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| 00:39.27 | bef0rd | hi |
| 00:40.14 | DocScrutinizer | the obvious threat vector is your wife hiring a private eye who knows an IT specialist who provides the needed "malware" on a website, or on a USB stick or whateve, and your wife installing it on your phone while you're under the shower |
| 00:40.29 | DocScrutinizer | bet that with SHA256 |
| 00:40.33 | DocScrutinizer | beat* |
| 00:41.46 | DocScrutinizer | the whole idea of system based security is BS. The only proper security concept is a proper root password and an educated user |
| 00:43.42 | DocScrutinizer | oops, I was wrong. I forgot about the most common threat vector: noob users installing apps like wazap, because they are "free" |
| 00:44.31 | DocScrutinizer | the only proper security concept helps in that case just as well |
| 00:44.58 | GeneralAntilles | Burn the heathens. |
| 00:45.12 | DocScrutinizer | just harder to implement - users who deliberately use wazap etc are hard to educate |
| 00:45.47 | SpeedEvil | I secured my lumia 800 by placing it in a 2 foot block of concrete and dropping it into the marianas trench. |
| 00:46.15 | DocScrutinizer | best thing you can do with that device ;-D |
| 00:46.44 | GeneralAntilles | Noo! |
| 00:46.52 | GeneralAntilles | It's great for watching Netflix in bed. |
| 00:48.01 | SpeedEvil | No netflix in the UK |
| 00:48.14 | GeneralAntilles | To the trench it goes! |
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| 04:45.26 | khertan | Morning |
| 04:47.48 | khertan | MohammadAG: i ve finally found the perfect example of speed with an app made in Python and a similar one made in C++. Look at native slow twitter client on n9 , and Khweeteur on n900, Khweeteur is faster, not because python is faster than c++, but because Khweeteur have a better logic of caching things. Language speed is nothing ! (And use less memory also) |
| 04:47.51 | khertan | :) |
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| 04:54.08 | itsnotabigtruck | khertan: it would be even faster if you used C++, however |
| 04:54.20 | itsnotabigtruck | slow c++ < fast python < fast c++ |
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| 04:56.55 | khertan | itsnotabigtruck: probably not, as most time is used waiting user action, or in c++ libs of python :) |
| 04:57.15 | khertan | just the startup time will be faster |
| 04:57.54 | khertan | and in case of doing it in c++ i ll probably not get the time to implement all this cache optimizations |
| 04:58.15 | khertan | i use less time to code, so more time for the logic :) |
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| 05:01.47 | itsnotabigtruck | khertan: it's not about the percentage of time that the app is running that it's busy doing stuff |
| 05:01.51 | itsnotabigtruck | it's about *response time* |
| 05:01.55 | itsnotabigtruck | and performance is essential |
| 05:02.22 | itsnotabigtruck | 50 ms vs 400 ms after the user pushes a button is the difference between instant and sluggish |
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| 05:31.47 | antman8969 | testing |
| 05:47.11 | antman8969 | anyone else have trouble setting properties on the rootContext() lately? Cannot seem to get it to work on harmattan with or without booster |
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| 06:12.51 | jonni | antman8969: that depends if your using QApplication or QScoperPointer, there is a known bug that wizard makes buggy skeleton if you use QScopedPointer and try to use rootContext(). |
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| 06:13.33 | jonni | (which should be fixed on next qt creator release) |
| 06:23.46 | jonni | antman8969: there is workaround documented in here https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTCREATORBUG-6490 |
| 06:26.18 | antman8969 | jonni I've seen that, it was actually my own fault |
| 06:26.45 | antman8969 | I was using Q_DECL_EXPORT in place of Q_INVOKABLE |
| 06:27.01 | antman8969 | in addition, you apparently have to set context properties BEFORE setting a source file |
| 06:27.13 | antman8969 | two stupid mistakes that cost me hours... |
| 06:31.30 | jonni | ah |
