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| 00:22.30 | itsnotabigtruck | just figured out how to get the debug output for all this telepathy stuff |
| 00:22.35 | itsnotabigtruck | this will make things a lot easier |
| 00:31.37 | DocScrutinizer | oh, you might've asked ;-D |
| 00:41.04 | GeneralAntilles | chuckles to himself while alliterating headlines. |
| 00:41.56 | GeneralAntilles | Does "Quim Gil soundly settles ceaseless susurrations surrounding a 'sudden switch-off' of maemo.org" sound too forced? |
| 00:44.32 | SpeedEvil | Sudden switchoff of certain servers? |
| 00:44.43 | GeneralAntilles | Oooh |
| 00:46.21 | GeneralAntilles | "Quim Gil soundly settles ceaseless susurrations surrounding a 'sudden switch-off' of certain services at http://maemo.org/" |
| 00:46.46 | GeneralAntilles | I guess I should drop maemo.org |
| 00:46.55 | SpeedEvil | :) |
| 00:47.12 | GeneralAntilles | s/certain services at maemo.org/certain servers/ |
| 00:47.36 | GeneralAntilles | Right, we'll see what Jaffa has to say about that in the morning. |
| 00:47.40 | GeneralAntilles | cackles. |
| 01:09.03 | Arie | qgil is trying his best, let's try and cut him some slack |
| 01:10.11 | GeneralAntilles | Arie, huh? |
| 01:10.55 | Arie | im a bit late to the party, i just got the message |
| 01:11.02 | GeneralAntilles | Which message? |
| 01:11.09 | GeneralAntilles | I've been involved in maemo.org for a very long time. |
| 01:11.19 | GeneralAntilles | I know exactly how dedicated and competent qgil is |
| 01:11.31 | GeneralAntilles | and nothing I've said was intended as a slight against him or his efforts. |
| 01:11.44 | GeneralAntilles | I'm just playing with words to while some time while editing mwkn.net. |
| 01:11.56 | Arie | i forget that this isnt tmo |
| 01:12.17 | GeneralAntilles | Don't do that. :P |
| 01:13.18 | Arie | lol, my bad |
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| 02:50.10 | diorahman | so, I have created a account plugin |
| 02:50.40 | diorahman | how to call it from an app? |
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| 02:56.11 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: libaccountsetup, i think |
| 02:56.27 | itsnotabigtruck | is there any interface provided to set an avatar for a google talk account? |
| 02:58.12 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: hum, did you try it :-) have an example? |
| 02:58.56 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: thanks anyway, it seems the way to go |
| 03:04.19 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: nope |
| 03:04.23 | itsnotabigtruck | any idea about the gtalk avatar |
| 03:04.50 | itsnotabigtruck | i don't really feel like adding a google account since doing so kinda invades everything |
| 03:05.15 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: not yet, will do some poc on this and I'll walk down to that, yeah poor documentation indeed |
| 03:05.52 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: if you have a google account added, just pull it up and see if there's an avatar field somewhere |
| 03:16.17 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm |
| 03:16.28 | itsnotabigtruck | how does one match a contact up with a twitter account |
| 03:19.24 | diorahman | hum, should change the provider file? |
| 03:22.29 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: to do what? |
| 03:23.01 | itsnotabigtruck | just fyi my questions about gtalk and twitter are totally unrelated to your account plugin |
| 03:28.28 | diorahman | hum, i dont know then |
| 03:28.37 | diorahman | btw, your suggestion works |
| 03:28.56 | diorahman | i could call the provider from my app |
| 03:29.16 | diorahman | now, looking for a way to so SSO |
| 03:29.32 | diorahman | and gwt credentials from the logged accounts |
| 03:29.46 | itsnotabigtruck | btw what's the plugin for? |
| 03:37.54 | diorahman | i wanna create a soundcloud app and my own app for managing an enterprise app |
| 03:40.25 | diorahman | and the next thing is to write a blog on this :-P |
