| 00:25.17 | GeneralAntilles | rm_you, save a backup? |
| 00:32.50 | rm_you | GeneralAntilles: i've backed up everything imaginable |
| 00:32.54 | rm_you | at least, that i can imagine |
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| 00:52.33 | the-boss` | [APPS] package togglePSM was ACCEPTED for promotion to Apps |
| 00:53.20 | Arie | the-boss: isn't it already in ovi store? |
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| 01:06.12 | itsnotabigtruck | ooh, appsformeego has an irc bot now? |
| 01:07.06 | Arie | it does? |
| 01:08.22 | itsnotabigtruck | Arie: i'm assuming that's what that is |
| 01:08.30 | itsnotabigtruck | except, i don't see togglePSM anywhere in apps for meego |
| 01:08.38 | Arie | its in the ovi store |
| 01:08.43 | Arie | i downloaded it from thete |
| 01:08.45 | Arie | there* |
| 01:08.48 | itsnotabigtruck | BOSS is the script that moves packages around in afm |
| 01:08.58 | itsnotabigtruck | well, those aren't mutually exclusive, you know |
| 01:09.09 | itsnotabigtruck | though nokia appears to throw a fit if you link to afm from the page linked from the ovi entry |
| 01:09.20 | Elleo | Arie: when the-boss` is talking about it being accepted for apps its talking about apps.formeego.org |
| 01:09.40 | Elleo | yeah, I had to write a crappy little web page just for Ovi to get around that :/ |
| 01:10.03 | Arie | Elleo: if it's accepted in ovi store it will be accepted at apps for meego |
| 01:10.14 | Elleo | Arie: no, they're two completely separate processes |
| 01:10.17 | Arie | Elleo: are you togglepsm's author? |
| 01:10.21 | Elleo | Arie: apps for meego has a community QA process |
| 01:10.54 | itsnotabigtruck | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=togglePSM&project=MeeGo%3A1.2%3AHarmattan%3AApps |
| 01:10.55 | Elleo | Arie: so when the-boss` talks about it being accepted it means the latest version has received 6 QA reviews |
| 01:10.57 | itsnotabigtruck | ah, there it is |
| 01:11.03 | Elleo | Arie: nope |
| 01:11.21 | Arie | Elleo: what is your app? |
| 01:11.49 | Elleo | Arie: a statusnet client and a silly little game where you throw rocks at seagulls are the only two I've currently published to apps for meego |
| 01:12.00 | Elleo | they're still in the testing queue awaiting more QAs |
| 01:12.02 | Arie | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.14 | Elleo | http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Network/statusnet-meego/ and http://apps.formeego.org/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Games/seagullstrike/ |
| 01:14.11 | itsnotabigtruck | Elleo: ah, so the statusnet client is yours |
| 01:14.16 | Arie | yup |
| 01:14.20 | itsnotabigtruck | btw does it integrate with accounts |
| 01:14.48 | Elleo | itsnotabigtruck: nope, accounts seemed a massive hassle for no real gain |
| 01:15.13 | itsnotabigtruck | Elleo: it's probably less hassle than you think, if you can get over the terribad documentation |
| 01:15.20 | Elleo | heh |
| 01:15.22 | itsnotabigtruck | does identica/statusnet use oauth? |
| 01:15.26 | Elleo | yeah |
| 01:15.28 | Elleo | well |
| 01:15.38 | Elleo | that was one sticking point, sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't |
| 01:15.44 | Elleo | if you're connecting to identi.ca it does |
| 01:15.49 | itsnotabigtruck | because it's actually pretty simple to make an account plugin for oauth |
| 01:15.50 | Elleo | if you're connecting to other statusnet services it doesn't |
| 01:15.53 | itsnotabigtruck | that doesn't require any special settings |
| 01:16.17 | itsnotabigtruck | though...the fact that there can be many statusnet services, that probably makes everything complicated :( |
| 01:16.30 | Elleo | yeah, that's why it only does oauth for identi.ca |
| 01:16.34 | itsnotabigtruck | in any case, i'd like to see more 3rd party stuff use accounts |
| 01:16.48 | Elleo | since I can't really go and register keys for every single statusnet instance in the world |
| 01:16.56 | itsnotabigtruck | also, for oauth, signon provides support for that |
| 01:17.02 | itsnotabigtruck | which you can use independently of accounts |
| 01:17.23 | Elleo | I based my client around identicurse's codebase which already had oauth stuff integrated |
| 01:17.25 | itsnotabigtruck | oh right, consumer keys :/ |
| 01:17.37 | itsnotabigtruck | which is an extreme misfeature of oauth |
| 01:17.41 | itsnotabigtruck | a completely idiotic idea |
| 01:17.43 | Elleo | yeah |
| 01:17.58 | itsnotabigtruck | does statusnet actually do consumer keys |
| 01:18.05 | itsnotabigtruck | not all oauth implementations do |
| 01:18.07 | Elleo | we should add an extension to the oauth protocol for free software projects to implement that just hands out keys on request |
| 01:18.14 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. apparently google takes anonymous/anonymous as consumer credentials |
| 01:18.29 | Elleo | interesting |
| 01:18.39 | Elleo | but yeah, identi.ca has consumer keys |
| 01:18.41 | itsnotabigtruck | don't think that's really necessary, they can just be fixed |
| 01:19.09 | Elleo | yeah, hadn't thought of just fixing them |
| 01:19.22 | Elleo | although it can be nice to be able to identify clients some how too |
| 01:19.50 | itsnotabigtruck | except that identifying clients is totally futile |
| 01:20.04 | itsnotabigtruck | except maybe if all clients are websites, which is what oauth was originally intended for |
| 01:20.09 | itsnotabigtruck | that's why it has the consumer key bs in the first place |
| 01:20.18 | Elleo | I don't mean from any sort of security point of view |
| 01:20.24 | Elleo | just for statistic tracking |
| 01:20.33 | Elleo | knowing how many users are using which clients, etc. |
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| 01:24.08 | itsnotabigtruck | anyway...if statusnet always allows non-oauth login and oauth login is impractical, might as well just always go with non-oauth |
| 01:24.46 | itsnotabigtruck | that definitely however means that an account plugin would be hard work :( |
| 01:25.15 | Elleo | yeah, I ended up allowing oauth for identi.ca and non-oauth for any other service |
| 01:25.24 | Elleo | which means I can at least see how many users are using it on identi.ca |
| 01:25.43 | Elleo | which isn't trackable via the other auth method |
| 01:26.00 | Elleo | since they don't take any client details that way |
| 01:51.00 | rm_you | lol i'm a nub |
| 01:51.13 | rm_you | need to figure out how to set my root password on PR1.2 |
| 01:52.01 | itsnotabigtruck | rm_you: devel-su -c passwd |
| 01:52.37 | rm_you | err, right |
| 01:52.44 | rm_you | but i need to set it FIRST so i can actually run devel-su |
| 01:53.20 | rm_you | unless there is a wellknown default that i don't know :P |
| 01:54.49 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, rootme |
