| 00:04.02 | itsnotabigtruck | faenil: hm? it's just a mashup of some mass effect scene and skrillex, lol |
| 00:04.35 | itsnotabigtruck | btw what apps do you guys like...post them here http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=83689 |
| 00:08.26 | faenil | itsnotabigtruck, oh ok lol |
| 00:34.21 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-lumia-610-nfc-official-11222357/ that lumia doesn't actually look too bad |
| 00:34.47 | itsnotabigtruck | not as good as the 800 or 900 though, and in any case it still has wp7 under the hood :/ |
| 00:34.53 | itsnotabigtruck | http://www.xda-developers.com/feature/enjoying-chevron-say-goodbye-to-your-developer-unlock/ |
| 00:35.20 | faenil | yeah |
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| 01:24.52 | wook | mrst.c is related to events? |
| 01:27.46 | itsnotabigtruck | wook: mrst.c? in which program? |
| 01:29.29 | wook | in kernel though |
| 01:30.09 | itsnotabigtruck | no idea |
| 01:30.53 | wook | huh, it generates events, such as proximity sensor, camera cover, slider, keys.... |
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| 07:42.39 | MFaro-Tusino | Anyone have a suggestion as to which software i should use to create boot animations for N9? |
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| 09:08.25 | MFaro-Tusino | I have an idea for an app |
| 09:08.49 | beford | draw something |
| 09:09.05 | MFaro-Tusino | Spot on:P |
| 09:09.06 | MFaro-Tusino | haha |
| 09:09.18 | MFaro-Tusino | using dubs, create an app that runs on startup, so when holding vol+ in standby mode, camera opens, like on Belle FP1 and WP |
| 09:10.56 | beford | i think there is something like that already on the store, not sure if it works on standby mode though |
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| 09:14.49 | MFaro-Tusino | no, it only works to capture image |
| 09:14.55 | MFaro-Tusino | and app must be open first |
| 09:15.15 | beford | oh I see |
| 09:15.50 | MFaro-Tusino | i guess i could look at th source |
| 09:16.23 | beford | I believe thp is the author of one of them |
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| 09:20.52 | Khertan_Work | Morning |
| 09:22.29 | Khertan_Work | Question : when populating large text in a Qml TextArea, sometime, the OS ask if an application should be closed as it didn't respond, how i can avoid that, as the loading of the text is already done in a python thread, it s look like the problem is populating the qml textarea ? any idea ? |
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| 09:26.32 | MFaro-Tusino | Beford: Yes he is. Asked him but no reply yet |
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| 10:16.05 | faenil | hey guys anyone online? |
| 10:16.13 | faenil | need help with graphics... |
| 10:16.38 | faenil | I've got 3 frames alternating on my app, as if it was drawing the current frame, current-1, and current-2 |
| 10:16.54 | faenil | and it keeps drawing those 3 instead of only the current one |
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| 10:53.30 | MFaro-Tusino | can't you do a frameX and then after each load of the frame make x=x+1 ? |
| 10:53.35 | MFaro-Tusino | or something similar? |
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| 11:05.18 | phako | is there some canonical way to have the theme daemon rebuild its icon cache that will pass ovi QA or does a user need to live with that ugly red square? |
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| 11:20.04 | SpeedEvil | arghs at being unable to back out upgrades on android. |
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| 11:56.34 | itsnotabigtruck | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1193185&postcount=3 what the fsck |
| 11:57.17 | itsnotabigtruck | apparently they deliberately excluded israeli maps from the list to appease middle eastern countries that'd rather it not have ever existed |
| 11:58.11 | X-Fade | Welcome to the problems big companies face when selling things in different markets. |
| 11:59.22 | itsnotabigtruck | sort of...nokia seems to take that to a highly excessive extent |
| 11:59.32 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. not ever numbering a product "4" because of chinese superstition |
