:47.08 | djszapi | yet another qml bug ? :D |
| 23:47.45 | ajalkane | No idea. Or just one of those "live and learn" situations. QML sometimes throws funny surprises. |
| 23:48.21 | djszapi | too much of them :) |
| 23:48.26 | djszapi | and some of them cannot even be learned. |
| 23:48.47 | djszapi | like my bugreport this morning that I cannot reproduce anywhere else, just in my application, and "randomly". |
| 23:48.51 | djszapi | and no workaround :D |
| 23:55.39 | djszapi | ajalkane: essentially the same after the height settings as well |
| 23:56.08 | ajalkane | ? |
| 23:56.12 | djszapi | ajalkane: I can send you the debian file, if you wanna see the settings page on your own :) |
| 23:56.34 | djszapi | ajalkane: setting the heights for the columns did not make it any better. :/ |
| 23:56.52 | ajalkane | any binding loop warnings or other warnings there? |
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| 23:58.14 | djszapi | ajalkane: yes, binding loop warning thingie |
| 23:58.18 | ajalkane | I'm using such Flickables a lot without problems, you can try and see if you spot what I'm doing differently for example on this page: https://github.com/ajalkane/profilematic/blob/devel/profilematic/qml/EditRule.qml |
| 23:58.34 | ajalkane | Is the binding loop about any property related to height? |
| 23:58.42 | djszapi | yes |
| 23:58.50 | djszapi | http://paste.kde.org/197570/ |
| 23:58.55 | ajalkane | Eliminate it and your problem probably goes away |
