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| 08:57.57 | rigo | moin |
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| 09:05.37 | rigo | hi, is the N9 actually running an X-server? Can I redirect the display to the machine from which I ssh'ed into it? |
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| 09:12.21 | mgedmin | yes to the first question |
| 09:12.30 | mgedmin | 'uhh what' to the second one ;) |
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| 09:13.43 | Aard | rigo: you can't redirect x-displays as such once they're up; however, it's possible to run vnc on the n9 |
| 09:14.25 | Aard | or if you just want to have x forwarding for single applications: yes, that should work |
| 09:15.02 | rigo | Aard, the latter was my question. Normally, ssh does that automatically, but if I ssh into the N9 it doesn't |
| 09:15.19 | rigo | and now I wonder where to set the parameter |
| 09:17.56 | phako | rigo: did you try ssh -Y ? |
| 09:18.23 | rigo | ~ # organiser |
| 09:18.24 | rigo | MClassFactory already contains MViewCreator for GradientWidgetView |
| 09:18.26 | rigo | organiser: cannot connect to X server 192.168.1.114:0 |
| 09:18.49 | rigo | after ssh -Y -l user |
| 09:19.21 | phako | probably doesn't let you override the DISPLAY variable. |
| 09:19.30 | rigo | it would be huge if I could run the phone calendar app on my display |
| 09:20.11 | rigo | phako, I said export DISPLAY=192.168.1.114:0 (the classic thing) |
| 09:20.16 | rigo | and there it gave me the error |
| 09:20.38 | phako | that's not SSH display forwarding |
| 09:21.20 | phako | that's normal X network transparency |
| 09:21.41 | phako | and most of the X on modern distributions servers don't listen on TCP anymore |
| 09:21.45 | rigo | exactly and no traces in logs on the desktop (192.168.1.114) |
| 09:21.47 | phako | *X servers |
| 09:22.02 | phako | does it work if you don't set DISPLAY and let SSH do it's magic? |
| 09:22.45 | Aard | rigo: you need to enable TCP on your workstations X-server, than it should work. I just noticed that automagic x-forwarding via ssh does not work out of the box |
| 09:23.13 | rigo | yep, will do |
| 09:23.40 | Aard | rigo: just checked, the phone has no xauth. if you compile that for your n9 X-forwarding via ssh should work |
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| 09:24.02 | rigo | ah! |
| 09:24.19 | rigo | hey, somebody could do a paid app for that! |
| 09:24.31 | Aard | do you have scratchbox or sdk running? |
| 09:24.42 | rigo | sdk only running on the phone |
| 09:24.46 | Aard | wait |
| 09:24.50 | rigo | (dev mode) |
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| 09:25.31 | Aard | I'll check if I can just use the debian source package without much modifications |
| 09:25.55 | rigo | cute! |
| 09:25.57 | rigo | :) |
| 09:26.48 | Aard | you should be aware that using the application with mouse will be annoying, it's designed for finger/touchscreen usage |
| 09:28.42 | mankeli | sounds archaic |
| 09:29.33 | mankeli | i don't know how well all this is going to work since harmattan relies heavily on compositing |
| 09:29.53 | mankeli | but at least vnc works and it is available from nokia store :) |
| 09:29.59 | rigo | next question is that fenix is crashing if I try to change folder. I suspect that having installed Kontact-mobile changed some lib. I assume that re-installing fenix would fix it. But I wouldn't flash my phone for that! |
| 09:30.25 | rigo | mankeli, which vnc client do you use on the desktop/laptop then? |
| 09:31.28 | mankeli | tightvnc |
| 09:32.05 | rigo | so could also work with KRDC |
| 09:32.09 | Aard | rigo: apt-get install --reinstall should work for the fenix packages (kill pkgmgr process first if there are issues with locking) |
| 09:32.19 | mankeli | every vnc client should work |
| 09:33.01 | rigo | ha! I learned a lot today. Many thanks to both of you, will try that out (reinstall & vnc) |
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| 09:41.26 | Aard | rigo: http://aard.fi/xauth_1.0.7-1_armel.deb (untested, since my phone currently has problems connecting no nokia repository, for some reason) |
| 09:44.48 | rigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.11 | rigo | now created |
| 09:45.30 | Aard | it'll create it on first login, got my phone working again |
| 09:46.18 | Aard | it now sets up the x session, but overwrites the display again somewhere |
| 09:46.37 | Aard | ah, $ cat .profile |
| 09:46.37 | Aard | export DISPLAY=':0' |
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| 09:48.02 | rigo | I get cannot connect to X server 192.168.1.114:0 |
| 09:48.07 | rigo | have to fix desktop first |
| 09:48.39 | Aard | no, for ssh your desktop is fine. do you set the display manually somewhere? |
| 09:49.52 | rigo | Aard, I ssh into N9 with ssh -Y. When I start an application, it will start and display on the phone's screen |
| 09:50.10 | Aard | yes, because the profile is set to :0, just checknig |
| 09:50.19 | rigo | if I do export DISPLAY=192.168.1.114:0 I get cannot connect to X server 192.168.1.114:0 |
| 09:50.32 | Aard | yes, of course not, since that tries to go through tcp |
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| 09:53.09 | Aard | in /etc/profile and in .profile is "export DISPLAY=':0'", without that (which _might_ break some other things on the device, so changing that to testing if the display is already set would be best) X forwarding over ssh works, though you'll probably need to do additional stuff to get harmattan applications working that way |
| 09:54.54 | Aard | so unless you _really_ only want the calendar application VNC would be the best option (which, given you have recent firmware, can just be enabled in the developer mode application) |
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| 09:56.58 | rigo | Failed to create GL context for window surface, not able to recover |
