| 00:00.13 | rzr | http://fm-radio.mobi/ |
| 00:00.20 | rzr | UT |
| 00:00.20 | rzr | Some users experience a problem with downloading 0.2.2 version of the application. Please be patient. Nokia will fix the problem soon. |
| 00:00.20 | rzr | Do not try to download the application more then 10 times. Otherwise you will be double charged. We will publish update when problem is fixed. |
| 00:00.53 | Creteil | rzr, 0.2.2 version of the application ??????????? |
| 00:01.03 | rzr | This application includes some parts distributed under GPL license. Please find full version of license agreement here. |
| 00:01.13 | Creteil | Nokia N9 FM Radio updated 1.0.0 version has native N9 style! "Retro" theme with RDS support, plus convenient glossy "Classic" style are waiting for your choice. |
| 00:01.13 | rzr | Creteil, you can ask him the sources .... |
| 00:01.39 | rzr | git clone https://github.com/andytolst/fmradio.git |
| 00:01.50 | rzr | well you can try to rebuild it :) |
| 00:02.08 | Creteil | I have managed to install the apps, because when this buggy store hang, I can find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 00:02.53 | Creteil | I can also install with dpk the package, the app work fine, but when starting store after that, it report the apps in error status |
| 00:02.56 | rzr | you can recontruct the deb ... |
| 00:04.04 | Creteil | but why we have to manage all sort of things like that when we pay for an app ??? |
| 00:04.26 | rzr | blame selop |
| 00:04.35 | Creteil | Does someone at nokia care about this problems ? |
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| 00:05.07 | Creteil | in French whe say : selop the 'saloppe' |
| 00:05.08 | Creteil | :-) |
| 00:05.10 | Creteil | oops ... |
| 00:05.29 | rzr | Creteil, ils regleront d abord ce probleme : http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NOK&t=5d&l=on&z=l&q=l&c= |
| 00:05.42 | rzr | ou pas ... |
| 00:06.23 | Creteil | ah oui effectivement ils ont d'autre soucis que mes 2 euros ... :-) |
| 00:06.39 | Creteil | s/d'autre/d'autres/ |
| 00:06.53 | Creteil | :-) |
| 00:07.17 | rzr | /j #meego-fr |
| 00:08.45 | itsnotabigtruck | b0unc3: ok, then you should make a manifest for your app that requests that permission |
| 00:09.59 | itsnotabigtruck | don't try and run your program through develsh, it isn't there if developer mode is off |
| 00:10.10 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr: that git repo is stale |
| 00:10.31 | itsnotabigtruck | i think the author originally distributed it as open source, then decided to cash in |
| 00:10.33 | rzr | it looks yes |
| 00:10.49 | rzr | this does not exclude ... |
| 00:10.52 | b0unc3 | itsnotabigtruck: but I can make a manifest just for my bin? or I need the full .deb? |
| 00:11.17 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr: it's for 0.0.7, quite a bit older than 0.2.2 :p |
| 00:11.24 | itsnotabigtruck | b0unc3: no, the manifest goes into the deb |
| 00:11.29 | itsnotabigtruck | so yeah, you have to install it |
| 00:11.35 | itsnotabigtruck | but for testing, go ahead and use develsh |
| 00:11.55 | b0unc3 | itsnotabigtruck: ah ok, that's the answer I was looking for, thank you :) |
| 00:12.01 | Creteil | on my side I'm taking about version 1.0.1 |
| 00:12.09 | itsnotabigtruck | and that aegis-exec command is very useful for limiting the permissions your app is run with as you test |
| 00:12.15 | Creteil | s/taking/talking/ |
| 00:12.16 | rzr | itsnotabigtruck, i have noticed ... anyway i respect his choice but if noone asked for the sources he conform to the gpl :) |
| 00:12.33 | itsnotabigtruck | and with INCEPTION and opensh, you can run things with any permission |
| 00:12.40 | itsnotabigtruck | (develsh only allows a small subset) |
| 00:12.55 | itsnotabigtruck | Creteil: there's 2 different radio apps |
| 00:13.00 | rzr | at least |
| 00:13.06 | itsnotabigtruck | right, there's 2 in the store |
| 00:13.08 | Creteil | itsnotabigtruck, I have buy the 2 :-) |
| 00:13.11 | itsnotabigtruck | 1 other that's not in the store |
| 00:13.21 | itsnotabigtruck | the git repo is for the russian's radio app |
| 00:13.40 | itsnotabigtruck | both are directly based on javis' radio backend code |
| 00:13.45 | itsnotabigtruck | neither provides up to date source |
| 00:13.57 | b0unc3 | itsnotabigtruck: yeah, but I really don't know how many people are using INCEPTION... |
| 00:13.58 | itsnotabigtruck | both are trying to cash in on somebody else's work, fuck 'em |
| 00:14.16 | Creteil | itsnotabigtruck, :-( |
| 00:14.26 | rzr | maybe javis agreaed that |
| 00:14.45 | rzr | itsnotabigtruck, nokia is also cashing ... |
| 00:15.38 | Creteil | Here is those I have buy : |
| 00:15.39 | Creteil | ~ # dpkg -l "*fmradio*" | grep ii |
