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04:26.02djszapiWhat do I do wrong ? The Column is not vertically in the middle for the landscape mode :/ http://paste.xinu.at/JmdnS/
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04:45.17itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: do you ever sleep, at all? :O
04:45.56djszapiitsnotabigtruck: please keep on topic :P
04:48.45itsnotabigtrucki'm going to take that as a no
04:49.34djszapiif that makes you feel happy, please do :D
04:56.25befordisn't it early in .fi?
04:58.26djszapidepends on the life style of a person, I guess.
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05:23.43djszapiany ideas for the vertical center issue ?
05:43.42Sazpaimondjszapi, when you're done with kanagram any chance you could do that steam chat thing :3
05:43.50Sazpaimonor at least get me a base that I can work on
05:44.00Sazpaimoni cannot figure out telepathy and accounts for the life of me
05:44.56djszapinot really, the next one is khangman
05:45.06Sazpaimon:(
05:45.17Sazpaimonnot even just a bare project with stubs?
05:45.38djszapino, and then qt5 and kde frameworks tasks, sorry
05:45.47djszapimy backlog is already very long
05:45.54Sazpaimonwell youre the only one I know that knows anything about telepathy
05:51.43Tronicitsnotabigtruck: You know, with modafinil one can remove the need to sleep entirely.
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06:18.01djszapiI cannot apparently put a Column into the vertical Center of a page :(
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06:52.31itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: you could clone an existing connection manager and gut everything out
06:52.37itsnotabigtruckthough that might not be the easiest way to start the project
06:53.39itsnotabigtrucki'm not telepathic either but it it ought to be possible for you to sort it out
06:54.31djszapidoes one havethe vkb soundeffect by off-hand ? The one for pressing a key.
06:55.27itsnotabigtruckcan't you figure out where the wav file is and load it?
06:57.09djszapiif I could I would already do that.
06:58.15djszapiok figured out
06:59.03djszapihttp://www.danitxu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/feo.jpg -> nice picture. :)
07:07.10djszapiwell, I cannot figure out the vkb sound effect.
07:12.42djszapiah it is the sliding file.
07:26.28djszapiHow can I get my button resized if I change the text to a longer one, like this ? http://paste.xinu.at/bW1CA/
07:26.34djszapiPlay Game -> Resume Game.
07:37.44djszapihttp://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/qml-text.html?tab=1#elide-prop -> something like this, I guess.
07:39.43itsnotabigtruckcrap, it's almost 2am already
07:41.08djszapiwell, the volunteer day begins soon
07:41.33itsnotabigtrucki just realized i didn't say this before so ^ grats on getting your game into the store
07:41.53djszapithanks, update coming tomorrow :)
07:41.57djszapiwith a much better UX
07:44.01djszapiinteresting I cannot use the same theme url syntax for the platform sounds as in case of the platform icons.
07:46.53djszapibegins patching Qt Mobility.
07:59.16itsnotabigtruckhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpZbQfTrXMA
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11:30.37ZogG_laptope-yes: captcha on nitdroid forums is horrible but letters are all the same all the time
11:40.29djszapierr...seriously, is it possible to have a page with a column inside resiging horizontically and vertically in the middle ?
11:54.12e-yesZogG_laptop, they aren't
12:14.24e-yesZogG_laptop, but sometimes after F5 it's the same, yeah
12:22.33ZogG_laptope-yes: all i tried are the same
12:22.45ZogG_laptope-yes: not sure if it sents email btw
12:23.11ZogG_laptopi still didn't get registration email =(
12:37.08e-yesfucking gmail
12:37.25e-yesthey mark all outgoing mails as spam
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12:49.04ZogG_laptope-yes: not in spam
12:54.38e-yesthey mark it in MY mailbox
12:56.06e-yeshttp://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=ru&answer=69585
12:57.55ZogG_laptopcan you approve me
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13:06.48e-yesZogG_laptop, I activated your account
13:22.32e-yesZogG_laptop, could you check your email, pls
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14:16.29Venemo_N950hm
14:17.12djszapifaenil: Venemo_N950 rzr o/
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14:26.41faenilo/ djszapi
14:27.15djszapifaenil: Venemo_N950 do you know how put a column into the middle of a page (vertically) ?
