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04:26.02 | djszapi | What do I do wrong ? The Column is not vertically in the middle for the landscape mode :/ http://paste.xinu.at/JmdnS/ |
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04:45.17 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: do you ever sleep, at all? :O |
04:45.56 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: please keep on topic :P |
04:48.45 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm going to take that as a no |
04:49.34 | djszapi | if that makes you feel happy, please do :D |
04:56.25 | beford | isn't it early in .fi? |
04:58.26 | djszapi | depends on the life style of a person, I guess. |
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05:23.43 | djszapi | any ideas for the vertical center issue ? |
05:43.42 | Sazpaimon | djszapi, when you're done with kanagram any chance you could do that steam chat thing :3 |
05:43.50 | Sazpaimon | or at least get me a base that I can work on |
05:44.00 | Sazpaimon | i cannot figure out telepathy and accounts for the life of me |
05:44.56 | djszapi | not really, the next one is khangman |
05:45.06 | Sazpaimon | :( |
05:45.17 | Sazpaimon | not even just a bare project with stubs? |
05:45.38 | djszapi | no, and then qt5 and kde frameworks tasks, sorry |
05:45.47 | djszapi | my backlog is already very long |
05:45.54 | Sazpaimon | well youre the only one I know that knows anything about telepathy |
05:51.43 | Tronic | itsnotabigtruck: You know, with modafinil one can remove the need to sleep entirely. |
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06:18.01 | djszapi | I cannot apparently put a Column into the vertical Center of a page :( |
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06:52.31 | itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: you could clone an existing connection manager and gut everything out |
06:52.37 | itsnotabigtruck | though that might not be the easiest way to start the project |
06:53.39 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm not telepathic either but it it ought to be possible for you to sort it out |
06:54.31 | djszapi | does one havethe vkb soundeffect by off-hand ? The one for pressing a key. |
06:55.27 | itsnotabigtruck | can't you figure out where the wav file is and load it? |
06:57.09 | djszapi | if I could I would already do that. |
06:58.15 | djszapi | ok figured out |
06:59.03 | djszapi | http://www.danitxu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/feo.jpg -> nice picture. :) |
07:07.10 | djszapi | well, I cannot figure out the vkb sound effect. |
07:12.42 | djszapi | ah it is the sliding file. |
07:26.28 | djszapi | How can I get my button resized if I change the text to a longer one, like this ? http://paste.xinu.at/bW1CA/ |
07:26.34 | djszapi | Play Game -> Resume Game. |
07:37.44 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-text.html?tab=1#elide-prop -> something like this, I guess. |
07:39.43 | itsnotabigtruck | crap, it's almost 2am already |
07:41.08 | djszapi | well, the volunteer day begins soon |
07:41.33 | itsnotabigtruck | i just realized i didn't say this before so ^ grats on getting your game into the store |
07:41.53 | djszapi | thanks, update coming tomorrow :) |
07:41.57 | djszapi | with a much better UX |
07:44.01 | djszapi | interesting I cannot use the same theme url syntax for the platform sounds as in case of the platform icons. |
07:46.53 | djszapi | begins patching Qt Mobility. |
07:59.16 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpZbQfTrXMA |
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11:30.37 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: captcha on nitdroid forums is horrible but letters are all the same all the time |
11:40.29 | djszapi | err...seriously, is it possible to have a page with a column inside resiging horizontically and vertically in the middle ? |
11:54.12 | e-yes | ZogG_laptop, they aren't |
12:14.24 | e-yes | ZogG_laptop, but sometimes after F5 it's the same, yeah |
12:22.33 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: all i tried are the same |
12:22.45 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: not sure if it sents email btw |
12:23.11 | ZogG_laptop | i still didn't get registration email =( |
12:37.08 | e-yes | fucking gmail |
12:37.25 | e-yes | they mark all outgoing mails as spam |
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12:49.04 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes: not in spam |
12:54.38 | e-yes | they mark it in MY mailbox |
12:56.06 | e-yes | http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=ru&answer=69585 |
12:57.55 | ZogG_laptop | can you approve me |
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13:06.48 | e-yes | ZogG_laptop, I activated your account |
13:22.32 | e-yes | ZogG_laptop, could you check your email, pls |
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14:16.29 | Venemo_N950 | hm |
