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15:27.15 | itsnotabigtruck | need to travel, adios |
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15:29.48 | psycho_oreos | cya |
15:39.28 | djszapi | stupid freenode |
15:39.29 | djszapi | *sigh* |
15:43.28 | gabriel9|work | it is better then pigeons :P |
15:44.40 | psycho_oreos | hey, don't mock the rats in the sky ;) |
15:44.54 | djszapi | Jeffrey04: could you please verify the bug fix ? http://minus.com/mYhfIBUVN#1 |
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15:46.12 | Jeffrey04 | sure |
15:46.13 | Jeffrey04 | wait |
15:47.09 | Jeffrey04 | downloading |
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15:50.18 | Jeffrey04 | installing |
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15:57.08 | Jeffrey04 | seems to be working |
15:58.41 | Jeffrey04 | gotta sleep, needs to wake up in 5 hours :/ |
15:58.45 | Jeffrey04 | bb |
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16:09.23 | javispedro | I noticed that on the n950 it seems that the gps is connected directly to soc instead of cellmo, line in N810 days |
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16:09.42 | javispedro | and that n810's gpsdriver = n950's "nped" |
16:12.02 | javispedro | and nped probably means "Nokia Positioning Engine Daemon" |
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16:15.13 | djszapi | has anybody ever succeeded with a grf request ? I am especially interested in that if there is any person not giving up in the first place :) |
16:18.44 | Corsac | what's grf? |
16:19.44 | djszapi | http://freenode.net/grf-f.php |
16:20.13 | xmlich02 | BTW knows someone if i need to specify some aegis credentials to use QProcess class ? |
16:20.54 | djszapi | it has nothing to do with qprocess itself. |
16:21.03 | djszapi | it is dependant on the process it runs I guess. |
16:22.59 | faenil | djszapi, using Symbio's pen at uni these days :D |
16:23.18 | djszapi | faenil: :) |
16:23.23 | djszapi | the sinking boat... |
16:23.38 | faenil | real pen I mean :D |
16:24.46 | djszapi | I know, I probably offered you one in Munich |
16:24.50 | djszapi | or you took it yourself :) |
16:26.23 | xmlich02 | well, i have simple program http://pastebin.com/MUkSbcrj which starts new process (new process is just writing an log file) and i am not able to run it on harmattan |
16:27.29 | djszapi | you can write the home directory obviously as root for instance |
16:27.41 | djszapi | so make sure you run the process as user. |
16:27.44 | djszapi | cannot* |
16:31.14 | xmlich02 | i am logged in as a developer |
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16:31.38 | faenil | djszapi, yeah got it in Munich D |
16:31.50 | xmlich02 | the strange think is i can run the script manually, but not from c++ program. see http://pastebin.com/Fz7BiVbM |
16:32.23 | xmlich02 | I guess i miss some aegis permissions |
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16:47.27 | xmlich02 | I was using QProcess instance; instance.startDetached(). This function changes the pid of child process. When I am using start() it is working. Maybe it is problem in PID change |
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16:55.01 | Aranel | does anybody know where EA savefiles (nfsshift) are stored? And any good lpm mods that I should know? :) |
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17:20.16 | thp | itsnotabigtruck, Enforcer: gpodder is available in ovi store for pay and on apps.formeego.org for free |
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17:24.48 | Anssi138 | is it possible to add own user to n9 ? |
17:25.48 | Anssi138 | like adduser jnejne |
17:32.19 | djszapiN9 | Anssi138, yes |
17:32.49 | Anssi138 | it works just like that? |
17:32.57 | djszapiN9 | how much sense it makes ? not much. |
17:33.07 | Anssi138 | friend asked |
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17:34.08 | Anssi138 | ofc you want to make djszapi user ? :) |
17:34.09 | Anssi138 | no? |
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17:34.53 | Corsac | why? |
17:34.59 | Anssi138 | and i don't actually have device so it's difficult to test |
17:35.19 | Corsac | n9 is not a multiuser device |
17:35.20 | djszapiN9 | nah, i do not wanna. |
17:35.24 | Anssi138 | because it used to be linux. |
17:36.08 | djszapiN9 | the design is entirely against unix in this sense for obvious reasons. |
