| 00:43.42 | itsnotabigtruck | heh, i just realized that accli -I inquires about its /parent process'/ aegis state |
| 00:43.51 | itsnotabigtruck | rather than its own |
| 00:48.43 | itsnotabigtruck | which explains why aegis-exec accli -I and aegis-exec sh -c 'accli -I' produce drastically different results |
| 00:51.26 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone still here, who has open mode running? |
| 01:24.33 | tgalal | Sazpaimon: hey I did follow your advice :P |
| 01:24.46 | tgalal | basically I automated it |
| 01:24.48 | tgalal | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:27.55 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: meh, lacks the charm of sazpaimon's approach though |
| 01:28.29 | itsnotabigtruck | make it count how many times the button is pushed and say wazapp has been delayed by 1 more week each time :p |
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| 01:34.04 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: lol nice one |
| 01:34.14 | tgalal | I will |
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| 02:27.42 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone on? |
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| 05:44.43 | denism | hi, does anybody knows, which runlevels N9 has? |
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| 06:06.05 | jonni | denism: [023456] |
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| 06:07.48 | denism | jonni: thank you, do you know where is a list of names for them for dsmetool -t ? |
| 06:08.16 | denism | (like for example 2 or 5 = shutdown) |
| 06:10.17 | jonni | afaik dsmetool uses numbers for runlevels |
| 06:11.48 | denism | unluckily no, it requires names :( at least the receiver says: got telinit '2' from pid 3133: /sbin/dsmetool ignoring unknown telinit runlevel request |
| 06:12.04 | denism | and 'dsmetool -t shutdown' works properly |
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| 06:48.04 | jonni | denism: not all runlevels can be entered with dsmetool, but you have "shutdown, user, actdead and reboot" which it accepts as parameter. |
| 06:49.22 | DocScrutinizer | and N9 is particularly funny about actdead - even ssh sessions via WLAN survive transitions user->actdead |
| 06:50.07 | jonni | and serial console getty connection survices also :) |
| 06:50.25 | DocScrutinizer | so basically actdead just means: display disabled, really shut down when USB eventually unplugged |
| 06:50.45 | jonni | well it kills some processes |
| 06:50.57 | DocScrutinizer | idly wonders what actdead will result in when no USB plugged in |
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| 06:53.32 | DocScrutinizer | or am I just confused by powerbutton actually doing actdead instead of shutdown when usb (charger) plugged in? |
| 06:54.12 | DocScrutinizer | also, what's dsme shutdown going to do when device is charging? |
| 06:54.13 | jonni | DocScrutinizer: nope with powerbutton state changes to SHUTDOWN |
| 06:55.51 | jonni | but yes, after shutdown if you have usb icon showing in the screen then you are in initlevel 5 (actdead) |
| 06:56.32 | DocScrutinizer | since there's no real powerdown state as long as device hooked up to a power source and thus charging |
| 06:56.37 | denism | jonni: thank you |
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| 08:37.39 | rdnzl | using screenSaverDelayed from qml works as expected but i'm having org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied errors in sdk's application output window - do i need some aegis magic to silence this? |
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| 08:40.37 | Khertan | Morning |
| 08:42.54 | rdnzl | moin |
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| 09:12.13 | Khertan | How can i manage text highlight in a TextArea, i mean i want to color some words, i need to use pseudo <html> syntax ... but ... this mean i need to get all text, remove previous html tag, parse it, and set it ... each time onTextChanged, as there is no way to set partial text, or get information on partial changes, someone have another idea ? |
| 09:14.59 | rigo | KHertan, use CSS |
| 09:15.08 | Khertan | rigo ? |
| 09:15.18 | Khertan | css ? to highlight text ? |
| 09:15.19 | Khertan | how ? |
| 09:16.17 | rigo | by having a CSS class with a certain forground/background color and wrapping <span class="yourclass">highlighted text</span> |
| 09:16.47 | Khertan | yeah .... of course |
| 09:17.04 | Khertan | this solve nothing |
| 09:17.19 | rigo | dunno which capacities the thing has, but if the rendering is based on web stuff ... |