| 00:15.41 | Creteil | ii fmradio 1.0.1 Old-fashioned FM Radio receiver |
| 00:15.42 | Creteil | ii fmradion9 1.4.0 FM radio receiver with RDS. |
| 00:15.44 | Creteil | ~ # |
| 00:15.44 | infobot | from memory, # is pound, or hash, or sometimes the number sign. a tic-tac-toe board, or octothorpe |
| 00:16.09 | rzr | :) |
| 00:16.25 | Creteil | The 2 manage the RDS |
| 00:16.30 | Creteil | properly |
| 00:17.00 | itsnotabigtruck | rzr: he didn't |
| 00:17.02 | itsnotabigtruck | afaik |
| 00:17.24 | itsnotabigtruck | though i don't care about him, i do care about sheisty ovi store app devs |
| 00:17.29 | rzr | then he should ask for the sources and publish them... |
| 00:17.49 | rzr | that's what i would do |
| 00:18.04 | Creteil | But if the original author of the code released his work under gpl, doesn't anyone be able to reuse it even to make cash ? |
| 00:18.08 | rzr | but i am wondering if those store are generating so much revenue |
| 00:18.38 | rzr | Creteil, closing derivate works is the problem , not selling |
| 00:18.48 | Creteil | ah yes .. however they need to publish source code of the modifications ... |
| 00:19.03 | Creteil | And they doesn't ? |
| 00:19.10 | Creteil | they just sux ... |
| 00:19.13 | rzr | donno just ask them |
| 00:19.20 | rzr | maybe they will conform |
| 00:19.36 | rzr | if you got a copy you have the RIGHT to get the sources |
| 00:20.00 | rzr | just ask |
| 00:20.18 | rzr | noone is violating anything so far |
| 00:21.23 | rzr | but if source delivery is refused then you can contact javis and try to find some acceptable solution .... |
| 00:22.46 | itsnotabigtruck | Creteil: i don't care about what's legal, or what stallman thinks...that sort of thing is just a shitty move, period |
| 00:23.06 | itsnotabigtruck | and the problem is that this sort of thing is the norm for paid phone apps |
| 00:23.24 | itsnotabigtruck | it's why as a rule i don't buy apps |
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| 00:24.46 | Creteil | itsnotabigtruck, as myself the creator of the forked project aMule, I must say I don't care about making money for from open source project but it's not the same position of all people ... |
| 00:25.08 | Creteil | s/for from/from/ |
| 00:36.51 | itsnotabigtruck | Creteil: the problem is that it involves making money from somebody else's work, without the original work being compensated at all |
| 00:37.23 | itsnotabigtruck | if you make something and then both charge for it and open source it, that's not a problem |
| 00:37.32 | itsnotabigtruck | but if you take someone else's open source work and put a price tag on it... |
| 00:37.37 | itsnotabigtruck | that's just low |
| 00:45.11 | DocScrutinizer | Creteil: sorry for being sarcastic, but paying for fm radio app is probably the rror in the whole process |
| 00:45.49 | Creteil | DocScrutinizer, so if I want to use it, what do you propose ? |
| 00:46.28 | DocScrutinizer | I suppose you read that radio thread on FMC created by javispedro |
| 00:47.02 | Creteil | DocScrutinizer, not really ... |
| 00:47.04 | Creteil | url ? |
| 00:47.05 | DocScrutinizer | and I'd think you get own ideas after reading it |
| 00:51.25 | DocScrutinizer | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902 |
| 00:59.59 | Creteil | DocScrutinizerdamn 24 pages ... |
| 01:00.06 | Creteil | DocScrutinizer, damn 24 pages ... |
| 01:01.04 | DocScrutinizer | sure, go pay 1.99 (or whatever) on OVI store, and you don't need to read all this boring stuff |
| 01:02.03 | DocScrutinizer | it's clearly the convenience you pay for |
| 01:02.27 | Creteil | DocScrutinizer, I have already pay 2x2€ for http://store.ovi.com/content/262564 & http://store.ovi.com/content/257060 |
| 01:03.02 | DocScrutinizer | the pity in it is that brilliant devels like javispedro don't show up here all that frequently anymore |
| 01:04.11 | DocScrutinizer | "contains GPL parts which we assure you will stay free" BWAHAHAHA |
| 01:04.15 | Creteil | DocScrutinizer, like I already explained I personally don't care about someone making money with project I started ... |
| 01:05.07 | Creteil | Free don't necessary mean Free in terms of money ... |
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| 01:05.32 | DocScrutinizer | well, seems javispedro feels different about that - and I've seen "bla.dropbox.foo.bar" on last page of that thread |
| 01:05.34 | rzr | let me insist to ask your distributor the sources of that gpl derivate work |
| 01:06.47 | DocScrutinizer | http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=40363&postcount=244 though I haven't really read it |