| 11:59.42 | itsnotabigtruck | they produce an inferior product by trying to pander to everyone |
| 11:59.49 | X-Fade | No, it is usually the ISP etc. |
| 11:59.56 | itsnotabigtruck | the iphone 4 doesn't seem to be doing too badly in china |
| 12:00.22 | tehdely | so basically you need to flash with the right emmc to have israel maps |
| 12:00.25 | tehdely | and can't actually download them through the uI |
| 12:00.29 | tehdely | brilliant |
| 12:00.33 | tehdely | how coudl this possibly go wrong |
| 12:00.35 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, apparently so |
| 12:00.40 | itsnotabigtruck | there might be a backdoor url to download the files also |
| 12:00.54 | X-Fade | Just flash an international variant? |
| 12:00.55 | itsnotabigtruck | i mean, it doesn't directly affect me, but that's just such a backwards arrangement |
| 12:01.24 | tehdely | i would almost think it should be the opposite |
| 12:01.35 | tehdely | israel is available unelss you have an EMEA phone... |
| 12:01.43 | tehdely | since the lion's share of countries that don't recognize its existence are in the middle east |
| 12:01.59 | tehdely | s/EMEA/ME/ |
| 12:02.02 | tehdely | EMEA obviouslyt oo wide an area |
| 12:02.21 | itsnotabigtruck | right, they could exclude it specifically in 006 firmware or something |
| 12:02.23 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway |
| 12:02.45 | itsnotabigtruck | no news on pr1.3 today? :( |
| 12:02.49 | X-Fade | I say we need more variants :) |
| 12:02.50 | pa | :D |
| 12:03.01 | tehdely | i want a variant for people who don't recognize belgium |
| 12:03.06 | tehdely | it's such a made-up country |
| 12:03.12 | tehdely | give me the no belgium emmc! |
| 12:03.13 | itsnotabigtruck | oh btw X-Fade: while you're here, i think the same thing that happened to ad-hac happened to mieru |
| 12:03.29 | tehdely | what happened to ad-hac |
| 12:03.32 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. the promotion bot getting confused and making a mess of things with multiple versions in play |
| 12:03.39 | tehdely | ah |
| 12:03.56 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: That is likely. The issue got fixed after these packages were submitted. |
| 12:04.04 | Khertan_Work | tehdely: belgium ... don't know. flaman land yes :) |
| 12:05.10 | tehdely | Khertan_Work: there should be a variant where wallonia is in france and flanders is in .nl |
| 12:05.11 | itsnotabigtruck | X-Fade: well that's good |
| 12:05.17 | tehdely | and brussels has been erased from the map |
| 12:05.20 | tehdely | is it so much to ask |
| 12:05.36 | itsnotabigtruck | direct intervention is probably required though to promote 2.2.29 over the old version that got promoted instead |
| 12:05.39 | Khertan_Work | :) |
| 12:06.00 | itsnotabigtruck | also it was a little bit different from ad-hac in that in this case the new version stayed in staging |
| 12:06.03 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Yeah, I guess I need to push it again. |
| 12:06.05 | itsnotabigtruck | instead of disappearing entirely |
| 12:06.18 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: :-) here you are |
| 12:06.24 | DocScrutinizer | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.51 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: would be nice to have you around there (you're chan owner) |
| 12:08.17 | DocScrutinizer | X-Fade: somebody might need to update /topic, for instance |
| 12:10.06 | DocScrutinizer | maybe somebody can forward my comment to X-Fade - I guess I'm on his ignore |
| 12:11.53 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Pushed the newer version in. Will build now. |
| 12:12.41 | itsnotabigtruck | X-Fade: cool :) if the issue's fixed now then i guess that's that |
| 12:12.47 | RST38h | OMG X-Fade is still alive and here |
| 12:13.21 | DocScrutinizer | RST38h: :-D |
| 12:13.43 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Yeah for new apps it is not a problem. Only ones that have existing QA going on. |
| 12:13.47 | itsnotabigtruck | X-Fade: also, not sure if you're able to do anything about this, but it seems to be impossible to use OBS' auto-signing functionality for repos |
| 12:13.57 | itsnotabigtruck | via osc signkey |