| 01:54.51 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 01:55.27 | rm_you | :P |
| 02:00.55 | itsnotabigtruck | rm_you: also while you're at it, get inception |
| 02:03.14 | Arie | rm_you: get inception and meecast |
| 02:06.42 | beford | and my games |
| 02:06.44 | beford | all of them |
| 02:07.16 | beford | $_$ |
| 02:07.22 | Arie | bedford: lol |
| 02:12.03 | itsnotabigtruck | beford: which are your games? |
| 02:12.52 | itsnotabigtruck | it's a shame there aren't very many n9 games, and even fewer that are high quality...i'd like to see higher production values on everything in general |
| 02:13.40 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: i agree |
| 02:15.05 | itsnotabigtruck | ugh, why can't they just ban lumiaman (on tmo) already |
| 02:15.13 | itsnotabigtruck | nothing but trolling all the time |
| 02:15.55 | itsnotabigtruck | normally i'm not too big on bans but this guy is going out of his way to ask for it |
| 02:15.58 | itsnotabigtruck | shrugs |
| 02:17.57 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: he's on my ignore list |
| 02:18.14 | Arie | i only see his posts when someone else quotes ir |
| 02:18.17 | Arie | it* |
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| 02:20.08 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: him and chuck norris both, best decision ever, everyone else seems pro N9 now or just friendly, i think estel may be next if he doesn't get elected to the council |
| 02:20.27 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 02:21.00 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: he's too extreme if you ask me, he means well, but he's too agressive/hostile |
| 02:21.41 | itsnotabigtruck | well, filtering out anyone who isn't 'pro N9' isn't a great idea, but yeah, a lot of people keep kicking up dirt over meaningless stuff |
| 02:22.27 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm looking at this 500 gig laptop hdd i have here - it's amazing how much data can be stored in such a small space |
| 02:23.15 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: everyone outside of lumiaman and chuck norris aren't trolling, they are genuinely bringing problems they really have to the table and I'm appreciative of that, even if it's pro apple, just not when it's constant trolling or causing problems |
| 02:26.32 | itsnotabigtruck | rm_you: did you get incepted? |
| 02:28.24 | Tronic | How about 64 GB MicroSD? :) |
| 02:28.49 | Tronic | I bet that you could fit more than a hundred of those in the space that the laptop HDD occupies :) |
| 02:29.45 | itsnotabigtruck | Tronic: true...but the laptop hdd's a distinct object |
| 02:30.21 | itsnotabigtruck | and a laptop hdd is probably the smallest storage device with a huge capacity |
| 02:30.59 | itsnotabigtruck | whereas flash isn't quite up to "huge" levels (yet), certainly not at realistic prices |
| 02:31.05 | Tronic | You can also get 2 TB SD cards. |
| 02:31.24 | Tronic | (not micro, ofc) |
| 02:31.36 | itsnotabigtruck | Tronic: that...doesn't sound right |
| 02:31.41 | itsnotabigtruck | are you sure that isn't a theoretical maximum |
| 02:31.47 | itsnotabigtruck | it looks like that's the upper limit on sdxc |
| 02:31.51 | itsnotabigtruck | not a card anyone's shipping |
| 02:32.03 | Tronic | Hmm, not sure if they are just concept demo. |
| 02:32.57 | itsnotabigtruck | it looks like 128 GB is the highest commercialized size |
| 02:33.02 | itsnotabigtruck | a far cry from 2 TB |
| 02:33.56 | itsnotabigtruck | and going by google you probably saw the headlines about sdxc |
| 02:33.59 | Termana | Tronic, I think you just thinking of the standard's maximum that was announced in 2009. SDXC's maximum is 2TB, but there is no cards that can actually reach that limit yet (afaik) |
| 02:34.04 | Termana | you're* |
| 02:34.22 | itsnotabigtruck | also, sdxc is a farce |
| 02:34.43 | itsnotabigtruck | it's exactly the same as sdhc, except you're not allowed to call it sdhc if it's above a certain capacity |
| 02:35.06 | itsnotabigtruck | also you're supposed to format sdxc cards as exfat, which is a new proprietary microsoft filesystem that doesn't work on anything but windows |
| 02:35.39 | itsnotabigtruck | *apparently osx 10.6.5+ has it too |
| 02:36.28 | Termana | ex-FAT formatted drive is best FAT formatted drive |
| 02:36.35 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 03:12.02 | itsnotabigtruck | any tmobile [us] users here: check this out http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1197297#post1197297 |
| 03:12.10 | itsnotabigtruck | if you weren't already in the ipv6 beta, you can now enable ipv6 without having to sign up |
| 03:12.27 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm not on tmobile though so it's moot for me :( |
| 03:13.23 | Arie | for the N9? |
| 03:14.19 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: for the N9? |
| 03:15.25 | itsnotabigtruck | Arie: yeah |
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| 03:15.33 | itsnotabigtruck | you can enable ipv6 through the dev mode screen |
| 03:15.49 | itsnotabigtruck | that is, enable ipv6 on the N9, not select ipv6 on the tmobile network |
| 03:15.56 | itsnotabigtruck | you do that by setting your apn to the one in the post |
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| 03:17.48 | MFaro-Tusino | who is good with dbus? |
| 03:18.02 | Arie | epc.tmobile.com is set by default |
| 03:21.57 | MFaro-Tusino | anyone? |
| 03:22.31 | Arie | MFaro-Tusino: no clue here |
| 03:22.41 | MFaro-Tusino | haha thanks |
| 03:23.08 | MFaro-Tusino | I have an idea to create a "pocket-to-picture" style app for N9/50 |
| 03:23.39 | Arie | MFaro-Tusino: talk to wolke on tmo |
| 03:23.56 | MFaro-Tusino | is he a dubs expert? |
| 03:24.14 | Arie | no, but he is working on something similar |
| 03:24.19 | Arie | i think |
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| 03:41.16 | Elleo | has anyone done anything with qwebkit and ssl page? it seems that by default it doesn't try accessing them, but I can't work out why |
| 03:41.40 | Elleo | I've tried implementing a custom qnetworkaccessmanager derived class that captures sslError() signals, but none seem to be being reported |
| 03:42.24 | Elleo | qwebview rather |
| 03:42.47 | itsnotabigtruck | is this for oauth? |
| 03:42.49 | itsnotabigtruck | use signon! |
| 03:42.56 | Elleo | nah, this is something completely separate |
| 03:54.15 | Elleo | oh, my mistake ssl actually seems to be working fine; it's something else that's causing it to go funny |
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| 04:30.53 | rm_you | hrm |
| 04:31.31 | beford | hi |
| 04:31.40 | rm_you | since flashing to PR1.2beta on N950, when i try to play my video files (which worked perfectly on the old firmware) now say "You can't play these types of files on this device" |