| 03:44.28 | itsnotabigtruck | hm, cool |
| 03:44.53 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, use the signon password plugin |
| 03:45.05 | itsnotabigtruck | and provide two aegis tokens from your app |
| 03:45.15 | itsnotabigtruck | soundcloud-access and sso-encryption-token |
| 03:45.21 | itsnotabigtruck | the name of the latter one matters |
| 03:45.38 | itsnotabigtruck | then you need to assert the latter for signond::/usr/bin/signond |
| 03:45.44 | itsnotabigtruck | and both of them for your account plugin binary |
| 03:46.12 | itsnotabigtruck | also assert soundcloud-access for your frontend app |
| 03:47.14 | itsnotabigtruck | then when creating the signon identity specify username/secret/caption/method/mechanism/acl |
| 03:47.37 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: wow, nice, I havent read anything about that, example? :-) |
| 03:47.58 | itsnotabigtruck | because i just figured out most of that stuff today and most of it isn't documented |
| 03:48.03 | itsnotabigtruck | the signon stuff has ok documentation |
| 03:48.15 | diorahman | really? need to read the docs |
| 03:48.21 | itsnotabigtruck | no example, but what i said should be clear if you read the aegis manifest manualo |
| 03:48.26 | diorahman | where is the complete one? |
| 03:48.36 | itsnotabigtruck | if you haven't read up on aegis that's required reading :p |
| 03:49.22 | diorahman | i read that but havent write anything related |
| 03:49.28 | diorahman | not yet understand :-P |
| 03:50.07 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: where is the doc for signon? :-) |
| 03:50.28 | itsnotabigtruck | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/libsignon-qt/annotated.html |
| 03:50.34 | diorahman | btw, can we "fetch" credentials from facebook? |
| 03:50.41 | diorahman | *facebook plugin |
| 03:50.48 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: thanks |
| 03:50.54 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, wait |
| 03:50.57 | itsnotabigtruck | soundcloud uses oauth |
| 03:51.09 | itsnotabigtruck | you should talk to zogg, he's building an imgur client that uses signon-oauth2plugin |
| 03:52.00 | itsnotabigtruck | storing the pass won't do much good |
| 03:52.02 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman ^ |
| 03:52.36 | diorahman | yeah? is zogg released some source code? |
| 03:53.44 | itsnotabigtruck | not sure but > he's building an imgur client that uses signon-oauth2plugin |
| 03:54.01 | diorahman | just got the deb |
| 03:54.05 | diorahman | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80822&page=8 |
| 03:54.53 | diorahman | ZogG_laptop: could you share the skeleton of your app for this: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80822 |
| 03:54.55 | diorahman | thanks :-) |
| 03:55.36 | itsnotabigtruck | that deb doesn't have the accounts plugin |
| 03:56.10 | diorahman | yeah |
| 03:57.28 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: how about getting credential info from facebook plugin? |
| 03:57.43 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: how would that help |
| 03:58.02 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: that will useful for another app :-) haha |
| 03:58.29 | diorahman | there are many apps need to login to facebook |
| 04:03.01 | diorahman | i believe djszapi is the best man who can explain about this account-sso thing |
| 04:03.35 | diorahman | the signon-oauth2 is prettymuch in here: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2 |
| 04:05.39 | Sazpaimon | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/04/2012-03-0715dsc01922jt.jpg |
| 04:05.55 | Sazpaimon | unless youre nokia, where you can release 3+ different phone models that look exactly the same |
| 04:06.00 | Sazpaimon | rolls eyes |
| 04:07.00 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: i'm not sure if the accounts/sso stuff was really his department |
| 04:07.50 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, in order to get the account plugin working you'll need a lot of patience, trial and error, and reading of all the signon/libaccounts-ui/etc. source you can find |
