IRC log for #harmattan on 20120316

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15:27.15itsnotabigtruckneed to travel, adios
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15:29.48psycho_oreoscya
15:39.28djszapistupid freenode
15:39.29djszapi*sigh*
15:43.28gabriel9|workit is better then pigeons :P
15:44.40psycho_oreoshey, don't mock the rats in the sky ;)
15:44.54djszapiJeffrey04: could you please verify the bug fix ? http://minus.com/mYhfIBUVN#1
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15:46.12Jeffrey04sure
15:46.13Jeffrey04wait
15:47.09Jeffrey04downloading
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15:57.08Jeffrey04seems to be working
15:58.41Jeffrey04gotta sleep, needs to wake up in 5 hours :/
15:58.45Jeffrey04bb
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16:09.23javispedroI noticed that on the n950 it seems that the gps is connected directly to soc instead of cellmo, line in N810 days
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16:09.42javispedroand that n810's gpsdriver = n950's "nped"
16:12.02javispedroand nped probably means "Nokia Positioning Engine Daemon"
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16:15.13djszapihas anybody ever succeeded with a grf request ? I am especially interested in that if there is any person not giving up in the first place :)
16:18.44Corsacwhat's grf?
16:19.44djszapihttp://freenode.net/grf-f.php
16:20.13xmlich02BTW knows someone if i need to specify some aegis credentials to use QProcess class ?
16:20.54djszapiit has nothing to do with qprocess itself.
16:21.03djszapiit is dependant on the process it runs I guess.
16:22.59faenildjszapi, using Symbio's pen at uni these days :D
16:23.18djszapifaenil: :)
16:23.23djszapithe sinking boat...
16:23.38faenilreal pen I mean :D
16:24.46djszapiI know, I probably offered you one in Munich
16:24.50djszapior you took it yourself :)
16:26.23xmlich02well, i have simple program http://pastebin.com/MUkSbcrj which starts new process (new process is just writing an log file) and i am not able to run it on harmattan
16:27.29djszapiyou can write the home directory obviously as root for instance
16:27.41djszapiso make sure you run the process as user.
16:27.44djszapicannot*
16:31.14xmlich02i am logged in as a developer
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16:31.38faenildjszapi, yeah got it in Munich D
16:31.50xmlich02the strange think is i can run the script manually, but not from c++ program.  see http://pastebin.com/Fz7BiVbM
16:32.23xmlich02I guess i miss some aegis permissions
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16:47.27xmlich02I was using QProcess instance; instance.startDetached(). This function changes the pid of child process. When I am using start() it is working. Maybe it is problem in PID change
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16:55.01Araneldoes anybody know where EA savefiles (nfsshift) are stored? And any good lpm mods that I should know? :)
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17:20.16thpitsnotabigtruck, Enforcer: gpodder is available in ovi store for pay and on apps.formeego.org for free
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17:24.48Anssi138is it possible to add own user to n9 ?
17:25.48Anssi138like adduser jnejne
17:32.19djszapiN9Anssi138, yes
17:32.49Anssi138it works just like that?
17:32.57djszapiN9how much sense it makes ? not much.
17:33.07Anssi138friend asked
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17:34.08Anssi138ofc you want to make djszapi user ? :)
17:34.09Anssi138no?
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17:34.53Corsacwhy?
17:34.59Anssi138and i don't actually have device so it's difficult to test
17:35.19Corsacn9 is not a multiuser device
17:35.20djszapiN9nah, i do not wanna.
17:35.24Anssi138because it used to be linux.
17:36.08djszapiN9the design is entirely against unix in this sense for obvious reasons.
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17:36.24Anssi138what's the reason for user control if there is not possible make user :)
17:36.56Anssi138hm. aegis had some command i think.
17:37.03djszapiN9I do not understand this question.
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17:42.32Anssi138djszapiN9: you mean how to add new user in harmattan ? :)
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17:44.07teleshoesAnssi138, hes saying that the problem with adding new users is not an aegis or harmattan problem, but an inherent problem on a phone
17:44.57teleshoesphones dont lend themselves well to multi-user platform designs
17:45.04teleshoesi dont really agree, tho
17:47.11djszapiN9Anssi138, just check the channel log. It was discussed many times
17:47.31faenildjszapiN9, you sent me a pm and disappeared :D
17:47.33djszapiN9would not like to through the same bikeshed
17:47.42djszapiN9go*
17:48.01djszapiN9faenil, yes, i was off to shopping
17:48.05djszapiN9'sup
17:49.09faenildjszapiN9, well you asked me something :P
17:49.23djszapiN9yes, 'sup
17:49.39faenildjszapiN9, what am I supposed to test? I tapped random letters and it seemed to be working
17:49.59djszapiN9any feedback is welcome
17:51.14Anssi138is there any keywords that i should look from logs?
17:52.12faenildjszapiN9, it's very nice :D
17:52.26faenildjszapiN9, but I actually wanted to see the man there, not a red X :D
17:52.33faenilehheheh
17:54.23djszapiN9Anssi138, adduser or useradd ?
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17:56.17djszapiN9faenil, sorry but i would like to avoid a hanging man for kids.
17:56.27faenildjszapiN9, yeah I know, just joking ;)
17:56.51faenildjszapiN9, but anyway, I guess kids draw a hanging man when they play that game :P at least I used to XD
17:57.18djszapiN9no violence in here, sorry.