| 12:14.22 | itsnotabigtruck | (i'm guessing afm is using some arrangement other than OBS to do the signing) |
| 12:14.36 | X-Fade | Yeah, cobs has no signer. |
| 12:14.44 | X-Fade | So it can't sign repos :) |
| 12:15.17 | itsnotabigtruck | for some reason that didn't break on pr1.2 but it would still be desirable to be able to sign in order to ensure security and also allow defining aegis domains over built packages |
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| 12:16.32 | itsnotabigtruck | i.e. suppling users with a package that grants x, y, and z permissions to domain yharg which belongs to GPG key fingerprint f00df00df00d... |
| 12:17.04 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Everthing in afm is signed. |
| 12:17.08 | X-Fade | If it is published. |
| 12:17.26 | X-Fade | And it falls under the community-source-policy. |
| 12:17.33 | itsnotabigtruck | X-Fade: right, but that doesn't do any good for things that afm doesn't allow, which is a lot of things |
| 12:17.40 | itsnotabigtruck | and the community-source-policy is limited to dev permissions only |
| 12:18.41 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: We don't have cbd or whatever it is called :) So defining our own policies is not possible anyway? |
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| 12:19.34 | jonni | actually its limited to ovi permissions and not to dev permissions. |
| 12:19.52 | itsnotabigtruck | X-Fade: cbd? anyway, you just throw some xml in a package and incept it |
| 12:20.11 | itsnotabigtruck | and that can then subset the full set of permissions, add a GPG key, and add an apt source entry |
| 12:20.43 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: I wonder if that would still work in PR1.3. |
| 12:21.09 | itsnotabigtruck | incept awesome-repo_1.0_all.deb and then it's all taken care of |
| 12:21.29 | itsnotabigtruck | i expect it to |
| 12:31.08 | Khertan_Work | itsnotabigtruck: incept --fixallqmlproblem shitty.qml didn't works |
| 12:31.17 | Khertan_Work | incept isn't the answer to everythings |
| 12:31.18 | Khertan_Work | :) |
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| 12:37.01 | *** topic/#harmattan by DocScrutinizer -> A place for harmattan device and development discussions | Customers help customers on #N9, hurry and you're the senior member | Please stay on topic and no NDA stuff here | Developers : http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | council meeting #maemo-meeting today 15:00 UTC |
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| 12:37.29 | RST38h | btw when installing latets developers update, latrace did not install |
| 12:37.37 | RST38h | complained about aegis permissiosn |
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| 12:41.04 | javispedro | so, timezone reality check, meeting starts in 2:10 hours? |
| 12:41.21 | RST38h | heya javispedro |
| 12:41.33 | javispedro | moo RST38h |
| 12:41.45 | DocScrutinizer | javispedro: in my book, yes |
| 12:41.47 | RST38h | what meeting? do we get to throw cobblestones? |
| 12:41.48 | X-Fade | javispedro: Not sure what timezone you are in, but that can't be right. |
| 12:42.11 | X-Fade | javispedro: 2:18, yes. |
| 12:42.42 | javispedro | yep, 2:18, sorry :) |
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| 12:52.53 | itsnotabigtruck | lol Khertan_Work |
| 12:55.14 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway, so X-Fade: how bad would it be to enable the signer |
| 12:55.18 | itsnotabigtruck | not sure how that component works |
| 12:55.41 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Need to look at that. Haven't worked with it yet. |
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| 14:22.36 | ZogG_laptop | ם. |
| 14:22.43 | ZogG_laptop | \o |
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| 14:45.15 | alterego | Harmattan on a wall: http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/photos/DSC00485.JPG |
| 14:45.16 | alterego | :D |
| 14:45.24 | alterego | Anyway, I've got stuff to do ... |
| 14:45.27 | alterego | wanders off. |
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| 14:47.12 | Khertan_Work | wahou, there is many meego/ovistore warez site |
| 14:47.21 | Khertan_Work | i can found them only with the name of my apps |