| 04:31.40 | beford | did that sms backup thing work rm_you ? |
| 04:31.46 | rm_you | beford: yes, excellently |
| 04:31.51 | rm_you | everything is back good as new |
| 04:32.01 | rm_you | thanks for the pointer! |
| 04:32.05 | beford | rm_you, known issue I believe there is a bug about it on harmattan bugzilla |
| 04:32.11 | rm_you | :( |
| 04:32.26 | rm_you | it's funny because it STARTS PLAYING |
| 04:32.29 | beford | jonni was talking about it, its something about the movie profile, cant remember |
| 04:32.31 | rm_you | and then decides i can't play them |
| 04:32.32 | rm_you | lol |
| 04:32.41 | rm_you | annoying |
| 04:32.45 | rm_you | i encoded all of these myself |
| 04:32.53 | rm_you | with a profile i developed specifically for N950 |
| 04:33.01 | beford | yea, if you try to skip some part of it then you get the message too |
| 04:33.09 | rm_you | (video encoding has always been a hobby of mine -- pushing the device as far as it can go) |
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| 04:35.30 | rm_you | hrm |
| 04:35.37 | rm_you | found ONE thread on some random forum |
| 04:35.51 | rm_you | someone said it might be a tracker problem and just... wait for it to index? |
| 04:35.52 | rm_you | i guess |
| 04:35.55 | beford | http://forum.meego.com/archive/index.php/t-5748.html |
| 04:36.19 | beford | it was npm and jonni talking |
| 04:36.36 | CreamyG31337 | meh just force reindex |
| 04:36.36 | rm_you | ah my hit was somewhere else |
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| 04:38.49 | itsnotabigtruck | rm_you: did you get incepted? (not related to your video trouble) |
| 04:39.11 | itsnotabigtruck | also, do any of you know what sort of measures are required to get ipv6 over cell data working |
| 04:39.20 | rm_you | itsnotabigtruck: lolwut? :P |
| 04:39.32 | itsnotabigtruck | after having installed ipv6enabler |
| 04:39.52 | itsnotabigtruck | rm_you: https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/ |
| 04:43.20 | dm8tbr | itsnotabigtruck: for that there would need to be a ipv6 capable PDP context by your operator |
| 04:43.34 | rm_you | lol interesting |
| 04:44.04 | itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: my operator doesn't have that, but t-mobile us does |
| 04:44.18 | itsnotabigtruck | and they just rolled out ipv6 on their main apn |
| 04:44.56 | rm_you | oh, cool |
| 04:44.58 | dm8tbr | itsnotabigtruck: well you'd need a tmo sim then |
| 04:44.59 | rm_you | i'm tmo usa |
| 04:45.30 | dm8tbr | btw: you don't need ipv6enabler, I never did. just having a sip account seemed to do the magic ;) |
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| 04:46.18 | itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: it's not for me |
| 04:46.28 | itsnotabigtruck | the point is that ipv6enabler isn't enough |
| 04:46.48 | itsnotabigtruck | and the question is, what needs to be done to make it enough |
| 04:47.15 | itsnotabigtruck | all the existing posts are about the n900 |
| 04:47.21 | itsnotabigtruck | probably because there's a lot of tmo us n900 user |
| 04:47.43 | Arie | itsnotabigtruck: pray to the nokia gods for help? |
| 04:47.45 | itsnotabigtruck | *users and not many us n9 users, let alone tmo us n9 users |
| 04:48.16 | itsnotabigtruck | esp because unlike the n900, the n9 supports 3g on the death star |
| 04:49.29 | dm8tbr | itsnotabigtruck: given the lack of documentation of the innards that might not be easy to find out. it might simply not have been implemented |
| 04:49.40 | dm8tbr | e.g. if ipv6 was only tested over wifi |
| 04:49.55 | itsnotabigtruck | heh |
| 04:50.07 | itsnotabigtruck | well, it's been done [unofficially] on n900, that procedure might be able to be adapted |
| 04:50.38 | dm8tbr | care to point to that, as long as it's not a low SNR forum thread? |
| 04:50.40 | itsnotabigtruck | it definitely works on wifi, i tried it out on my uni's ipv6 test wap |
| 04:50.54 | itsnotabigtruck | it's a low snr forum thread |
| 04:50.55 | itsnotabigtruck | :p |
| 04:51.01 | dm8tbr | then I won't bother |
| 04:51.21 | itsnotabigtruck | oh yeah, there's this http://n900-ipv6.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 04:51.24 | dm8tbr | forums are utterly useless for technical discussion |
| 04:51.43 | itsnotabigtruck | also in this day and age, nokia's minimal level of support for ipv6 is totally unacceptable |
| 04:51.54 | itsnotabigtruck | that applies to any other vendor not fully backing it also |
| 04:52.33 | itsnotabigtruck | the entire industry has basically said "screw that, that won't make us money" |
| 04:54.43 | rm_you | hrm well, mplayer as always works |
| 04:54.54 | rm_you | so whatever, i'll use kmplayer and mplayer :P |
| 04:55.00 | rm_you | plays even better than ever before |
| 04:55.03 | dm8tbr | symbian had excellent ipv6 support, years ahead of its time ;) |
| 04:56.06 | dm8tbr | itsnotabigtruck: thank the operators for that, handsets have been available from e.g. nokia for long. |
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| 04:57.49 | Arie | ok |
| 04:58.38 | itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: true, nokia's hardly the worst offender |
| 04:59.04 | itsnotabigtruck | but they aren't perfect, and most other players in and out of the mobile industry aren't even trying |
| 04:59.20 | itsnotabigtruck | MS is one of the only software companies that's sort-of-serious about ipv6 at all |
| 04:59.25 | itsnotabigtruck | and even then, that's only the windows side |
| 04:59.38 | itsnotabigtruck | other parts of the company CBA to do ipv6 either |
| 04:59.40 | RST38h | moo, rm_you |
| 04:59.44 | rm_you | yo RST38h |
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| 04:59.50 | rm_you | was just about to head to bed |
| 04:59.51 | dm8tbr | that's why they implemented IPsec with the highly secure 'null' encryption? |
| 04:59.57 | RST38h | how is suffering tonight? |
| 04:59.58 | rm_you | RST38h: how goes it? |
| 05:00.12 | rm_you | heh, finally updated N950 from beta1 firmware :P |
| 05:00.13 | RST38h | more or less, trying to do 4-5 things at once, going nuts |
| 05:00.13 | itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: hm? windows supports lots of encryption algorithms for ipsec...besides, ipsec is totally ancillary to ipv6 |
| 05:00.16 | rm_you | straight to PR1.2beta |
| 05:00.26 | RST38h | rm_you: sounds like 1.3 is coming |
| 05:00.30 | rm_you | lol |
| 05:00.35 | rm_you | well, this is nice |
| 05:00.36 | itsnotabigtruck | windows' ipsec support sucks in many ways, but not being able to encrypt things with it isn't one of them |
| 05:00.38 | rm_you | i have actual APPS |
| 05:00.43 | dm8tbr | itsnotabigtruck: last time I cared to check ipsec on ipv6 support was abysmal on windows |
| 05:00.48 | rm_you | spotify / 4square at least |
