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| 03:24.57 | npm | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=39463 <-- N9 PR1.2 security and SSH: world writable /home/developer and /home/user/.* |
| 03:29.19 | itsnotabigtruck | slow night tonight :( |
| 03:29.28 | itsnotabigtruck | guess everybody's doing something for the 14th |
| 03:29.30 | itsnotabigtruck | i have homework :/ |
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| 04:04.02 | djszapi | X-Fade ping |
| 04:09.00 | djszapi | anybody using "osc" here ? |
| 04:09.34 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi ^ that's the obs client utility, right? |
| 04:09.59 | djszapi | definitely. |
| 04:10.44 | djszapi | the only interface to debug c-obs issues. |
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| 04:12.13 | djszapi | could not get it run on my arch box, so using on my ubuntu server. |
| 04:12.24 | djszapi | Though it would be handier to use it on my host. |
| 04:12.39 | djszapi | my friend's ubuntu server* |
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| 07:45.54 | sony123 | Hi all, could anyone point me to how to gain root access for a QProcess? |
| 07:46.40 | sony123 | Or granting an app with root privilege so the child QProcess also gets root access |
| 07:46.45 | sony123 | Thanks in advance |
| 07:51.13 | jonni | sony123: setuid(0);setgid(0); |
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| 07:56.16 | sony123 | How do I directly apply them on a QProcess? On QProcess documentation I only see these arguments in setupChildProcess () virtual function |
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| 07:56.57 | jonni | call the functions inside qprocess? |
| 07:57.51 | sony123 | Ok I will look into that direction |
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| 08:00.47 | sony123 | I was thinking there might be a way to get permission from aegis |
| 08:04.04 | sony123 | Thanks for the help! |
| 08:09.09 | djszapi | yes, there is a way to get permission from aegis |
| 08:09.15 | jonni | ah, he quit already, setuid will ofcourse fail if you dont fill aegis manifest :) |
| 08:09.18 | djszapi | setu/gid(0) sounds like a nasty hack :) |
| 08:09.48 | djszapi | well I am saying it to you, not to him really :) |
| 08:11.26 | jonni | well if he wants to run his app as user and some of the child processes as root atleast in my mind setuid is the easiest way. unless you have some nicer tricks |
| 08:14.04 | djszapi | I think it is dirty |
| 08:14.11 | djszapi | especially because it is not gonna work without aegis |
| 08:14.19 | djszapi | and if you request aegis creds, you do not need that hack anymore. |
| 08:14.46 | djszapi | so that thing should really not be used :) |
| 08:14.56 | jonni | so aegis creds allow you to change your process to be root and back to user on the fly? |
| 08:15.13 | jonni | afaik standard unix setuid is the way to go |
| 08:15.33 | djszapi | that is a really nasty hack as I said |
| 08:15.35 | djszapi | and I explained why |
| 08:15.55 | jonni | well can you give example how to do it without setuid? |
| 08:16.31 | jonni | I want my app to start as user, then after pressing some button to run some functions as root and then switch back to user? |
| 08:16.45 | djszapi | very simple you run a script |
| 08:16.48 | djszapi | a proxy one |
| 08:16.54 | djszapi | and you do not mess up with root for a process |
| 08:17.06 | djszapi | just for a dedicated task. |
| 08:17.15 | jonni | but if I want everything just to be one binary without any scripts |
| 08:17.24 | djszapi | why would you ? |
| 08:17.47 | djszapi | that is the point, you do not wanna :SD |
| 08:17.59 | djszapi | because you mess up with root credentials for more than you need. |
| 08:18.41 | jonni | coding convention prefers one binary. But yes if you do seperate scripts/binaries then aegis manifest is enough. |
| 08:19.10 | djszapi | especially if the security framework once allows changing on the fly. |
| 08:19.30 | djszapi | it could be even nicer. |
| 08:19.44 | djszapi | I do not care about "coding convention" against security principles honestly. |
| 08:20.01 | djszapi | style cannot override security considerations imo. |
| 08:20.07 | jonni | well yes most likely sony doesnt even need root for anything, as in real life that user is quite limited on N9, without known what his app was trying to do its hard to say |
| 08:20.55 | djszapi | no it is app dependent |
| 08:21.06 | djszapi | the root functionality needs to have root, and not the whole stuff |
| 08:21.19 | djszapi | it is a clear separation. |
