IRC log for #harmattan on 20120401

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05:34.35Novagx-fade if you can look into why my project isnt in appsformeego i would be greatful http://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=metro&project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3AHarmattan%3AApps%3ATesting
05:38.50itsnotabigtruckNovag: odd
05:38.56itsnotabigtruckhttp://repo-origin.apps.formeego.org/harmattan/apps-testing/armel/metro_1.0_armel.deb < the package itself is in the repo
05:40.10Novagwhy isnt it here then http://apps.formeego.com/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Graphics/
05:40.34itsnotabigtruckbtw Novag: since your package is architecture-independent, it should really be set to Architecture: all
05:40.40itsnotabigtrucknot any or armel
05:41.00itsnotabigtruckno idea about that though :(
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05:42.10Novagwould that be reason enough not to have it on the store? surely they would reject the package if it didnt meet the criteria
05:43.35itsnotabigtruckNovag: there aren't really any criteria, it's all automated
05:43.56itsnotabigtruckthe criteria are a) does it have pics, b) does it build, c) does it have a category on the list :p
05:44.26itsnotabigtrucki was just saying that because i noticed your package was marked as armel, not all
05:45.05itsnotabigtruckappsformeego seems to be a bit buggy, you're not the first person to have something not show up
05:45.34Novagit is only supported on N9 and N950 so shouldnt it be arm because its only supported on that device
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05:46.08itsnotabigtruckNovag: but if they made a new harmattan phone that's almost the same but had atom inside, it would still be compatible
05:46.20itsnotabigtrucki mean, this is all theoretical, the point is that correct info is good :p
05:47.26Novagi cant claim to know that because the package doesnt work on N900 so the next version might have a different gui again which would break it, i understand your point, i just compiled it the same way other themes were done
05:47.56itsnotabigtruckNovag: it's not about the target platform
05:48.07itsnotabigtruckit's about, does your package have cpu-specific files
05:48.15itsnotabigtruckif no, all, if yes, armel/i386/whatever
05:48.35Novagthanks, since its just a proof of concept at the moment i will update in on the next release
05:49.07itsnotabigtruckanyway...usually it takes a while for stuff to come up on the site, but i noticed your theme in the repo a few hours ago so it should be up by now :/
05:50.00sony123How do I gain the permission to execute 'ifconfig wlan0 up'?
05:50.09itsnotabigtrucksony123: develsh
05:50.19itsnotabigtruckopensh works too
05:50.51sony123Executing it as root I got something like 'SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not permitted'
05:51.12itsnotabigtrucksony123: i didn't say 'run it as root', did i
05:51.47Novagalright the only reason i asked why its not there is because "bossbot (bossbot) accepted request 4548 2 weeks ago "
05:51.50itsnotabigtruckbeing root doesn't help, the CAP::net_admin credential does
05:52.04itsnotabigtruckdevel-su actually resets your credentials
05:52.16itsnotabigtruckunlike su on a normal linux box, which would add capabilities
05:52.35itsnotabigtruckso you need to do the ifconfig from a develsh
05:52.56itsnotabigtruckbeing root doesn't hurt but you need to run develsh *after* devel-su
05:53.22itsnotabigtruckNovag: haha, ok, that's been a bit more than a few hours then :p
05:54.06sony123itsnotabigtruck: Ok thanks I see the difference.
05:54.19itsnotabigtrucksony123: it's definitely rather confusing
05:54.31itsnotabigtrucknormally, simply becoming root grants all linux capabilities
05:55.37sony123itsnotabigtruck: Yeah, so a big thank you :)
05:56.42itsnotabigtrucksony123: btw did you get incepted
06:00.29sony123itsnotabigtruck: No... it's sweet but the capabilities it provides are out of my reach so I don't have it.
06:00.54sony123itsnotabigtruck: But thanks for opening the door for other more hard-core devs
06:06.37itsnotabigtrucksony123: well, it doesn't hurt to install it anyway :p
06:12.20sony123I'll give it a try.. I saw creamy goodness has overclocking patch.