| 01:09.55 | DocScrutinizer | except for *maybe* usb-hostmode I won't touch n9(50) until somebody ported a *proper* system that doesn't need openmode or <forgotthename> hacks to make the most elementary things work (and same time breaks 30% of other elementary stock apps) |
| 01:10.52 | DocScrutinizer | btw I guess hostmode already works (kinda), just I'm too frustrated with this OS to really bother |
| 01:11.33 | DocScrutinizer | s/OS/environment and "ecosystem" |
| 01:14.26 | DocScrutinizer | and those who know me for a while will devine what are my feelings about one of the very first 'apps' exploiting inception (now I recall the name) being OPPtimizer, an overclocking shite |
| 01:16.50 | Creteil | DocScrutinizer, why are you considering inception and OPPtimizer as shite ? |
| 01:17.07 | ieatlint | :P |
| 01:17.17 | ieatlint | you just need to overclock your phone man, then you'll love it |
| 01:18.53 | DocScrutinizer | when I was young (in the 70s of last century) it was a common weekend sport to tune your "MoFa" (motor bicycle, max 25km/h), at least for those 15yo who were allowed to drive those things first time in their life. Somehow OC seems to be absolutely same |
| 01:20.15 | DocScrutinizer | some "1337" (though that word didn't exist back when) kids managed to tune their mofa to 70km/h, some even to >100km/h |
| 01:20.21 | DocScrutinizer | guess what happened to them |
| 01:20.59 | ieatlint | they got all the women? |
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| 01:21.12 | DocScrutinizer | for a very short while |
| 01:21.56 | Creteil | rzr, |
| 01:22.04 | Creteil | rzr, c'est quoi le chan FR ? |
| 01:22.08 | Creteil | :-) |
| 01:22.27 | DocScrutinizer | ce n'est pas un chan FR |
| 01:23.08 | DocScrutinizer | il n'ya un chan come ca` |
| 01:23.15 | DocScrutinizer | ;-P |
| 01:23.33 | Creteil | rzr, houhou !!! |
| 01:23.42 | ieatlint | yeah, we only talk american in here |
| 01:23.58 | DocScrutinizer | bloody yankees |
| 01:24.09 | ieatlint | halt den mund |
| 01:24.30 | Creteil | I know ... slow down ... relax & take a prozac ;-) |
| 01:24.44 | DocScrutinizer | not available here :-P |
| 01:24.48 | ieatlint | prozac doesn't have a quick effect |
| 01:24.57 | ieatlint | he wants something like xanax |
| 01:25.13 | Creteil | I don't know the 2 ... |
| 01:25.27 | DocScrutinizer | I want a proper jynnontonxx |
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| 01:26.53 | DocScrutinizer | or a pangalactic thundergargle |
| 01:27.16 | ieatlint | that sounds awesome |
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| 01:30.01 | DocScrutinizer | http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:0jflzrWaPyAJ:http://www.douglasadams.com/cgi-bin/mboard/info/thread.cgi |
| 01:32.03 | rzr | DocScrutinizer, #meego-fr :) |
| 01:35.02 | ieatlint | ah, and now i of course remember where that's from |
| 02:02.13 | itsnotabigtruck | moped overclocking? |
| 02:02.16 | itsnotabigtruck | that's fucking awesome |
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| 08:02.45 | MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer: Tu parles français? |
| 08:09.30 | RST38h | moos |
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| 08:38.31 | elysion | anyone familiar with the mafw and music suite dbus api? |
| 08:38.51 | elysion | trying to get the music suite to open the "recently added" playlist via dbus message |
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| 09:55.07 | MohammadAG | mafw API won't help |
| 09:55.24 | MohammadAG | unless you open the music suite and then assign the recently added playlist |
| 09:55.48 | MohammadAG | but afaik, from my work on Maemo5, that list is populated at runtime |
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| 11:02.30 | elysion | MohammadAG: I am launching music-suite separately |
| 11:02.49 | elysion | I would just need to tell the music-suite to start playing the dynamic playlist |
| 11:03.17 | elysion | at least it seems like the playlist is stored in mafw |
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| 12:00.40 | MohammadAG | elysion, I'm not sure about Harmattan, but here's how I got a list of the recently added songs in my cloned mediaplayer http://gitorious.org/qt-mediaplayer/mediaplayer/blobs/master/musicwindow.cpp#line827 |
| 12:02.19 | elysion | MohammadAG: is it possible to some how get that player to start playing a dynamic playlist? |
| 12:02.56 | elysion | or does it load the previously used playlist after launching by default? |
| 12:03.24 | elysion | it does not really matter to me which player I would be using as long as it works |
| 12:03.58 | MohammadAG | that player's for maemo 5 |
| 12:04.26 | MohammadAG | you can however recreate the dynamic list and assign it to MAFW, music-suite should handle that |
| 12:05.03 | elysion | oh, ok |