| 05:00.51 | RST38h | rm_you: or they were just patching bigtruck's favorite hole... |
| 05:00.54 | itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: when did you check |
| 05:00.56 | rm_you | lol |
| 05:01.11 | itsnotabigtruck | vista made a huge step forward with ipv6 support |
| 05:01.23 | beford | they rewrote the network stack, didnt? |
| 05:01.31 | rm_you | anyway i gotta go to bed |
| 05:01.35 | dm8tbr | mhm, possible that this was still XP then |
| 05:01.38 | rm_you | waves at RST38h |
| 05:01.38 | itsnotabigtruck | you can use ipv6 on xp, and it works, though it isn't very smooth |
| 05:01.45 | rm_you | good luck |
| 05:01.54 | itsnotabigtruck | but vista was the first ver with real ipv6 support |
| 05:01.56 | itsnotabigtruck | later rm_you |
| 05:01.58 | dm8tbr | I never really looked back on windows |
| 05:02.05 | rm_you | thanks for the help guys :P |
| 05:02.08 | rm_you | sleeps |
| 05:02.14 | RST38h | g'night |
| 05:02.39 | itsnotabigtruck | dm8tbr: which is typical...most of the loudest critics of windows have no idea what it does and doesn't do :p (not singling you out or anything) |
| 05:02.56 | itsnotabigtruck | that said, it does have an awful lot of problems...at least it has games though :) |
| 05:03.34 | dm8tbr | shrugs |
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| 05:04.03 | dm8tbr | I'd suggest to investigate the gprs subsystem if they added dualstack pdp support |
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| 05:18.29 | the-boss` | [APPS] package qspot was ACCEPTED for promotion to Apps |
| 05:18.35 | the-boss` | [APPS] package fm4app was ACCEPTED for promotion to Apps |
| 05:19.35 | itsnotabigtruck | hm, lots of packages promoted today |
| 05:25.04 | susundberg | (sorry for double posting, i just red N9 topic, and decided to change channel:) Is this bug (with N9 PR1.2): when screen is locked and alarm goes on -> the screen ends up being unlocked |
| 05:25.37 | itsnotabigtruck | it looks like ipv6enabler is *supposed* to take care of everything |
| 05:25.45 | itsnotabigtruck | strange that it didn't work |
| 05:27.24 | CreamyG31337 | today this guy at work made me come to his house and lie to his wife and say his new motorbike was mine |
| 05:27.41 | ajalkane | lol, now you gots a motorbike then |
| 05:27.52 | CreamyG31337 | yeah no doubt |
| 05:27.57 | Arie | win |
| 05:28.07 | itsnotabigtruck | why would you agree to that |
| 05:28.09 | CreamyG31337 | why does anyone need two motorbikes anyways? |
| 05:28.15 | Arie | haha |
| 05:28.32 | CreamyG31337 | i thought he was serious and said no, but this other guy thought he was joking and said we'd come over tonight |
| 05:28.44 | CreamyG31337 | so then we both had to go |
| 05:29.17 | ajalkane | I guess, to keep appearances to the vicious wife, you will have to ride the motorbike periodically |
| 05:29.32 | CreamyG31337 | haha i hope not |
| 05:29.40 | CreamyG31337 | althogh it sounds like a sweet bike |
| 05:29.53 | CreamyG31337 | i would need a licence :( |
| 05:30.57 | ajalkane | I wonder what that guy was thinking... he can't seriously think he can fool his wife very long, if the motorbike is only driven by him :) |
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| 05:31.32 | CreamyG31337 | yeah she seemed to buy it, no way i'm going over there again |
| 05:31.41 | beford | he can pretend that CreamyG31337 died and wanted him to keep the bike |
| 05:31.56 | CreamyG31337 | yeah i put it in my will for him |
| 05:31.58 | ajalkane | Lol, "I just came to look at my motorbike. And perhaps listen how it sounds." |
| 05:32.08 | Arie | lol |
| 05:32.36 | CreamyG31337 | not for a while anyways, his wife is some chemist and she knows how to blow shit up |
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| 07:38.17 | phako | do I see that correctly that there's only one package per (sub-)project in the OBS? |
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| 07:40.25 | phako | ah, no |
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| 08:40.14 | khertan | ~update |
| 08:40.15 | infobot | somebody said update was http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/n9-developer/2012/01/25/harmattan-1.2-beta-now-available-as-ocf-for-nokia-n950 |
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| 10:11.17 | djszapi | X-Fade lbt do we have raspberry pi target on c-obs ? |
| 10:11.36 | djszapi | perhaps better to ask in #qt-onpi :-) |
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| 10:35.57 | phako | is osc supposed to work with the c-obs? |
| 10:36.13 | phako | I keep getting "basic auth failed" |
| 10:36.41 | X-Fade | phako: Yes, works for me. |
| 10:36.52 | X-Fade | phako: Wrong pw in .oscrc? |
| 10:37.21 | phako | nope |
| 10:37.32 | phako | also disabled anything keyring related |
| 10:39.14 | X-Fade | phako: Ok, can you try to do something? So I can watch the log? |
| 10:39.19 | phako | sure |
| 10:39.37 | phako | done. tried to co home:jensgeorg |
| 10:41.10 | X-Fade | Ok, I see it too now. Let me try to figure out why it is happening. |
| 10:44.15 | X-Fade | phako: Can you try now? |
| 10:44.38 | phako | X-Fade: same |
| 10:45.09 | X-Fade | Check cfe production log |
| 10:45.23 | X-Fade | Oops :) |
| 10:46.38 | Jeffrey04 | is there any way i can call the vkb in a .jar app? |
| 10:46.44 | phako | https://api.pub.meego.com is the correct API url, right? |
| 10:46.54 | X-Fade | phako: Login to website works, right? |
| 10:47.02 | X-Fade | phako: yep |
| 10:47.14 | phako | X-Fade: yes, also adding stuff works |
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| 10:47.54 | phako | I'm happily building stuff, I just got tired of using the web interface |
| 10:48.16 | phako | X-Fade: could it be that ubuntu's osc is simply too old? |
| 10:48.27 | X-Fade | phako: https://api.pub.meego.com/source/home:jensgeorg/_meta |
| 10:48.34 | X-Fade | Can you go there with a browser? |
| 10:48.54 | phako | gives me an XML file |
| 10:49.04 | phako | I'll try to get a newer osc version |
| 10:49.09 | X-Fade | Yeah, so auth is ok and the problem is in your osc somehow. |
| 10:51.25 | X-Fade | phako: You could try this one: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools:/2.1/xUbuntu_11.04/all/osc_0.134.0-1_all.deb |
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| 10:51.41 | phako | X-Fade: oh, I just built https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/osc/0.132.6-1 |
| 10:51.58 | phako | sec |
| 10:52.06 | X-Fade | Well, whatever works :) |
| 10:52.40 | phako | nlpe |
| 10:52.44 | phako | nope |
| 10:53.00 | X-Fade | move your .oscrc away? |
| 10:53.51 | X-Fade | See if it really isn't anything in there which messes with you. |
| 10:54.14 | phako | ahhh |
| 10:54.15 | phako | :) |
| 10:54.16 | phako | thanks |
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| 11:06.45 | phako | argh |