14:29.00faenilanchors.verticalCenter? :O
14:30.01djszapidid not work for me.
14:30.28faenilit should...code snippet?
14:31.05djszapihttps://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainPage.qml
14:31.54faenilyou're specifying both fill and verticalcenter...
14:32.20djszapiyep, I am trying everything
14:32.25djszapistarted without fill for sure.
14:33.06djszapieven tried with a rectangle container, or container for the buttons, like Item.
14:33.11djszapiI just cannot get it work :/
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14:33.36faenilwith fill and center it won't work, for sure
14:33.54djszapithat is not really the problem, go on :)
14:34.03djszapiconsider the fill is not there, and still does not work.
14:34.21faeniljust try anchors.centerIn: parent
14:34.30faeniland see if it gets centered in the page
14:34.43faenildelete all other anchors
14:35.37djszapitried that too this morning
14:35.49djszapithat was my first try.
14:36.01djszapibecause my idea isto get it horizontically and vertically in the middle.
14:36.01faenilhave you tried clean all?
14:36.03djszapiall the buttons.
14:36.07djszapiclean all ?
14:36.09faenilmaybe it's not deploying the latest qml
14:36.39faenilclean all, then run qmake
14:36.42faenilthen run :)
14:36.48faenilor cmake
14:36.49djszapiit is qml ...
14:37.18faenilI know but you never know...it happened that the correct qml was not being deployed...
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14:37.56djszapiI edit it onthe device fyi
14:38.05faeniloh ok
14:38.21faenilthen try specifying width and height of the page
14:38.27faenilit could be getting weird info about the page
14:38.31djszapiheh it now works.
14:38.41faenil:)
14:38.45faenilwhat made it work?
14:39.01djszapia lot of pray to the Godhead. :)
14:39.09faenillol
14:39.11faenilno come on
14:39.12faenil:D
14:39.51djszapialso, there is thingy issue here ... so that if I change the button text to a longer stuff, it gets ellided, so why not auto-size calculation ? No ellide is the default for the text by the way.
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14:41.04djszapitried childrenRect, too
14:42.32djszapifaenil: ^
14:42.47faenilI don't know what ellide means, let me look it up :D
14:43.38djszapicropped text
14:43.44djszapi"faenil" -> "faen.."
14:43.49itsnotabigtruck*elide, not ellide, i think
14:44.04faeniloh right
14:44.07faenilyes elide
14:44.09itsnotabigtruckthough i wouldn't call that elision...
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14:44.16djszapicheck out the text man.
14:44.24faenilyes I got it djszapi
14:44.25itsnotabigtruckelision's almost the opposite of truncation
14:45.05djszapifaenil: so for instance, if I change "Play Game" to "Resume Game", it occurs.
14:45.19faenilyou see Resume Ga.." right
14:45.29djszapiyep
14:45.56itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: can't you just make your buttons wider?
14:46.18djszapiitsnotabigtruck: it is not me calculating a hard coded size, so the answer is "no".
14:46.30itsnotabigtruckthen calculate a hardcoded size and put it in :D
14:46.35djszapiis checking out the Button code whether they change the elide trail.
14:47.22faenilmaybe you need to set Wrapmode once you've set noElide
14:47.22djszapielide: Text.ElideRight
14:47.24djszapidamn them
14:47.45itsnotabigtruckyou're probably going to say that's an l20n problem, but it could be fixed up if there ever actually end up being localizations, and replaced with some code that measures both play game and resume game and picks the larger width
14:47.46faeniloh so you have a button, not text :P
14:48.13djszapiyes, that is what have discussed
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14:48.26djszapiapparently they do not propagate it to the public API either
14:48.33djszapisounds like a feature patch from me.
14:48.39faenilright I didn't read it was button text
14:48.46djszapiso I cannot change this feature of the button :/
14:49.04faenilthat sucks
14:49.04djszapinotthat it ever gets released, but still
14:49.19faenilso you can't have multiline buttons
14:49.30faenilcould be an implementation choice actually...