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17:36.24 | Anssi138 | what's the reason for user control if there is not possible make user :) |
17:36.56 | Anssi138 | hm. aegis had some command i think. |
17:37.03 | djszapiN9 | I do not understand this question. |
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17:42.32 | Anssi138 | djszapiN9: you mean how to add new user in harmattan ? :) |
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17:44.07 | teleshoes | Anssi138, hes saying that the problem with adding new users is not an aegis or harmattan problem, but an inherent problem on a phone |
17:44.57 | teleshoes | phones dont lend themselves well to multi-user platform designs |
17:45.04 | teleshoes | i dont really agree, tho |
17:47.11 | djszapiN9 | Anssi138, just check the channel log. It was discussed many times |
17:47.31 | faenil | djszapiN9, you sent me a pm and disappeared :D |
17:47.33 | djszapiN9 | would not like to through the same bikeshed |
17:47.42 | djszapiN9 | go* |
17:48.01 | djszapiN9 | faenil, yes, i was off to shopping |
17:48.05 | djszapiN9 | 'sup |
17:49.09 | faenil | djszapiN9, well you asked me something :P |
17:49.23 | djszapiN9 | yes, 'sup |
17:49.39 | faenil | djszapiN9, what am I supposed to test? I tapped random letters and it seemed to be working |
17:49.59 | djszapiN9 | any feedback is welcome |
17:51.14 | Anssi138 | is there any keywords that i should look from logs? |
17:52.12 | faenil | djszapiN9, it's very nice :D |
17:52.26 | faenil | djszapiN9, but I actually wanted to see the man there, not a red X :D |
17:52.33 | faenil | ehheheh |
17:54.23 | djszapiN9 | Anssi138, adduser or useradd ? |
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17:56.17 | djszapiN9 | faenil, sorry but i would like to avoid a hanging man for kids. |
17:56.27 | faenil | djszapiN9, yeah I know, just joking ;) |
17:56.51 | faenil | djszapiN9, but anyway, I guess kids draw a hanging man when they play that game :P at least I used to XD |
17:57.18 | djszapiN9 | no violence in here, sorry. |
17:57.43 | djszapiN9 | please satisfy your morbid needs with something else :) |
17:57.56 | faenil | djszapiN9, aahahah XD |
17:58.40 | faenil | we used to draw arms and legs one at a time when playing that game :) |
17:58.43 | faenil | what did you use to do? :) |
17:59.03 | faenil | djszapiN9, anyway, nice graphics ;) it's a nice game :) |
17:59.10 | mgedmin | djszapiN9, tested it, seemed to work fine |
17:59.16 | djszapiN9 | nacked cute girls :) |
17:59.29 | faenil | djszapiN9, ahahahaha4 |
17:59.56 | djszapiN9 | mgedmin, cool then I push to ovi :) |
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18:49.22 | pa | do you know whether h264 in mp4 (or m4v) or mkv format can be streamed over rtsp, and whether N9 can open it? |
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19:00.20 | npm | hmmm funny overflow/rollover in birthday calendar reminder: "Starts: March 18, 2011... Ends: Feb 8 1875" ... |
19:02.26 | npm | PS... coming soon.... http://mediatator.googlecode.com (wip) |
19:03.15 | SpeedEvil | npm: Looks like fun. I guess you want an 808 to play with? |
19:06.31 | djszapi | if I make such a binding for a property in qml, when is the onSelectedIndexChanged signal handler called ? "selectedIndex: khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" I thought it is called only once, but apparently not ? |
19:07.41 | djszapi | it is a standalone Q_INVOKABLE method, and that is all. I am experiecing that in my Selection Dialog, the signal handler is entered once I run my application, and that is strange to me even if it has a valid reason. I would like to know that. :) |
19:08.49 | djszapi | I should probably call it onCompleted as a Component or so instead ? |
19:12.59 | djszapi | I do not quite understand why it is not only initialized, and why the signal handler is emitted :/ |
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19:14.40 | koe | hi everyone |
19:20.57 | djszapi | so this is the question: what is the difference between "selectedIndex: khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" and "selectedIndex: 2;". I thought none of them should emit the signal handler since I thought they are just different type of initializations, but still: it is called in the first case, thus why is that different ? |
