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| 04:44.39 | psycho_oreos | wow the ever so reliable ovistore now fails epically with heaps of unresolved errors and/or package not found errors. yay nokia |
| 04:45.17 | psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, where's this non-open sourced crap you were on about? I'd love to see this working epically in ovistore |
| 05:03.05 | itsnotabigtruck | psycho_oreos: hrm? |
| 05:04.40 | psycho_oreos | itsnotabigtruck, trying to restore the apps I've installed previously yet again. The application manager or whatever its actually called doesn't allow me to do so easily, so off to ovi store app I go. I went through my stuff and download history to start clicking on each and every one of the app that I have previously installed, this time I get loads of problems ranging from unresolved errors to package not found for most apps |
| 05:18.55 | SpeedEvil | psycho_oreos: I was arguing that commercial software is more reliable than OS stuff. :) |
| 05:19.03 | SpeedEvil | Not completely seriously |
| 05:19.53 | psycho_oreos | SpeedEvil, and in this particular case of epically failing ovi store? |
| 05:20.34 | itsnotabigtruck | SpeedEvil: more /reliable/? no way |
| 05:20.44 | itsnotabigtruck | more /complete/, or /integrated/? probably |
| 05:21.07 | itsnotabigtruck | but there's more bad commercial sw than good |
| 05:25.56 | SpeedEvil | (05:19:02 AM) SpeedEvil: Not completely seriously |
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| 06:07.49 | bef0rd | hi |
| 06:21.09 | itsnotabigtruck | yo bef0rd |
| 07:07.02 | bef0rd | hey itsnotabigtruck |
| 07:07.06 | bef0rd | no sleep |
| 07:07.08 | bef0rd | xD |
| 07:35.35 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 07:35.39 | itsnotabigtruck | nah, i need to sleep right now |
| 07:35.56 | bef0rd | same here |
| 07:36.08 | itsnotabigtruck | didn't you, like, just get up or some such |
| 07:36.12 | itsnotabigtruck | it's past midnight here |
| 07:36.18 | bef0rd | need to finish this challenge though |
| 07:36.23 | bef0rd | 2:30am |
| 07:36.47 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, huh, so you're in the us/canada/something |
| 07:36.57 | itsnotabigtruck | we might have gone over this before already :p |
| 07:37.14 | bef0rd | heh southamerica |
| 07:39.11 | itsnotabigtruck | ah right |
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| 12:24.14 | flux | is there an app to automatically deal with hidd and the accessoryenabled gconf flag? (in regards to a bt keyboard) |
| 12:28.08 | flux | apparently there ~is: http://code.google.com/p/qtdialog/source/browse/#svn%2Ftrunk%2Fbtkeyboard |
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| 13:21.28 | liar | is there a jvm for the n9? |
| 13:23.06 | dm8tbr | who in his right mind would want that... |
| 13:24.13 | liar | dm8tbr: i am running maple on my device, command line is nice but i'd like to have a gui just like on my n900 :) |
| 13:27.36 | liar | it might be possible to use the x86 one which comes with maple, but that seems stupid |
| 13:28.22 | Elleo | http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/statusnet-n9.jpg <-- identi.ca messages in the harmattan events feed \o/ (very much still a work in progress though) |
| 13:31.12 | dm8tbr | :) |
| 13:43.35 | beford | great |
| 13:43.56 | SpeedEvil | :) |
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| 13:49.12 | beford | there is a thread on forum.meego about a jvm liar |
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| 14:23.29 | tgalal | I remember seeing a qml component for chat-like bubbles in harmattan, but I can't find it now. Any links? |
| 14:24.57 | leinir | tgalal: i haven't seen it, but i am reasonably sure you'd be able to build one using a small, BorderImage based component and a Column in a Flickable :) |
| 14:25.41 | tgalal | leinir: yeah I can do that, but I want to use the native one |
| 14:26.07 | leinir | Ah right, don't know about that one |