14:49.43itsnotabigtruckthis kinda stuff is why qt's excessive implementation hiding is evil
14:50.11djszapiok patch done, putting it to gitorious for a MR
14:50.14itsnotabigtruckmaking the pImpl public and accessing it through the private headers would solve so many edge case problems
14:50.36djszapi" Play Game "
14:50.39djszapiworkaround ^^
14:50.41itsnotabigtrucki mean, only if you know wtf you're doing, but right now things break if you want to do anything weird
14:50.44itsnotabigtruckand heh
14:50.53itsnotabigtruckthat's even worse than the hardcoded width...
14:51.01djszapidoes not work for translation.
14:51.06itsnotabigtruckneither does ^
14:51.09djszapibut since I do not support it
14:51.15djszapiit is not an issue to me.
14:51.17itsnotabigtruckit relies on  "resume game" only being a tiny bit wider than "play game"
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14:52.35Venemo_N950hey guys
14:52.35djszapihas soon almost the whole qt-components' local copy (patched version) in place.
14:53.01Venemo_N950djszapi, the refactored irc-chatter is now in a working state :)
14:53.29djszapiitsnotabigtruck: which it is
14:53.34djszapiso I do not see a problem
14:53.42djszapiVenemo_N950: good :)
14:53.56itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: so it's no better of a solution than just fixing the width
14:54.04itsnotabigtruckbut a bit more hacky
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14:54.32djszapinot really
14:54.39djszapibecause with my way it is not hard coded
14:54.53Venemo_N950djszapi, I still need to fix a couple of bugs and then I'll make a new release
14:54.54djszapiso it can be checked on the desktop if someone wishes and the like.
14:56.01djszapifaenil: oopsie, ButtonStyle might be capable to override the elide trail.
14:56.56faenilmmm, good :D
14:58.12itsnotabigtruckdjszapi: erm, yeah, you're just hiding the hardcoding
14:58.16itsnotabigtruckstubbornness...>_>
14:59.11djszapiwoke up for arguing ?
14:59.22djszapiI am not a partner in that sorry :)
14:59.39faenildjszapi: but there's no elide property in button style..
15:00.01djszapithat is what I was checking in the source code.
15:00.21djszapimy internet has half a min lag right now to type here something.
15:00.41djszapiI even tried it out actually, and it does not really work
15:01.28djszapiwell, this is a fail they did not expose it.
15:03.59faenilyeah...
15:05.39djszapithey did not expose the textMode either.
15:06.26faenil-.-
15:06.39djszapiand this is the exact reason why I said previously exposing a full embedded component nicely is very important
15:06.42djszapiwhen nobody understood
15:07.06djszapibecause if that is viable, there is no situation, like "oopsie, something is not exposed, and cumbersome to hack around".
15:07.31faenilyeah
15:07.37faenilit's neeeded
15:07.50djszapiand you cannot .. just do that in qml1.
15:08.24faenilbut you can in qml2?
15:09.17djszapino
15:09.22djszapiafaiu
15:09.53djszapiwell ... you can do ways, but none of them are nice.
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15:41.50djszapiinteresting, I cannot pass a margin to Flickable, nor to Column ?
15:48.42faenil??
15:49.33djszapiwell if you have a flickable page and you wanna have margins
15:49.38djszapiyou need to make a container.
15:49.54faenilmargins on what
15:50.07djszapianything seriously.
15:50.11djszapifor instance a settings page.
15:50.21faenilplease describe a complete example
15:50.26djszapiyou do not really wanna draw the elements from 0-854
15:50.49djszapiComplete: open up almost any application, but for instance settings
15:51.47djszapiit is a problem when you have a rectangle in the page for getting black background for otherwise a pagewindowstack having a png image as background.
15:52.00djszapilong story short: Flickable does not respect the margin settings.
15:52.01djszapinor does Column.
15:52.27trxplace the items in a rect, and set the margins
15:52.33trxwhats the problem with that?
15:52.46djszapino need for rect
15:53.01djszapia simple item is enough for working around, but I was not talking about the workaround, but the limitation.
15:53.03trxafaik, Flickable is not a visual component
15:53.04djszapiwhich is serious imo.
15:53.14trxit should not have visual margins
15:53.16faenilflickable needs a children item
15:53.18djszapibut the content is
15:53.22faenilyeah
15:53.51trxso you set margins to the content
15:53.55djszapiright, and you cannot set up the content margin.
15:54.02djszapithat is the point, I cannot.