14:17.12 | djszapi | faenil: Venemo_N950 rzr o/ |
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14:26.41 | faenil | o/ djszapi |
14:27.15 | djszapi | faenil: Venemo_N950 do you know how put a column into the middle of a page (vertically) ? |
14:29.00 | faenil | anchors.verticalCenter? :O |
14:30.01 | djszapi | did not work for me. |
14:30.28 | faenil | it should...code snippet? |
14:31.05 | djszapi | https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainPage.qml |
14:31.54 | faenil | you're specifying both fill and verticalcenter... |
14:32.20 | djszapi | yep, I am trying everything |
14:32.25 | djszapi | started without fill for sure. |
14:33.06 | djszapi | even tried with a rectangle container, or container for the buttons, like Item. |
14:33.11 | djszapi | I just cannot get it work :/ |
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14:33.36 | faenil | with fill and center it won't work, for sure |
14:33.54 | djszapi | that is not really the problem, go on :) |
14:34.03 | djszapi | consider the fill is not there, and still does not work. |
14:34.21 | faenil | just try anchors.centerIn: parent |
14:34.30 | faenil | and see if it gets centered in the page |
14:34.43 | faenil | delete all other anchors |
14:35.37 | djszapi | tried that too this morning |
14:35.49 | djszapi | that was my first try. |
14:36.01 | djszapi | because my idea isto get it horizontically and vertically in the middle. |
14:36.01 | faenil | have you tried clean all? |
14:36.03 | djszapi | all the buttons. |
14:36.07 | djszapi | clean all ? |
14:36.09 | faenil | maybe it's not deploying the latest qml |
14:36.39 | faenil | clean all, then run qmake |
14:36.42 | faenil | then run :) |
14:36.48 | faenil | or cmake |
14:36.49 | djszapi | it is qml ... |
14:37.18 | faenil | I know but you never know...it happened that the correct qml was not being deployed... |
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14:37.56 | djszapi | I edit it onthe device fyi |
14:38.05 | faenil | oh ok |
14:38.21 | faenil | then try specifying width and height of the page |
14:38.27 | faenil | it could be getting weird info about the page |
14:38.31 | djszapi | heh it now works. |
14:38.41 | faenil | :) |
14:38.45 | faenil | what made it work? |
14:39.01 | djszapi | a lot of pray to the Godhead. :) |
14:39.09 | faenil | lol |
14:39.11 | faenil | no come on |
14:39.12 | faenil | :D |
14:39.51 | djszapi | also, there is thingy issue here ... so that if I change the button text to a longer stuff, it gets ellided, so why not auto-size calculation ? No ellide is the default for the text by the way. |
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14:41.04 | djszapi | tried childrenRect, too |
14:42.32 | djszapi | faenil: ^ |
14:42.47 | faenil | I don't know what ellide means, let me look it up :D |
14:43.38 | djszapi | cropped text |
14:43.44 | djszapi | "faenil" -> "faen.." |
14:43.49 | itsnotabigtruck | *elide, not ellide, i think |
14:44.04 | faenil | oh right |
14:44.07 | faenil | yes elide |
14:44.09 | itsnotabigtruck | though i wouldn't call that elision... |
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14:44.16 | djszapi | check out the text man. |
14:44.24 | faenil | yes I got it djszapi |
14:44.25 | itsnotabigtruck | elision's almost the opposite of truncation |
14:45.05 | djszapi | faenil: so for instance, if I change "Play Game" to "Resume Game", it occurs. |
14:45.19 | faenil | you see Resume Ga.." right |
14:45.29 | djszapi | yep |
14:45.56 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: can't you just make your buttons wider? |
14:46.18 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: it is not me calculating a hard coded size, so the answer is "no". |
14:46.30 | itsnotabigtruck | then calculate a hardcoded size and put it in :D |
14:46.35 | djszapi | is checking out the Button code whether they change the elide trail. |
14:47.22 | faenil | maybe you need to set Wrapmode once you've set noElide |
14:47.22 | djszapi | elide: Text.ElideRight |
14:47.24 | djszapi | damn them |
14:47.45 | itsnotabigtruck | you're probably going to say that's an l20n problem, but it could be fixed up if there ever actually end up being localizations, and replaced with some code that measures both play game and resume game and picks the larger width |
14:47.46 | faenil | oh so you have a button, not text :P |
14:48.13 | djszapi | yes, that is what have discussed |
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14:48.26 | djszapi | apparently they do not propagate it to the public API either |
14:48.33 | djszapi | sounds like a feature patch from me. |
14:48.39 | faenil | right I didn't read it was button text |
14:48.46 | djszapi | so I cannot change this feature of the button :/ |
14:49.04 | faenil | that sucks |
14:49.04 | djszapi | notthat it ever gets released, but still |
14:49.19 | faenil | so you can't have multiline buttons |