| 11:07.23 | phako | http://apps.formeego.com/staging/applications/n9/pr1.0/harmattan/Multimedia/korva-client/ - can that be removed? I didn't pay attention that the debian rules still produce the desktop client package |
| 11:08.30 | X-Fade | phako: Ok, so it is not a package that should have been uploaded? |
| 11:09.54 | X-Fade | phako: Click on the community QA button and send the form without clicking 'Should the app be in the catalog' |
| 11:10.17 | phako | X-Fade: the source package generates two packages, and that one shouldn't be there. |
| 11:10.23 | phako | *two debian |
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| 11:22.40 | X-Fade | phako: ok, it is fixed, but you need to push pushup again. |
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| 11:23.53 | djszapi | hey |
| 11:24.11 | djszapi | has somebody reported a review as abuse giving one star because of a lacking language ? |
| 11:24.16 | djszapi | for an OVI review, that is |
| 11:24.30 | djszapi | or has anybody reported any abuses so far ? |
| 11:24.37 | djszapi | I wonder how Nokia handle that. |
| 11:26.14 | phako | X-Fade: thanks |
| 11:27.22 | rZr | djszapi, may some pple dont like to hang others :) |
| 11:28.14 | djszapi | rZr: there is no person hanging |
| 11:28.22 | djszapi | there is a red X logo only. |
| 11:28.35 | djszapi | in khangman, that is. |
| 11:28.56 | djszapi | To be honest, I was considering to report a review as abuse giving one star because of the lack for his/her native language |
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| 11:38.16 | rZr | djszapi, dont takes it that seriously ... who cares ? |
| 11:38.33 | djszapi | rZr: I do care about the product I spend my time with. |
| 11:39.12 | rZr | well if many users like it then the bad review will be insignifiant |
| 11:39.31 | djszapi | no, sorry. They should be more respectful. |
| 11:39.48 | djszapi | this should not become a tradition in Ovi. Saying that independently from my application. |
| 11:39.53 | djszapi | one star means -> total crap. |
| 11:41.52 | rZr | not for me |
| 11:42.46 | djszapi | I am sure you are inidividual enough with that opinion. |
| 11:43.45 | djszapi | if I see an application with review one star, well I am partially scared off, but at least some prejudice. |
| 11:45.04 | djszapi | 5 -> excellent, 4 -> very well done, but there are minor drawbacks that would be nice to get fixed, etc |
| 11:51.25 | ajalkane | Hmm... just an idea... could you issue a DMCA takedown letter against that comment? |
| 11:51.43 | ajalkane | If I understood correctly then they'd have to immediately take it down |
| 11:53.33 | djszapi | there was a user previously giving "bad stars" because he did not care to explore the application |
| 11:53.40 | djszapi | what he "missed" was implemented :-) |
| 11:53.54 | djszapi | a settings option in the settings page, how weird xD |
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| 12:55.21 | phako | is the apps.formeego.com client supposed to be stuck in "installing" ? |
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| 12:56.21 | djszapi | ajalkane: what does DMCA takedown letter mean ? |
| 12:57.02 | djszapi | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act -> ohh. |
| 12:58.28 | djszapi | one star is not the nice of expressing a subfeature missing and very important. If the application works as intended, but I would like to have a wish, I would express that in the comment with a real life example why that is super important to me. Downvoting just makes the developer unmotivated for actually implementing that wish. |
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| 13:16.39 | the-boss` | [APPS] package camerra was ACCEPTED for promotion to Apps |
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| 13:56.33 | MFaro-Tusino | who wants to help with a dubs project i have? |
| 13:58.11 | ZogG_laptop | hmm, when connecting to computer as mass storage get error that can't mount coz it's used, thoguh no app open and reboot didn't do that |
| 13:58.24 | ZogG_laptop | xmms2 is now playing: - |
| 13:58.31 | MFaro-Tusino | linux? |
| 13:58.31 | ZogG_laptop | ooops |
| 13:58.51 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: the error in on N9 |
| 13:59.07 | MFaro-Tusino | yeah but are you connecting to linux? |
| 13:59.11 | ZogG_laptop | on linux i would solve =P |
| 13:59.15 | MFaro-Tusino | hahah |
| 13:59.16 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: yeah linux |
| 13:59.30 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: don't say n9 is linux =P |
| 13:59.46 | ZogG_laptop | i think tracker or something is stuck |
| 13:59.50 | MFaro-Tusino | N9 isn't linux |
| 14:00.07 | MFaro-Tusino | if it were it would be the worlds most advanced phone |
| 14:00.19 | MFaro-Tusino | but what exactly is the error? |
| 14:00.23 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: it's cutomized locked deep linux after all |
| 14:00.39 | MFaro-Tusino | can't just umount and remount the device? |
| 14:00.45 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: media can't be mounted cause it's used <- something like that |
| 14:00.55 | MFaro-Tusino | Oh, i had that a while back |
| 14:00.56 | ZogG_laptop | i can't mount |
| 14:01.04 | ZogG_laptop | N9 is blocking the card |
| 14:01.13 | MFaro-Tusino | have you recently installed anything? or dualbooted? |
| 14:01.14 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: how was it resolved? |
| 14:01.20 | ZogG_laptop | no dualboot |
| 14:01.33 | ZogG_laptop | and didn't install something special that i rememeber |
| 14:01.33 | MFaro-Tusino | flashed open kernel? |
| 14:01.37 | ZogG_laptop | nope |
| 14:01.40 | MFaro-Tusino | hmm |
| 14:01.47 | MFaro-Tusino | it happened to me after i triple booted |
| 14:01.53 | ZogG_laptop | though i didn't connected to usb for a while |
| 14:02.02 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: nemo ? =P |
| 14:02.14 | MFaro-Tusino | YEAH, NEMO AND NITDROID |
| 14:02.20 | MFaro-Tusino | THERE IS TMO POST ON IT |
| 14:02.21 | MFaro-Tusino | ANYWAY |
| 14:02.30 | MFaro-Tusino | i had to flash the emmc image to fix it |
| 14:03.14 | ZogG_laptop | damn nokia =P |
| 14:03.26 | ZogG_laptop | any info in internets? |
| 14:04.51 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: now i think it's inception time |
| 14:04.54 | ZogG_laptop | how do i root? |
| 14:05.05 | ZogG_laptop | xmms2 is now playing: - |
| 14:05.12 | ZogG_laptop | damn |
| 14:05.15 | ZogG_laptop | command not work |
| 14:05.19 | MFaro-Tusino | hahah |
| 14:05.30 | MFaro-Tusino | what you mean root? open mode? |
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| 14:05.40 | djszapi | X-Fade: where can I find the source code of apps4meego ? |
| 14:05.43 | djszapi | The website, that is. |