| 04:09.43 | itsnotabigtruck | also, isn't there already a soundcloud account |
| 04:09.50 | itsnotabigtruck | excuse me, soundcloud app |
| 04:09.55 | itsnotabigtruck | though it costs $$$ :/ |
| 04:11.16 | diorahman | yes, i know, i just want to make a full featured app that's very ''harmattan" (seamless account management), push notification, etc |
| 04:11.54 | diorahman | Sazpaimon: Hahaha |
| 04:12.38 | itsnotabigtruck | also, i got the xmpp account plugin working with signon |
| 04:12.45 | itsnotabigtruck | the catch is that it breaks on certain servers |
| 04:13.25 | itsnotabigtruck | also the settings gui still isn't there |
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| 04:27.44 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: i dont think xmpp uses signon |
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| 06:35.46 | itsnotabigtruck | for the record, it can |
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| 09:21.28 | MFaro-Tusino | Is there a way to execute a script once, upon install? |
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| 09:35.44 | jonni | MFaro-Tusino: yes, debian packages support preinst script |
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| 10:03.24 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: pong |
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| 10:04.46 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: Sounds good - although the only change I'd make is to change "susurrations" to "suggestions" |
| 10:06.17 | MFaro-Tusino | Jonni: How do I add it? |
| 10:09.45 | jonni | MFaro-Tusino: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html |
| 10:10.44 | MFaro-Tusino | champion, will look it over, thanks hesps |
| 10:10.47 | MFaro-Tusino | *heaps |
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| 12:29.58 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: yeah it's frustrating; the oauth2 plugin example automatically launch webkit based signon-ui |
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| 13:38.17 | diorahman | how about this: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2 how to decouple it with /etc/signon-ui/webkit-options.d/ |
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| 18:27.39 | Jare | ummh, all of a sudden my n9 "lost the sim card" and now it says sim card error |
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| 18:30.18 | Jare | flight mode, rebooting or reinserting the sim card doesn't help, so I guess I have to try reflashing it. Can I do a full backup (installed programs, settings, user data etc.) somehow easily? |
| 18:30.37 | lilltiger | Where do I get Winflasher? the nokia tablet download page gives me an error when trying to download it now, I got it from there last time I used it |
| 18:37.34 | lilltiger | also where do I get NaviFirm, finds alot of downloads on google but all of the looks fishy |
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| 18:39.10 | lilltiger | ok found navifirm, still no luck with winflasher :/ |
| 18:41.38 | lilltiger | got it as well, guess it was just chroome that dident like that page |
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| 19:08.16 | lilltiger | ahh doh, winflasher dosent work in win7 :/ |
| 19:08.20 | lilltiger | 64bit |
| 19:10.26 | itsnotabigtruck | lilltiger: it works for me |
| 19:10.39 | itsnotabigtruck | what's wrong with it? |
| 19:10.54 | itsnotabigtruck | if you're trying to double-click flasher.exe after you install it, do realize it's a command line program |
| 19:11.54 | lilltiger | naa it was winflasher |
| 19:12.03 | lilltiger | i need to find the flasher.exe cmd line app |
| 19:12.05 | itsnotabigtruck | the exe is called flasher.exe |
| 19:12.12 | itsnotabigtruck | the installer is called winflasher_something |
| 19:12.25 | itsnotabigtruck | did you even try installing it |
| 19:12.27 | itsnotabigtruck | this isn't complicated |
| 19:13.32 | lilltiger | when i ran the winflasher.exe it said that itäs not for this version of windows |