15:54.06faenillet me understand correctly
15:54.08faenilyou have a flickable
15:54.09djszapithat is why it is serious.
15:54.14faeniland put a page inside it?
15:54.17trxno, its not
15:54.35djszapiit is not serious to set up a margin for content ? LOL
15:54.43djszapifaenil: sort of, yes and no
15:54.45trxPage - Rect(with margins) - Flickable - content
15:54.50djszapiit is yet another limitation why I need to hack around
15:54.55djszapitrx: and that is hack
15:55.04djszapiand I already said I did that even if Rectangle is quite useless
15:55.07djszapiItem is enough
15:55.14trxits not a hack as Flickable is not a visual component
15:55.26djszapibut the content /is/
15:55.28trxyeah, item or whatever, i just gave an example
15:55.54trxi dont understand the problem
15:56.03faenilI'm sorry but I don't understand what you need the margins for, can't make a picture in my mind, can't help
15:56.26djszapiheh, no sorry, if you do not understand nvm.
15:56.33djszapiI need to move on.
15:56.40faenilthen move on :)
15:56.43trxgood luck :)
15:57.05djszapiI would expect Column respecting the margin.
15:57.10djszapiwithout having any explicit Item.
15:58.27djszapiProper fix would be to fixthe qt-component limitation about the background management for PageStackWindow/Page.
15:59.19djszapibecause then I could set the page margin, but in this special case, I just simply cannot.
15:59.26djszapiI need yet another useless container item
16:00.44djszapifaenil: code is here, representing the issue: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdeedu/kanagram/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/harmattan/MainSettingsPage.qml
16:02.55djszapifaenil: screenshot: http://minus.com/mcnkbnHPH#1
16:11.00faenildjszapi: giving a look at it now ;)
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16:11.20faenilthe sound switch goes offscreen? :O
16:13.13djszapiyes
16:15.46djszapibut that is a simple fix
16:18.49faenilit seems that page is wider than the real screen..
16:18.57faenilall separators go offscreen too
16:19.12djszapiyes, but again, do not hijack :)
16:19.31faenilok so what's the problem? :)
16:19.40djszapilook at the qml
16:19.44faenilI am
16:19.45djszapiI have an "Item"
16:19.56faenilfor the switch thing?
16:20.00djszapinope
16:20.03djszapifor the Flickable thingy
16:20.14djszapiand I would not need that ideally, just margins for the "Page".
16:20.22faenilyou mean the parent of the flickable?
16:20.29djszapibut since I need to have a Rectangle for exceedingn the limitation of qt-components
16:20.33djszapiI have this hackish Item
16:20.36djszapiyup
16:21.35faenilso Flickable { anchors.fill:parent; margins:10 , WITHOUT specifying width and height doesn't work?
16:21.43djszapifaenil: I think why the right side is out is because of the margins.
16:22.00djszapifaenil: nope.
16:22.25faenilmmm
16:23.03faenillet me make some attempts
16:24.52djszapifaenil: you think Flickable respects the margins with filling the parent in ?
16:25.11faenildon't know,
16:25.16faenilI'm trying some thigns
16:25.50djszapiand if I set margins, the flickable thingy puts the right side out :/
16:26.34faenilmmm
16:26.54faenilI'll copy here, because it's really short
16:26.55faenilPage {
16:26.55faenil<PROTECTED>
16:26.55faenil<PROTECTED>
16:26.55faenil<PROTECTED>
16:26.55faenil<PROTECTED>
16:26.56faenil<PROTECTED>
16:26.58faenil<PROTECTED>
16:27.00faenil<PROTECTED>
16:27.02faenil<PROTECTED>
16:27.05faenil<PROTECTED>
16:27.06faenil}
16:27.10faenilthat works... I mean the rectangle is centered with 20 margin
16:27.56djszapiokay, so it seems there is no need for such a hackery aforementioned.
16:28.01djszapiI just need to figure out why it does not work here.
16:28.11faenilyeah
16:28.22djszapialso, I am not sure how to fix the right side issue nicely.
16:28.34djszapiof course I could subtractthe margin manually ...
16:28.44djszapibut that is not nice
16:29.28djszapiprobably still the best.