14:49.30 | faenil | could be an implementation choice actually... |
14:49.43 | itsnotabigtruck | this kinda stuff is why qt's excessive implementation hiding is evil |
14:50.11 | djszapi | ok patch done, putting it to gitorious for a MR |
14:50.14 | itsnotabigtruck | making the pImpl public and accessing it through the private headers would solve so many edge case problems |
14:50.36 | djszapi | " Play Game " |
14:50.39 | djszapi | workaround ^^ |
14:50.41 | itsnotabigtruck | i mean, only if you know wtf you're doing, but right now things break if you want to do anything weird |
14:50.44 | itsnotabigtruck | and heh |
14:50.53 | itsnotabigtruck | that's even worse than the hardcoded width... |
14:51.01 | djszapi | does not work for translation. |
14:51.06 | itsnotabigtruck | neither does ^ |
14:51.09 | djszapi | but since I do not support it |
14:51.15 | djszapi | it is not an issue to me. |
14:51.17 | itsnotabigtruck | it relies on "resume game" only being a tiny bit wider than "play game" |
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14:52.35 | Venemo_N950 | hey guys |
14:52.35 | djszapi | has soon almost the whole qt-components' local copy (patched version) in place. |
14:53.01 | Venemo_N950 | djszapi, the refactored irc-chatter is now in a working state :) |
14:53.29 | djszapi | itsnotabigtruck: which it is |
14:53.34 | djszapi | so I do not see a problem |
14:53.42 | djszapi | Venemo_N950: good :) |
14:53.56 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: so it's no better of a solution than just fixing the width |
14:54.04 | itsnotabigtruck | but a bit more hacky |
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14:54.32 | djszapi | not really |
14:54.39 | djszapi | because with my way it is not hard coded |
14:54.53 | Venemo_N950 | djszapi, I still need to fix a couple of bugs and then I'll make a new release |
14:54.54 | djszapi | so it can be checked on the desktop if someone wishes and the like. |
14:56.01 | djszapi | faenil: oopsie, ButtonStyle might be capable to override the elide trail. |
14:56.56 | faenil | mmm, good :D |
14:58.12 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: erm, yeah, you're just hiding the hardcoding |
14:58.16 | itsnotabigtruck | stubbornness...>_> |
14:59.11 | djszapi | woke up for arguing ? |
14:59.22 | djszapi | I am not a partner in that sorry :) |
14:59.39 | faenil | djszapi: but there's no elide property in button style.. |
15:00.01 | djszapi | that is what I was checking in the source code. |
15:00.21 | djszapi | my internet has half a min lag right now to type here something. |
15:00.41 | djszapi | I even tried it out actually, and it does not really work |
15:01.28 | djszapi | well, this is a fail they did not expose it. |
15:03.59 | faenil | yeah... |
15:05.39 | djszapi | they did not expose the textMode either. |
15:06.26 | faenil | -.- |
15:06.39 | djszapi | and this is the exact reason why I said previously exposing a full embedded component nicely is very important |
15:06.42 | djszapi | when nobody understood |
15:07.06 | djszapi | because if that is viable, there is no situation, like "oopsie, something is not exposed, and cumbersome to hack around". |
15:07.31 | faenil | yeah |
15:07.37 | faenil | it's neeeded |
15:07.50 | djszapi | and you cannot .. just do that in qml1. |
15:08.24 | faenil | but you can in qml2? |
15:09.17 | djszapi | no |
15:09.22 | djszapi | afaiu |
15:09.53 | djszapi | well ... you can do ways, but none of them are nice. |
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15:41.50 | djszapi | interesting, I cannot pass a margin to Flickable, nor to Column ? |
15:48.42 | faenil | ?? |
15:49.33 | djszapi | well if you have a flickable page and you wanna have margins |
15:49.38 | djszapi | you need to make a container. |
15:49.54 | faenil | margins on what |
15:50.07 | djszapi | anything seriously. |
15:50.11 | djszapi | for instance a settings page. |
15:50.21 | faenil | please describe a complete example |
15:50.26 | djszapi | you do not really wanna draw the elements from 0-854 |
15:50.49 | djszapi | Complete: open up almost any application, but for instance settings |
15:51.47 | djszapi | it is a problem when you have a rectangle in the page for getting black background for otherwise a pagewindowstack having a png image as background. |
15:52.00 | djszapi | long story short: Flickable does not respect the margin settings. |
15:52.01 | djszapi | nor does Column. |
15:52.27 | trx | place the items in a rect, and set the margins |
15:52.33 | trx | whats the problem with that? |
15:52.46 | djszapi | no need for rect |
15:53.01 | djszapi | a simple item is enough for working around, but I was not talking about the workaround, but the limitation. |
15:53.03 | trx | afaik, Flickable is not a visual component |
15:53.04 | djszapi | which is serious imo. |
15:53.14 | trx | it should not have visual margins |
15:53.16 | faenil | flickable needs a children item |