| 19:14.20 | lilltiger | and i remember using the cmd line tool last time, hmm maybe i shuld install it in comp mode? |
| 19:14.47 | lilltiger | nope dident help |
| 19:14.56 | itsnotabigtruck | maybe you got a corrupt download |
| 19:15.10 | itsnotabigtruck | also you need 3.12.1 or whatever it is |
| 19:16.02 | lilltiger | 3.12.1 and it says itäs only for 32bit windows |
| 19:16.53 | itsnotabigtruck | no, it says the program is 32 bit |
| 19:16.56 | itsnotabigtruck | it still works on 64 bit |
| 19:17.34 | lilltiger | hmm strange |
| 19:19.05 | lilltiger | you where right, the first download failed it seems, did get the full file :/ |
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| 19:32.48 | jonni | Jare: sometimes there are connect problems, kludge fix is to tape a thin layers of tape on top of the simcard making it thicker, usually gets better connect after that. |
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| 19:57.13 | piggz | handy...n9 has dbus-monitor |
| 20:02.50 | lilltiger | Hmm, when i try to flash my openmode 1.1 phone with the stock 1.1 it says downgrade not possible :/ |
| 20:10.21 | lilltiger | So do I need to Hard Reset (Clear Device) my N9 if I want to remove the old openmode? |
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| 20:25.31 | piggz | how can i monitor the sesssion bus for 'user' when i can only log in as developer or root? |
| 20:49.17 | jonni | lilltiger: if you had some variant 1.1 in your phone then stock 1.1 is a downgrade |
| 20:50.12 | khertan | pfff track and protect is shitty on harmattan |
| 20:50.15 | khertan | lost my phone |
| 20:50.20 | khertan | unable to localize it |
| 20:50.22 | teleshoes | balls |
| 20:50.27 | khertan | it s ringing |
| 20:50.32 | khertan | but in silence mode |
| 20:59.26 | itsnotabigtruck | lilltiger: the reset options in the settings menu aren't an actual reset |
| 20:59.41 | itsnotabigtruck | if you want to go back out of open mode you need to flash the same firmware you already have, or something with a higher version |
| 20:59.57 | Jare | jonni: there are very clear contact marks on the sim card and it shouldn't fail by itself, should it? The n9 keeps periodically asking for the pin code, but otherwise the sim card appears to be malfunctioning |
| 21:00.00 | itsnotabigtruck | 1.2 is a significant improvement over 1.1 so i'd suggest you grab 1.2 variant 001 and flash that |
| 21:00.14 | itsnotabigtruck | Jare: what if you try flashing the cmt only |
| 21:00.47 | Jare | what does it contain? |
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| 21:02.15 | jonni | Jare: there has been few cases where tape helps.... there was a bunch of devices/simcards that needs tape on simcard backside. |
| 21:02.58 | jonni | but ofcourse sometimes simcards break, but your operator should be able to replace that for free. |
| 21:03.33 | itsnotabigtruck | jare: cmt = cellular modem something |
| 21:03.42 | itsnotabigtruck | it's part of teh firmware image |
| 21:03.47 | itsnotabigtruck | just use -f --flash-only=cmt |
| 21:04.21 | itsnotabigtruck | also, working on this XMPP account plugin i ran into another pr1.1+ api :/ |
| 21:04.28 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm getting really tired of this sdk business |
| 21:05.32 | itsnotabigtruck | jonni: if it hasn't been done already any chance you could put in a word that the pr1.3 sdk needs to be released after that version comes out |
| 21:05.36 | itsnotabigtruck | um, if it exists at all yada yada |
| 21:05.54 | jonni | itsnotabigtruck: noted. :) |
| 21:06.37 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm afraid they'll do the same thing with pr1.3 they did with pr1.2 and pr1.1, and then once harmattan's completely wound down then the proper sdk will be forever lost |
| 21:08.40 | jonni | dont worry there is improvement coming to current situation, if there is ever pr1.3 coming :) |
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| 21:21.20 | Jare | as I suspected, a few layers of tape didn't change anything. I'll try to test a different phone/sim card and flash after that. Hopefully there's nothing wrong with the n9 itself... |