16:29.35faenil:) dunno actually
16:30.03djszapialso, please do not paste here above 3 lines :)
16:30.12djszapisince you start, everybody could ask this for being fair :P
16:30.31faenil:D
16:31.58faenilI guess it's because you're using margins in Item,
16:32.12faenilbut then using width: parent.width and height:parent.height in the Flickable
16:32.21faenilso it doesn't take margins into account
16:33.00djszapifaenil: I frankly think Column should respect the margins settings too
16:33.43faenilyou should set Flickable to anchors.fill:parent
16:33.51faeniland column as width: flickable.width
16:33.56faenilthat way it should work
16:33.56djszapiit is done in the local version
16:34.03djszapibut did not commit since it did not work so far
16:34.14faenilok...then I don't know should need to try :)
16:34.22faenilI'll keep working on the thesis now :)
16:36.59faenilreboot
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17:02.02faenildjszapi: is there any way to recover a kde paste (paste.kde.org) that has been deleted?
17:02.30djszapiyou mean expired ?
17:02.54faenilhttp://paste.kde.org/206180/
17:05.50djszapiit was deleted or expired ?
17:06.00djszapiI do not think they delete it explicitely.
17:06.51faenilI don't know..
17:10.01djszapiin any case, #kde-sysadmin
17:10.36faenilok
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17:47.44Sazpaimoncan python telepathy plugins be submitted to the nokia store
17:49.11djszapiwhy not ?
17:49.16djszapiThere are already plugins in ovi store.
17:49.54Sazpaimonyes but telepathy-python isnt instealled by default
17:50.34Sazpaimonif I include it as a dependancy will the store app figure that out?
17:51.13djszapicheck whether you can fetch it from the apps repository.
17:51.28djszapiif you can, it works, otherwise nope.
17:52.51Sazpaimonit installs python-central python-dbus python-telepathy from the maemo nokia repository
17:53.17Sazpaimonso I guess it should work
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17:54.20itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: my understanding is that anything in the main repo is in-limits
17:54.55Sazpaimonand i suppose the way to package plugins is to package in the accounts plugin and the telapathy plugin in a single deb
17:54.59itsnotabigtrucki.e. can you install it with pkgmgr install-file -f on a phone with the main default repo
17:55.01itsnotabigtruckonly
17:55.04djszapiSazpaimon: iow, if you can install it without adding further reposiroties
17:55.05djszapiit works.
17:55.20itsnotabigtruckif it requires additional non-main-repo packages then it's off-limits
17:55.24Sazpaimonrather than have a seperate account plugin and telepathy plugin ala maemo
17:56.05SazpaimonI know extraplugins actually packages with it all of libpurple
17:56.24djszapiyeah, package it into one
17:56.29djszapisimpler to distribute
17:57.04Sazpaimonyeah
17:57.11Sazpaimonit just makes the filesystem more of a mess in the end
17:57.44Sazpaimoni guess its no worse than maemo 5's distaster of an /opt partition
17:58.07Sazpaimonbut that could easily be automated in the build process thanks to optify
17:58.31itsnotabigtruckif you don't mind staying out of the ovi store, you could partition everything in the proper way
17:58.51itsnotabigtruckeverybody keeps confining themselves to what the store will allow, forget that
17:59.23itsnotabigtruckalso this steam telepathy thing has applications outside of the n9
17:59.49Sazpaimonthere's already a steam chat client for mono, though
18:00.03Sazpaimonso regular linux can take advantage of a "full" client
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18:00.33itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: but not through telepathy
18:00.39itsnotabigtruckthat mono client is seriously ghetto
18:00.48itsnotabigtruckthis would make it possible to install steam chat into empathy
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18:01.07Sazpaimonidealy the pidgin devs should just make it part of libpurple
18:01.11Sazpaimonbut they dont seem interested
18:01.19bluesleehello, does someone now if there are command line dbus commands for getting cellid etc?
18:01.34itsnotabigtruckthe pidgin developers aren't particularly interested in anything
18:01.37Sazpaimonanyway, here's what I'll do
18:01.47Sazpaimoni'll make a store-compliant version for N9
18:01.58Sazpaimonand an N900 version that seperates into two debs
18:02.02itsnotabigtruckblueslee: there are, though i don't know off-hand
18:02.05itsnotabigtruckwhat's it for?