| 14:05.48 | ZogG_laptop | it was not /xmms2 next but /xmms2next =P |
| 14:06.02 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: i have inception thing |
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| 14:06.05 | X-Fade | djszapi: github |
| 14:06.32 | djszapi | X-Fade: got an url ? |
| 14:06.41 | MFaro-Tusino | yeah and whats wrong with it? |
| 14:06.58 | X-Fade | djszapi: components are here: https://github.com/nemein/ |
| 14:07.24 | X-Fade | djszapi: the com_meego* ones. |
| 14:08.19 | djszapi | X-Fade: I was interested in this, thanks: https://github.com/nemein/com_meego_ocs |
| 14:10.51 | itsnotabigtruck | ZogG_laptop: go to the inception site, download, and follow the steps :) |
| 14:11.08 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: inceptng opensh |
| 14:11.12 | itsnotabigtruck | including the parts for opensh and aegisctl |
| 14:11.14 | itsnotabigtruck | yay |
| 14:12.44 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: solved it |
| 14:12.49 | ZogG_laptop | like a bos |
| 14:12.51 | ZogG_laptop | boss |
| 14:12.53 | ZogG_laptop | no flash |
| 14:12.53 | MFaro-Tusino | wooo |
| 14:13.00 | MFaro-Tusino | congrats bro |
| 14:13.10 | MFaro-Tusino | tracker? |
| 14:13.10 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: did you have recorder app? |
| 14:13.23 | ZogG_laptop | callrecorded |
| 14:13.23 | MFaro-Tusino | i still do |
| 14:13.30 | ZogG_laptop | that was the problem |
| 14:13.32 | ZogG_laptop | lsof /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 14:13.32 | ZogG_laptop | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE/OFF NODE NAME |
| 14:13.33 | ZogG_laptop | confirmat 2906 nobody 10w REG 179,1 7905324 3070 /home/user/MyDocs/.CallRecorder/_In_1335350925.wav |
| 14:13.56 | MFaro-Tusino | hahahah |
| 14:14.01 | MFaro-Tusino | *deletes app* |
| 14:14.14 | MFaro-Tusino | I have never used it so that is why it hasn't affected me, yet |
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| 14:14.58 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: i would try to report devel if i wouldn't forget |
| 14:15.16 | MFaro-Tusino | hahah |
| 14:15.23 | MFaro-Tusino | he/she should be aware of issue |
| 14:15.52 | ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: meh, i think it's just got stuck |
| 14:15.53 | MFaro-Tusino | don't want non savvy users to encounter the same issue |
| 14:16.55 | ZogG_laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.55 | ZogG_laptop | sh: whatis: not found |
| 14:16.57 | ZogG_laptop | hmm |
| 14:17.09 | ZogG_laptop | wonder is it part of it all, or it's tracker |
| 14:17.24 | ZogG_laptop | maybe it's tracker who would stuc and we blame to early to make conclusions |
| 14:17.37 | MFaro-Tusino | hahaha |
| 14:17.42 | ZogG_laptop | /s/to eraly/too early |
| 14:17.47 | ZogG_laptop | hmm |
| 14:17.51 | ZogG_laptop | ok gonna go |
| 14:17.53 | ZogG_laptop | bye |
| 14:17.56 | MFaro-Tusino | oh well, as long as it works now |
| 14:17.57 | MFaro-Tusino | bye |
| 14:17.59 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: tthanks =) |
| 14:19.16 | MFaro-Tusino | who can help with dubs? |
| 14:19.24 | MFaro-Tusino | someone must be able to, surely |
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| 14:21.14 | itsnotabigtruck | MFaro-Tusino: dubs? like what comes on export movie audio tracks? :p |
| 14:21.42 | MFaro-Tusino | erghh, auto correct hahha |
| 14:21.44 | MFaro-Tusino | dbus |
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| 14:58.36 | rm_work | bleh, PR1.2beta still hasn't fixed the SMS alignment bugs on the N950 when using the hardware keyboard |
| 14:58.55 | GeneralAntilles | Input with the keyboard just plain sucks all around. |
| 14:58.59 | rm_work | everyone else gets that too, right? where it shoves everything too far up and you can't get to the very top? |
| 14:59.02 | rm_work | GeneralAntilles: yeah :/ |
| 14:59.12 | rm_work | i'm getting more and more used to using the vkbd on the n950 and others |
| 14:59.20 | GeneralAntilles | You can fix it by minimizing the software keyboard first. |
| 14:59.29 | rm_work | not because i like it (still hate it), but i'm accepting the fact that phone manufacturers hate hwkbd |
| 14:59.40 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, stupid. |
| 15:01.12 | rm_work | but, PR1.2 IS a huge improvement over beta1 >_> |
| 15:01.27 | rm_work | dunno why i fought upgrading for over a year |
| 15:08.39 | pa | is it possible that the 64 shows up as a little bit slower and more sluggish than the 16? |
| 15:08.50 | pa | (maybe coz of more memory used for the FS, i dont know) |
| 15:09.02 | pa | or maybe it's just mine.. |
| 15:09.30 | pa | like entering menus |
| 15:09.37 | pa | opening the various settings pages |
| 15:09.38 | rm_work | GeneralAntilles: blah and typed smileys still double the last character |
| 15:09.44 | pa | and in things like this |
| 15:10.25 | GeneralAntilles | lol |
| 15:10.41 | GeneralAntilles | I wish it weren't so impossible to get a phone that didn't completely suck in some way. |
| 15:11.17 | rm_work | truth |
| 15:15.31 | itsnotabigtruck | if it weren't for nokia pulling the plug on harmattan, the N9 would have been pretty close to that |
| 15:16.36 | itsnotabigtruck | but yeah, the problem is the distribution (not selling it where it counts), the almost-terminated software support, the discouragement of prospective devs |
| 15:17.01 | pa | where did i read that it's getting extremely popular on gsmarena? |
| 15:17.07 | pa | i mean, thanks to android, ofc |
| 15:17.26 | itsnotabigtruck | hm, no idea |
| 15:17.40 | itsnotabigtruck | btw you guys should get into #inception |
| 15:17.42 | pa | but i checked, and yes its more popular than iphone4 |
| 15:17.54 | pa | s |
| 15:18.43 | pa | anyway |
| 15:18.45 | itsnotabigtruck | that isn't really a representative anything though |
| 15:18.54 | pa | tomorrow i send mine back for fixing.. |
| 15:19.04 | pa | hope it fixess the slugginess too |
| 15:19.12 | itsnotabigtruck | the fact of the matter si that the iphone is demolishing every other individual smartphone |
| 15:19.15 | pa | on the 16gb it's pretty ok |
| 15:19.18 | itsnotabigtruck | and iphone and android together annihilate anything else |
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| 15:19.28 | itsnotabigtruck | 'fixing'? |
| 15:19.43 | pa | well yea, my touchscreen still jitters, after all |
| 15:19.57 | itsnotabigtruck | oh right |
| 15:20.30 | MFaro-Tusino | PA: You read it on the blog i am on, mynokiablog.com |
| 15:20.47 | pa | ha probably :) |
| 15:20.59 | MFaro-Tusino | was left in the comment on my #operationunicorn post |
| 15:20.59 | pa | i follow that one, yes |
| 15:21.00 | pa | :) |
| 15:21.29 | pa | btw , is it already possible to find on the market compatible batteries for N9/lumia800? |