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| 06:35.59 | susundberg | Hello, seems like my restore changed my /home/user permissions to 777 -> ssh refuces to work with rsa-key. Could somebody point out what the permissions should be? |
| 06:36.02 | susundberg | 700 ? |
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| 06:36.29 | susundberg | (device is N9, pr1.2) |
| 06:36.41 | Venemo_N950 | heh, morning |
| 06:36.48 | susundberg | good morning |
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| 07:55.59 | decibyte_ | i broke my n9 display. is it possible to enable vnc via some shell command? i got ssh access. |
| 08:01.14 | jonni | yes it is, search forums. |
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| 08:10.30 | decibyte_ | jonni: thanks |
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| 08:34.38 | Stecchino | djszapi: did you happen to package libqca2-plugin-ossl v2.0.0 for Harmattan? |
| 08:35.30 | Stecchino | version from nokia is 0.1~20070904-5+0m6 and qca 2.0.2-3 has problems loading it hence some crypto functions are failing |
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| 08:39.25 | djszapi | Stecchino: I am sorry, but I do not have time. |
| 08:39.38 | djszapi | Stecchino: I cannot recall all the packages I made, was above 100'ish :) |
| 08:40.04 | djszapi | I can take a look this weekend, if you that is fine. |
| 08:40.33 | Stecchino | djszapi: just give me a link to your OBS page and I'll search |
| 08:40.44 | Stecchino | So far no lunk on http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/all/ |
| 08:40.53 | Stecchino | I might package it myself |
| 08:41.17 | Stecchino | I just wonder why the official repo has such an ancient version |
| 08:47.38 | djszapi | Stecchino: cause updating unnecessarily is a maintenance overhead |
| 08:48.43 | Stecchino | djszapi: in this case it seems the old version is not working though. And libqca2-plugin-ossl was released a month after that package version. Might there be a license issue? |
| 08:49.29 | djszapi | Stecchino: sorry, but really deadline'ish here for Monday. |
| 08:49.34 | djszapi | I can take a look at this during the weekend. |
| 08:51.07 | Stecchino | djszapi: I'll keep you updated |
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| 09:07.00 | gabriel9|work | morning |
| 09:07.14 | gabriel9|work | anyone use mail for exchange with gmail? |
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| 09:27.49 | Stecchino | gabriel9|work: only for contacts |
| 09:28.43 | gabriel9|work | so if i add it, do i need gmail also for chat? |
| 09:29.28 | Stecchino | no, that is with the google accounts plugin |
| 09:29.55 | Stecchino | sad that not all G services are covered by google accounts plugin |
| 09:30.08 | Stecchino | technically it's possible |
| 09:31.53 | Stecchino | Hoe comfortable are people discussing Harmatan development (platform and official apps, i.e. Nokia internal) these days. Many of us are ex-nokia externals right? It's been over a year and since PR1.2 all has been shut down AFAIK. |
| 09:32.37 | Stecchino | Guess the NDA still holds, but think it would be nice if we can keep Harmattan going in the community |
| 09:33.04 | Stecchino | well, topic is clear |
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| 09:38.44 | gabriel9|work | well |
| 09:38.56 | gabriel9|work | we should keep HArmattan in Comunity |
| 09:39.01 | gabriel9|work | it's nice |
| 09:39.03 | gabriel9|work | :) |
| 09:39.11 | Stecchino | We could it we massively broke NDA :) |
| 09:39.12 | gabriel9|work | and i got C++ book :D |
| 09:39.16 | SpeedEvil | :/ |
| 09:39.17 | Stecchino | Does nokia still carE? |
| 09:39.30 | gabriel9|work | who needs Nokia |
| 09:39.33 | gabriel9|work | we have devices |
| 09:39.36 | gabriel9|work | and source :) |
| 09:39.44 | gabriel9|work | all i need is some knowladge |
| 09:39.48 | gabriel9|work | from C++ |
| 09:39.48 | Stecchino | yeah, source under NDA |
| 09:39.56 | gabriel9|work | NDA is? |
| 09:40.05 | Stecchino | Non disclosure agreement |
| 09:40.14 | Stecchino | If you don't know you never signed it |
| 09:40.33 | Stecchino | and #N9 might be better for your general questions to be frank |