| 14:47.22 | Khertan_Work | huhu |
| 14:47.31 | javispedro | alterego: looks kinda artistic =) |
| 14:50.42 | Khertan_Work | It s funny too see pirated version of application available for free in Apps4Meego :) |
| 14:51.22 | X-Fade | Well, then it is technically not really pirated :) |
| 14:51.40 | itsnotabigtruck | lol alterego |
| 14:51.51 | javispedro | X-Fade: gpl violating ;P |
| 14:52.14 | itsnotabigtruck | also Khertan_Work: which apps...a few people have uploaded the same app for free to afm and for $$$ to ovi |
| 14:52.17 | X-Fade | javispedro: Send them an email and ask for sources :) |
| 14:52.18 | itsnotabigtruck | namely thp |
| 14:52.31 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, nm, i misread what you said |
| 14:52.32 | Khertan_Work | itsnotabigtruck: KhtSimpleText |
| 14:52.43 | itsnotabigtruck | i thought you were saying there were pirated versions of ovi apps in appsformeego :p |
| 14:52.44 | Khertan_Work | itsnotabigtruck: yep i ve done the same |
| 14:53.28 | Khertan_Work | itsnotabigtruck: no i said that stupid hacker pirate apps available for free in apps4meego by buying them on ovi and sharing them :) |
| 14:53.37 | itsnotabigtruck | lol yeah |
| 14:53.40 | itsnotabigtruck | X-Fade: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Signer |
| 14:54.10 | itsnotabigtruck | there's the article on the obs signer...i'm not sure why the GPG setup instructions at the beginning are so complicated |
| 14:54.37 | itsnotabigtruck | it has you make a key with an RSA primary and RSA, DSA, and ElGamal secondaries and i can't imagine why one would want that |
| 14:54.48 | itsnotabigtruck | i'd imagine just an RSA primary is needed and that's it (for signing) |
| 14:54.52 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Yeah, setting up keys is not the problem. |
| 14:55.01 | Khertan_Work | itsnotabigtruck: now it could be funny to use inception to add some value to deb before sending a new version to this warez board |
| 14:55.02 | Khertan_Work | :) |
| 14:55.22 | itsnotabigtruck | Khertan_Work: some value? |
| 14:55.33 | Khertan_Work | :) you understand ;) |
| 14:55.37 | X-Fade | It is just that I need to setup a secure vm for it and configure the service. We don't want all the private keys to leak out of course. |
| 14:57.23 | itsnotabigtruck | has anyone figured out a way to get source packages out of qt creator |
| 14:57.28 | itsnotabigtruck | that's the #1 thing that's slowing afm down |
| 14:57.34 | pa | is there any user from norway in here, by the way? :) |
| 14:57.46 | itsnotabigtruck | everyone is using qt creator and it doesn't have a push button way to produce what obs needs |
| 14:57.58 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: dpkg-buildpackage -S was so easy :( |
| 14:58.05 | javispedro | there's a obs qt creator plugin.. |
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| 14:58.11 | itsnotabigtruck | it's easy for people using scratchbox and traditional packaging but those are a tiny minority |
| 14:58.22 | itsnotabigtruck | there is? |
| 14:58.23 | pa | yeah, i should start with it |
| 14:58.31 | pa | qtcreator is so limited |
| 14:58.34 | Khertan_Work | python setup.py sdist_maemo |
| 14:58.35 | Khertan_Work | .... :) |
| 14:58.37 | javispedro | :) |
| 14:58.44 | itsnotabigtruck | if there's a plugin or some other easy way to do it |
| 14:58.48 | itsnotabigtruck | why hasn't that been publicised to the max |
| 14:59.17 | Khertan_Work | love russian captcha ... oh did i enter those caracters using my latin keyboard |
| 14:59.18 | Khertan_Work | huhu |
| 15:00.49 | itsnotabigtruck | because that's never been mentioned here before and that's a main cause for the reluctance to use OBS and AFM |
| 15:00.49 | itsnotabigtruck | (dammit, i hate that moment where you know the perfect word for a situation but can't remember it) |
| 15:01.14 | pa | shouldnt we make a nice neat interface to package for harmattan? :) |
| 15:01.25 | pa | like a little pyqt tool or something like that |
| 15:01.41 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. we need to get emumaster into afm |
| 15:01.49 | itsnotabigtruck | and all the other popular open source ovi apps |
| 15:02.12 | X-Fade | itsnotabigtruck: Yeah, it is a bit of a learning curve. |