| 15:21.55 | GeneralAntilles | engadget.com |
| 15:22.06 | MFaro-Tusino | Yes, I have ordered one for my N9. Am using the L800 battery from my lumia for now, but it is possible to buy them |
| 15:24.25 | GeneralAntilles | Damn window focus. . . . |
| 15:24.36 | pa | nice |
| 15:24.54 | itsnotabigtruck | pa: yeah it is, i don't remember the part number right now |
| 15:24.57 | itsnotabigtruck | but they don't cost that much |
| 15:25.05 | itsnotabigtruck | i want to say something-5jw |
| 15:25.43 | itsnotabigtruck | it's black with text printed on it and a connector hanging off of it |
| 15:25.57 | itsnotabigtruck | watch out for retailers that show a regular interchangeable nokia battery with 5JW shopped onto it |
| 15:26.15 | itsnotabigtruck | because that's not what it looks like |
| 15:26.40 | itsnotabigtruck | as for lumia, no idea |
| 15:27.40 | itsnotabigtruck | most of the lumia design and manufacturing was farmed out and i wouldn't count on it being similar to the N9 in any way but looks |
| 15:44.04 | MFaro-Tusino | BL-5JW |
| 15:44.19 | MFaro-Tusino | Lumia battery is the same as the N9 :) |
| 15:44.58 | MFaro-Tusino | I am using my Lumia's battery in my N9 atm actually while my replacement is being delivered |
| 15:50.03 | pa | anyway |
| 15:50.18 | pa | they told me that to fix my n9, they can either replace the screen , or the mainboard |
| 15:50.32 | pa | so there's no such thing like fixing one little part? |
| 15:50.50 | pa | meaning i should take my stuff out too |
| 15:59.06 | itsnotabigtruck | pa: yeah, zeroize it first according to the instructions in my guide |
| 15:59.14 | itsnotabigtruck | that ensures they don't see any data of yours |
| 15:59.29 | itsnotabigtruck | nor can they try and cop out of warranty service because you installed inception or something like that |
| 15:59.47 | itsnotabigtruck | though i haven't heard any stories of that actually happening yet |
| 16:06.16 | pa | hehe yes :) |
| 16:06.24 | pa | i was indeed waiting a little |
| 16:07.22 | itsnotabigtruck | well, don't let anything like that keep you from installing inception, once you get the n9 back, anyway |
| 16:07.36 | itsnotabigtruck | oh, also make sure you make it extremely clear what the problem is so they can't try and send it back as no-repro |
| 16:07.41 | pa | yes, i guess i will do it, soon or late |
| 16:07.54 | itsnotabigtruck | just do it right after you get it back :p |
| 16:08.05 | itsnotabigtruck | there's basically zero risk |
| 16:09.21 | itsnotabigtruck | btw supposedly steam for linux exists and it's coming soon |
| 16:09.27 | itsnotabigtruck | of course, there's been rumors about that for a long time |
| 16:09.48 | itsnotabigtruck | i guess i'll believe it when i see it |
| 16:12.39 | pa | hmm should i start making some little python gui for packaging ? hmmm.. |
| 16:13.31 | pa | better not gui actually |
| 16:14.01 | pa | or, gui creating some xml file or somethign |
| 16:14.41 | itsnotabigtruck | for packaging what? |
| 16:15.01 | itsnotabigtruck | it would be maybe a good idea to have a command line tool that makes it easy to build a package from a directory tree |
| 16:15.10 | itsnotabigtruck | because most people CBA to make packages the right way |
| 16:15.11 | pa | yes |
| 16:15.19 | pa | or something like that |
| 16:15.20 | itsnotabigtruck | and when they refuse to do them the right way, they make broken packages instead |
| 16:15.20 | pa | yes |
| 16:15.25 | itsnotabigtruck | e.g. missing digsigsums |
| 16:15.28 | ArkanoiD_ | opensh: operation not permitted. wtf? i don't remember any dev mode updates to be installed recently |
| 16:16.00 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: hm? |
| 16:16.03 | pa | itsnotabigtruck, tyou are right.. probably it's enough to use the filesystem |
| 16:16.11 | pa | and one aegis.manifest |
| 16:16.45 | ArkanoiD_ | itsnotabigtruck, just stopped working and that's all! |
| 16:17.10 | itsnotabigtruck | pa: however if you're serious about packaging stuff yourself |
| 16:17.13 | itsnotabigtruck | get scratchbox, pronto |
| 16:17.24 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: that's peculiar |
| 16:17.31 | itsnotabigtruck | btw the dev mode update didn't break existing inception installations |
| 16:17.33 | pa | gotta get a serious linux ws |
| 16:17.38 | pa | my lappie sucks |
| 16:17.41 | itsnotabigtruck | it broke pasiv, which sets inception up |
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| 16:17.59 | pa | at work i have windoze, and a server with linux that i use over NX |
| 16:18.00 | itsnotabigtruck | and 0.1.1 changed to a new exploit that still works |
| 16:18.03 | pa | not so comf |
| 16:18.04 | itsnotabigtruck | pa: get a VM |
| 16:18.05 | pa | :) |
| 16:18.08 | pa | right |
| 16:18.09 | ArkanoiD_ | itsnotabigtruck, i wonder what could break it |
| 16:18.15 | pa | good tip |
| 16:18.17 | itsnotabigtruck | i'm using crunchbang on virtualbox on windows |
| 16:18.18 | itsnotabigtruck | it works great |
| 16:18.27 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: do dmesg | tail |
| 16:18.49 | pa | i'll maybe try an ubuntu first |
| 16:18.50 | pa | :) |
| 16:19.02 | itsnotabigtruck | i don't recommend ubuntu on a VM |
| 16:19.11 | itsnotabigtruck | unity sucks normally, but it really sucks on a virtualized environment |
| 16:19.14 | pa | coz it's gpu dependent? |
| 16:19.23 | pa | well i normally use gnome-2d |
| 16:19.32 | pa | and uninstall unity |
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| 16:20.43 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: see any relevant kernel messages? |
| 16:21.24 | khertan | itsnotabigtruck: yeah ! crunchbang powa ! |
| 16:21.41 | ArkanoiD_ | nothing suspicious :-( |
| 16:22.13 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: are you sure, aegis-related EPERM errors are normally accompanied by a kernel message |
| 16:22.40 | ArkanoiD_ | and pasiv does not work saying it needs sys_chroot |
| 16:23.49 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: first, double-check those kernel messages, i'm suspicious about there being nothing there and i'd like to know what actually failed |
| 16:23.56 | ArkanoiD_ | ah |
| 16:23.58 | itsnotabigtruck | might need to run opensh again to make a fresh set of messages |
| 16:24.04 | itsnotabigtruck | second, you're on the old version of inception |
| 16:24.24 | itsnotabigtruck | if you never ran pasiv, opensh etc. definitely isn't going to work, and you'll need to update to 0.1.1 before you run it |
| 16:24.31 | ArkanoiD_ | credential 0::18 not present in source SRC::9990006 |
| 16:24.32 | itsnotabigtruck | i'd suggest updating to 0.1.1 in any case |
| 16:24.47 | itsnotabigtruck | hmm...did you uninstall aegis-local-source-policy |
| 16:24.51 | itsnotabigtruck | because this sounds like that |