| 14:29.09 | Elleo | did anyone ever make sense of the accounts system? I've managed to make a provider and service but just get an error when trying to store settings, and I can't seem to add any custom fields |
| 14:29.48 | dm8tbr | Elleo: poke aard or that other guy who did an XMPP plugin |
| 14:30.36 | Elleo | dm8tbr: I found some logs where yipdw was trying to do XMPP stuff, but his github stuff doesn't seem to have got any further than me |
| 14:31.08 | Aard | Elleo: my xmpp accounts plugin is working, I jsut can't get around to making the ui nice |
| 14:31.30 | Elleo | Aard: oh? is the source available somewhere for me to look at? |
| 14:33.07 | Elleo | all I'm really trying to do is store username, password and a server URL via the accounts dialog thing |
| 14:33.43 | Aard | https://gitorious.org/xmpp-accounts/xmpp-accounts -- not sure about the state of that repo, though, a quick check showed me about 200 lines of not-yet-pushed changes |
| 14:34.20 | Elleo | thanks, I'll have a play around :) |
| 14:35.06 | Aard | if there's stuff missing ping me, then I'll try to clean up the local changes and push them (I only know that the local version is working). if you're good at qml and promise to fix my qml-stuff that would increase my motivation to do so :p |
| 14:35.27 | Elleo | heh, I just intend to steal what I can to get my own stuff working I'm afraid ;) |
| 14:43.44 | Elleo | Aard: aah, it was the handlers in /usr/lib/AccountSetup/ that I was missing |
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| 15:19.45 | Sazpaimon | damn where's e-yes |
| 15:19.52 | Sazpaimon | i was hoping that he'd release the source for sillyboot |
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| 15:39.45 | Sazpaimon | if i'm flashing open mode kernel, is it a good idea to run apscli -D? |
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| 15:46.43 | Sazpaimon | or is it just, flash with open mode kernel, and run "apscli -s signon-private:Se -lu" in opensh? |
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| 15:57.50 | Sazpaimon | why exactly do I need the fiasco image just to flash a zimage |
| 15:58.07 | Sazpaimon | notably when I already have a zimage |
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| 16:02.21 | itsnotabigtruck | Sazpaimon: because the main image contains a kernel that's booted in order to flash the other stuff |
| 16:02.42 | Sazpaimon | oh so i really do need my current firmware image then |
| 16:02.55 | Sazpaimon | i cant use a PR1.1 image for PR1.2 even if im flashing a seperate zimage |
| 16:03.01 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, you would do -f -F main.img --kernel=haxorkernel --flash-only=kernel |
| 16:03.11 | Sazpaimon | strange, because my PR1.1 image is giving me "Bad ape-algo format" |
| 16:03.27 | itsnotabigtruck | that's...odd |
| 16:03.53 | Sazpaimon | wait, i'm using -a and not -F |
| 16:03.56 | Sazpaimon | oops |
| 16:04.30 | Sazpaimon | even though ape accept a fiasco image |
| 16:05.10 | Sazpaimon | "FIASCO ERROR: Invalid FIASCO subimage id (00)" |
| 16:05.12 | Sazpaimon | weird |
| 16:05.22 | Sazpaimon | maybe the fiasco image itself got corrupted somehow |
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| 16:18.31 | DocScrutinizer | hmm, you're sure about that "needed fiasco for flashing" detail? >>~jr/bin/flasher_950_32 -l -b -k ~jr/Documents/N900/N950/openmodekernel-patched/zImage-2.6.32.39-dfl61-20113701<< |
| 16:20.01 | DocScrutinizer | see footnote at http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/succeeding-session-log.txt |
| 16:21.21 | DocScrutinizer | >>... |
| 16:21.23 | DocScrutinizer | and it's unclear if this method providing a fiasco image for whatever |
| 16:21.24 | DocScrutinizer | reasons is the right one. |
| 16:21.26 | DocScrutinizer | instead, I provide this quote now:[2011-12-28 01:29:17] <pawky> javispedro: then what was your flasher line that made it all work? I didnt succeed with all the ones I could find or think of.. |