17:57.43djszapiN9please satisfy your morbid needs with something else :)
17:57.56faenildjszapiN9, aahahah XD
17:58.40faenilwe used to draw arms and legs one at a time when playing that game :)
17:58.43faenilwhat did you use to do? :)
17:59.03faenildjszapiN9, anyway, nice graphics ;) it's a nice game :)
17:59.10mgedmindjszapiN9, tested it, seemed to work fine
17:59.16djszapiN9nacked cute girls :)
17:59.29faenildjszapiN9, ahahahaha4
17:59.56djszapiN9mgedmin, cool then I push to ovi :)
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18:49.22pado you know whether h264 in mp4 (or m4v) or mkv format can be streamed over rtsp, and whether N9 can open it?
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19:00.20npmhmmm funny overflow/rollover in birthday calendar reminder: "Starts: March 18, 2011... Ends: Feb 8 1875" ...
19:02.26npmPS... coming soon.... http://mediatator.googlecode.com (wip)
19:03.15SpeedEvilnpm: Looks like fun. I guess you want an 808 to play with?
19:06.31djszapiif I make such a binding for a property in qml, when is the onSelectedIndexChanged signal handler called ? "selectedIndex: khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" I thought it is called only once, but apparently not ?
19:07.41djszapiit is a standalone Q_INVOKABLE method, and that is all. I am experiecing that in my Selection Dialog, the signal handler is entered once I run my application, and that is strange to me even if it has a valid reason. I would like to know that. :)
19:08.49djszapiI should probably call it onCompleted as a Component or so instead ?
19:12.59djszapiI do not quite understand why it is not only initialized, and why the signal handler is emitted :/
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19:14.40koehi everyone
19:20.57djszapiso this is the question: what is the difference between "selectedIndex: khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" and "selectedIndex: 2;". I thought none of them should emit the signal handler since I thought they are just different type of initializations, but still: it is called in the first case, thus why is that different ?
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19:26.01koei've got one too. does N9 has unlocked bootloader?
19:29.12pais there no python-gdata for harmattan?
19:29.16pathere is for maemo
19:31.03trxdjszapi i am not sure about this, but the list is probably created with index -1, then when you show the list(run the app) it changes to whatever you set it to
19:31.58trxthats why it emits the signal
19:32.05djszapitrx: nah, it is initialized with whatever you set it too
19:32.20djszapithe question is that why is it initialized plus changed with an invokable method retval
19:35.03matrixxprobably bindings work a bit differently than constant expressions
19:35.26matrixxcan't figure out a valid reason though
19:35.42trxi have no idea without testing it out
19:35.58djszapime neither; I think it is a use case, you save it when you close the app, and show the same element when you re-open it.
19:36.23djszapiand for that, you need to have an invokable accessor.
19:36.46djszapionly thing coming to my mind is a Component and completed signal, but not sure why the current version does not work.
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20:34.19djszapiqml experts needed :)
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20:55.22npmSpeedEvil: (belated reply "I guess you want an 808 to play with") -- yes please
20:55.46SpeedEvil:)
20:56.11SpeedEvil808 with maemo on would be nice. Seeming slightly unlikely though
20:56.28npm808 w/ symbian is fine, thank you :-)
20:57.31npmhold the windows phone though :-)
21:00.53npmdjszapi: "khangmanEngine.currentLevel();" will get called each time 'khangmanEngine' changes ?
21:01.41npm"selectedIndex: 2;" has same declarative value at initialization as it does throughout life of app, doesn't change
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22:33.10pai have a problem with qtmobility.. has anybody used it?
22:33.47pabasically i am trying to query all the available qcontactmanagers  for contacts, but for each one of them (including memory and tracker) i get 0 contacts
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22:44.25paok i actually get a failed to open store error
22:47.33pai think i know whats the problem
22:47.42pai probably dont have tracker read or write access
22:47.44pacan it be?
22:48.40paim just running the script from the terminal
22:48.44pahavent packaged it yet
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22:57.43diorahmanhey guys what do you think about Nokia's Adam Weinrich post: http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/marketing/2012-March/000214.html ?
22:58.15pai mean, if i run a python script from terminal, how do i give aegis credentials to it?
22:58.53befordaegis-exec maybe? I have no idea maybe itsnotabigtruck knows
23:01.00paah thanks, let me check
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23:04.14paok i think i found it
23:04.40paapparently it is possible to give credentials to a script, if ran with #!/bin/python
23:05.10pawhich brings  me to the next problem: how can i add some credential file (aegis file) on the fly, without having to package it?
23:05.37RzRdiorahman: newlines are missing  ...
23:08.46diorahmanRzR: here you are, https://gist.github.com/2053493, from Adam , Quim and Adam
23:16.30RzRi managed to read it
23:16.34RzRwell i donno
23:16.47RzRi was looking at what is freelancer.com
23:17.42pawhere do i find aegis-su?
23:20.39pahmm
23:20.47paseemingly in aegis-sdd-.tools
23:20.51pabut i dont have it
23:20.58paand apparently it is not in the repos
23:23.03pawell ok i know, its friday night, not many are around :)
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23:32.58paok, even aegis-manifest-dev is not available
23:33.02pai start freaking out..
23:33.12pabloody nokia
23:53.07pashit
23:53.20panow aegis is rejecting the package i have to install
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23:56.22pai guess rzr repos are unmantained, arent they?

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