| 16:24.54 | ArkanoiD_ | ok, will try new version first |
| 16:25.03 | ArkanoiD_ | nope i am sure i did not |
| 16:25.11 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, anyway, i'd suggest |
| 16:25.19 | itsnotabigtruck | a) uninstall opensh and aegisctl and any other inception-dependent packages |
| 16:25.28 | itsnotabigtruck | b) install inception 0.1.1 (it's ok to install it over the old ver) |
| 16:25.34 | itsnotabigtruck | c) run pasiv |
| 16:25.42 | itsnotabigtruck | d) incept opensh and aegisctl and any other inception-dependent packages |
| 16:25.48 | itsnotabigtruck | e) done :) |
| 16:26.02 | itsnotabigtruck | also, you should join the inception channel (#inception) |
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| 16:33.18 | itsnotabigtruck | ArkanoiD_: any luck? |
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| 16:34.58 | ArkanoiD_ | not tried yet, will do a little bit later |
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| 16:55.33 | npm | rm_you beford ... " it was npm and jonni talking" ??? |
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| 17:09.51 | Tronic | Hmmh, my phone lost GSM. |
| 17:10.17 | Tronic | I guess I need to reboot :/ |
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| 17:36.49 | nocaic | folks, I am wondering how to get SSH working. goog'ling sadly didn't produce any decent results for me. I can't seem to find the init script and netstat is not shoing any *:22 either... is it a case of apt-get? oddly the ssh packages are shown in the applications manager... |
| 17:44.22 | rZr | apt-get install openssh-server |
| 17:46.46 | itsnotabigtruck | nocaic: enabling dev mode should get everything installed |
| 17:47.02 | itsnotabigtruck | maybe try /sbin/initctl restart ssh |
| 17:47.08 | itsnotabigtruck | or rebooting (reboot) |
| 17:47.36 | itsnotabigtruck | also note that the default ssh config only allows connections from nonroutable ips |
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| 17:58.55 | rZr | stupid me i thought i was in an other chan :) |
| 17:59.27 | rZr | nocaic, forget about ssh-server |
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| 18:04.39 | nocaic | itsnotabigtruck: /sbin/initctl gives me a 'ssh start/running, process N', but subsequent 'ps ax | grep N' show nothing :(... reboots have been made to avail and I am convinced that 'netstat -antlp' ought to give me '*:22' results (it does for any other listening process....) whereas VNC is clearly available (in my case: tcp 0 0 172.16.42.42:5900 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN) |
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| 18:10.27 | nocaic | rZr: suppose you were not that far off... 'apt-cache show openssh-server' show that the package openss-server is 'Status: install ok installed' |
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| 18:10.50 | nocaic | though I am still at ground zero... |
| 18:12.42 | rZr | nmap ? |
| 18:18.28 | nocaic | nmap -sSV -PN -v 172.16.42.100 |
| 18:20.00 | nocaic | dead as a dodo... (mind you the ip's in my citation might be warped ;) ) |
| 18:21.38 | rZr | on localhost ? |
| 18:21.53 | rZr | i am unsure nmap is usable that way |
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| 18:23.42 | nocaic | rZr: if you are refering to my desktop, yes that has one port listed: 22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 5.9 (protocol 2.0) |
| 18:24.10 | rZr | no i am talking on device |
| 18:24.36 | rZr | nmap - Command line open-source network and security scanning tool |
| 18:26.13 | rZr | i am showing mine |
| 18:26.16 | nocaic | think I should have mentioned that I have had my phone for about 2 weeks - hadn't realized nmap is at hand... though a scan from my desktop should reflect the same properties... |
| 18:26.23 | rZr | Get:1 http://repo.pub.meego.com ./ nmap 5.59BETA1 [4039kB] |
| 18:26.48 | rZr | ~ $ nmap localhost |
| 18:26.48 | rZr | Starting Nmap 5.59BETA1 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2012-04-25 20:26 CEST |
| 18:26.48 | rZr | Nmap scan report for localhost (127.0.0.1) |
| 18:26.48 | rZr | Host is up (0.0015s latency). |
| 18:26.48 | rZr | rDNS record for 127.0.0.1: RM680 |
| 18:26.48 | rZr | Not shown: 998 closed ports |
| 18:26.50 | rZr | PORT STATE SERVICE |
| 18:26.52 | rZr | 22/tcp open ssh |
| 18:26.54 | rZr | 53/tcp open domain |
| 18:28.12 | rZr | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=nmap&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard |
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| 20:05.11 | the-boss` | [APPS] package KhtSimpleText was ACCEPTED for promotion to Apps |
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| 20:34.21 | djszapi | Hey! "Forum submission error. There was a problem sending your form information. Tap 'Retry' to resend the form." -> Has anybody in here experienced this issue ? Resending ends up in this stage again. |
| 20:34.34 | djszapi | this is from the Ovi Store application on my N9. |
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| 20:36.08 | djszapi | I have typed a VERY long review with full of details, so I would not like to lose. |
| 20:36.51 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 20:36.59 | djszapi | google works fine ingrob. |
| 20:37.05 | djszapi | so the network has no issues apparently. |
| 20:37.21 | SpeedEvil | Take a pic, or several, OCR |
| 20:37.47 | SpeedEvil | (and yes, this is silly) |
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| 20:38.02 | djszapiN9 | no network issues apparently. |
| 20:40.49 | djszapi | I cannot understand this silly client |
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| 20:49.17 | djszapi | ok I closed the application, lost the message, typed again, and the same error, hack. |
| 20:49.47 | djszapi | had no such issues in the past :( |
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| 20:52.57 | SpeedEvil | Too long? |
| 20:53.03 | SpeedEvil | tcpdump may be interesting |
| 20:53.47 | djszapi | 500 characters should be the limit |
| 20:53.55 | djszapi | I typed 3-4 lines in the end at the last try. |
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| 21:35.56 | Elleo | djszapi: I've had that issue before |
| 21:36.19 | Elleo | djszapi: I think maybe it's a problem on the Ovi store end, since after a few hours it worked |
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| 22:10.24 | itsnotabigtruck | djszapi: sounds like legendary ovi store reliability |
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| 22:15.29 | itsnotabigtruck | dull, oregon and boring, scotland are going to become sister cities |
| 22:15.35 | itsnotabigtruck | whoops, got those backward |
| 22:15.42 | itsnotabigtruck | boring, oregon and dull, scotland " " |
| 22:15.54 | sahib_ | haha |
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