| 15:03.14 | Khertan_Work | pa: there is sdist_maemo for packaging python apps :) |
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| 15:03.25 | Khertan_Work | pa: but no gui |
| 15:03.39 | Khertan_Work | pa: base distutils well know of python devel |
| 15:03.50 | Khertan_Work | s/base/based on |
| 15:04.00 | pa | Khertan_Work, ah really? i was using pyside assistant for python, so far, but it packages in a wrong way |
| 15:04.17 | pa | i can try that one :) |
| 15:04.17 | pa | thanks! |
| 15:04.18 | Khertan_Work | pa: and pyside assitant isn't working on device :) |
| 15:04.30 | jkt | is there a system way of getting crash reports from my application? |
| 15:04.38 | Khertan_Work | pa: anyway it s maybe not perfect, but it s what i use ;) |
| 15:04.48 | jkt | I've read https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-3728?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:worklog-tabpanel, but it's rather spartan on further details |
| 15:04.51 | DocScrutinizer | Council meeting (IRC - #maemo-meeting) NOW |
| 15:04.59 | pa | i try to install it, is it in standard ubuntu universe? |
| 15:05.04 | Khertan_Work | pa: there is also pypackager for harmattan which can create source and deb on device |
| 15:05.34 | Khertan_Work | pa: no, not in ubuntu ;) it s in my home obs or github |
| 15:05.44 | pa | ah :) |
| 15:05.49 | pa | ok so i google for it |
| 15:06.09 | Khertan_Work | pa: http://khertan.net/PyPackager |
| 15:06.18 | Khertan_Work | pa: http://khertan.net/sdist_maemo |
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| 15:10.34 | sledges | hello |
| 15:11.08 | sledges | anyone else suffering with PR1.2's Gtalk Video Plugin dropouts?.. |
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| 15:13.13 | trx | Does anyone have any idea when will appsformeego accept applications with libraries(non-standard)? how do people distribute their applications atm? |
| 15:15.03 | Khertan_Work | trx: idea create an installer to install external dependancies ? :) |
| 15:16.06 | trx | thats a good idea, but i dont know if people will like that |
| 15:18.19 | jkt | so I'm getting this message when trying to install libc6-dbg (which is a pre-requisite of valgrind) on my N950 PR1.2: depends libc6 (= 2.10-0maemo18.1+0m6) but 2.10-0maemo20+0m7 is to be installed |
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| 15:18.28 | jkt | what shall I do to fix that? |
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| 15:23.32 | itsnotabigtruck | trx: the normal procedure is to slam everything into one package |
| 15:23.35 | itsnotabigtruck | not pretty, i know |
| 15:23.55 | itsnotabigtruck | it's even less pretty because AfM not only restricts your dependencies, but your buildependencies |
| 15:24.17 | itsnotabigtruck | so you can't do any neat tricks like e.g. build-depending on the packages you need, and copying their files from the system into your package during the build |
| 15:24.27 | itsnotabigtruck | it's a severe problem |
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| 15:30.06 | trx | yeah |
| 15:31.06 | trx | i have two small wrapper libraries that i use for all my applications |
| 15:31.56 | trx | so basically i was developing apps for nothing now |
| 15:32.12 | trx | because i didnt expect a problem like this :) |
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| 16:59.30 | pa | will it be possible to have standard qt applications in meltemi? |
| 17:00.26 | pa | like c++ widget based applications i mean |
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| 17:03.18 | Elleo | pa: as far as I'm aware no real details exist on meltemi yet |
| 17:04.01 | pa | some call it maemo 7 |
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| 17:15.15 | jonni | just got me one N9 which didn't charge (and collegue was planning to throw it in waste basket), so I used opened it up and used external charger to charge, now it boots up. Gave it a wiggle on micro usb port and it charges just sometimes, so looks like dry joint. Next I'll have to boot up my soldering iron to see if I can fix the usb connector so I get me a free N9 :) |
| 17:16.44 | pa | cool prince of persia source code is available |
| 17:16.52 | pa | lets compile it for harmattan ;) |