15:53.18 | djszapi | but the content is |
15:53.22 | faenil | yeah |
15:53.51 | trx | so you set margins to the content |
15:53.55 | djszapi | right, and you cannot set up the content margin. |
15:54.02 | djszapi | that is the point, I cannot. |
15:54.06 | faenil | let me understand correctly |
15:54.08 | faenil | you have a flickable |
15:54.09 | djszapi | that is why it is serious. |
15:54.14 | faenil | and put a page inside it? |
15:54.17 | trx | no, its not |
15:54.35 | djszapi | it is not serious to set up a margin for content ? LOL |
15:54.43 | djszapi | faenil: sort of, yes and no |
15:54.45 | trx | Page - Rect(with margins) - Flickable - content |
15:54.50 | djszapi | it is yet another limitation why I need to hack around |
15:54.55 | djszapi | trx: and that is hack |
15:55.04 | djszapi | and I already said I did that even if Rectangle is quite useless |
15:55.07 | djszapi | Item is enough |
15:55.14 | trx | its not a hack as Flickable is not a visual component |
15:55.26 | djszapi | but the content /is/ |
15:55.28 | trx | yeah, item or whatever, i just gave an example |
15:55.54 | trx | i dont understand the problem |
15:56.03 | faenil | I'm sorry but I don't understand what you need the margins for, can't make a picture in my mind, can't help |
15:56.26 | djszapi | heh, no sorry, if you do not understand nvm. |
15:56.33 | djszapi | I need to move on. |
15:56.40 | faenil | then move on :) |
15:56.43 | trx | good luck :) |
15:57.05 | djszapi | I would expect Column respecting the margin. |
15:57.10 | djszapi | without having any explicit Item. |
15:58.27 | djszapi | Proper fix would be to fixthe qt-component limitation about the background management for PageStackWindow/Page. |
15:59.19 | djszapi | because then I could set the page margin, but in this special case, I just simply cannot. |
15:59.26 | djszapi | I need yet another useless container item |
16:00.44 | djszapi | faenil: code is here, representing the issue: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml |
16:02.55 | djszapi | faenil: screenshot: http://minus.com/mcnkbnHPH#1 |
16:11.00 | faenil | djszapi: giving a look at it now ;) |
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16:11.20 | faenil | the sound switch goes offscreen? :O |
16:13.13 | djszapi | yes |
16:15.46 | djszapi | but that is a simple fix |
16:18.49 | faenil | it seems that page is wider than the real screen.. |
16:18.57 | faenil | all separators go offscreen too |
16:19.12 | djszapi | yes, but again, do not hijack :) |
16:19.31 | faenil | ok so what's the problem? :) |
16:19.40 | djszapi | look at the qml |
16:19.44 | faenil | I am |
16:19.45 | djszapi | I have an "Item" |
16:19.56 | faenil | for the switch thing? |
16:20.00 | djszapi | nope |
16:20.03 | djszapi | for the Flickable thingy |
16:20.14 | djszapi | and I would not need that ideally, just margins for the "Page". |
16:20.22 | faenil | you mean the parent of the flickable? |
16:20.29 | djszapi | but since I need to have a Rectangle for exceedingn the limitation of qt-components |
16:20.33 | djszapi | I have this hackish Item |
16:20.36 | djszapi | yup |
16:21.35 | faenil | so Flickable { anchors.fill:parent; margins:10 , WITHOUT specifying width and height doesn't work? |
16:21.43 | djszapi | faenil: I think why the right side is out is because of the margins. |
16:22.00 | djszapi | faenil: nope. |
16:22.25 | faenil | mmm |
16:23.03 | faenil | let me make some attempts |
16:24.52 | djszapi | faenil: you think Flickable respects the margins with filling the parent in ? |
16:25.11 | faenil | don't know, |
16:25.16 | faenil | I'm trying some thigns |
16:25.50 | djszapi | and if I set margins, the flickable thingy puts the right side out :/ |
16:26.34 | faenil | mmm |
16:26.54 | faenil | I'll copy here, because it's really short |
16:26.55 | faenil | Page { |
16:26.55 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:26.55 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:26.55 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:26.55 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:26.56 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:26.58 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:27.00 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:27.02 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:27.05 | faenil | <PROTECTED> |
16:27.06 | faenil | } |
16:27.10 | faenil | that works... I mean the rectangle is centered with 20 margin |
16:27.56 | djszapi | okay, so it seems there is no need for such a hackery aforementioned. |
16:28.01 | djszapi | I just need to figure out why it does not work here. |
16:28.11 | faenil | yeah |
16:28.22 | djszapi | also, I am not sure how to fix the right side issue nicely. |
16:28.34 | djszapi | of course I could subtractthe margin manually ... |
16:28.44 | djszapi | but that is not nice |
16:29.28 | djszapi | probably still the best. |
16:29.35 | faenil | :) dunno actually |