| 09:17.57 | Khertan | you need to parse the text on onTextChanged signal remove all span, parse the text, put span, put the result in the TextArea.text |
| 09:18.13 | Khertan | rigo: which capacity TextArea have ? |
| 09:18.40 | rigo | ah, ok, just triggered by the "web" keyword. Don't know how they handle this internally. |
| 09:19.25 | rigo | in general terms, you need a selector to manipulate that selector with CSS |
| 09:19.31 | Khertan | (i never talk about web ... :) but didn't precise that it was a qml TextArea :) ) |
| 09:19.32 | rigo | span is such a selector |
| 09:20.09 | Khertan | but yeah i know how manipulate things in html :) |
| 09:20.15 | Khertan | with js |
| 09:20.20 | rigo | so if this is using pseudo web (dunno how far), the way is to create a selector and then manipulate the selector |
| 09:20.33 | Khertan | it s pseudo html :) not pseudo web :) |
| 09:20.47 | rigo | sur, JS is always the more complex option ;) |
| 09:20.49 | Khertan | as you cna't manipulate the content of a TextArea |
| 09:21.27 | Khertan | Get and Set text is the only methods managing the content |
| 09:21.34 | Khertan | a bit limited |
| 09:21.49 | rigo | but if the content of TextArea already contains your selector, you can address it without parsing, changing and re-injecting |
| 09:22.21 | Khertan | it s qml ... not javascript ... you can't set partial content |
| 09:22.37 | Khertan | also can't retrieve partial content |
| 09:22.52 | Khertan | nor knowing what have been updated on textChanged |
| 09:23.26 | rigo | => not for me anymore, sorry |
| 09:23.33 | Khertan | :) |
| 09:23.46 | Khertan | i ve try many work arround to avoid qml |
| 09:24.23 | Khertan | but last update on harmattan breaks the QTextEdit widget ... or something else in the QProxyWidget |
| 09:24.33 | Khertan | so KhtEditor segfault |
| 09:24.49 | Khertan | and the only way arround is to rewrite it with something officially supported |
| 09:25.18 | rigo | and I have no clue what is officially supported |
| 09:25.35 | rigo | you'll have to wait for jonni |
| 09:25.35 | Khertan | qml |
| 09:25.54 | Khertan | :) |
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| 09:32.29 | ZogG_laptop | sup dudes |
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| 09:57.29 | dm8tbr | not mucken futch |
| 10:05.59 | ieatlint | i learnt that oven + alcohol can equal 2nd degree burn |
| 10:06.18 | ieatlint | also, pizza |
| 10:08.30 | deram | easily.. also lumps of coal when combined with not enough sleep in past day |
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| 12:06.03 | pa | can i use the same firmware for flashing the 16 and the 64 version of N9? |
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| 12:06.51 | denism | pa: yes |
| 12:08.41 | pa | ok thanks :) |
| 12:32.15 | Khertan | someone have voodoo dolls of the inventors of QML at Trolltech/Nokia ? |
| 12:32.50 | Khertan | want to offer some voodoo pin's |
| 12:34.58 | jonni | hides behind a tree |
| 12:35.11 | X-Fade | Khertan: spotify:track:0IYlWIpSsxobpYlFz38VbJ |
| 12:35.38 | X-Fade | Or http://open.spotify.com/track/0IYlWIpSsxobpYlFz38VbJ even :) |
| 12:40.44 | Khertan | X-Fade: already listening : http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Please+Destroy+This+World/4cjNU0?src=5 |
| 12:41.22 | X-Fade | Khertan: Ah, nice and quiet song :) |
| 12:41.51 | Khertan | I listening that when i want to relax |
| 12:41.52 | Khertan | :) |
| 12:43.43 | X-Fade | Oh yes, very relaxing song.. Real chill out music. |
| 13:05.39 | Khertan | X-Fade: if you prefer french dark female voice : http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Pourquoi/32rlQZ?src=5 |
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| 13:54.24 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone on with open mode running |
| 13:55.42 | itsnotabigtruck | Khertan pa denism ieatlint deram ZogG_laptop ^ |
| 14:00.15 | Khertan | what did you call "open mode" ? |
| 14:00.17 | Khertan | devel mode ? |
| 14:00.37 | Khertan | or kernel without aegis ? |
| 14:02.09 | deram | open mode is with open kernel, I presume, and no, just devel mode on my device |
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| 14:02.22 | Khertan | itsnotabigtruck: so just devel mode here |
| 14:03.05 | itsnotabigtruck | deram Khertan: i meant, any configuration that produces the disclaimer on boot |
| 14:03.23 | itsnotabigtruck | it doesn't have to be a special kernel, in fact it's better if it's not |
| 14:04.08 | deram | no disclamer, I'm still within the warranty |