| 16:21.27 | DocScrutinizer | [2011-12-28 01:33:23] <javispedro> pawky: exactly as I have always done, -k <kernelfile> -f -b |
| 16:24.09 | DocScrutinizer | Sazpaimon: ^^^ |
| 16:37.29 | rlinfati | i can enable the rd mode in the rm680.. or i need a special certificate ? |
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| 16:46.22 | DocScrutinizer | nobody ever tried, as R&D mode is meaningless for HARM |
| 16:46.35 | javispedro | moo D |
| 16:46.42 | DocScrutinizer | moo javispedro :-D |
| 16:47.20 | ZogG_laptop | sup |
| 16:49.35 | Sazpaimon | DocScrutinizer, it wont work for me |
| 16:49.44 | Sazpaimon | "ERROR: APE algorithm has to be provided to flash all the subimages" |
| 16:49.58 | rlinfati | pr12 ? |
| 16:50.00 | Sazpaimon | "c:\Program Files\Nokia\Flasher\flasher.exe" -k zImage -f -b |
| 16:50.03 | Sazpaimon | yes |
| 16:50.29 | Sazpaimon | for -l, the APE algorithm isn't needed, but for -f, it is |
| 16:50.49 | javispedro | and on the n9 it seems |
| 16:50.56 | ZogG_laptop | divan: ping |
| 16:51.06 | Sazpaimon | javispedro, N950 doesn't need it? |
| 16:51.17 | ZogG_laptop | divan_: ping |
| 16:51.18 | javispedro | Sazpaimon: I am yet to use it |
| 16:51.31 | Sazpaimon | weird |
| 16:51.33 | javispedro | *need |
| 16:51.38 | DocScrutinizer | also rumour has it that sequence of cmdline options is relevant for flasher |
| 16:52.09 | ZogG_laptop | anyone knows any code examples creating accounts? |
| 16:52.29 | javispedro | I've read that the "proper way" on N9 is to add to flasher cmldline "-F <whatever-is-the-rootfs-image-for-your-device-and-version>.fiasco --flash-only=kernel" |
| 16:52.40 | Sazpaimon | yes |
| 16:52.49 | DocScrutinizer | but yes, it might be a difference between flashing and ramloading |
| 16:52.51 | Sazpaimon | which requires downloading the 1GB+ fiasco image |
| 16:53.13 | javispedro | you will end up needing it sooner or later |
| 16:54.22 | DocScrutinizer | but then you probably shouldn't use -f ? |
| 16:54.53 | DocScrutinizer | as -f means "flash *all* images provided" |
| 16:55.04 | Sazpaimon | not if you add --flash-only |
| 16:55.06 | javispedro | that's what --flash-only is for |
| 16:55.41 | javispedro | actually, if it's the first time you're switching to openmode, it's best to actually let it flash the rootfs. |
| 16:56.01 | Sazpaimon | why? because of accounts? |
| 16:56.17 | javispedro | accounts, certs, positioning, the whole gang |
| 16:56.28 | Sazpaimon | couldnt you just delete the output of apscli -s signon-private:Se -lu |
| 16:56.41 | Sazpaimon | and rm -rf /home/user/.signon |
| 16:57.08 | javispedro | dunno why the last step |
| 16:57.30 | Sazpaimon | yeah probably dont need that last step |
| 16:57.53 | Sazpaimon | I think my credit card was skimmed |
| 16:58.07 | Sazpaimon | i just got a $250+ charge from alipay.com |
| 16:58.10 | Sazpaimon | and yahoo wallet |
| 16:58.11 | javispedro | and in any case, signon is only one of the ~10 users of aegisfs. |
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| 17:05.19 | RST38h | moos at javispedro |
| 17:05.52 | javispedro | moo RST38h |
| 17:07.32 | RST38h | going to Paris tomorrow |
| 17:08.06 | javispedro | oh, funny |
| 17:08.09 | javispedro | for more than a week? |
| 17:08.14 | RST38h | Sunny. +21oC. Sunny. +21oC. |
| 17:08.26 | RST38h | Why the hell is it "Sunny. -5oC" here still? |
| 17:08.36 | RST38h | javispedro: Just a week |
| 17:09.01 | Sazpaimon | so what apscli command handles positioning? |
| 17:10.06 | Sazpaimon | the output of apscli -s positioningd-private@com.nokia.maemo.positioningd.:Pe -lu right? |
| 17:11.13 | javispedro | feel free to experiment |
| 17:11.32 | javispedro | on my device I got entirely rid of aegisfs |
| 17:14.41 | Sazpaimon | also is there a way to get ssh as root to use opensh? |
| 17:26.20 | Sazpaimon | or i guess i could remove /home/user/.aegis |
| 17:26.23 | Sazpaimon | and let it get rebuilt |
| 17:27.42 | Sazpaimon | that looks like it works |
| 17:32.02 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: sup |