18:02.12Sazpaimonthe N900 version should be usable on regular linux
18:02.53itsnotabigtruckthere's no reason to keep the proper version off the n9
18:03.01itsnotabigtruckbut anyway, how about implementing it actually first :p
18:03.05itsnotabigtruckdistribution can come later
18:03.28Sazpaimonwell now that I'm confident that I can make it using telepathy-python it makes my job easier
18:03.40itsnotabigtrucki just hate the idea that people are screwing up their apps based on arbitrary ovi impositions
18:03.45Sazpaimoni'll just look at how butterfly handles it
18:03.54bluesleeitsnotabigtruck: something like cellid -> station -> monitoring departure on low power screen of n9
18:03.55itsnotabigtruckespecially since the main userbase probably isn't going to be the sort of person who only looks at the ovi store anyway
18:04.04ZogG_laptopclient for what?
18:04.12itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: steam chat
18:04.46ZogG_laptoplike videocalls?
18:04.54Sazpaimonerm
18:04.59ZogG_laptopsteam from Steam - the shop?
18:05.01Sazpaimonsteam doesnt do video calls
18:05.05itsnotabigtruckno...since when did steam have anything to do with video
18:05.18itsnotabigtruckSazpaimon: just a reminder, since you're using the steam http api, be super careful to escape everything
18:05.21bluesleeitsnotabigtruck: i know the commands on the n900 but they do not work on the n9, dbus-monitoring was not very helpful yet
18:05.24itsnotabigtruckif that's needed
18:05.29Sazpaimonsteam has voice chat though
18:05.32ZogG_laptopdamn right my bad i somehower thought of stream =)
18:05.39Sazpaimoni dont think the webapi can accomplish that
18:05.50Sazpaimonnor do i think it'd be incredibly useful
18:06.03itsnotabigtruckyeah, steam voice chat is for talking while gaming
18:06.18Sazpaimonand everyone uses teamspeak, ventrilo, and mumble for that
18:06.41ZogG_laptopthise gamers =)
18:06.42itsnotabigtrucki hate how no one uses built-in game chat these days
18:07.02Sazpaimonthe latest versions of the source engine is supposed to mitigate that
18:07.14Sazpaimonbecause the voice quality is drastically improved since they changed codecs
18:07.23itsnotabigtruckgenerally everyone either a) doesn't have a mic, b) has a mic but is too n00b to configure it correctly, c) is only interested in talking to their clan or whatnot over mumble etc.
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18:07.51itsnotabigtruckinstead of strategizing on the game voice
18:09.01Sazpaimonguess I need to write the accounts plugin from scratch
18:09.15Sazpaimonsince butterfly uses something called liblongcat
18:09.22Sazpaimonthat ive never heard of
18:09.34Sazpaimon"A base plugin for writing accounts plugins, which makes it easier and needs"
18:09.38Sazpaimonok, so why call it liblongcat
18:14.54itsnotabigtrucklol
18:15.06itsnotabigtruckbecause it sounds awesome
18:15.28itsnotabigtruckhttp://longc.at/longcat
18:15.38itsnotabigtruckthat's why it's liblongcat
18:16.16Sazpaimoni have an ascii version of that pic for irc spamming
18:16.22itsnotabigtruckhaha
18:16.25faenil_has anybody got experience with android programming?
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18:22.51djszapifaenil: RST38h has.
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18:23.48faenilI'm going crazy with filetype recognition...
18:23.48faenilRST38h: ping
18:25.04djszapiand I might have pretty soon some ;p
18:26.57RST38hfaeniL; yes, what?
18:27.18faenilneed help with filetype  recognition via manifest on android, can you help?
18:27.26RST38hI think so
18:27.32faenilwonderful :D
18:27.33faenilpm?
18:27.42RST38hwhatever you like
18:27.55RST38hYou want your app to open files from the file manager or what?
18:29.53faenilyes, and from browser
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18:54.17pahi
18:55.06paim sorry im a newbie of harmattan, just got today my N9. but i have a question: i bought an unlocked phone, but it was locked. so i called the phone company  who gave me the unlock code
18:55.32pabut i dont know how to dial #pw on the N9
18:55.38pai can dial p
18:55.42pabut i dont get the w
18:56.14pai read i should press * 4 times, but it cycles after three
19:01.21bluesleei thought that an incoming notification on the lockscreen would disappear after a certain amount of time  ... i have to reboot for this. anyone else with this issue? bug?