16:30.03 | djszapi | also, please do not paste here above 3 lines :) |
16:30.12 | djszapi | since you start, everybody could ask this for being fair :P |
16:30.31 | faenil | :D |
16:31.58 | faenil | I guess it's because you're using margins in Item, |
16:32.12 | faenil | but then using width: parent.width and height:parent.height in the Flickable |
16:32.21 | faenil | so it doesn't take margins into account |
16:33.00 | djszapi | faenil: I frankly think Column should respect the margins settings too |
16:33.43 | faenil | you should set Flickable to anchors.fill:parent |
16:33.51 | faenil | and column as width: flickable.width |
16:33.56 | faenil | that way it should work |
16:33.56 | djszapi | it is done in the local version |
16:34.03 | djszapi | but did not commit since it did not work so far |
16:34.14 | faenil | ok...then I don't know should need to try :) |
16:34.22 | faenil | I'll keep working on the thesis now :) |
16:36.59 | faenil | reboot |
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17:02.02 | faenil | djszapi: is there any way to recover a kde paste (paste.kde.org) that has been deleted? |
17:02.30 | djszapi | you mean expired ? |
17:02.54 | faenil | http://paste.kde.org/206180/ |
17:05.50 | djszapi | it was deleted or expired ? |
17:06.00 | djszapi | I do not think they delete it explicitely. |
17:06.51 | faenil | I don't know.. |
17:10.01 | djszapi | in any case, #kde-sysadmin |
17:10.36 | faenil | ok |
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17:47.44 | Sazpaimon | can python telepathy plugins be submitted to the nokia store |
17:49.11 | djszapi | why not ? |
17:49.16 | djszapi | There are already plugins in ovi store. |
17:49.54 | Sazpaimon | yes but telepathy-python isnt instealled by default |
17:50.34 | Sazpaimon | if I include it as a dependancy will the store app figure that out? |
17:51.13 | djszapi | check whether you can fetch it from the apps repository. |
17:51.28 | djszapi | if you can, it works, otherwise nope. |
17:52.51 | Sazpaimon | it installs python-central python-dbus python-telepathy from the maemo nokia repository |
17:53.17 | Sazpaimon | so I guess it should work |
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17:54.20 | itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: my understanding is that anything in the main repo is in-limits |
17:54.55 | Sazpaimon | and i suppose the way to package plugins is to package in the accounts plugin and the telapathy plugin in a single deb |
17:54.59 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. can you install it with pkgmgr install-file -f on a phone with the main default repo |
17:55.01 | itsnotabigtruck | only |
17:55.04 | djszapi | Sazpaimon: iow, if you can install it without adding further reposiroties |
17:55.05 | djszapi | it works. |
17:55.20 | itsnotabigtruck | if it requires additional non-main-repo packages then it's off-limits |
17:55.24 | Sazpaimon | rather than have a seperate account plugin and telepathy plugin ala maemo |
17:56.05 | Sazpaimon | I know extraplugins actually packages with it all of libpurple |
17:56.24 | djszapi | yeah, package it into one |
17:56.29 | djszapi | simpler to distribute |
17:57.04 | Sazpaimon | yeah |
17:57.11 | Sazpaimon | it just makes the filesystem more of a mess in the end |
17:57.44 | Sazpaimon | i guess its no worse than maemo 5's distaster of an /opt partition |
17:58.07 | Sazpaimon | but that could easily be automated in the build process thanks to optify |
17:58.31 | itsnotabigtruck | if you don't mind staying out of the ovi store, you could partition everything in the proper way |
17:58.51 | itsnotabigtruck | everybody keeps confining themselves to what the store will allow, forget that |
17:59.23 | itsnotabigtruck | also this steam telepathy thing has applications outside of the n9 |
17:59.49 | Sazpaimon | there's already a steam chat client for mono, though |
18:00.03 | Sazpaimon | so regular linux can take advantage of a "full" client |
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18:00.33 | itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: but not through telepathy |
18:00.39 | itsnotabigtruck | that mono client is seriously ghetto |
18:00.48 | itsnotabigtruck | this would make it possible to install steam chat into empathy |
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18:01.07 | Sazpaimon | idealy the pidgin devs should just make it part of libpurple |
18:01.11 | Sazpaimon | but they dont seem interested |
18:01.19 | blueslee | hello, does someone now if there are command line dbus commands for getting cellid etc? |
18:01.34 | itsnotabigtruck | the pidgin developers aren't particularly interested in anything |
18:01.37 | Sazpaimon | anyway, here's what I'll do |
18:01.47 | Sazpaimon | i'll make a store-compliant version for N9 |
18:01.58 | Sazpaimon | and an N900 version that seperates into two debs |
18:02.02 | itsnotabigtruck | blueslee: there are, though i don't know off-hand |