| 17:18.08 | SpeedEvil | jonni: yay! |
| 17:20.51 | javispedro | pa: are you sure? |
| 17:21.06 | pa | yes, but it is in assembly, apparently |
| 17:21.16 | javispedro | pa: last I heard they were trying to bring in the heavy machinery because the disks were unreadable |
| 17:21.25 | pa | https://github.com/jmechner/Prince-of-Persia-Apple-II |
| 17:22.12 | javispedro | that was fast |
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| 17:51.37 | DocScrutinizer | jonni: OMG, so not only cellmo problems but even USB is same like on N900 now? |
| 17:52.21 | jonni | well he said that he abused the port by dropping the device etc |
| 17:52.37 | DocScrutinizer | (cellmo) today user macer reported same old "noSIM" problem |
| 17:53.24 | DocScrutinizer | shadowJK had 2 (two) devices with same problem |
| 17:53.50 | DocScrutinizer | (n900 with "no SIM" that is) |
| 17:57.02 | DocScrutinizer | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html at very bottom |
| 17:58.04 | javispedro | looooogs baaaaaad |
| 17:58.16 | DocScrutinizer | yeah! |
| 17:58.20 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
| 18:03.04 | *** mode/#harmattan [+o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 18:03.51 | *** topic/#harmattan by DocScrutinizer -> A place for harmattan device and development discussions | Customers help customers on #N9, hurry and you're the senior member | Please stay on topic and no NDA stuff here | Developers : http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | ~aegis-no-thanks | LATEST ~update |
| 18:03.58 | *** mode/#harmattan [-o DocScrutinizer] by ChanServ |
| 18:07.03 | ZogG_laptop | hmm read how N9 NFC cheap is one of the best but doesn't support half things coz it has no SWP |
| 18:07.11 | ZogG_laptop | anyone heard about it? |
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| 18:09.05 | SpeedEvil | yes |
| 18:09.35 | ZogG_laptop | damn |
| 18:09.51 | ZogG_laptop | i don't get why to put front camera nfc and led and just not support them. |
| 18:10.20 | SpeedEvil | Because n9 was designed to be a mass market device |
| 18:10.32 | SpeedEvil | but development stopped about halfway through |
| 18:10.35 | DocScrutinizer | if IRC gets logged (and published) anyway, I prefer to offer the service to all channel users |
| 18:10.43 | ZogG_laptop | SpeedEvil: and? why they didn't finish with just connecting it |
| 18:10.52 | SpeedEvil | Development costs money |
| 18:11.15 | ZogG_laptop | SpeedEvil: isn't it something physical? |
| 18:11.25 | SpeedEvil | Oh - the SWP is |
| 18:11.33 | SpeedEvil | that's a wire to the SIM socket |
| 18:11.50 | SpeedEvil | - but it may require other things in the phone, or require the chipset to change for NFC, for example. |
| 18:13.16 | ZogG_laptop | at least they could connect it and maybe one day community would finish the job |
| 18:15.17 | ZogG_laptop | it makes me sad |
| 18:15.30 | ZogG_laptop | SpeedEvil: i would prefer no cheap but less price |
| 18:15.48 | ZogG_laptop | it hurts to know you have one of the finest cheap you can't use |
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| 18:19.36 | itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: "no, I dunno what'S a bot and what's a real human user." that's why you have a link to the output of one of those bots in the /topic you just set? |
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| 18:52.58 | DocScrutinizer | itsnotabigtruck: you're really obtuse. Me knowing of one bot doesn't imply I can tell apart bots from real users. For you though it's even hard to tell apart proper logic from BS |
| 18:54.19 | DocScrutinizer | is that because your nickname? (to give you a taste of your own weird way of argumentation) |
| 18:54.56 | itsnotabigtruck | DocScrutinizer: your claim is that you don't know what's a bot, you don't know what logs, it's not your business |
| 18:55.07 | itsnotabigtruck | your claim is hogwash |
| 18:55.16 | DocScrutinizer | your BS is just annoying |
| 18:55.31 | DocScrutinizer | my claim is not what you say my claim would be |
| 18:55.31 | itsnotabigtruck | you know precisely what's going on but instead of being straightforward, you'd rather play word games |
| 18:55.47 | DocScrutinizer | no, you play BS trolling game |