| 12:05.20 | elysion | but how can I make the music-suite play the playlist? |
| 12:05.52 | elysion | is there a url schema for the mafw content that the dbus api recognizes? |
| 12:06.30 | elysion | I have been able to play playlists stored in the filesystem, but I found no way of loading the dynamic ones |
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| 13:01.48 | Corsac | wow |
| 13:02.08 | Corsac | http://www.lemonde.fr/technologies/article/2012/05/17/smartphone-de-nouveaux-concurrents-pour-android-et-ios_1702236_651865.html#ens_id=1702714&xtor=RSS-3208 ← a n900 in a french newspaper! |
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| 13:14.57 | MohammadAG | the fuck pinchableimagewidget.h:17: error: conflicting return type specified for 'virtual bool PinchableImageWidget::gestureEvent(QGestureEvent*)' |
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| 13:22.51 | rzr | Corsac, /j #meego-fr |
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| 13:28.04 | DocScrutinizer | Corsac: I bet in #maemo you'll find more interested audience ;-D |
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| 15:24.13 | Corsac | DocScrutinizer: it's not /that/ interesting anyway |
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| 16:41.08 | djszapi | bef0rd: before hi, I have a simpler task for you on Mac :) |
| 16:41.16 | djszapi | do you still have the QtSerialPort project cloned ? |
| 16:42.14 | bef0rd | no |
| 16:42.30 | bef0rd | hold on |
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| 16:53.45 | djszapi | bef0rd: I hold on. |
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| 16:59.55 | ZogG_laptop | hmm =) wazapp is out |
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| 17:01.42 | ZogG_laptop | registration is but fails on registration |
| 17:01.49 | tgalal | fails? |
| 17:01.58 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: yup |
| 17:02.05 | tgalal | what happens |
| 17:02.09 | tgalal | u should at least get SMS |
| 17:02.16 | ZogG_laptop | now i had Everything failing? try me and it fails too |
| 17:02.26 | tgalal | did u get SMS ? |
| 17:02.27 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: it fails on request of sms |
| 17:02.34 | tgalal | what's the message |
| 17:02.40 | tgalal | it should show an error message |
| 17:02.51 | ZogG_laptop | server said fail-too-recent:XX |
| 17:02.55 | ZogG_laptop | where XX are numbers |
| 17:03.04 | ZogG_laptop | i think i had 57 and 6X |
| 17:03.10 | tgalal | when was the last time u registered ? |
| 17:03.27 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: year or more ago |
| 17:03.32 | tgalal | oh crap |
| 17:03.42 | tgalal | but the first error it couldn't have been too recent |
| 17:03.44 | ZogG_laptop | don't tell me coz i didn't pay than i wouldn't be able |
| 17:04.31 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: first time you registered (on wazapp), the error message was too recent as well ? |
| 17:04.37 | tgalal | fail-too-recent |
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| 17:04.51 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: didn't paid attention but assume yes |
| 17:05.11 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: you think i should give it some time and retry or ddos the request? =) |
| 17:05.19 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: btw, thank |
| 17:05.28 | ZogG_laptop | thnaks for app anyway |
| 17:06.01 | tgalal | 180 downloads :) |
| 17:06.16 | djszapi | for how long time ? |
| 17:06.18 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: how long was announce? |
| 17:06.33 | tgalal | 10 minutes |
| 17:06.39 | ZogG_laptop | niiiice |
| 17:06.52 | djszapi | why is wazapp good ? |
| 17:06.57 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: so you think the problem is that i have old account for a long time? |
| 17:07.06 | ZogG_laptop | adn what you would suggest me to do? |
| 17:07.13 | tgalal | maybe it has to do with expiry |
| 17:07.20 | tgalal | but this message "fail-too-recent" |
| 17:07.24 | tgalal | is a direct message from server |
| 17:07.43 | ZogG_laptop | maybe i should try to get it on other phone and it would send sms to me here? |
| 17:07.46 | tgalal | and not like any interpretation from client, which means it's really considered "too recent" |
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| 17:08.48 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: that is doable, I just need to know if other users face this as well :\ |
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| 17:09.03 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: we'll see the thread |