| 21:27.32 | itsnotabigtruck | jare: try the cmt only flash |
| 21:27.43 | itsnotabigtruck | that won't erase your data |
| 21:27.51 | itsnotabigtruck | it also probably won't help, it's a shot in the dark, but it might |
| 21:28.10 | itsnotabigtruck | i know that the sort of problem you have can happen if the CMT doesn't like the firmware it's flashed with |
| 21:28.29 | teleshoes | hey, any inception 0.2 / 1.0 / 2.0 news? |
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| 21:36.56 | Jare | itsnotabigtruck: yes, I'll do that after testing the sim card. I would have high hopes on the reflash, if the phone was a Lumia... ;) |
| 21:49.12 | teleshoes | itsnotabigtruck, i have a quick question. how should i tell people to put a file in /etc/init with inception? |
| 21:50.02 | teleshoes | they report that the file they stuck in there with opensh is 644, root.root owned, and they dont have permission to read it, while they CAN read /etc/init/ssh.conf |
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| 21:57.18 | DocScrutinizer | err 644 should allow world to read |
| 21:57.24 | teleshoes | yea |
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| 21:57.29 | teleshoes | it should |
| 21:58.04 | teleshoes | he pasted the code though, and its like: |
| 21:58.05 | teleshoes | $ root: cat /etc/init/file.conf |
| 21:58.05 | teleshoes | Permission denied. |
| 21:58.22 | teleshoes | while cat /etc/init/ssh.conf works |
| 21:58.42 | DocScrutinizer | strange |
| 21:59.04 | teleshoes | he claims stat --format=%a is 644 on both |
| 21:59.11 | DocScrutinizer | dunno if aegis kicks in here as well |
| 21:59.16 | itsnotabigtruck | i think that might have something to do with /etc/init being an 'immutable directory' |
| 21:59.17 | teleshoes | thats what im assuming |
| 21:59.31 | itsnotabigtruck | i haven't looked into /etc/init much but there's some weird aegis stuff related to that and only that |
| 21:59.32 | teleshoes | this is an aegis-wall i have not hit up against yet |
| 21:59.38 | teleshoes | well, fuck |
| 21:59.47 | itsnotabigtruck | what if you try installing into there |
| 21:59.52 | teleshoes | he was able to |
| 21:59.56 | teleshoes | he got the file there |
| 22:00.04 | itsnotabigtruck | no, i mean, install into there as a package |
| 22:00.05 | teleshoes | and then he couldnt read from it |
| 22:00.09 | itsnotabigtruck | not cp something in |
| 22:00.15 | teleshoes | he couldnt do that anyway |
| 22:00.18 | teleshoes | he used inception |
| 22:00.26 | itsnotabigtruck | so? what does that have to do with it |
| 22:00.31 | teleshoes | oh what do you mean? |
| 22:00.39 | itsnotabigtruck | make a package with the initscript and install it |
| 22:00.41 | DocScrutinizer | friggin incredible that you can write to a file you couldn't read afterwards |
| 22:00.45 | teleshoes | yea, that should work |
| 22:00.48 | teleshoes | yea exactly |
| 22:00.51 | teleshoes | totally weird |
| 22:01.01 | itsnotabigtruck | and then assert whatever privileges you want |
| 22:01.10 | jonni | that is normal, if refhaslish sha1 matches and is signed, then after reboot he can cat the file just fine. |
| 22:01.35 | DocScrutinizer | try setting the file 666 ;-P |
| 22:01.39 | teleshoes | heh |
| 22:01.55 | teleshoes | its not signed |
| 22:02.27 | teleshoes | i guess he just has to wait until i package it in a deb |
| 22:02.42 | teleshoes | or use openmode |
| 22:03.09 | DocScrutinizer | jonni: wait, you say refhashlisted files are even not READable? |
| 22:03.12 | jonni | ifts not signed, then its malf time on next reboot |
| 22:03.19 | teleshoes | oh fuck |
| 22:03.22 | teleshoes | lemme tell hium that |
| 22:03.24 | teleshoes | right now |
| 22:03.45 | jonni | DocScrutinizer: if its immutable fir and you change the file, you need to sign and flush (easier just to reboot) to be able to read the new file |
| 22:03.50 | jonni | fir=dir |
| 22:04.00 | teleshoes | jonni: what should he do? |