| 08:21.36 | djszapi | it is not app dependent* |
| 08:21.40 | jonni | and there is no security in N9, so for me its style :) |
| 08:21.51 | djszapi | of course there is. |
| 08:22.38 | RST38h | not for the user |
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| 08:31.10 | jonni | well yes, bb5, crypto, aegis and devicelock, so there is security atleast on some level |
| 08:32.40 | djszapi | X-Fade ping :) |
| 08:45.49 | rhkfin | In address book, pressing long on a contact opens a menu. How do I close it? |
| 08:46.47 | djszapi | radiofree: marble does use openstreet map. |
| 08:47.04 | radiofree | cool, OSM is the best! |
| 08:47.26 | djszapi | :) |
| 09:00.00 | djszapi | lbt ping |
| 09:00.11 | djszapi | lbt why is "coverage" build type the default on c-obs ? |
| 09:00.15 | djszapi | it is different everywhere else :) |
| 09:01.49 | djszapi | lbt X-Fade it makes tons of packages fail. |
| 09:03.32 | djszapi | coverage is not the default build type on Harmattan. |
| 09:09.00 | djszapi | X-Fade lbt https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24897 |
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| 12:15.12 | petteri | apps.formeego.com has somekind of loop going on |
| 12:17.02 | djszapi | again ? |
| 12:17.55 | petteri | if i try to load it just says: Rediction loop detected |
| 12:20.38 | djszapi | it now works for me. |
| 12:20.55 | gri | yeah, showed "redirection error" once and then loaded fine |
| 12:21.14 | djszapi | there are many temporary issues like that |
| 12:22.53 | petteri | ah, ok. Works from n9 but not from my desktop, so no worries :) |
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| 12:31.39 | damaltor | doesnt work from my desktop either |
| 12:32.04 | damaltor | maybe there is some mobile site working fine but the desktop version is dead |
| 12:32.18 | djszapi | f5 ? |
| 12:58.45 | damaltor | nope |
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| 12:59.34 | djszapi | nope what ? |
| 13:04.04 | damaltor | nope as in f5 doesnt fix it |
| 13:04.51 | djszapi | interestingly, wfm seemingly. |
| 13:04.58 | damaltor | weird |
| 13:10.44 | Appiah | How do you find contacts in Exchange? No way to search company directory? |
| 13:14.24 | damaltor | oh, apps4meego works now |
| 13:14.38 | damaltor | Appiah: they should get synced to your normal contacts app |
| 13:14.41 | alterego | Anyone happen to know how in QML you can get the current focus item? |
| 13:14.57 | alterego | I don't want to have to traverse the entire object tree and look for 'focus == true' ^.^ |
| 13:15.14 | Appiah | it's not my exchange contacts damaltor :D |
| 13:15.34 | Appiah | I mean searching for contacts on the server.. |
| 13:15.43 | Appiah | and mailinglists |
| 13:16.35 | damaltor | oh sry, then i cant help you |
| 13:16.52 | djszapi | alterego: cache it ? |
| 13:16.54 | Appiah | I'm starting to think it's not implemented for some reason.. |
| 13:18.15 | alterego | djszapi: this is at platform level unfortunately. |
| 13:18.53 | djszapi | alterego: what do you mean ? |
| 13:19.05 | alterego | I mean, this is me hacking on qt-components. |
| 13:19.28 | alterego | I'd rather not do something that invasive to track current focus item, though admittedly it'd make things easier .. |
| 13:20.25 | djszapi | at least I do not know distinct approach, sorry :) |
| 13:20.31 | alterego | Yeah, nvm |
| 13:21.56 | alterego | Ah, ha. |
| 13:22.42 | Appiah | I'll just file a feature request like this one https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7222 |
| 13:22.45 | povbot | Bug 7222: Company Directory not present |
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| 13:43.29 | alterego | Well, they track the focus item in QGraphicsScene, but there's no way of getting that from QML, typical. |
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| 13:47.38 | djszapi | alterego: contribute back ? |
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| 13:50.42 | alterego | Too busy to work out the best way to do that right now. |
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| 14:04.00 | Appiah | https://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=944 |
| 14:04.04 | _MeeGoBot_ | Bug 944 enh, ---, ---, ext-risto.lahti, NEW, Request: Implement "Company directory" |
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| 14:39.38 | djszapi | X-Fade lbt why is not proceeding because of different time settings ? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=grantlee&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
| 14:40.04 | lbt | ew |