06:13.24itsnotabigtruckyeah, not sure it's such a great idea but it's cool to see someone finally went ahead and did it
06:14.32sony123You opened the flood gate :>
06:30.48itsnotabigtruckhttps://twitter.com/#!/tfadp/status/185901238477537281
06:30.50itsnotabigtruck:/
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08:33.53pabtw i made the wlan "toggle" sort of, now i have to understand how i can clone and rename a project/application before publishing it, coz i started from an existing n9 application project
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09:26.59phakopa: project settings, run and expand the packaging thing
09:27.19phakoit's the first thing under the list of files to install
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17:04.39slin123hi! i've just got my first own debian package deployed on my devdays n9!
17:05.33slin123does anybody know why i cannot uninstall it directly from the launcher?
17:05.57slin123if i press and hold no red cross appears.
17:06.15slin123i cann uninstall from the application manager though.
17:09.52jonnislin123: depends if you installed the package through the ui, or with dpkg from commandline.
17:10.24jonnior your desktop file.
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17:12.37slin123ah ok. i'll try installing using a file manager.
17:12.40slin123thanks
17:13.14SpeedEvilslin123: Congrats!
17:14.29itsnotabigtruckslin123: install using pkgmgr install-file -f foo.deb
17:14.38itsnotabigtruckthat installs through the same mechanism as the gui
17:15.07itsnotabigtruckalso you should put XB-MeeGo-Desktop-Entry-Filename in your debian/control but that doesn't always seem to do anything
17:16.12slin123well, sometimes harmattan docs are kind of lacking information...
17:17.13slin123thanks for your advise!
17:18.00slin123oh. baby cries! must leave. good night.
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17:20.18itsnotabigtruckslin123: oh, and make sure to get incepted
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17:31.48ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: drug dealer =)
17:38.17itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: lol
17:38.53itsnotabigtruckwell, it seems like a huge portion of irc 'dropins' haven't heard of it, so i might as well spam it when i have the chance :p
17:39.22itsnotabigtruckespecially since inception taking off is entirely dependent on developers doing cool things with it
17:43.36ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: btw account may have 3 plugins i need to write =)
17:44.01ZogG_laptopone for webupload lib, one for creation and account managment, one for sync (if i want sync)
17:47.39paany alternative pdf reader for harmattan, so far?
17:47.46palike okular, evince or xpdf
17:47.58pathe integrated one sucks.. many pdf cannot even be opened
17:55.13itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: damn :/
17:55.23itsnotabigtruckthink you're up to it?
17:55.31itsnotabigtruckthe docs aren't exactly excellent
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18:30.11ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: i think it would be ready when 2 meego phones would be released
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18:33.58itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: so never then?
18:34.02itsnotabigtruckthat was an unsubstantiated rumor
18:34.42ZogG_laptopmaybe i'll be able to do it oneday
18:37.06dm8tbrZogG_laptop: in that context a quote from #mer
18:37.07dm8tbr12:50:20< dm8tbr> we could have pointed him to _today's_ Nokia press release in which they repent, abandon MS and go full out MeeGo and that MeltMeCheese
18:42.46ZogG_laptopdm8tbr: i know what day today
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19:20.09tehdelythat would be a funny joke for nokia to play
19:23.02teleshoesanyone wanna find out if n9-button-monitor works for them, to do: volume_up key to toggle torch/flashlight and focus-then-snap pictures in camera app?
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20:02.54teleshoesanyone know how to start/stop/skip/next the built-in shitty music player with cli?
20:09.31Anssi138maybe with dbus command.
20:09.51teleshoesscrounging hasnt turned anything up
20:11.23teleshoesso i just found it
20:11.59teleshoesthe interface at least, using dbus-monitor
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20:33.53teleshoesoops, irc, right
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20:45.31Venemohi
20:45.45Venemodoes Fedora contain the X11 multitouch patches yet?
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20:48.44Venemoeh, wrong channel, sorry
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22:14.06itsnotabigtruckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4drucg1A6Xk&feature=related
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