| 09:40.36 | gabriel9|work | i heard about it but don't know what is it |
| 09:40.50 | SpeedEvil | It would be awesome if there was a massive source release. |
| 09:41.01 | SpeedEvil | Unfortunately, leaks are less clear. |
| 09:41.19 | Stecchino | Won't happen unfortunately. There is no business case for opening Harmattan |
| 09:41.44 | Stecchino | at least not for Nokia :) I would have. |
| 09:41.59 | gabriel9|work | so they don't want it |
| 09:42.01 | SpeedEvil | If Nokia was doing ongoing development, the harm to community relations could be mentioned. |
| 09:42.07 | gabriel9|work | and they dont wwant to give it :D |
| 09:42.50 | SpeedEvil | So absenting the legal question - is it likely to harm potential Meltmi openness. |
| 09:42.58 | jonni | and there are some patent and ipr reasons too why some sources cannot be released. |
| 09:43.01 | Stecchino | as far as I know all the Nokia devs that stayed are now working on M |
| 09:44.54 | gabriel9|work | And Meltemi is new OS :/ |
| 09:44.58 | gabriel9|work | i dont get it |
| 09:45.18 | gabriel9|work | they have one OS and they create another |
| 09:45.46 | SpeedEvil | You missed 'throwing away any minimal inertia in the marketplace they had' |
| 09:46.14 | gabriel9|work | yea that also |
| 09:46.22 | SpeedEvil | Meltmi is going to face a hell of an uphill struggle. |
| 09:46.47 | gabriel9|work | and it is lov end |
| 09:46.55 | SpeedEvil | It would have been interesting to see the results if Nokia had released N901 a year on from n900 with a modest hardware refresh, and continued SW devel. |
| 09:46.59 | gabriel9|work | 40% of people in US have smartphone |
| 09:47.03 | SpeedEvil | Indeed. |
| 09:47.20 | gabriel9|work | all wan't bigger faster better phones now |
| 09:47.36 | gabriel9|work | i don't know anyone who will buy some cheap slow phone :/ |
| 09:48.05 | gabriel9|work | well nice talking with you |
| 09:48.24 | gabriel9|work | now back to work :) there is some new ideas i want to try |
| 09:48.26 | gabriel9|work | see ya |
| 10:01.05 | ArkanoiD_ | am i right that there is just no way to associate twitter username with address book contact manually and if the obscure heuristic failed, that's it? |
| 10:03.58 | gabriel9|work | as i know there is no way to merge them |
| 10:04.04 | gabriel9|work | maybe in 1.3 :) |
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| 11:14.32 | Jaffa | ArkanoiD_: I haven't checked through the API, but at least when exposed as a VCard, it doesn't seem to be present. |
| 11:15.08 | Jaffa | Also, VCards have got pictures encoded as multi-100KB PNGs. This might explain Contacts' slowness (when they're only ever shown as 80x80ish) |
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| 12:57.49 | ZogG_laptop | lol |
| 12:58.25 | ZogG_laptop | i got message from moderator on TMO on personal attack on thread |
| 12:58.36 | ZogG_laptop | the funny thing it is deleted |
| 12:58.53 | ZogG_laptop | so probably it was one of the stupid "make me app" posts |
| 13:04.11 | thp | if anybody wants to be added as member to the https://github.com/harmattan project, please ping me - would be nice to have some harmattan apps in a central place :) |
| 13:06.30 | ZogG_laptop | thp: hmm, what about apps4meego? |
| 13:07.13 | thp | apps.formeego doesn't have scm afaik, and ideally the apps on that github organization should be published on apps.formeego.org |
| 13:07.38 | thp | maybe even automatically, apparently obs can build out of a git repository |
| 13:07.48 | Elleo | it'd be nice if appsformeego had a way to associate a git/bzr/svn/hg/whatever repository with an app |
| 13:07.49 | ZogG_laptop | thp: i would like to be added, but not that much dev |
| 13:07.57 | Elleo | so you could see a "Get source" link for each app |
| 13:08.05 | ZogG_laptop | thp: funkycode |
| 13:09.10 | thp | ZogG_laptop: you should have access now |
| 13:09.44 | ZogG_laptop | thp: thanks |
| 13:09.45 | thp | Elleo: yep, one point of that harmattan repository would be that some apps' git repos would be published there for easier discoverability |
| 13:10.20 | Elleo | thp: yeah, but integration in apps for meego would make discoverability easier for apps that aren't hosted on github |