| 14:40.07 | lbt | could be |
| 14:40.37 | djszapi | I mean ... it should not care, should it |
| 14:45.03 | lbt | no, it's not that |
| 14:45.24 | lbt | the source is new |
| 14:45.31 | lbt | possibly your machine? |
| 14:46.19 | lbt | it's not that == time on the worker and fe/be is correct, I just checked |
| 14:47.33 | djszapi | lbt date |
| 14:47.33 | djszapi | Wed Feb 15 16:47:31 UTC 2012 |
| 14:47.42 | djszapi | we have UTC + 2 hours here. |
| 14:48.19 | djszapi | ls -lda grantlee_0.2.0-1.debian.tar.gz |
| 14:48.19 | djszapi | -rw-rw-r-- 1 lpapp lpapp 8631 Feb 15 14:59 grantlee_0.2.0-1.debian.tar.gz |
| 14:53.48 | djszapi | lbt got a clue ? |
| 14:54.26 | lbt | abort and restart? |
| 14:54.45 | djszapi | tried |
| 14:55.02 | djszapi | I will patiently wait for the time experitation then to not be in the future. |
| 14:55.08 | lbt | I have seen issues with ntp on c.obs just recently |
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| 14:56.30 | djszapi | lbt also could you please take a bug posted above ? |
| 14:56.39 | djszapi | Might be just a simple one-liner configuration change somewhere. |
| 14:56.47 | lbt | which? |
| 14:56.53 | djszapi | https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=24897 |
| 14:56.58 | lbt | 24897? |
| 14:57.41 | djszapi | lbt yeah, I am not sure where "Coverage" build type comes from. The default should be notype if the user does not select anything explicitely. |
| 14:57.44 | lbt | hmm |
| 14:57.58 | lbt | sadly I know nothing about Harmattan builds |
| 14:58.13 | lbt | X-Fade has that side |
| 14:58.28 | lbt | I wish I had more time to work on H |
| 14:58.39 | lbt | but I don't even have a Harmattan device |
| 14:59.16 | djszapi | lbt haven't you requested a developer device ? |
| 14:59.32 | lbt | I got an N950 but it was for Nemo development |
| 14:59.49 | lbt | I'd love an N9 for Harmattan but ... |
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| 15:07.58 | Siva | I am getting this error on flashing for the first time: ERROR: SU_GET_PARAMETER_REQ terminated with error code 7: Object not found |
| 15:07.58 | Siva | ERROR: Unable to get SU_PARAM_HW_BUILD |
| 15:07.58 | Siva | ERROR: Could not find flashing interface |
| 15:08.08 | Siva | the device is an N950.. |
| 15:08.27 | Siva | pointer anyone? |
| 15:08.33 | Siva | pointers* |
| 15:09.08 | itsnotabigtruck | siva: unplug the phone, power it off, run flasher -i, reattach the phone and power it on |
| 15:09.37 | itsnotabigtruck | -i will put it into bootloader mode so it's ready to go for the flash step |
| 15:11.17 | djszapi | interesting, I have never had the need for using -i |
| 15:14.42 | Siva | itsnotabigtruck: no luck.. same error :( |
| 15:14.52 | Siva | itsnotabigtruck: flasher -i gives :Suitable USB interface (bootloader/phonet) not found, waiting... |
| 15:14.52 | Siva | USB device found at bus 002, device address 048. |
| 15:14.52 | Siva | Device identifier: 4D3841333534393033 (SN: M8A354903) |
| 15:14.52 | Siva | Found device RM-680, hardware revision 0829 |
| 15:14.52 | Siva | NOLO version 1.7.8 |
| 15:14.53 | Siva | Version of 'sw-release': RM-680_HARMATTAN_0.2010.32-5_ENOS_MR0 |
| 15:14.54 | Siva | Success |
| 15:15.29 | djszapi | Siva you do know paste sites, don't you :D |
| 15:15.58 | Siva | djszapi: oh yeah.. my bad.. pasted in a hurry. |
| 15:25.30 | djszapi | lbt what the ... err :) I cannot even override the build type for c-obs in my debian/rules file. |
| 15:26.07 | djszapi | so this "Coverage" build type I have never heard of, is pretty hard coded and read only. |
| 15:26.22 | lbt | doesn't know what it is |
| 15:26.33 | lbt | sorry |
| 15:26.58 | lbt | I'd literally have to start with google "Coverage build type" |
| 15:27.09 | lbt | then start grepping source in the obs |
| 15:27.24 | lbt | and at the moment I just don't have time |
| 15:27.28 | lbt | :( |
| 15:28.12 | djszapi | I hope X-Fade is gonna have time. |
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| 15:38.36 | itsnotabigtruck | siva: that doesn't look like an error... |
| 15:38.52 | itsnotabigtruck | that's exactly what it's supposed to do, even says success at the end |
| 15:39.03 | itsnotabigtruck | also might be a good idea to redact your serial number next time, heh |
| 15:39.51 | Siva | itsnotabigtruck: i meant the same error: Unable to get SU_PARAM_HW_BUILD.. was thrown when i tried flashing after using flasher -i |
| 15:40.41 | itsnotabigtruck | siva: oh, wonderful |
| 15:40.50 | itsnotabigtruck | so it's definitely connecting to the bootloader then |
| 15:40.54 | itsnotabigtruck | just blowing up after that |