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| 17:10.22 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: btw you should change default code from +20 to + i think or make hidden text that if you tap it goes to only + |
| 17:10.34 | ZogG_laptop | even without +, integrate it |
| 17:11.04 | ZogG_laptop | make like (+) (box where numbers are shown and when you tap they dissapear to enter text) |
| 17:11.19 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: yeah but that should be automagically detected in the future so it's not going to remain as that |
| 17:11.41 | ZogG_laptop | too recent =\ |
| 17:11.43 | ZogG_laptop | damn =( |
| 17:12.06 | tgalal | the number |
| 17:12.11 | tgalal | beside too recent |
| 17:12.18 | tgalal | it's the number of minutes u should wait |
| 17:12.21 | tgalal | till next try |
| 17:12.27 | TMavica | fail too recent i got |
| 17:12.38 | tgalal | TMavica: voice ? |
| 17:13.04 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: btw for voice is the same |
| 17:13.09 | TMavica | success attached 309.. |
| 17:13.23 | tgalal | TMavica: got a call ? |
| 17:13.24 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: one hour more when i waited for so long and have app ??? =P |
| 17:13.35 | TMavica | no |
| 17:13.55 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: what is "if everything failed? |
| 17:14.11 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: then ur out of luck lol |
| 17:14.13 | TMavica | fail to recent: 59 |
| 17:14.20 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: numbers are getting down and than they are increased |
| 17:14.34 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: but what does it do? |
| 17:14.48 | tgalal | tgalal: what's that? |
| 17:14.56 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: what's that/ |
| 17:14.57 | tgalal | ? |
| 17:15.12 | ZogG_laptop | the button "everything failed? Try me" |
| 17:15.54 | tgalal | it's a fallback that would work if you registered before on this phone |
| 17:16.06 | tgalal | 400 downloads, any signs of successful registrations ? |
| 17:21.18 | bef0rd | I was already registered |
| 17:21.19 | bef0rd | :P |
| 17:22.47 | tgalal | lol |
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| 17:23.08 | ZogG_laptop | 37 minutes to wait |
| 17:23.12 | tgalal | well for 400 downloads, I guess we would have seen more compains on TMO thread |
| 17:23.18 | tgalal | complaints* |
| 17:25.09 | tgalal | oh 1 success |
| 17:25.09 | tgalal | cool |
| 17:25.10 | tgalal | lol |
| 17:25.17 | tgalal | which means it works :P |
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| 17:28.28 | TMavica | tgalal, so i need to wait 1 hr for next register? |
| 17:28.41 | tgalal | TMavica: if it said so, then yes |
| 17:28.55 | tgalal | delay is forced by the server |
| 17:29.10 | tgalal | "@tgalal well done !!! Registered without probs and already send first chat msg. Great work." |
| 17:29.11 | tgalal | awesome! |
| 17:29.45 | tgalal | so I guess it's not a bug |
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| 17:30.46 | bef0rd | I will have to patch the landscape qml again :p |
| 17:31.48 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: it's a feature |
| 17:33.33 | itsnotabigtruck | lol |
| 17:33.47 | itsnotabigtruck | sounds like the error messages need to be made more user-friendly |
| 17:34.44 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: true, you can't get everthing in first release |
| 17:35.55 | shanttu | installation failed and now i just have download-like icon with wazapp-text below. purged, reinstalled and rebooted several times. |
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| 17:37.15 | tgalal | shanttu: whats the error ? |
| 17:39.35 | shanttu | the basic "installation failed" when i used graphical installer ie launched from downloads. later i used dpkg and no errors. pressing icon doesn't do anything |
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| 17:58.49 | shanttu | still had to go to downloads and click there even if everything seemed to be set. working now. thanks for the app |
| 18:01.06 | tgalal | shanttu: awesome! |
| 18:01.18 | tgalal | shanttu: any problems with login, sending msgs ..etc ? |
| 18:05.51 | shanttu | tgalal, nope. login ok, sms received. |
| 18:09.46 | TMavica | why i got so many wazapp account in account setting...try reboot and see now |
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| 18:13.13 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: ok, registered, what is the push number? |
| 18:13.22 | ZogG_laptop | and what it should be? with code or without? |
| 18:20.10 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: it's used for push notifications for contacts with an iphone |
| 18:20.22 | tgalal | just set it to your name or sth |