| 13:10.37 | thp | that's true |
| 13:10.58 | Elleo | most of my stuff tends to end up on either launchpad or gitorious nowdays, depending on if its a bzr or a git project |
| 13:11.35 | Elleo | pushing the gitorious stuff to a github repo wouldn't be a massive extra chore, but going from bzr <-> github would be |
| 13:13.13 | ZogG_laptop | thp: it's public right? |
| 13:13.15 | Siva | thp: could you add me as well.. |
| 13:13.49 | ZogG_laptop | i think i need to push my app there, but on other side, there are tokens there oauth |
| 13:14.03 | thp | ZogG_laptop: you could push via ssh+key |
| 13:14.12 | thp | Siva: sure, just tell me your github username |
| 13:14.36 | Siva | thp: that would be sivabalan |
| 13:15.55 | thp | Siva: done |
| 13:16.41 | Siva | thp: ty! |
| 13:18.41 | MohammadAG | thp, me me me! :P |
| 13:18.59 | MohammadAG | oh wait, *asks self* do I have a github account...? |
| 13:19.51 | MohammadAG | meh, it costs $0/month |
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| 13:19.53 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: you are gitorious guy? |
| 13:19.54 | MohammadAG | now if it was free.. |
| 13:20.03 | ZogG_laptop | lol |
| 13:20.31 | MohammadAG | thp, MohammadAG |
| 13:20.37 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop, yes, problem? |
| 13:20.38 | MohammadAG | :P |
| 13:20.39 | thp | MohammadAG: github is free for public repos |
| 13:20.58 | MohammadAG | thp, no, it clearly says $0/month, not free |
| 13:21.05 | MohammadAG | buys thp a sarcasm detector |
| 13:21.53 | thp | MohammadAG: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF7MroTLDfU |
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| 13:22.40 | thp | just hold up that sarcasm sign |
| 13:24.23 | MohammadAG | lmfao |
| 13:25.19 | RST38h | yawns |
| 13:25.26 | RST38h | EHLO thp, MohammadAG |
| 13:25.34 | MohammadAG | ehlo RST38h |
| 13:25.47 | thp | ahoy RST38h :) |
| 13:25.51 | merlin1991 | holds up a sarcasm sign for no apparent reason |
| 13:26.04 | MohammadAG | thp, I signed up on github, same nick |
| 13:32.17 | thp | MohammadAG: added |
| 13:32.40 | MohammadAG | thp, thanks :) |
| 13:33.09 | merlin1991 | MohammadAG: I assume you'll put sociality n there? |
| 13:34.39 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: you don't say so |
| 13:35.32 | ZogG_laptop | thp: i see you ported classic print |
| 13:35.49 | thp | ZogG_laptop: just a quick initial port, nothing fancy |
| 13:36.38 | ZogG_laptop | thp: hope to see it on apps4meego =) |
| 13:36.43 | ZogG_laptop | for tests |
| 13:37.29 | thp | sure! but it needs a bit more work (better icon and better load times, see the TODO file in the repo) |
| 13:46.17 | ZogG_laptop | =) |
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| 13:47.53 | ZogG_laptop | thp: what does publicize does on organizations on github, i see the button near my nick |
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| 13:50.29 | thp | ZogG_laptop: if you publicize, it will show your username on github.com/harmattan when nobody is logged in |
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| 13:52.37 | ZogG_laptop | 2םלת אישמלד |
| 13:52.43 | ZogG_laptop | ok, thanks |
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| 14:40.30 | djszapi | how is the variant property type in qml supposed to work for a list goal, like storing integers ? |
| 14:40.40 | djszapi | how can I bundle a list up into that ? |
| 14:42.11 | Appiah | If a device wont make outgoing calls, you reboot it , what logs should you be digging into? |
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| 15:06.26 | TMavica | tgalal ping |
| 15:06.45 | tgalal | TMavica: yow |
| 15:08.04 | TMavica | have you check out CepiPerez post |
| 15:08.11 | tgalal | link? |
| 15:08.31 | TMavica | he fully changed your wazapp UI and post a Zip file |
| 15:08.48 | TMavica | but he cant change the conversation |
| 15:08.51 | TMavica | in TMO |
| 15:09.06 | tgalal | really |
| 15:09.13 | TMavica | same contact UI as filebox |
| 15:09.14 | TMavica | yes |
| 15:09.18 | tgalal | let's see :D |
| 15:09.18 | TMavica | you check check |
| 15:09.24 | TMavica | I am using right now |
| 15:09.26 | TMavica | so nice |