19:03.03RST38hfinally found an application that makes N950 stumble and hang
19:03.19RST38hCould have guessed before installing it, actually...
19:03.24faenilanyone who can help with filetype recognition on android?
19:04.11djszapifaenil: have you tried #android or their development channel ?
19:04.21faenilyes :
19:04.28faenildev channel
19:04.32faenilnone answers to my question xD
19:04.48djszapitry the mailing, and forum too
19:05.17pano one has idea how to dial "w" in the N9?
19:05.26RST38hkinda remembers answering a while ago
19:05.46faenilRST38h: yes, I sent you other pms and you didn't answer, so I thought you didn't know how to help me :)
19:06.17faenildon't know if you haven't received messages or what else :)
19:08.36faenilehm :P
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19:11.43faenilRST38h: did I say anything wrong? XD
19:14.09ZogG_laptopfaenil: why do u want dial «w»
19:14.31faenilit wasn't me :D
19:14.39paZogG_laptop, to debrand it
19:14.45pai have the debranding code
19:14.54pabut i cannot dial #pw
19:14.58pacoz i cannot dial the w
19:15.14pain the instructions i got from the operator, they say to press * 4 times
19:15.26pabut after 3 times, it simply cycles back to *
19:17.17ZogG_laptopwhat do you mena by debrand?
19:17.30palike to use a sim from another operator
19:18.36ZogG_laptoppa - http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79491
19:18.59ZogG_laptoppa - it should be unlocked by default? have you tried to reset factory settings and flash it?
19:20.53djszapipa I can second this with stock kernel and device
19:22.02padjszapi, you mean that by default it is unlocked?
19:22.07pai havent tried to flash it
19:22.08pano..
19:22.25pacan i download the flash from nokia.com?
19:23.15djszapias I said, it does not help for me.
19:23.24djszapiI have the same UX as you with stock kernel.
19:23.38pameaning you cannot dial the w?
19:23.53djszapiyes, as you described.
19:24.00paah okay..
19:24.09paso there+s no way to unbrand this phone?
19:24.23pai called nokia just now, and they say i should press star four times..
19:24.27pai mean, if they dont know it..
19:24.45djszapido you have PR1.1 ?
19:24.50pai think so
19:25.03payou mean PR1
19:25.12djszapiI have Pr1.2 on my n9
19:25.19paah ok 1.1
19:25.22payes
19:25.22djszapibut if it happens with PR1.1 too...
19:25.38djszapiCould anybody claim the opposite here ?
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19:28.29Corsachmhm, I need to send the n9 back to nokia care, I got a RMA stuff for mail back, do I really need to put there every accessories?
19:28.36ZogG_laptopdjszapi: sneeky man =)
19:29.16ZogG_laptopi have 1.1 and it happenns the same
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19:33.50faenilRST38h: I beg for your help, lol
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19:46.34paand by the way, do you know how to change or reset the skype account on the N9?
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19:54.44paalso, what does change in PR1.2?
19:55.16djszapiit is not out there yet, so no final changelog.
19:55.29djszapibut you can at least check the available draft.
19:55.32djszapifor N950
19:55.48smokexwould be nice if I was able to connect to the net using my N950 again
19:56.14smokexconnect my pc to the net through n950
19:56.54smokexfor not switched back to C7
19:56.57smokexnow
19:57.16djszapismokex: and what is your precise issue ?
19:57.33djszapijoikuspot is your friend.
19:58.06smokexthe upgrade of Nokia Suite made connection through N950 impossible
19:59.02itsnotabigtruckit seems to work if you add it on an old version of nokia suite, then upgrade
19:59.09itsnotabigtruckbut i haven't gone to 3.2 yet
19:59.33itsnotabigtruckalso i had to re-add my n9 to nokia suite after upgrading to 3.1
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19:59.46itsnotabigtruckit was shown as "nokia n9 (UNSUPPORTED)" or something like that in the listing
19:59.51itsnotabigtruckbut it added it anyway
20:00.00smokexdoesn't work on latest
20:00.04smokexat all
20:00.17itsnotabigtrucktry uninstalling, installing 3.0.290, adding it, then upgrading to 3.1.x
20:00.25itsnotabigtruckyou need to go offline while you launch the installer
20:00.50smokexand gives you a link to get Nokia Link
20:01.21smokexbrb
20:08.37padoes anyonehere use skype on the meego?