| 15:41.21 | Siva | itsnotabigtruck: sorry to say but i gotta run now. could we continue later plz.. thanks. |
| 15:41.28 | itsnotabigtruck | also djszapi: it probably has to do with code coverage analysis |
| 15:41.35 | itsnotabigtruck | and k |
| 15:42.00 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: there is no code coverage on c-obs ? |
| 15:42.06 | djszapi | since it is not a static analyzes tool ? |
| 15:43.08 | djszapi | so it doe snot make sense to me to have it. |
| 15:43.40 | djszapi | especially because it is incompatible with the official environment |
| 15:43.48 | djszapi | and even with desktop distributions |
| 15:44.46 | djszapi | and rotfl I need to set back my local time to get it adjusted to c-obs so that it is not stall on c-obs :D |
| 15:46.34 | djszapi | feels weird there is no method/macro in QTest to have a comparison for the actual and expected results, but with a threshold value. |
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| 16:51.31 | djszapiN9 | did anybody get the email client any reliable ? |
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| 16:53.49 | merlin1991 | hm pyside is giving me the finger currently, all I get is a black view, it seems not to load my qml |
| 16:54.17 | merlin1991 | how can I debug if qtquick even finds my qml file? |
| 16:54.46 | djszapiN9 | it does if path is correct |
| 16:56.05 | merlin1991 | well the qml file is in the same path as the python file and the filename is correct |
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| 18:54.15 | bindi | how exactly are different NFC versions supposed to work together? why won't they work at all? (assuming the version is different, can't even see that anywhere) |
| 18:54.30 | bindi | tried NFC between an N9 and my galaxy nexus, nothing :) |
| 18:58.29 | frals | probably because android is using NFC to share stuff in one way and n9 some other way |
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| 19:04.38 | beford | anyone used TransferUI ? i'm having problems getting it to work |
| 19:04.52 | djszapi | what problems beford ? |
| 19:05.02 | beford | segfaults xD |
| 19:05.24 | beford | its probably my fault I'm using the example from the library |
| 19:06.00 | djszapi | oh :) |
| 19:07.33 | beford | just wanted to see if there was a better example available, I will check later when I finish my work |
| 19:09.06 | itsnotabigtruck | bindi: in the PR1.2 changelog it says they removed 'android ndef push protocol' support |
| 19:09.14 | itsnotabigtruck | (which is used by android for NFC) |
| 19:09.25 | bindi | itsnotabigtruck: why would they do that? |
| 19:09.35 | itsnotabigtruck | well, i think there's another more standard protocol |
| 19:09.52 | itsnotabigtruck | if android supports both, and N9's ndef support is broken, that could be the issue |
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| 19:10.31 | bindi | silly :) friend and I are disappointed that it didn't work |
| 19:10.41 | itsnotabigtruck | For NDEF push to function properly the other NFC device must support either NFC Forum's SNEP (Simple Ndef Exchange Protocol), or Android's "com.android.npp" (Ndef Push Protocol). This was optional on Gingerbread level Android NFC devices, but SNEP is mandatory on Ice-Cream-Sandwich and beyond. |
| 19:11.05 | itsnotabigtruck | so you might need PR1.2 and a relatively new android phone for it to work |
| 19:11.07 | bindi | well the nexus is an ICS phone |
| 19:11.10 | itsnotabigtruck | or just the latter |
| 19:11.25 | bindi | wait, is PR1.2 out yet or is it the update that brings folders? |
| 19:11.34 | bindi | not sure, my friend is the N9 guy |
| 19:12.09 | itsnotabigtruck | it's not out yet, it's in beta |
| 19:12.14 | itsnotabigtruck | but not for us N9 peons |
| 19:12.20 | itsnotabigtruck | only holders of N950 developer units |
| 19:12.43 | merlin1991 | djszapi: I fixed my qml problem |
| 19:12.58 | merlin1991 | stripping down my qml to the bare minimum and suddenly it appeared |
| 19:13.49 | djszapi | *nods* |
| 19:14.02 | djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/live_build_log?arch=armv7el&package=grantlee&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard -> anybody any ideas for this ? :) |
| 19:14.18 | djszapi | what doesn't dh_makeshlibs like ? |
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| 19:24.48 | djszapi | heh, someone put into his patch: Reviewed-by: "Trust me" :) |
| 19:27.59 | mgedmin | reminds me of Honest Achmed's Used Cars and SSL Certificates |
| 19:28.20 | mgedmin | best bug ever -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=647959 |