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19:26.01 | koe | i've got one too. does N9 has unlocked bootloader? |
19:29.12 | pa | is there no python-gdata for harmattan? |
19:29.16 | pa | there is for maemo |
19:31.03 | trx | djszapi i am not sure about this, but the list is probably created with index -1, then when you show the list(run the app) it changes to whatever you set it to |
19:31.58 | trx | thats why it emits the signal |
19:32.05 | djszapi | trx: nah, it is initialized with whatever you set it too |
19:32.20 | djszapi | the question is that why is it initialized plus changed with an invokable method retval |
19:35.03 | matrixx | probably bindings work a bit differently than constant expressions |
19:35.26 | matrixx | can't figure out a valid reason though |
19:35.42 | trx | i have no idea without testing it out |
19:35.58 | djszapi | me neither; I think it is a use case, you save it when you close the app, and show the same element when you re-open it. |
19:36.23 | djszapi | and for that, you need to have an invokable accessor. |
19:36.46 | djszapi | only thing coming to my mind is a Component and completed signal, but not sure why the current version does not work. |
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20:34.19 | djszapi | qml experts needed :) |
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20:55.22 | npm | SpeedEvil: (belated reply "I guess you want an 808 to play with") -- yes please |
20:55.46 | SpeedEvil | :) |
20:56.11 | SpeedEvil | 808 with maemo on would be nice. Seeming slightly unlikely though |
20:56.28 | npm | 808 w/ symbian is fine, thank you :-) |
20:57.31 | npm | hold the windows phone though :-) |
21:00.53 | npm | djszapi: "khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" will get called each time 'khangmanEngine' changes ? |
21:01.41 | npm | "selectedIndex: 2;" has same declarative value at initialization as it does throughout life of app, doesn't change |
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22:33.10 | pa | i have a problem with qtmobility.. has anybody used it? |
22:33.47 | pa | basically i am trying to query all the available qcontactmanagers for contacts, but for each one of them (including memory and tracker) i get 0 contacts |
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22:44.25 | pa | ok i actually get a failed to open store error |
22:47.33 | pa | i think i know whats the problem |
22:47.42 | pa | i probably dont have tracker read or write access |
22:47.44 | pa | can it be? |
22:48.40 | pa | im just running the script from the terminal |
22:48.44 | pa | havent packaged it yet |
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22:57.43 | diorahman | hey guys what do you think about Nokia's Adam Weinrich post: http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/marketing/2012-March/000214.html ? |
22:58.15 | pa | i mean, if i run a python script from terminal, how do i give aegis credentials to it? |
22:58.53 | beford | aegis-exec maybe? I have no idea maybe itsnotabigtruck knows |
23:01.00 | pa | ah thanks, let me check |
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23:04.14 | pa | ok i think i found it |
23:04.40 | pa | apparently it is possible to give credentials to a script, if ran with #!/bin/python |
23:05.10 | pa | which brings me to the next problem: how can i add some credential file (aegis file) on the fly, without having to package it? |
23:05.37 | RzR | diorahman: newlines are missing ... |
23:08.46 | diorahman | RzR: here you are, https://gist.github.com/2053493, from Adam , Quim and Adam |
23:16.30 | RzR | i managed to read it |
23:16.34 | RzR | well i donno |
23:16.47 | RzR | i was looking at what is freelancer.com |
23:17.42 | pa | where do i find aegis-su? |
23:20.39 | pa | hmm |
23:20.47 | pa | seemingly in aegis-sdd-.tools |
23:20.51 | pa | but i dont have it |
23:20.58 | pa | and apparently it is not in the repos |
23:23.03 | pa | well ok i know, its friday night, not many are around :) |
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23:32.58 | pa | ok, even aegis-manifest-dev is not available |
23:33.02 | pa | i start freaking out.. |
23:33.12 | pa | bloody nokia |
23:53.07 | pa | shit |
23:53.20 | pa | now aegis is rejecting the package i have to install |
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23:56.22 | pa | i guess rzr repos are unmantained, arent they? |