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| 16:32.10 | lpapp|toughbook | merlin1991: piiiiing! |
| 16:32.14 | lpapp|toughbook | =] |
| 16:33.35 | itsnotabigtruck | Elleo: hmm |
| 16:33.41 | itsnotabigtruck | do you actually need to use pkgmgr |
| 16:34.08 | Elleo | itsnotabigtruck: I'm trying to replicate Nokia QA's apparent problem installing my application |
| 16:34.45 | itsnotabigtruck | Elleo: hmm...can't you test it on your phone then |
| 16:34.54 | Elleo | itsnotabigtruck: it works fine there |
| 16:34.59 | Elleo | and it works fine for about 40 other people |
| 16:35.02 | Elleo | as far as I can tell its probably because they're using a clean image and haven't let it update (so the python packages aren't listed as available in the repositories) |
| 16:35.27 | Elleo | if I do an apt-get update manually on it then try installing it it doesn't complain |
| 16:35.37 | itsnotabigtruck | Elleo: are you sure you didn't just miss a dependency |
| 16:35.46 | itsnotabigtruck | try reflashing, then installing your app first thing |
| 16:35.48 | Elleo | but I can't work out what procedure they *should* be following prior to trying to install |
| 16:36.17 | Elleo | itsnotabigtruck: I'd rather do it on the emulator, to avoid having to reflash |
| 16:36.32 | Elleo | plus their message says it doesn't even install |
| 16:36.41 | Elleo | which it doesn't if you have an absolutely clean image |
| 16:36.58 | itsnotabigtruck | ok, it's just that it's not very uncommon for python app devs to screw up their dependencies |
| 16:37.08 | itsnotabigtruck | and assume that everyone's phone has the same already-installed packages theirs does |
| 16:37.09 | Elleo | because it can't resolve *any* python-pyside packages until after you've update the repositories it seems |
| 16:37.11 | itsnotabigtruck | and there's a lot of them |
| 16:37.17 | itsnotabigtruck | that's pretty weird |
| 16:37.24 | itsnotabigtruck | sounds like the usual nokia qa being totally dodgy stuff |
| 16:37.41 | Elleo | plus the previous version of my app made it through QA without any issues |
| 16:37.54 | Elleo | there have only been some pretty minor changes (none requiring extra dependencies) |
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| 16:38.12 | Elleo | but I want to be certain there isn't something I'm missing before resubmitting it |
| 16:38.24 | Elleo | which is why I'm trying to do stuff against a clean image in the emulator |
| 16:40.58 | Elleo | it'd be nice if the QA response wasn't simply "The installation fails." with zero details |
| 16:44.40 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 16:45.12 | Elleo | oh well, I'll just resubmit it and hope that was the issue they were having, along with a note explaining that they need to update the package list prior to installing |
| 16:45.34 | itsnotabigtruck | mention that it can be done with |
| 16:45.50 | itsnotabigtruck | settings > applications > manage applications > updates tab > hit the refresh button |
| 16:46.22 | itsnotabigtruck | though i'm a bit skeptical, i'd have imagined this would have affected other python based apps |
| 16:46.48 | Elleo | well this is just my experience from testing with a clean image in the emulator |
| 16:47.13 | Elleo | "apt-cache search python-pyside" shows no packages with a fresh install, and the installer claims that dependencies can't be resolved |
| 16:47.27 | Elleo | after doing "apt-get update" it doesn't have that problem |
| 16:48.03 | Elleo | I'd have thought doing something like that would be part of the normal procedure prior to testing an app |
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| 16:50.00 | Elleo | and whoever did QA on my app last time didn't have any problems |
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| 17:15.44 | beford | anyone happens to know when ovi payments are issued? |
| 17:16.16 | lpapp|toughbook | by PR 1.4 :) |
| 17:16.22 | beford | :C |
| 17:16.26 | beford | :P |
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| 17:29.25 | ieatlint | haha, tizen devices... there's something kinda hilarious about having a tizen branded phone running efl in my hand |
| 17:30.30 | lpapp|toughbook | anybody having wacom touchscreen stuffy ? |