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| 17:39.25 | Sazpaimon | oh looks like tracker-store is killing my cpu usage |
| 17:39.47 | Sazpaimon | does this happen when changing to open mode? |
| 17:45.26 | javispedro | no |
| 17:46.45 | Sazpaimon | well i killed the tracker cache |
| 17:46.56 | Sazpaimon | and killed all the tracker programs and smartsearch, and it went away |
| 17:47.05 | Sazpaimon | I'll check again once I reboot |
| 17:51.17 | pa | does anybody know how to switch on/off the wifi via api? |
| 17:52.34 | pa | im checking the qmsystem api, but i cant find anything about it |
| 17:53.39 | Sazpaimon | oh wait |
| 17:53.51 | Sazpaimon | removing .aegis removes all my messages? |
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| 18:07.31 | Opaa | Have anyone solved problem with turning device lock off? |
| 18:09.48 | DocScrutinizer | Sazpaimon: not only those |
| 18:10.25 | Sazpaimon | so i' |
| 18:10.36 | Sazpaimon | so i'll need to restore the old .aegis folder |
| 18:10.42 | Sazpaimon | reflash the regular kernel |
| 18:10.55 | Sazpaimon | backup, then flash the open mode kernel, then restore? |
| 18:10.59 | Sazpaimon | or is there a shortcut |
| 18:11.04 | Sazpaimon | because i still have the old .aegis folder |
| 18:11.30 | DocScrutinizer | I'm afraid you might already be screwed when you got no backup |
| 18:12.02 | Sazpaimon | oh boy |
| 18:12.05 | DocScrutinizer | as there's no way to revert to normal mode without full reflash, as we're told lately |
| 18:12.33 | DocScrutinizer | and there's probably no access to .aegis without normal mode |
| 18:12.36 | Sazpaimon | i thought you could revert to normal mode as long as you didnt install anything |
| 18:12.48 | DocScrutinizer | and there's no way to restore .aegis in normal mode |
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| 18:13.02 | DocScrutinizer | this was true for 1.1 |
| 18:13.05 | Sazpaimon | oh yeah, i did modify .aegis in open mode |
| 18:13.09 | Sazpaimon | so yeah |
| 18:13.36 | Sazpaimon | i have an old backup from a few months ago, i think |
| 18:14.16 | Opaa | DocScrutinizer: is reflashing same as u can find from n9 Settings->Reset->clear device?` |
| 18:14.34 | DocScrutinizer | not really, I'd guess |
| 18:14.45 | Opaa | whats the difference? |
| 18:14.59 | Sazpaimon | yeah my last nokia link backup was from november |
| 18:15.04 | Opaa | but does this "clear device" full format my n9? |
| 18:15.04 | Sazpaimon | :/ |
| 18:17.21 | tomma | giving flasher some flag clears device lock and it will wipe everything |
| 18:17.43 | Sazpaimon | at least this backup has all my messages from my N900 and E71 before it |
| 18:17.58 | Sazpaimon | so i have about 3 years of messages saved |
| 18:18.04 | Sazpaimon | good enough for me |
| 18:18.54 | javispedro | how did you remove the tracker cache? |
| 18:19.01 | javispedro | your messages are stored in tracker, not aegis |
| 18:19.12 | javispedro | (save for certain mms stuff) |
| 18:19.16 | Sazpaimon | oh |
| 18:19.23 | Sazpaimon | well, then i made a terrible mistake |
| 18:20.06 | Sazpaimon | rm -rf /home/user/.cache/tracker/ |
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| 18:31.37 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: rm -rf / |
| 18:31.42 | ZogG_laptop | =) |
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| 18:47.59 | pa | does harmattan have the dbus-script-settings package? i cannot find it.. |
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| 19:03.38 | pa | or is there a way to log/sniff dbus events in some other way? |
| 19:06.41 | Opaa | what if i "clear device" from settings... and before that create backup package... so can load this backup afterwards? |
| 19:07.04 | Opaa | if i copy this backup package back to n9 memory |
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| 19:48.47 | pa | DocScrutinizer, ping |
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| 20:31.02 | pa | hmm does anybody know how i can replicate such a dbus event? signal sender=:1.3 -> dest=(null destination) serial=15413 path=/com/nokia/mce/signal; interface=com.nokia.mce.signal; member=radio_states_ind uint32 3 |