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| 19:31.17 | itsnotabigtruck | mgedmin: bahaha |
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| 19:37.09 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, ping? |
| 19:39.00 | GeneralAntilles | Or any qualified EE, actually. |
| 19:39.11 | GeneralAntilles | My vacuum cleaner has a radio controller in the handle. |
| 19:39.14 | GeneralAntilles | 915MHz |
| 19:39.40 | GeneralAntilles | But it's got this tiny little loop antenna that mostly requires putting the handle on the vacuum to get it to actually work. |
| 19:40.50 | GeneralAntilles | I'm wondering if I solder a length of 30AWG magnet wire to it if things will improve. |
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| 20:34.51 | beford | :D transferui works |
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| 21:00.38 | Venemo | hey everyone :) |
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| 21:33.01 | beford | hi Venemo |
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| 21:34.37 | Venemo | hi beford |
| 21:35.15 | Venemo | ~seen faenil |
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| 22:51.02 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: most likely a tuning of the TX LC will yield better results tan soldering random wire to the antenna |
| 22:53.00 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: I'd check the RX side antenna (position, orientation, distance to metal objects etc) |
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| 23:40.49 | GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, already soldered the random wire. *g* It seems to have helped. |
| 23:41.06 | GeneralAntilles | Don't feel like disassembling the vacuum itself to hunt for the RX board. |
| 23:50.33 | HAMIDx9_ | i installed develsh (deb) manually but when i execute it i haven't root access |
| 23:51.17 | HAMIDx9_ | i installed it because of my internet problem and i cant enable dev-mode from setting |
| 23:51.32 | HAMIDx9_ | any suggestion ? |
| 23:51.35 | mgedmin | develsh doesn't give you root |
| 23:51.38 | mgedmin | devel-su gives you root |
| 23:51.51 | mgedmin | (after you've enabled developer mode, at least) |
| 23:52.13 | mgedmin | it *sucks* that one can't enable dev mode while offline |
| 23:52.38 | HAMIDx9_ | so it's impossible to enable dev-mode offline ? |
| 23:53.22 | mgedmin | I dunno; I assume so from what I hear people saying here |
| 23:53.47 | itsnotabigtruck | more or less impossible, yeah |
| 23:54.01 | itsnotabigtruck | since you only have to do it once, i doubt see why it's such a huge point of contention |
| 23:54.23 | itsnotabigtruck | a phone that's offline isn't exactly good for much anyway |
| 23:54.58 | itsnotabigtruck | also HAMIDx9_: you'll find yourself using this command a lot :p |
| 23:55.06 | itsnotabigtruck | devel-su -c develsh |
| 23:55.36 | HAMIDx9_ | yeah , but my problem is about that nokia doesn't support our country |
| 23:55.51 | HAMIDx9_ | manually i cant install devel-su |
| 23:56.00 | itsnotabigtruck | HAMIDx9_: what do you mean? i'm pretty sure you can install packages from anywhere on the planet |
| 23:56.07 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: I had good results with following procedure: open up RC-TX, increase distance to RX until fail, then some meters more, ude PLASTIC screwdriver to adjust the small variable capacitor in TX while sending, until RX reacts |
| 23:56.24 | itsnotabigtruck | if your home internet is dead, you could go find an internet hotspot or something |
| 23:56.38 | DocScrutinizer | s/ude/use/ |
| 23:57.01 | HAMIDx9_ | but it seems its impossible and here we have problem |
| 23:57.16 | itsnotabigtruck | also HAMIDx9_: you should uninstall devel-sh also |
| 23:57.19 | HAMIDx9_ | i have to use VPN or Socks or HTTP proxy for enable dev-mode |
| 23:57.48 | itsnotabigtruck | if you install develsh directly from the .deb, it won't work |
| 23:58.01 | itsnotabigtruck | do develsh -c 'accli -I' |
| 23:58.08 | itsnotabigtruck | it should have about 20 entries |
| 23:58.09 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: find the two positions of C where RX stops to react, adjust C to middle between those 2 pos |
| 23:58.15 | itsnotabigtruck | if it's more like 5 entries, develsh is misinstalled |
| 23:58.59 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: redo with some meters more distance |
| 23:59.39 | DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: until RX never reacts, then go back to prev pos and setting |