| 15:09.27 | TMavica | lol |
| 15:09.36 | tgalal | whoa |
| 15:09.38 | tgalal | awesome |
| 15:10.07 | TMavica | LOL, he SAID he want change to bubble conversation too lor |
| 15:14.13 | tgalal | TMavica: thanks for the tip! |
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| 15:19.52 | *** topic/#harmattan is A place for harmattan device and development discussions | Customers help customers on #N9, hurry and you're the senior member | Please stay on topic and no NDA stuff here | Developers : http://library.developer.nokia.com/ | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page | logs: http://mg.pov.lt/harmattan-irclog/ | ~aegis-no-thanks | LATEST ~update |
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| 15:21.52 | djszapi | beford: do you have a qt project account ? |
| 15:25.51 | beford | dunno |
| 15:26.10 | beford | I *think* so |
| 15:26.18 | beford | it uses SSO right? I registered on the wiki |
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| 15:29.13 | djszapi | sso ? |
| 15:29.31 | beford | single sign on |
| 15:29.39 | beford | like the same account for all services under qt-project |
| 15:29.43 | djszapi | nothing else. |
| 15:29.46 | djszapi | there is a CLA signing, yes. |
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| 15:54.34 | djszapi | Does the Grid QML element support row and column spanning ? |
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| 16:53.39 | b0unc3 | hello |
| 16:54.12 | b0unc3 | to create an entry in the settings panel I've to create the dir /usr/share/duicontrolpanel/desktops/ ? |
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| 19:44.48 | rzr | khertan, u need that one http://nokians.fr/2012/05/lecran-du-nokia-lumia-900-mis-a-lepreuve-avec-un-marteau/ |
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| 19:45.57 | khertan | rzr: my n950 was dropped on floor 6 months ago and with only a minor scratch in the corner :) |
| 19:46.07 | khertan | but seems that it s the end today |
| 19:46.13 | rzr | khertan, yes that's why i read online |
| 19:46.14 | khertan | keep losing network |
| 19:46.25 | rzr | i would have resit if you were running wp7 |
| 19:46.36 | rzr | it ... |
| 19:46.56 | khertan | i selling the lumia 800 |
| 19:47.07 | khertan | two days after using it |
| 19:47.09 | khertan | hate that os |
| 19:47.24 | khertan | and need to buy new wheel for my car :) |
| 19:47.36 | khertan | more usefull than this shitty wp7 :) |
| 19:48.09 | khertan | my n950 seems have a cellular modem dying ... 22 reboot today to keep cellular network alive :( |
| 19:48.25 | khertan | will be time to look forward ... for an other plateform |
| 19:48.46 | khertan | or use that good old n900 maemo which are still doing notification on my desk |
| 19:49.18 | khertan | will not bought a phone whitout a physical keyboard |
| 19:49.31 | thp | khertan: actually the n9 virtual keyboard with the tactile feedback is quite good |
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| 19:50.24 | thp | khertan: combined with some intelligence built into khteditor, you are probably at least as productive as with a hwkb ;) |
| 19:50.25 | Khertan_n950 | at least wifi still working |
| 19:51.19 | Khertan_n950 | will be difficult |
| 19:52.05 | Khertan_n950 | and too much pain to do something with a qml textarea :( |
| 19:52.46 | thp | khertan: just implement your own textarea widget |
| 19:52.49 | Khertan_n950 | thp, did you know any device which have python on it and really support it ? |
| 19:53.11 | thp | Khertan_n950: well, to be honest, harmattan is the one that has first-class python support |
| 19:53.29 | thp | Khertan_n950: if you are looking for other things, android does have SL4A and i've experimented a bit with porting pyside to it |
| 19:53.39 | thp | Khertan_n950: http://thp.io/2011/pyside-android/ |
| 19:53.46 | Khertan_n950 | thp, i ve tryed to do own by using a qgraphicproxy widget but since pr1.1 segfault without apparent reason |
| 19:54.18 | thp | Khertan_n950: have you tried a different graphicssystem (-graphicssystem switch if you pass the command line args to QApplication)? |
| 19:54.21 | Khertan_n950 | a bit tired doing workarround for qml |