| 22:04.05 | teleshoes | is it enough to just remove the file? |
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| 22:04.10 | teleshoes | it is, right? |
| 22:04.15 | teleshoes | cause the hash will be the same |
| 22:04.31 | jonni | if he copies original file over it then hash is the same |
| 22:04.38 | lilltiger | itsnotabigtruck: hmm I heard that flashing 1.2 onto openmode 1.1 caused issues, but that might not be true? |
| 22:04.43 | jonni | if he removes, then its malf on next reboot |
| 22:04.43 | teleshoes | no original file |
| 22:04.50 | teleshoes | its a new file |
| 22:04.57 | DocScrutinizer | yeah!! ^^^ |
| 22:05.05 | DocScrutinizer | jonni: ^^ |
| 22:05.23 | DocScrutinizer | still you said immutable DIR |
| 22:05.26 | teleshoes | jonni: if the file is a new file in an immutable dir, he can just remove it |
| 22:05.27 | DocScrutinizer | o.O |
| 22:05.29 | jonni | ah, new file, then most likely remove is enough |
| 22:05.33 | teleshoes | ok cool, thanks |
| 22:05.47 | DocScrutinizer | mhm |
| 22:05.55 | jonni | I missread and though that he has changes ssh.conf |
| 22:05.58 | DocScrutinizer | immutable dirs, what a fine BS |
| 22:06.26 | lilltiger | So if I have the 1.1 openmode I can just flash the 1.2 for my phone on it and get thr regular 1.2? |
| 22:07.02 | teleshoes | so, if he reboots, it will malf |
| 22:07.21 | teleshoes | because the dir is sha-ed? |
| 22:07.34 | jonni | teleshoes: shouldnt malf unless he has changed sha'ed file |
| 22:07.40 | teleshoes | ok, cool |
| 22:08.26 | DocScrutinizer | turns awaya for a little throwing up, mumbling "incredible how they managed to fsckup a proper OS with some security BS" |
| 22:08.34 | teleshoes | im so with you |
| 22:08.51 | jonni | well if your familiar with aegis, you can easily get around it |
| 22:08.57 | teleshoes | how? |
| 22:09.03 | DocScrutinizer | BWAHAHAHA |
| 22:09.23 | jonni | you can sign add init.conf to refhashlist and resign and flush |
| 22:09.25 | itsnotabigtruck | lilltiger: do you want to stay in open mode, or not so much |
| 22:09.31 | jonni | sign=just |
| 22:09.37 | teleshoes | yea |
| 22:09.54 | teleshoes | thats a nightmare, jonni |
| 22:09.57 | itsnotabigtruck | lilltiger: if you want to stay in open mode, flash 1.2, and then flash a custom kernel for 1.2 |
| 22:10.11 | itsnotabigtruck | lilltiger: if you want to go to closed mode, flash 1.2 including both the main and the emmc |
| 22:10.17 | lilltiger | itsnotabigtruck: well, it dosent matter wich realy, I dident get Network File System to work in openmode either :/ |
| 22:10.26 | teleshoes | i have officially decided aegis is a thing to get around |
| 22:10.32 | teleshoes | like a dead animal in the street |
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| 22:11.25 | lilltiger | itsnotabigtruck: main and the emmc, main is the longname_blaha.bin right, but what is the emmc? |
| 22:11.28 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm, i thought /etc/init.conf was only related to dsme's immutable files scheme |
| 22:11.36 | DocScrutinizer | I have decided for me the same regarding HARM at large |
| 22:11.36 | itsnotabigtruck | er, mandatory files |
| 22:11.54 | teleshoes | harm has nice ux elements that i couldnt care any less about |
| 22:12.20 | lilltiger | harm would be kinda neat without aegis.. |
| 22:12.27 | lilltiger | no idea why they added that crap.. |
| 22:12.33 | itsnotabigtruck | who doesn't like nice ux elements? |
| 22:12.40 | teleshoes | dont get me wrong |
| 22:12.42 | teleshoes | i like em |
| 22:12.44 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, i'm getting a feeling we're about to retread the same boring aegis argument |
| 22:12.48 | teleshoes | yea sry |
| 22:12.54 | lilltiger | =) |
| 22:12.56 | teleshoes | happens whenever i get really angry about it |
| 22:13.13 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, lilltiger: just go with regular mode and incept it after installing 1.2 |
| 22:13.22 | itsnotabigtruck | just make sure to do a full flash (i.e. including the emmc) |
| 22:13.31 | itsnotabigtruck | otherwise you might have trouble with stuff left over from open mode |