| 18:22.23 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: so it |
| 18:22.29 | ZogG_laptop | it's not relevant |
| 18:22.40 | ZogG_laptop | till now noone answered |
| 18:23.01 | ZogG_laptop | so not sure if i can't get response or noone answers |
| 18:23.17 | tgalal | if you are getting yellow, or green circles |
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| 18:23.22 | tgalal | not just remains green |
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| 18:23.32 | tgalal | then no one is answering :) |
| 18:23.34 | ZogG_laptop | red->yellow->green |
| 18:23.47 | tgalal | this means it's working |
| 18:23.49 | ZogG_laptop | oh, got response |
| 18:23.52 | ZogG_laptop | =) |
| 18:23.57 | tgalal | awesome! |
| 18:27.00 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: what does yellow means and green? |
| 18:27.24 | ZogG_laptop | green is read? |
| 18:28.34 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: yellow is delivered to server, green is delivered to contact |
| 18:28.40 | tgalal | no read indicator |
| 18:31.52 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: but there was typing and deliver indicator before in video? or i'm wrong? |
| 18:32.01 | ZogG_laptop | or did you took it down coz of bugs? |
| 18:32.23 | tgalal | what part of " green is delivered to contact" did u not understand ? :P |
| 18:32.29 | tgalal | and typing is there |
| 18:32.36 | tgalal | nothing removed ;) |
| 18:33.03 | ZogG_laptop | delivered == have read it? |
| 18:33.08 | ZogG_laptop | oh, got it |
| 18:34.17 | ZogG_laptop | the indicators of messages are separete for contacts |
| 18:35.01 | ZogG_laptop | on one hand that is good, but on other — several same icons on lpm screen |
| 18:35.23 | ZogG_laptop | and if i have a lot of chats it would take whole screen =P |
| 18:38.26 | tgalal | what do u mean by indicators of messages ? |
| 18:38.45 | tgalal | 0.1.7 is out btw, update ;) |
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| 18:43.05 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: the msg icon on LPM screen |
| 18:43.15 | ZogG_laptop | and on lock screen |
| 18:46.25 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: bad that you put update — no you can't know if it's first download or update. |
| 18:46.30 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: how many for now? |
| 18:46.54 | tgalal | you mean can't know for the count ? |
| 18:46.56 | tgalal | I do know :P |
| 18:47.01 | tgalal | my script is smart :P |
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| 18:47.57 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: 2106 for 0.1.6, 200 for 0.1.7 |
| 18:48.55 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: how smart it can be? how would it know if i updated to 0.1.7 or downloaded it for the first time? |
| 18:50.47 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: separate counters? |
| 18:51.09 | bef0rd | I think ZogG_laptop means about duplicate downloads |
| 18:51.09 | tgalal | there are some processing that happens before download start ;) |
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| 18:51.12 | ZogG_laptop | not everyone would update i think for a while |
| 18:51.22 | tgalal | ahh |
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| 18:51.46 | tgalal | got ur point |
| 18:51.47 | ZogG_laptop | few just got it and gone |
| 18:52.00 | bef0rd | I downloaded .16 and .17 so, that would be 2 for 1 user. he could get the ip and just cound unique download per ip |
| 18:52.09 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: the bug was worth it though |
| 18:52.41 | tgalal | bef0rd: except that, I don't lol |
| 18:52.52 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: would you go for apps4meego or ovi? |
| 18:52.58 | bef0rd | well apache does it anyway |
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| 19:03.45 | HKisd | I'm getting Segmentation fault with 0.1.7. (also did install 0.1.6, but uninstalled it before registering since 0.1.7 was available) POPULATE, RESYNCING , init load convs, Segmentation fault |
| 19:04.47 | tgalal | HKisd: can u pastebin exact output ? |
| 19:07.23 | HKisd | ok, i'll do that within 5 mins |
| 19:08.06 | tgalal | thanks |
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| 19:35.43 | HKisd | for some reason I was not able to redirect all output to file. but stderr output is at http://pastebin.com/WmiZi3DF complains about aegis tokens. btw my device has open mode kernel |
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| 19:43.44 | tgalal | HKisd: how are you running it ? |
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| 19:47.47 | HKisd | for the log I tried: /opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/wazapp > /home/user/MyDocs/wazapplog 2>&1 |