18:02.05 | itsnotabigtruck | what's it for? |
18:02.12 | Sazpaimon | the N900 version should be usable on regular linux |
18:02.53 | itsnotabigtruck | there's no reason to keep the proper version off the n9 |
18:03.01 | itsnotabigtruck | but anyway, how about implementing it actually first :p |
18:03.05 | itsnotabigtruck | distribution can come later |
18:03.28 | Sazpaimon | well now that I'm confident that I can make it using telepathy-python it makes my job easier |
18:03.40 | itsnotabigtruck | i just hate the idea that people are screwing up their apps based on arbitrary ovi impositions |
18:03.45 | Sazpaimon | i'll just look at how butterfly handles it |
18:03.54 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: something like cellid -> station -> monitoring departure on low power screen of n9 |
18:03.55 | itsnotabigtruck | especially since the main userbase probably isn't going to be the sort of person who only looks at the ovi store anyway |
18:04.04 | ZogG_laptop | client for what? |
18:04.12 | itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: steam chat |
18:04.46 | ZogG_laptop | like videocalls? |
18:04.54 | Sazpaimon | erm |
18:04.59 | ZogG_laptop | steam from Steam - the shop? |
18:05.01 | Sazpaimon | steam doesnt do video calls |
18:05.05 | itsnotabigtruck | no...since when did steam have anything to do with video |
18:05.18 | itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: just a reminder, since you're using the steam http api, be super careful to escape everything |
18:05.21 | blueslee | itsnotabigtruck: i know the commands on the n900 but they do not work on the n9, dbus-monitoring was not very helpful yet |
18:05.24 | itsnotabigtruck | if that's needed |
18:05.29 | Sazpaimon | steam has voice chat though |
18:05.32 | ZogG_laptop | damn right my bad i somehower thought of stream =) |
18:05.39 | Sazpaimon | i dont think the webapi can accomplish that |
18:05.50 | Sazpaimon | nor do i think it'd be incredibly useful |
18:06.03 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, steam voice chat is for talking while gaming |
18:06.18 | Sazpaimon | and everyone uses teamspeak, ventrilo, and mumble for that |
18:06.41 | ZogG_laptop | thise gamers =) |
18:06.42 | itsnotabigtruck | i hate how no one uses built-in game chat these days |
18:07.02 | Sazpaimon | the latest versions of the source engine is supposed to mitigate that |
18:07.14 | Sazpaimon | because the voice quality is drastically improved since they changed codecs |
18:07.23 | itsnotabigtruck | generally everyone either a) doesn't have a mic, b) has a mic but is too n00b to configure it correctly, c) is only interested in talking to their clan or whatnot over mumble etc. |
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18:07.51 | itsnotabigtruck | instead of strategizing on the game voice |
18:09.01 | Sazpaimon | guess I need to write the accounts plugin from scratch |
18:09.15 | Sazpaimon | since butterfly uses something called liblongcat |
18:09.22 | Sazpaimon | that ive never heard of |
18:09.34 | Sazpaimon | "A base plugin for writing accounts plugins, which makes it easier and needs" |
18:09.38 | Sazpaimon | ok, so why call it liblongcat |
18:14.54 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
18:15.06 | itsnotabigtruck | because it sounds awesome |
18:15.28 | itsnotabigtruck | http://longc.at/longcat |
18:15.38 | itsnotabigtruck | that's why it's liblongcat |
18:16.16 | Sazpaimon | i have an ascii version of that pic for irc spamming |
18:16.22 | itsnotabigtruck | haha |
18:16.25 | faenil_ | has anybody got experience with android programming? |
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18:22.51 | djszapi | faenil: RST38h has. |
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18:23.48 | faenil | I'm going crazy with filetype recognition... |
18:23.48 | faenil | RST38h: ping |
18:25.04 | djszapi | and I might have pretty soon some ;p |
18:26.57 | RST38h | faeniL; yes, what? |
18:27.18 | faenil | need help with filetype recognition via manifest on android, can you help? |
18:27.26 | RST38h | I think so |
18:27.32 | faenil | wonderful :D |
18:27.33 | faenil | pm? |
18:27.42 | RST38h | whatever you like |
18:27.55 | RST38h | You want your app to open files from the file manager or what? |
18:29.53 | faenil | yes, and from browser |
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18:54.17 | pa | hi |
18:55.06 | pa | im sorry im a newbie of harmattan, just got today my N9. but i have a question: i bought an unlocked phone, but it was locked. so i called the phone company who gave me the unlock code |
18:55.32 | pa | but i dont know how to dial #pw on the N9 |
18:55.38 | pa | i can dial p |
18:55.42 | pa | but i dont get the w |
18:56.14 | pa | i read i should press * 4 times, but it cycles after three |
19:01.21 | blueslee | i thought that an incoming notification on the lockscreen would disappear after a certain amount of time ... i have to reboot for this. anyone else with this issue? bug? |