| 17:38.12 | jonni | beford: depends what you mean by payments :) |
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| 17:49.38 | GeneralAntilles | ieatlint, how's it feel? |
| 17:50.39 | MohammadAG | plasticky I'd say, given that it's made by Samsung |
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| 17:51.54 | ieatlint | it feels like a toy |
| 17:52.12 | ieatlint | it's a dev reference device, not production quality by far |
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| 17:52.45 | ieatlint | haven't gotten on console yet, but i'm told it's 1.2ghz dual core arm (not clear what chip), 1gb of ram |
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| 17:55.01 | GeneralAntilles | and Tizen? |
| 17:55.42 | ieatlint | yes, tizen.... i'm unclear if it has a cellular modem on it. there's a dialer app, and a couple references to the sim (including one screen that notes no sim is present) |
| 17:55.59 | ieatlint | and there is a sim card holder under the battery, but i don't have a minisim anymore to try it |
| 17:57.25 | ieatlint | but the software isn't horrible... kinda feature phone-esque |
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| 17:59.52 | virtuald | can't you just cut a regular sim to size (not a too old one) |
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| 18:06.40 | ieatlint | ~. |
| 18:06.40 | infobot | methinks ~. is not the escape sequence you're looking for. |
| 18:06.57 | ieatlint | it was, a minute ago :) |
| 18:07.19 | ieatlint | virtuald: minisim is a 'regular' sim card |
| 18:07.24 | ieatlint | my sim card is micro |
| 18:07.47 | ieatlint | besides, i wouldn't cut a sim card to try out a dev device for 5min :P |
| 18:07.57 | virtuald | ah |
| 18:08.53 | virtuald | i have some prepaid sims but never enough |
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| 18:27.26 | MohammadAG | spent half an hour trying to fix a compilation error |
| 18:27.50 | MohammadAG | realized it's because I forgot the namespace of the class, method instead of Class::method() when implementing it :/ |
| 18:27.54 | MohammadAG | I blame obj-c |
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| 18:59.29 | MohammadAG | also how do I freaking suppress QNetworkReplyImpl::_q_startOperation was called more than once from output |
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| 21:14.15 | ieatlint | djszapi: the food's good |
| 21:14.29 | ieatlint | also currently in a talk being given by rasterman, which is kinda cool |
| 21:15.31 | faenil | tizen? |
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| 21:28.02 | itsnotabigtruck | ieatlint: well, i don't think there's really such a thing as a 'mini sim' |
| 21:28.02 | itsnotabigtruck | though yeah, i've seen some sites calling a regular sim that |
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| 21:33.27 | leinir | ieatlint: *nods* Thought so - it's what we do, right? ;) |
| 21:34.21 | ieatlint | damn right :) |
| 21:40.34 | gabriel9 | do you know how to parse CDATA from XML |
| 21:40.38 | gabriel9 | in qml? |
| 21:44.14 | ieatlint | i know how in qt/c++... |
| 21:44.28 | ieatlint | only QML specific XML stuff was the xml view for lists i thought |
| 21:44.45 | ieatlint | otherwise just look up the xml parsing stuff for straight javascript |
| 21:46.12 | gabriel9 | as i know there is no parser in JS for XML |
| 21:46.19 | gabriel9 | for json there is :) |
| 21:48.42 | gabriel9 | and solution that i found is based ActiveX :/ |
| 21:49.01 | gabriel9 | time to continue learning C++ :) |
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| 21:49.29 | ieatlint | i'm about 60% sure there is, but that remaining 40% is pretty glaring |
| 21:49.51 | ieatlint | http://www.w3schools.com/xml/xml_parser.asp |
| 21:51.45 | ieatlint | i suspect the xml dom stuff is present in the js engines used by qt |
| 21:53.47 | gabriel9 | hm |
| 21:53.49 | gabriel9 | i wonder |
| 21:53.53 | gabriel9 | i will try |
| 21:54.57 | gabriel9 | good night all |
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| 22:33.04 | itsnotabigtruck | 'sup |
| 22:57.27 | Natunen | nuth´n |
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