| 19:47.51 | HKisd | as normal user |
| 19:49.55 | HKisd | also crashes after few seconds if I just click the icon. it might be that there was some error during installation. 0.16 installation failed once. on next try it went through |
| 19:54.29 | tgalal | HKisd: well it seems for some reason it's not granted required permission by aegis |
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| 20:27.21 | tgalal | one more update |
| 20:27.34 | tgalal | now we never now the real counts lol |
| 20:27.42 | tgalal | know* |
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| 20:31.48 | Myname24 | Hey @tgalal I have 7 wazapp accounts in accounts app ? How can i remove them ? |
| 20:32.04 | tgalal | Myname24: how did that even happen? |
| 20:33.07 | Myname24 | It failed to register mutiple time |
| 20:33.51 | tgalal | I see |
| 20:33.56 | tgalal | what happens if you open an account? |
| 20:34.00 | tgalal | there should be a menu --> delete |
| 20:34.05 | Myname24 | But now it worked but when i checked accounts it was full of wazapp accounts |
| 20:34.56 | Myname24 | Yes i am deleting right now |
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| 20:38.46 | Myname24 | Thanks it worked :) and is there a way to disable vibration ? |
| 20:41.21 | tgalal | Myname24: currently no I guess |
| 20:41.24 | tgalal | one bit at a time :) |
| 20:46.28 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: well, are you requesting the right aegis permissions for your app? |
| 20:46.49 | itsnotabigtruck | if so, on which file |
| 20:46.57 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: well obviously it's working with all other users, so yes |
| 20:47.01 | tgalal | 1 sec |
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| 20:47.21 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: works for me fine |
| 20:47.45 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: /opt/waxmppplugin/bin/waxmppplugin, /opt/waxmppplugin/bin/waxmppaccount, /opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/wazapp |
| 20:48.32 | itsnotabigtruck | hm |
| 20:48.39 | itsnotabigtruck | how is /opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/wazapp invoked |
| 20:48.55 | itsnotabigtruck | and what is it exactly |
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| 20:54.03 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: python script |
| 20:55.10 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: how is it going ? |
| 20:55.38 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: but how is it invoked |
| 20:55.39 | ZogG_laptop | tgalal: fine, what is the new update? |
| 20:55.44 | itsnotabigtruck | and does it have a shebang line |
| 20:56.21 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: yeah i want to see code there too, to understand how ad what he did with accounts |
| 20:56.56 | tgalal | ZogG_laptop: connection crashed permanently when someones added u to a group |
| 20:57.39 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: yeah it has shebang, it's invoked via /usr/bin/invoker --type e /opt/waxmppplugin/bin/wazapp/wazapp |
| 20:57.59 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: ok, test it with and without invoker |
| 20:58.03 | itsnotabigtruck | it should work either way |
| 20:58.12 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: it does |
| 20:58.18 | itsnotabigtruck | but it's easy to screw up and make it so it doesn't |
| 20:59.16 | tgalal | itsnotabigtruck: what do u mean? |
| 20:59.45 | itsnotabigtruck | well, for example, if you write a shell script without a shebang line, and give it aegis credentials |
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| 21:00.05 | itsnotabigtruck | if your run it though invoker -te, it'll inherit the credentials, and if you run it directly, it won't |
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| 21:00.46 | itsnotabigtruck | *if you run which causes a lot of mystery bugs for devs that aren't paying attention to what's actually going on |
| 21:01.04 | itsnotabigtruck | but that shouldn't happen with a python script with a shebang line |
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| 21:03.15 | tgalal | cool |
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| 23:14.20 | rzr | http://wiki.maemo.org/Summer%2712_Device_Program |
| 23:22.44 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ^ |
| 23:23.08 | ZogG_laptop | you still have no N9 |
| 23:25.04 | MohammadAG | nope, but I have an N950 so I don't consider myself eligible |
| 23:30.01 | itsnotabigtruck | not sure i like > 25 devices for existing community apps being published at the Nokia Store. |