19:03.03 | RST38h | finally found an application that makes N950 stumble and hang |
19:03.19 | RST38h | Could have guessed before installing it, actually... |
19:03.24 | faenil | anyone who can help with filetype recognition on android? |
19:04.11 | djszapi | faenil: have you tried #android or their development channel ? |
19:04.21 | faenil | yes : |
19:04.28 | faenil | dev channel |
19:04.32 | faenil | none answers to my question xD |
19:04.48 | djszapi | try the mailing, and forum too |
19:05.17 | pa | no one has idea how to dial "w" in the N9? |
19:05.26 | RST38h | kinda remembers answering a while ago |
19:05.46 | faenil | RST38h: yes, I sent you other pms and you didn't answer, so I thought you didn't know how to help me :) |
19:06.17 | faenil | don't know if you haven't received messages or what else :) |
19:08.36 | faenil | ehm :P |
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19:11.43 | faenil | RST38h: did I say anything wrong? XD |
19:14.09 | ZogG_laptop | faenil: why do u want dial «w» |
19:14.31 | faenil | it wasn't me :D |
19:14.39 | pa | ZogG_laptop, to debrand it |
19:14.45 | pa | i have the debranding code |
19:14.54 | pa | but i cannot dial #pw |
19:14.58 | pa | coz i cannot dial the w |
19:15.14 | pa | in the instructions i got from the operator, they say to press * 4 times |
19:15.26 | pa | but after 3 times, it simply cycles back to * |
19:17.17 | ZogG_laptop | what do you mena by debrand? |
19:17.30 | pa | like to use a sim from another operator |
19:18.36 | ZogG_laptop | pa - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79491 |
19:18.59 | ZogG_laptop | pa - it should be unlocked by default? have you tried to reset factory settings and flash it? |
19:20.53 | djszapi | pa I can second this with stock kernel and device |
19:22.02 | pa | djszapi, you mean that by default it is unlocked? |
19:22.07 | pa | i havent tried to flash it |
19:22.08 | pa | no.. |
19:22.25 | pa | can i download the flash from nokia.com? |
19:23.15 | djszapi | as I said, it does not help for me. |
19:23.24 | djszapi | I have the same UX as you with stock kernel. |
19:23.38 | pa | meaning you cannot dial the w? |
19:23.53 | djszapi | yes, as you described. |
19:24.00 | pa | ah okay.. |
19:24.09 | pa | so there+s no way to unbrand this phone? |
19:24.23 | pa | i called nokia just now, and they say i should press star four times.. |
19:24.27 | pa | i mean, if they dont know it.. |
19:24.45 | djszapi | do you have PR1.1 ? |
19:24.50 | pa | i think so |
19:25.03 | pa | you mean PR1 |
19:25.12 | djszapi | I have Pr1.2 on my n9 |
19:25.19 | pa | ah ok 1.1 |
19:25.22 | pa | yes |
19:25.22 | djszapi | but if it happens with PR1.1 too... |
19:25.38 | djszapi | Could anybody claim the opposite here ? |
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19:28.29 | Corsac | hmhm, I need to send the n9 back to nokia care, I got a RMA stuff for mail back, do I really need to put there every accessories? |
19:28.36 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: sneeky man =) |
19:29.16 | ZogG_laptop | i have 1.1 and it happenns the same |
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19:33.50 | faenil | RST38h: I beg for your help, lol |
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19:46.34 | pa | and by the way, do you know how to change or reset the skype account on the N9? |
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19:54.44 | pa | also, what does change in PR1.2? |
19:55.16 | djszapi | it is not out there yet, so no final changelog. |
19:55.29 | djszapi | but you can at least check the available draft. |
19:55.32 | djszapi | for N950 |
19:55.48 | smokex | would be nice if I was able to connect to the net using my N950 again |
19:56.14 | smokex | connect my pc to the net through n950 |
19:56.54 | smokex | for not switched back to C7 |
19:56.57 | smokex | now |
19:57.16 | djszapi | smokex: and what is your precise issue ? |
19:57.33 | djszapi | joikuspot is your friend. |
19:58.06 | smokex | the upgrade of Nokia Suite made connection through N950 impossible |
19:59.02 | itsnotabigtruck | it seems to work if you add it on an old version of nokia suite, then upgrade |
19:59.09 | itsnotabigtruck | but i haven't gone to 3.2 yet |
19:59.33 | itsnotabigtruck | also i had to re-add my n9 to nokia suite after upgrading to 3.1 |
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19:59.46 | itsnotabigtruck | it was shown as "nokia n9 (UNSUPPORTED)" or something like that in the listing |
19:59.51 | itsnotabigtruck | but it added it anyway |
20:00.00 | smokex | doesn't work on latest |
20:00.04 | smokex | at all |
20:00.17 | itsnotabigtruck | try uninstalling, installing 3.0.290, adding it, then upgrading to 3.1.x |
20:00.25 | itsnotabigtruck | you need to go offline while you launch the installer |
20:00.50 | smokex | and gives you a link to get Nokia Link |
20:01.21 | smokex | brb |