| 19:54.35 | thp | Khertan_n950: i'm sure it can be debugged somehow ;) |
| 19:54.48 | Khertan_n950 | thp, probably but don t found how |
| 19:54.55 | thp | Khertan_n950: btw. do you plan on going to europython? |
| 19:55.06 | Khertan_n950 | nope |
| 19:55.15 | Khertan_n950 | where it s this year ? |
| 19:56.10 | thp | florence |
| 19:56.55 | Khertan_n950 | did you go ? |
| 19:57.37 | djszapi | why would you port pyside ? |
| 19:57.57 | Khertan_n950 | did you lose sometime cellular network on your n950 without being able to recover it ? |
| 19:58.31 | Khertan_n950 | except with a reboot ? |
| 19:59.35 | dm8tbr | yes, seems to depend on network or SIM though |
| 19:59.59 | dm8tbr | happens from time to time on sonera, happens next to never on saunalahti |
| 20:00.38 | Khertan_n950 | it s happen 2 or 3 time a week ... but today i need to reboot 27 times |
| 20:00.52 | Khertan_n950 | could be a sim problem ? |
| 20:01.28 | Khertan_n950 | but didn t have such problem on n900 |
| 20:01.35 | thp | Khertan_n950: i'm going, yes |
| 20:01.46 | thp | djszapi: just for fun ;) |
| 20:02.56 | Khertan_n950 | thp: i ll maybe probably write a source hilighting editor with pygame this way will be fully portable :) |
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| 20:07.44 | thp | Khertan_n950: that'd be cool, yes :) |
| 20:08.32 | thp | or split the backend and the frontend - so that you could have the highlighting/editing backend + a pygame frontend and e.g. a qgraphicsview frontend |
| 20:09.56 | Khertan_n950 | yes with pygame i ll surely split back and frontend |
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| 23:04.48 | Elleo | urgh, QA don't like the fact that I have a version number as 1.06 and suggest 1.6 instead :/ |
| 23:08.09 | itsnotabigtruck | Elleo: afaik nokia wants everything to be 3 part numeric versions like |
| 23:08.15 | itsnotabigtruck | 1.6.0 |
| 23:08.33 | itsnotabigtruck | you can generally put whatever you want after that as long as it's a valid debian version |
| 23:08.46 | itsnotabigtruck | but it has to start with x.y.z |
| 23:08.55 | itsnotabigtruck | you can read the exact requirement in one of the ovi publishing docs |
| 23:09.01 | Elleo | I guess I'll change to 1.0.6 then |
| 23:09.17 | Elleo | was just trying to keep it consistent with the app versioning (its a port of a desktop thing) |
| 23:09.27 | itsnotabigtruck | lame |
| 23:09.33 | itsnotabigtruck | do you control the upstream? |
| 23:09.37 | Elleo | nope |
| 23:09.38 | itsnotabigtruck | you could switch the upstream also |
| 23:09.40 | itsnotabigtruck | ho ok |
| 23:09.51 | itsnotabigtruck | *oh |
| 23:11.11 | Elleo | well, I'll fix it in the morning; too tired now |
| 23:15.46 | MohammadAG | any MTF experts? |
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| 23:22.46 | rzr | MohammadAG, wtf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTF ? |
| 23:23.10 | MohammadAG | I find it annoying I have to explain what mtf is |
| 23:23.12 | MohammadAG | ~mtf |
| 23:23.12 | infobot | A Microsoft Tape Format reader. URL: ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/backup/mtf-0.1.src.tgz. MeeGoTouchFramework, a deprecated framework that's miles faster than QML |
| 23:23.40 | rzr | ah that one :) |
| 23:23.51 | rzr | you meant mtf |
| 23:29.55 | beford | I dont know why deprecated MTF |
| 23:30.04 | beford | it barely had a life .. |
| 23:31.16 | MohammadAG | well, Harmattan uses it in most stuff |
| 23:31.41 | MohammadAG | and the whole OS is deprecated |
| 23:32.33 | beford | long live harmattan |
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| 23:45.13 | MohammadAG | how exactly do I add http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/nokia-binaries/ |
| 23:50.25 | rzr | there is a passwd in sources.list iicr |
| 23:52.46 | rzr | my mistake that one is for sb , device uses downloads.maemo.nokia.com |
| 23:55.12 | MohammadAG | I need libqmafw0-dev |
| 23:58.03 | MohammadAG | oh for fuck's sake why is Harmattan messed up for devs |
| 23:58.10 | rzr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.14 | rzr | deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/41667a5bd857be02f487c2ce806fbf85 nokia-binaries |