| 18:56.13 | itsnotabigtruck | BS trolling game? everything you do is one big trolling game |
| 18:56.18 | itsnotabigtruck | all you do is denigrate, not create |
| 18:56.41 | DocScrutinizer | well, I'll go on with this in a moment |
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| 18:57.21 | DocScrutinizer | you started this game, I'll end it, either way that's required to do |
| 18:57.45 | ab | guys, stop pretending you are Aegis management team. |
| 18:58.07 | DocScrutinizer | how TF is aegis coming in here? |
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| 19:06.47 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, not sure how that's pertinent... |
| 19:06.49 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway. |
| 19:06.53 | itsnotabigtruck | i better get going |
| 19:07.38 | itsnotabigtruck | does qt creator let you "Publish for Fremantle Extras-devel Free Repository" for harmattan apps? |
| 19:07.39 | DocScrutinizer | a) this channel is logged, everybody watching topic knows that - and it's always been. b) it's not been me who added the first logbot here, though that's completely irrelevant c) I'm not taking shit for managing channels in a way some fool suddenly thinks is not the right one |
| 19:07.48 | itsnotabigtruck | b/c i think you can generate debian source packages there |
| 19:07.59 | itsnotabigtruck | just select the option to not upload |
| 19:08.36 | DocScrutinizer | and d) stating lies about me is something I'll not tolerate |
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| 19:10.47 | itsnotabigtruck | just because something's been one way doesn't mean that's the way it should stay, i'll leave it at that |
| 19:11.20 | faenil | guys I think my mind is just sleeping, but why am I getting "module is not installed" after I register the module with qmlRegisterType? |
| 19:11.23 | faenil | I'm going nuts |
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| 20:14.19 | denism1 | ~inception |
| 20:14.20 | infobot | <a href="http://inception.davepedu.com/">BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH</a>, or how you own your phone (see #inception): https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/ |
| 20:15.59 | denism1 | hi, does anybody know - is it possible to download inception 0.1.0 (previous version) source somewhere? |
| 20:19.06 | petteri | https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/download/inception_0.1.tar.gz |
| 20:21.01 | denism1 | petteri: thank you very much! I have tried 0.1.0.tar.gz |
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| 20:34.01 | piggz | MohammadAG: just installed sociality on my n9, good stuff! .... i see you suffer the same webcontrol bug i do, it being difficult to enter passwords becuase focus stays on the username field |
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| 20:35.54 | MohammadAG | piggz: I intend to replace it with an internally controlled webpage |
| 20:35.55 | MohammadAG | Once I understand web shit |
| 20:35.55 | MohammadAG | Which will probably take time |
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| 20:37.37 | MohammadAG | If ever |
| 20:38.55 | piggz | i got a negative review on the store because someone couldnt enter their password...shame as there is nothing i can do about it :) |
| 20:39.03 | faenil | MohammadAG, qmlregistertype and then I get "module is not installed" |
| 20:39.04 | faenil | any idea? |
| 20:44.01 | rzr | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/04/17/2016249/operators-nokia-would-sell-better-with-android |
| 20:47.05 | MohammadAG | faenil: I don't use QML |
| 20:47.13 | MohammadAG | Well barely used it once |
| 20:48.39 | faenil | mmm ok... |
| 20:49.10 | lildeimos | faenil: maybe you need QML_DECLARE_TYPE(you_class) at bottom of .h |
| 20:51.05 | faenil | lildeimos: it works on an Android tablet, it doesn't work on another... :( |
| 20:51.13 | faenil | I mean the software atm |
| 20:52.38 | lildeimos | can't help more then this sorry |
| 20:53.02 | faenil | np thanks ;)( |
| 20:53.15 | faenil | it's just so strange, same qt port, it works on a tablet, doesn't work on another |
| 20:55.31 | lildeimos | I used that on all platforms and worked everywhere. Also on android |