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| 14:15.40 | pa | no, i still try to believe it's ok to keep aegis there, but probably not for long.. |
| 14:17.54 | pa | question: is it normal that , when i use earphones (the stock nokia earphones) to call |
| 14:18.13 | pa | and i just call, and nothing else, the sound sucks hard? |
| 14:18.27 | pa | but if i start using the phone during the call, then it's ok |
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| 14:28.37 | pa | hmm |
| 14:28.45 | pa | perhaps it's coz of call recorder |
| 14:37.45 | pa | is by the way anyone using it? |
| 14:37.56 | pa | i tried to record calls while i was using the earphones |
| 14:38.04 | pa | and i cannot hear the voice from the caller |
| 14:38.07 | pa | mine i can |
| 14:39.07 | pa | probably it's because the microphone used is the one on the headset |
| 14:46.13 | pa | hm i tried with another without micro, but it's the same |
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| 15:11.45 | rigo | pa, interesting |
| 15:12.03 | rigo | I have it, but did not try it so far |
| 15:12.24 | pa | i remember i coul record some calls properly |
| 15:12.31 | pa | but without earphones |
| 15:14.48 | rigo | hm, curious, because the micro is redirected ok, but the sound isn't |
| 15:14.52 | ZogG_laptop | i recorded without headphones |
| 15:15.35 | rigo | unless the phone was nearby, the micro good enough and thus the phone micro recorded your voice, not the micro of the headset |
| 15:15.57 | rigo | and the speaker in the phone was deactivated thus no signal there, thus no recording |
| 15:16.32 | ZogG_laptop | i said without =) |
| 15:17.14 | rigo | pa was with |
| 15:20.15 | itsnotabigtruck | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.32 | Khertan | What type of rich text support QML TextArea ? |
| 15:24.43 | Khertan | only pseudo "html" ? RTF isn't supported ? |
| 15:27.31 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: nope |
| 15:27.47 | ZogG_laptop | Khertan: i think it is |
| 15:36.12 | Khertan | ZogG_laptop: doesn't look like :) |
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| 15:40.12 | Khertan | {\rtf1 ... doesn't works |
| 15:40.13 | Khertan | :) |
| 15:41.57 | Khertan | doesn't support too <span> |
| 15:41.59 | Khertan | grrrrrr |
| 15:44.19 | Khertan | voooodddooooo doll's needed here ! |
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| 16:18.20 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm |
| 16:18.27 | itsnotabigtruck | speed x is pretty cool, but it lacks volume control |
| 16:18.35 | itsnotabigtruck | looks like they forgot to include the policy file |
| 16:24.06 | itsnotabigtruck | er, except it does include a policy file |
| 16:24.07 | itsnotabigtruck | weird |
| 16:24.15 | pa | 20 nok |
| 16:24.16 | pa | hmm |
| 16:24.20 | pa | maybe i buy it |
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| 16:27.21 | pa | did anybody try FCam? |
| 16:27.26 | pa | i was looking at the api |
| 16:28.24 | pa | i saw that the focus is expressed in diopters |
| 16:28.37 | pa | is there any way to convert it to/from meters? |
| 16:30.23 | SpeedEvil | 1/10 dioptres = m |
| 16:30.33 | SpeedEvil | so 1 dioptre = 10cm |
| 16:30.35 | SpeedEvil | err |
| 16:30.36 | SpeedEvil | no |
| 16:31.05 | SpeedEvil | 1 dioptre = 1m, 2 = .5m, 4 = .25m, ... |
| 16:31.12 | SpeedEvil | reciprocal metres |
| 16:31.17 | pa | ah i see |
| 16:31.22 | pa | thanks |
| 16:31.44 | pa | but i guess it's not possible to use the camera as distance meter |
| 16:31.56 | SpeedEvil | Yes. |
| 16:32.09 | pa | at least not for too long distances |
| 16:32.11 | SpeedEvil | If you read out the distance of maximum sharpness, and calibrate |
| 16:32.19 | SpeedEvil | But only under a couple of meters or so |
| 16:32.22 | pa | yes |
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| 17:06.19 | villager | yeah... I once wanted to make an app for distance measurement that way, but found that you it doesn't take many meters to get to max focus anyway, so with such a limit, it wouldn't be too useful for what I wanted... |
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| 17:28.03 | rishi | Does anyone know how N9 implements the Accounts -> Google feature. It does not offer the usual OAuth web page. I am wondering whether it does something clever or not? |
| 17:28.47 | itsnotabigtruck | rishi: i don't think it uses oauth |
| 17:28.53 | itsnotabigtruck | but i'm not sure what it uses |
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| 17:32.25 | itsnotabigtruck | to reiterate, anyone here running open mode? |