| 20:31.09 | pa | i mean from command line |
| 20:40.38 | jonni | you can listen with dbus-monitor, and send evens with dbus-send |
| 20:42.15 | pa | thats what im trying to do, but im not quite sure how should i set the dbus-send command line to replicate that event (listened with dbus-monitor) |
| 20:42.26 | pa | never done before.. :S |
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| 20:54.28 | pa | i tried this, but with an error: http://codepad.org/N3YaaIYs |
| 20:54.47 | pa | jonni, is it possible that it happens due to missing aegis credentials? (im doing just from the terminal) |
| 20:56.59 | pa | ok, maybe it was not a method call |
| 20:59.36 | pa | i tried to log the dbus signals after disabling the wlan, but replicanting them doesnt seem to work |
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| 21:05.56 | ZogG_laptop | ha. account plugin is not that easy =) |
| 21:08.31 | pa | ok, i found the way to disconnect the wlan.. but there's a problem: the dbus command does not "switch" off the switch in the settings menu, which leaves the auto-reconnect on |
| 21:08.41 | pa | any idea how to turn off that switch? |
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| 21:28.02 | pa | no nmcli on harmattan, right? |
| 21:36.12 | ZogG_laptop | nmcli? |
| 21:36.23 | ZogG_laptop | network-manager? |
| 21:45.02 | pa | yes |
| 21:45.34 | pa | i mean i found a dbus signal to turn off the wifi |
| 21:45.45 | pa | but it does not switch off the switch in the settings menu |
| 21:45.54 | pa | and it does not work to turn it on again |
| 21:46.07 | pa | so basically i need a way to control that switch |
| 21:46.19 | pa | but i dont know in which doc to look |
| 21:46.26 | pa | it doesnt seem very documented |
| 21:50.48 | AndrewX192 | Anyone know if there is a package for dig(1)? |
| 21:51.40 | ajalkane | pa: have you checked switching it with gconf? |
| 21:53.40 | ajalkane | and what switch do you mean precisely? |
| 21:54.42 | ajalkane | Do you want the "Allow background connections" switch to turn on/off ? |
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| 22:12.25 | crevetor | hi guys |
| 22:12.38 | crevetor | does anyone know how to extract a fiasco image from the OCF ? |
| 22:25.08 | jonni | crevetor: why do you need to do that? |
| 22:28.10 | jonni | (but you can easily find the answer howto do that with google) |
| 22:30.50 | crevetor | jonni: I tried google and didn't find |
| 22:31.01 | crevetor | Because I don'T have the fiasco image for my N950 |
| 22:31.37 | jonni | crevetor: google search "extract-OCF" and its the 1st hit |
| 22:32.01 | jonni | not that hard to find |
| 22:37.29 | crevetor | jonni: I guess I didn't trype the right thing. Thanks |
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| 22:41.40 | itsnotabigtruck | crevetor: with the windows version you can just un-7-zip it |
| 22:41.52 | itsnotabigtruck | 7-zip can extract almost anything |
| 22:41.56 | itsnotabigtruck | for everything else, there's mastercard |
| 22:42.01 | itsnotabigtruck | i mean, universal extractor |
| 22:42.07 | itsnotabigtruck | which is purpose-built for extracting installers |
| 22:47.08 | crevetor | lol |
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| 23:35.14 | AndrewX192 | First world problems: which device should I take when leaving the house. N900 or N9. |
| 23:46.31 | itsnotabigtruck | n9, for sure |
| 23:46.57 | itsnotabigtruck | unless there's something you routinely do on the 900 that you can't do with the n9, like crack wifi networks |
| 23:47.02 | tehdely | if you want to get a date, take the N9. it turns heads |
| 23:47.06 | tehdely | it's better than one of those mini-dogs |
| 23:47.08 | tehdely | or a nice cologne |
| 23:57.30 | AndrewX192 | itsnotabigtruck: I still haven't got my VPN working 100% on the N9 |
| 23:57.33 | AndrewX192 | Aegis is always in the way |
| 23:59.10 | villager | I always take both |