| 22:13.41 | lilltiger | itsnotabigtruck: how do I make sure of that? |
| 22:13.53 | lilltiger | as I have no idea what emmc is |
| 22:14.03 | teleshoes | emmc is MyDocs and /home/user |
| 22:14.12 | itsnotabigtruck | lilltiger: just look up my flashing guide |
| 22:14.30 | teleshoes | the one-and-only sticky thread |
| 22:14.31 | teleshoes | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 |
| 22:15.19 | teleshoes | itsnotabigtruck, any news on new inception release? |
| 22:15.29 | DocScrutinizer | if this was actually the *only* sticky thread in tmo then that'd be quite an offense |
| 22:15.53 | teleshoes | only one on n9 |
| 22:19.38 | itsnotabigtruck | well, that's because the N9 forum is kinda forgotten |
| 22:19.43 | itsnotabigtruck | all the stickies are in the other one |
| 22:20.34 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, teleshoes: it's not arriving until pr1.3 for fairly obvious reasons |
| 22:20.50 | itsnotabigtruck | but just a few bugs to investigate and it'll be locked on for release |
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| 22:34.20 | teleshoes | cool deal |
| 22:39.11 | itsnotabigtruck | anyone know what mechanism modifies the telepathy account parameters during a connection |
| 22:39.38 | itsnotabigtruck | specifically, username from the accounts database to account in telepathy |
| 22:40.29 | ZogG_laptop | diorahman: what you searched me for? |
| 22:41.10 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck told me about you imgur apps, which connect with signon fw |
| 22:41.19 | diorahman | and possibly account fw |
| 22:41.19 | diorahman | :-) |
| 22:41.24 | diorahman | ZogG_laptop: ^ |
| 22:41.29 | ZogG_laptop | account no |
| 22:41.35 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: what's wrong with popping up webkit for oauth |
| 22:41.38 | itsnotabigtruck | that's what it's supposed to do |
| 22:41.43 | ZogG_laptop | but i managed to get token with oauth2plugin if you want |
| 22:41.45 | itsnotabigtruck | also, xmpp does support using signon |
| 22:42.01 | itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: didn't you show me a screenshot of imgrup in the accounts list |
| 22:42.21 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck i need to launch accounts ui instead of web browser |
| 22:42.30 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: i just made provider and icon |
| 22:43.03 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: it looks like what you need is <AccountsUI/NClient> |
| 22:43.07 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: yeah? xmpp suppot signon? cool. I saw the code but couldn't find the line |
| 22:43.21 | itsnotabigtruck | that's part of libnaccounts-ui-dev |
| 22:43.27 | itsnotabigtruck | that's the header file for spawning accounts-ui |
| 22:43.37 | itsnotabigtruck | so you'd spawn it to the account entry screen for your provider |
| 22:44.00 | itsnotabigtruck | then your plugin asks for the username, which is then handed off to signon, which pops up webkit |
| 22:44.15 | itsnotabigtruck | user logs in, producing oauth credential that gets stored in signon |
| 22:44.44 | itsnotabigtruck | then later on in order to log on you ask signon to crunch the oauth token for you to send to the service to log in |
| 22:45.11 | itsnotabigtruck | also, the signon integration is part of telepathy-sasl-signon which is closed source |
| 22:45.21 | itsnotabigtruck | it's also a little bit bugged which is causing major problems for me |
| 22:45.40 | itsnotabigtruck | it sends the entire jabber id as the sasl identity, and the prosody jabber server wants it to be just the nickname |
| 22:45.44 | itsnotabigtruck | (nodepart) |
| 22:45.54 | itsnotabigtruck | i'd bug it but it's waaaay too late for that |
| 22:46.08 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: I could somehow call the provider by using this line: https://gist.github.com/2340196 |
| 22:46.25 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: that's meant to be used from accounts-ui |