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20:16.55pai seriously dont get how to change account..
20:24.04djszapipa: delete ?
20:24.52paskype account? but how?
20:24.57pai cannot sign out
20:25.01djszapibottom right corner
20:25.06djszapipress it, and then delete.
20:25.08pai can delete users
20:25.11panot account
20:25.13paor..=
20:25.14djszapiand then you can add yet another
20:25.18pahm
20:25.19pai try
20:26.29paso
20:26.56padjszapi, i have only sort by, show, add group, merge contacts, import contacts, export contacts, delete contacts
20:27.15djszapiscreenshot ?
20:27.33pagood question.. how do i do that?
20:27.47djszapigst-launch-0.10 ximagesrc num-buffers=1 ! ffmpegcolorspace ! dspjpegenc ! filesink location=shot.jpg
20:28.14djszapibut in any case: Accounts application, tap on your skype stuff
20:28.18djszapibottom right corner, and then delete
20:28.33djszapiand then you can add a skype account again
20:29.33pathank you so much! finally i got where it was :)
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20:30.18djszapiVenemo_N950: this is the fifth device I can reproduce the cumbersome bug in chattery...
20:30.40djszapialmost instantly.
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20:39.37djszapiIs the Nokia Ovi Store report any reliable ? It shows one download from Finland, but I for surely know at least 2 people downlong it from that place.
20:40.01djszapidownloaded*, damn la.
20:40.02djszapilag*
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20:52.44faenilanyone with android experience ?XD
20:53.37djszapifaenil: satuday evening here, let the people have a good party :D
20:53.45faenilyeah, damnit xD
20:54.01faenilI wanna burn android in this moment
20:54.39djszapior troll the android security model and you will find friends with the trolling as many here :)
20:56.15faenilhahaahh
21:02.20djszapiWhat is the best approach in QML for having a blinking text animation for the countdown timer value under 10 seconds or so ? Shall I use the ScriptAction or something else instead ?
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21:09.00Venemohey
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21:09.31Venemodo you guys know how to send notifications in Harmattan?
21:10.01djszapiknows with MTF
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21:11.03Venemodjszapi: can you point me to the API?
21:11.33djszapiMNotification
21:12.52djszapihttp://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/trees/master/demos/widgetsgallery
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21:13.22Venemodjszapi: thanks :)
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21:14.23djszapiDoes anybody know the icon location of the "information" icon with an 'i' letter inside ? You can find it for instance in front of the "Flight mode" switch in the settings. I have one in blue, but it would be use the platform icon directly designed for it.
21:14.51djszapinice to use ..
21:15.17djszapiVenemo: have you joined the Hungarian Qt group ?
21:16.09Venemodjszapi: I wasn't aware that there was a Hungarian Qt group!
21:17.18djszapihttp://developer.qt.nokia.com/groups/qt_hungary
21:17.46Venemonice, thanks
21:17.59Venemodjszapi: can I set the icon of the notification to the icon of my own app?
21:18.20djszapi:) Back to my question: is there any platform icon viewer application for Harmattan ?
21:18.37djszapiit could be very useful for applicaitondevelopers to find the icons the platform is shipping.
21:19.15djszapiVenemo: yes, setImage
21:19.20djszapiSets the name of the image to be used in the notification. If the name is an absolute path (begins with a /) an image located in that path is used. Otherwise the image name is interpreted to be an icon ID.
21:21.21Venemodjszapi: ah, okay. thanks :)
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21:47.23djszapiIs it possible to pass a text file to a text property in qml, or do I need to make the reading in C++ and call that invokable method in qml ? I would be nice to not type a help page directly in qml... :)
21:49.19Venemodjszapi: I think you'll need to write C++, or just use qsTr() and type the help text into the translation file
21:50.03djszapiVenemo: kde apps must not use qsTr() ever.
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22:16.22djszapilol, the FingerDrums app is incredibly in Ovi !
22:16.34djszapiincredibly awesome*
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