| 20:56.32 | faenil | lildeimos, yeah it works on the Transformer too, it doesn't work on the Archos :( |
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| 22:17.23 | mankeli | http://electrontu.be/harmattan/iperf_2.0.4-5_armel.deb i just compiled iperf for harmattan, if someone wants to test their data connection speed :-) |
| 22:18.04 | mankeli | basic sb job, so no suprises to devs |
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| 23:13.11 | rzr | mankeli, did build it months ago : https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=iperf&project=home%3Arzr%3Adebian |
| 23:13.28 | rzr | iperf_2.0.5-2.1. |
| 23:14.02 | mankeli | okay, nice :) |
| 23:14.58 | rzr | are u using fuse ? |
| 23:15.26 | mankeli | yeah, for sshfs |
| 23:17.12 | mankeli | in electrontu.be/harmattan/ there's also fuse-utils package which iirc was missing on your repo |
| 23:18.01 | rzr | i never managed to use sshfs |
| 23:18.17 | rzr | i will try again |
| 23:18.33 | mankeli | how so? |
| 23:19.05 | mankeli | it would be nice if you would add fuse-utils to your repo too, then one could just install it by saying apt-get install sshfs :) |
| 23:19.27 | rzr | let me check |
| 23:19.46 | rzr | i think it's there already |
| 23:21.25 | rzr | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=sshfs-fuse&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan |
| 23:21.56 | rzr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.58 | rzr | humm |
| 23:23.02 | rzr | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/f/fuse/ |
| 23:23.03 | rzr | we should not import that package |
| 23:24.53 | mankeli | that my fuse-utils is compiled from sources found on pr1.2 dvd |
| 23:25.32 | mankeli | for some reason nokia has new libfuse2 binary package, and sources for fuse-utils but no binary for that :-p |
| 23:27.08 | mankeli | and if one wants sshfs on pr1.2, it's either self-compiled fuse-utils and sshfs from your repo, or libfuse2 downgrade - which sounds very scary :D |
| 23:31.40 | rzr | i have fuse_2.8.6maemo5+0m7 |
| 23:32.04 | rzr | this is from pr1.2 fw but it looks that it's not on obs |
| 23:33.27 | mankeli | obs? |
| 23:33.27 | rzr | http://molly.corsac.net/~corsac/n9/sources-pr1.2/fuse_2.8.6maemo5+0m7.dsc |
| 23:33.42 | rzr | this source : http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/f/fuse/ |
| 23:33.49 | rzr | obs = builder |
| 23:34.28 | mankeli | aah. |
| 23:37.13 | mankeli | well i don't know anything about obs. sorry |
| 23:38.02 | mankeli | i heard something that harmattan-dev is pretty outdated, but at least in scratchbox you can just compile that pr1.2 fuse without problems |
| 23:41.38 | mankeli | and btw, what's the difference between "harmattan" and "MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard" repos? |
| 23:41.53 | mankeli | i mean, why not just one? |
| 23:43.07 | rzr | in my project ? |
| 23:43.13 | rzr | i need to explain this |
| 23:43.43 | rzr | 1st one is using nokia setup |
| 23:44.04 | rzr | 2d one is using extra repos (such as debian imports) |
| 23:46.56 | *** join/#harmattan DrGrov (~C.J@a91-153-77-41.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 23:48.26 | rzr | X-Fade, can you confirm about that ? harmattan-dev is pretty outdated, ? |
| 23:48.42 | rzr | mankeli, btw pr1.3 will screw it all probally :-) |
| 23:51.54 | mankeli | so "harmattan" only has nokia stuff in dependencies and that other one has more |
| 23:51.58 | mankeli | ok |
| 23:52.25 | mankeli | why do you think so? |
| 23:52.35 | mankeli | that pr1.3 will screw it all |
| 23:52.54 | mankeli | and in what way exactly |
| 23:53.19 | rzr | it will ship updated packages that may conflict with mine built on previous fw |
| 23:56.38 | DrGrov | PR 1.3? Is there such candy coming out? :) |
| 23:58.07 | mankeli | rzr: i'm hoping that they would also update their repos with latest packages since pr1.3 is probably the last update :-) |
| 23:58.54 | *** join/#harmattan Arie (~Arie@c-69-255-229-189.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.02 | rzr | what makes you think this will be the last one |
| 23:59.34 | rzr | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/04/these-steps-or-nokia-is-no-more-the-way-back-to-profits-and-growth.html# |
| 23:59.39 | rzr | :) |
| 23:59.51 | Arie | rzr: Nokia is finished |