| 22:46.29 | itsnotabigtruck | use the NClient instead |
| 22:46.58 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: OK I'll take a look at that |
| 22:47.19 | diorahman | so, ZogG_laptop do you use the oauth2 example from gitorious? |
| 22:47.40 | ZogG_laptop | diorahman: sort of |
| 22:49.23 | diorahman | ZogG_laptop: how to 'dispatch' emit userActionRequired(uiSession); to launch another thing instead of webkit-based ui? |
| 22:49.37 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: i don't understand what you mean |
| 22:49.51 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: which one? |
| 22:49.52 | itsnotabigtruck | you do realize that the entire point of oauth is to request a token using the provider's website |
| 22:49.58 | itsnotabigtruck | i just explained the flow above |
| 22:50.02 | ZogG_laptop | diorahman: i don't i use webkit |
| 22:50.04 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: yes |
| 22:50.20 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: so why do you say you want to not use webkit, that makes no sense |
| 22:50.27 | diorahman | i just want to remove the browser part and use "headless" instead |
| 22:50.34 | ZogG_laptop | diorahman: it's the same in new twitter |
| 22:50.40 | ZogG_laptop | it was different in xauth |
| 22:51.19 | diorahman | ZogG_laptop: you use xauth? yeah, maybe something like xauth so we dont have to launch webkit based ui |
| 22:51.28 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: ^ |
| 22:51.52 | ZogG_laptop | no xauth anymore |
| 22:51.58 | ZogG_laptop | but who cares |
| 22:52.07 | ZogG_laptop | you don't need it, its one time approval |
| 22:53.02 | diorahman | ZogG_laptop itsnotabigtruck my intention: to have a nice flow just like facebook, twitter and meein apps in harmattan |
| 22:53.24 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: > you do realize that the entire point of oauth is to request a token using the provider's website |
| 22:53.27 | diorahman | you dont see browser launched |
| 22:53.28 | itsnotabigtruck | it sounds like you don't realize what oauth is |
| 22:53.39 | itsnotabigtruck | and the twitter account does launch the browser |
| 22:53.43 | itsnotabigtruck | starting with pr1.2 (or pr1.1?) |
| 22:54.10 | itsnotabigtruck | there's no getting out of using the browser with oauth, the idea is that the user logs in to the provider's website and the website issues a token |
| 22:54.36 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: we can simulate it using another server |
| 22:54.49 | ZogG_laptop | diorahman: you do in new twitter |
| 22:54.56 | ZogG_laptop | i mean new app |
| 22:55.45 | diorahman | ZogG_laptop: ? |
| 22:56.34 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck: do you see "browser" launched when you add account for facebook? |
| 22:56.39 | ZogG_laptop | diorahman: delete token from site and delete your accoount and readd it |
| 22:56.50 | itsnotabigtruck | diorahman: facebook on the n9 doesn't use oauth |
| 22:56.52 | itsnotabigtruck | twitter does on pr1.2+ |
| 22:56.59 | itsnotabigtruck | add a twitter account on pr1.2 and you'll see |
| 22:57.12 | ZogG_laptop | that's what i was telling for half an hour |
| 22:57.12 | itsnotabigtruck | they added the oauth engine specifically for twitter |
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| 23:07.09 | diorahman | itsnotabigtruck ZogG_laptop maybe because I just have this n950 with beta |
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| 23:09.11 | lilltiger | itsnotabigtruck: thanks, got it flashed and all |
| 23:09.53 | lilltiger | but the phone stilla "locks", that is stops responding to input and i have to press the button at it's side to get it reponsive again :/ |
| 23:12.21 | itsnotabigtruck | ugh, how does diorahman expect anyone to help him when he disappears before anyone can answer |
| 23:15.07 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, i finally figured out a configuration that makes xmpp work, and "sticks" |
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