| 23:30.08 | itsnotabigtruck | and i'm not sure what the qt 5 item means in practice |
| 23:31.14 | itsnotabigtruck | imo publishing via the nokia store is inherently contradictory to "community" anything |
| 23:31.16 | MohammadAG | thinking of selling the lumia and getting an N9 |
| 23:31.27 | MohammadAG | heh, true that |
| 23:31.49 | MohammadAG | but hey, it made me implement a very intelligent and advanced update system |
| 23:31.49 | Elleo | my lumia only gets used for one thing and that's making videos of my n950 |
| 23:31.57 | Elleo | since its the only thing I have that focuses on the screen properly |
| 23:32.07 | MohammadAG | http://mohammadag.xceleo.org/sociality-mtf-version |
| 23:32.21 | MohammadAG | it focuses macro-ly well |
| 23:32.31 | MohammadAG | and its UI is fast |
| 23:32.44 | Elleo | I had intended to port a few things to it, but then I found that the platform was too restrictive to let me do any of the things I wanted; so it just sits around looking pretty |
| 23:33.27 | itsnotabigtruck | yeah, wp7's .net environment is intensely locked down |
| 23:33.49 | itsnotabigtruck | .net's actually pretty cool in many ways, but not the way it was implemented on wp7 |
| 23:33.49 | MohammadAG | this is awesome |
| 23:33.58 | itsnotabigtruck | where it's basically there entirely to restrict your access to the phone |
| 23:34.21 | Elleo | yeah, I couldn't even find a way to get it to let me check the battery level accurately to make a nice battery graphing app |
| 23:34.32 | itsnotabigtruck | it seems MS won against the hackers with wp7...wp7 hacking is basically dead on arrival these days |
| 23:34.37 | Elleo | let alone let me add ogg vorbis support in any meaningful way |
| 23:35.21 | itsnotabigtruck | there's a few things you can do but they aren't easy, or compatible with all WP7 models (including the lumia) |
| 23:35.33 | itsnotabigtruck | and windows ce's native environment is a horrible system to program for |
| 23:35.47 | itsnotabigtruck | it's really no fun at all |
| 23:35.57 | itsnotabigtruck | that's why the N9 having a full linux environment is so important |
| 23:37.15 | itsnotabigtruck | also MohammadAG: version 0.3 has 0.2 in the name? :p |
| 23:37.44 | itsnotabigtruck | you should make sure you secure it somehow so that a MITM can't pwn your phone with a bad deb |
| 23:37.45 | MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, I edited it to test the notification system :p |
| 23:37.54 | itsnotabigtruck | http + no signature = bad |
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| 23:41.25 | itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG ^ |
| 23:41.48 | MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, it's basic for now |
| 23:42.00 | MohammadAG | Harmattan handles the downloads, if it was me I'd md5 it |
| 23:42.27 | itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: don't use MD5 either :p |
| 23:43.31 | itsnotabigtruck | 3 ways i can think of to do it would be to |
| 23:44.07 | itsnotabigtruck | a) deliver the update info file over HTTPS, where your server's self-signed certificate is the only trusted certificate |
| 23:44.13 | itsnotabigtruck | the info file has a SHA256 hash of the deb |
| 23:44.47 | itsnotabigtruck | b) deliver the update info file over HTTP, with a GPG signature applied, where your server's GPG key is the only trusted key |
| 23:44.53 | itsnotabigtruck | the info file also has a SHA256 hash of the data |
| 23:44.57 | tgalal | I am benefitting from this conversation :) |
| 23:45.24 | itsnotabigtruck | or c) deliver the update info file over HTTP and skip the hash, but embed a signature of some sort into the deb and validate that |
| 23:45.32 | MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, mind making me a patch? :P |
| 23:45.34 | itsnotabigtruck | or d) don't do that altogether because it really isn't a very good idea |
| 23:45.36 | itsnotabigtruck | umm no |
| 23:45.46 | itsnotabigtruck | your app your problem >_> |
| 23:45.54 | MohammadAG | lol |
| 23:46.19 | itsnotabigtruck | btw apt does (b) |
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| 23:46.34 | itsnotabigtruck | aegis does (c) |
| 23:48.51 | itsnotabigtruck | tgalal: and well, you shouldn't...the entire point of a package manager is NOT having this stuff in every single app |
| 23:49.46 | MohammadAG | a package manager needs a sane repo |
| 23:49.52 | MohammadAG | which we still don't have |
| 23:50.01 | MohammadAG | so I've taken the deb path, which sucks, but heyu |
| 23:51.12 | itsnotabigtruck | then make sure to either dump it or secure it because unsecured updates are a pretty bad idea |
| 23:51.41 | itsnotabigtruck | i mean, is it a very realistic threat vehicle...probably not, but it is an obvious threat vehicle |