| 17:32.39 | itsnotabigtruck | rishi villager SpeedEvil ^ |
| 17:33.55 | rishi | itsnotabigtruck: What is it? :-) Another name for the developer mode? |
| 17:35.25 | itsnotabigtruck | rishi: nah, it lets you boot custom kernels and disable aegis 'officially', at the cost of complexity and a scary warranty void screen |
| 17:35.32 | SpeedEvil | no\ |
| 17:35.51 | rishi | itsnotabigtruck: Then, no. |
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| 18:29.36 | Sazpaimon | i cant get kexec to work :/ |
| 18:29.48 | Sazpaimon | it just keeps resetting back to the original kernel |
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| 20:48.04 | jpwhiting | itsnotabigtruck: hey there, have you developed any harmattan apps yet? |
| 20:51.31 | itsnotabigtruck | jpwhiting: what do you count as an 'app' :p |
| 20:52.04 | itsnotabigtruck | i haven't built any fancy user friendly gui apps, if that's what you mean |
| 20:52.53 | jpwhiting | itsnotabigtruck: well, any app really, I'm making a remember the milk app for MeeGo, but have a question |
| 20:52.57 | itsnotabigtruck | but i'd imagine you've noticed my other projects |
| 20:53.12 | jpwhiting | mainly I don't see how to have a subclass of QApplication to hold all the app logic |
| 20:53.16 | jpwhiting | with slots and such |
| 20:53.29 | jpwhiting | because of the createApplication() booster thing |
| 20:54.05 | jpwhiting | guess I could have a regular QObject to hold all that stuff instead |
| 20:54.24 | itsnotabigtruck | no idea about that...have you installed inception? |
| 20:54.37 | jpwhiting | no, what's inception? |
| 20:55.08 | itsnotabigtruck | jpwhiting: :O |
| 20:55.20 | itsnotabigtruck | https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception |
| 20:55.42 | jpwhiting | kind of lurks here, but doesn't usually pay much attention, my bad |
| 20:55.43 | jpwhiting | looks |
| 21:00.02 | jpwhiting | wow, interesting |
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| 21:09.29 | itsnotabigtruck | jpwhiting: so, get incepted! :p |
| 21:09.43 | jpwhiting | may just do that |
| 21:10.25 | itsnotabigtruck | jpwhiting: i've done some other little apps but they aren't as interesting, though you might find ad-hac useful if you don't have that yet |
| 21:10.48 | jpwhiting | doesn't have a sim card in his N9, so that might be less than useful :) |
| 21:10.54 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 21:10.58 | jpwhiting | is stuck on verizon at the moment |
| 21:11.08 | jpwhiting | just use the N9 for development |
| 21:11.14 | itsnotabigtruck | aw, lame |
| 21:13.21 | jpwhiting | is lame :) |
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| 21:27.22 | Tronic | Any news on the overclocking side? |
| 21:31.29 | itsnotabigtruck | Tronic: not that i'm aware of...the problem is that no one with the knowledge to do it is willing to make the module and distribute it |
| 21:31.48 | itsnotabigtruck | Tronic: perhaps you could see to it, given that no one else is |
| 21:32.26 | itsnotabigtruck | it's definitely possible, rainisto mentioned on FMC he's already done it himself |
| 21:34.44 | Tronic | I have no idea how to compile kernel modules for Harmattan, to start with., |
| 21:35.06 | itsnotabigtruck | Tronic: it's surprisingly easy |
| 21:35.09 | Tronic | Also no idea on how to do the frequency setting. |
| 21:35.41 | Tronic | I suppose the "surprisingly easy" part involves setting up scratchbox. I only have Qt SDK. |
| 21:35.42 | itsnotabigtruck | i forget the command but you point make to the kernel tree and to your source |
| 21:35.49 | itsnotabigtruck | and kbuild takes care of the rest |
| 21:36.00 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, you need scratchbox, and also the headers package for what you're building against |
| 21:36.07 | itsnotabigtruck | you need to get scratchbox anyway |
| 21:36.32 | itsnotabigtruck | everyone doing anything serious needs itsooner rather than later, and i don't understand why it has so little uptake within this channel |
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| 22:32.36 | Khertan | Hi |
| 22:33.22 | Khertan | Someone could explain me the diffrerence in Qml Qt Component TextArea what is the difference between StyledText and RichText |
| 22:33.25 | Khertan | ? |
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| 23:01.47 | villager | Khertan: from what I can tell from a couple of searches, one of the differences is that StyledText isn't supported, maybe not implemented, and probably isn't supposed to work |
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