20:08.37 | pa | does anyonehere use skype on the meego? |
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20:16.55 | pa | i seriously dont get how to change account.. |
20:24.04 | djszapi | pa: delete ? |
20:24.52 | pa | skype account? but how? |
20:24.57 | pa | i cannot sign out |
20:25.01 | djszapi | bottom right corner |
20:25.06 | djszapi | press it, and then delete. |
20:25.08 | pa | i can delete users |
20:25.11 | pa | not account |
20:25.13 | pa | or..= |
20:25.14 | djszapi | and then you can add yet another |
20:25.18 | pa | hm |
20:25.19 | pa | i try |
20:26.29 | pa | so |
20:26.56 | pa | djszapi, i have only sort by, show, add group, merge contacts, import contacts, export contacts, delete contacts |
20:27.15 | djszapi | screenshot ? |
20:27.33 | pa | good question.. how do i do that? |
20:27.47 | djszapi | gst-launch-0.10 ximagesrc num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! dspjpegenc ! filesink location=shot.jpg |
20:28.14 | djszapi | but in any case: Accounts application, tap on your skype stuff |
20:28.18 | djszapi | bottom right corner, and then delete |
20:28.33 | djszapi | and then you can add a skype account again |
20:29.33 | pa | thank you so much! finally i got where it was :) |
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20:30.18 | djszapi | Venemo_N950: this is the fifth device I can reproduce the cumbersome bug in chattery... |
20:30.40 | djszapi | almost instantly. |
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20:39.37 | djszapi | Is the Nokia Ovi Store report any reliable ? It shows one download from Finland, but I for surely know at least 2 people downlong it from that place. |
20:40.01 | djszapi | downloaded*, damn la. |
20:40.02 | djszapi | lag* |
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20:52.44 | faenil | anyone with android experience ?XD |
20:53.37 | djszapi | faenil: satuday evening here, let the people have a good party :D |
20:53.45 | faenil | yeah, damnit xD |
20:54.01 | faenil | I wanna burn android in this moment |
20:54.39 | djszapi | or troll the android security model and you will find friends with the trolling as many here :) |
20:56.15 | faenil | hahaahh |
21:02.20 | djszapi | What is the best approach in QML for having a blinking text animation for the countdown timer value under 10 seconds or so ? Shall I use the ScriptAction or something else instead ? |
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21:09.00 | Venemo | hey |
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21:09.31 | Venemo | do you guys know how to send notifications in Harmattan? |
21:10.01 | djszapi | knows with MTF |
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21:11.03 | Venemo | djszapi: can you point me to the API? |
21:11.33 | djszapi | MNotification |
21:12.52 | djszapi | http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/trees/master/demos/widgetsgallery |
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21:13.22 | Venemo | djszapi: thanks :) |
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21:14.23 | djszapi | Does anybody know the icon location of the "information" icon with an 'i' letter inside ? You can find it for instance in front of the "Flight mode" switch in the settings. I have one in blue, but it would be use the platform icon directly designed for it. |
21:14.51 | djszapi | nice to use .. |
21:15.17 | djszapi | Venemo: have you joined the Hungarian Qt group ? |
21:16.09 | Venemo | djszapi: I wasn't aware that there was a Hungarian Qt group! |
21:17.18 | djszapi | http://developer.qt.nokia.com/groups/qt_hungary |
21:17.46 | Venemo | nice, thanks |
21:17.59 | Venemo | djszapi: can I set the icon of the notification to the icon of my own app? |
21:18.20 | djszapi | :) Back to my question: is there any platform icon viewer application for Harmattan ? |
21:18.37 | djszapi | it could be very useful for applicaitondevelopers to find the icons the platform is shipping. |
21:19.15 | djszapi | Venemo: yes, setImage |
21:19.20 | djszapi | Sets the name of the image to be used in the notification. If the name is an absolute path (begins with a /) an image located in that path is used. Otherwise the image name is interpreted to be an icon ID. |
21:21.21 | Venemo | djszapi: ah, okay. thanks :) |
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21:47.23 | djszapi | Is it possible to pass a text file to a text property in qml, or do I need to make the reading in C++ and call that invokable method in qml ? I would be nice to not type a help page directly in qml... :) |
21:49.19 | Venemo | djszapi: I think you'll need to write C++, or just use qsTr() and type the help text into the translation file |
21:50.03 | djszapi | Venemo: kde apps must not use qsTr() ever. |
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22:16.22 | djszapi | lol, the FingerDrums app is incredibly in Ovi ! |
22:16.34 | djszapi | incredibly awesome* |
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