| 09:57.00 | rigo | Aborted |
| 09:57.25 | rigo | works, but as you said, the applications are not adapted |
| 09:58.51 | Aard | I was using harmattan applications that way almost 2 years ago, but a lot has changed since then :) |
| 09:59.43 | rigo | korganizer-mobile actually displays, but is unusable because I can't manipulate anything. It is just full screen on one of my screens |
| 10:00.45 | rigo | it killed my mouse |
| 10:02.12 | Aard | I don't have a very high opinion of the kde stuff packaged for N9, so I'm not very surprised that you tell me fenix starts crashing after installing some parts of it |
| 10:03.00 | rigo | Aard, but it was so tempting as I was able to synchronize my Korganizer with a mobile phone for the first time ever |
| 10:03.24 | rigo | while I like the meego calendar, the synchronization is still tricky |
| 10:04.16 | Aard | rigo: that's unfortunately a political decision, the device is fully capable of speaking syncml over all important channel, it just does not provide an easy interface for the enduser to configure it for not officially supported services |
| 10:04.44 | Aard | though it would be possible to do a community app for setting up syncml profiles |
| 10:05.16 | rigo | to a certain extend, I can do with complex interfaces though. I will have to try |
| 10:05.58 | rigo | because the main reason people acquire an N9 (apart from being a nice device) is that you have a harmonized platform over laptop and phone both running linux |
| 10:06.49 | rigo | and sometimes I'm tempted to believe that this market is bigger than some people believe it is |
| 10:06.59 | Aard | yes, agree. the lack of easy syncml setup is a problem for me, too, I just never found the time to fix it |
| 10:07.14 | Aard | currently I'm still syncing to my n900, and then n900<>n9 |
| 10:07.53 | rigo | if you wanted to create jalousy that way, you succeeded :) |
| 10:08.39 | Aard | not really, I'd rather not have to rely on the old phone anymore |
| 10:08.46 | rigo | have to restart my X sesssion, without a mouse, it's not really convenient. I still have the mouse, but it is not displaying the pointer anymore :) |
| 10:08.55 | rigo | cu in a bit |
| 10:09.05 | Aard | that should be possible without restart |
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| 10:13.06 | Aard | rigo: you probably should've been able to get your cursor back with xsetroot, without restarting X, if you waited for me to finish typing |
| 10:14.50 | rigo | Aard, I actually haven't restarted X. I found out it was the korganizer-mobile icon still running in the panel that was still causing the mouse to disappear |
| 10:15.38 | rigo | and I did ^C not often enough |
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| 10:35.47 | rigo | Aard, the vnc - thing really works well! |
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| 11:28.05 | rigo | :(( I forgot to remove the # before Display='0' and now I bricked it |
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| 11:28.37 | rigo | any idea how I can acces/mount the storage to remve the # |
| 11:28.52 | rigo | s/remve/remove/ |
| 11:28.53 | Aard | rigo: define 'bricked' -- does not boot anymore? |
| 11:29.02 | rigo | yep |
| 11:29.10 | rigo | because I can't give the PIN code |
| 11:29.36 | Aard | devicelock pin, or sim pin? |
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| 11:30.07 | rigo | uhhh, don't know, I think sim pin |
| 11:30.45 | rigo | because devicelock would also be needed to get from locked (clock) to interface, right? |
| 11:30.54 | Aard | if you have device lock, yes |
| 11:31.03 | rigo | then only sim lock |
| 11:31.20 | rigo | I could remove the sim, right? |
| 11:31.32 | Aard | X is not starting at all? |
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| 11:31.57 | rigo | I can't tell, but I assume so, as I still see the boot splash |
| 11:32.19 | Aard | it's reachable by wifi? |
| 11:32.41 | rigo | no |
| 11:33.17 | Aard | remove sim, reboot, try if it becomes reachable by wifi |
| 11:33.20 | rigo | I plugged the USB and the device notifier doesn't react |
| 11:33.45 | Aard | yes, if the sim dialog won't show it's unlikely the usb moded dialog will show up -> you won't get there via usb |
| 11:34.28 | Aard | and, the part of the filesystem where .profile is is not exported as mass storage. did you edit .profile in users home, or the global one? |
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| 11:45.35 | Aard | rigo: tried? |
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| 11:57.13 | rigo | Aard, had lunch. tried but doesn't work |
| 11:58.09 | Aard | rigo: which profile did you edit -- /etc/profile, or /home/user/.profile? |
| 11:58.36 | rigo | both |
| 11:58.42 | rigo | that's the prob |
| 11:58.51 | rigo | if I can get hold of one, it would work again |
| 11:59.09 | rigo | and I didn't realize that there would be no console |
| 11:59.47 | Aard | I included the warning for a reason, I was expecting something like that |
| 12:00.04 | Aard | do you have backups? unbricking the phone is trivial, as long as you don't care about your data on it |
| 12:00.32 | rigo | sure I have backups |
| 12:00.46 | rigo | now telco :( job is calling ... |
| 12:00.50 | Aard | as in, copied off your phone to your computer |
| 12:01.11 | Aard | if yes, and there's nothing on your phone you need -> reflash including emmc. if not it'll be a bit trickier |
| 12:04.02 | Aard | rigo: if there's really nothing on your phone you need, follow this guide. if not, ping me later http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-flash-your-nokia-n9-and-bring-it-back-to-life/ |
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| 12:07.48 | dm8tbr | you can extract stuff from the phone |
| 12:08.00 | dm8tbr | flasher load a kernel :) |
| 12:08.39 | dm8tbr | the same way you can also reset MALF if you really care and want to go through the motions |
| 12:09.04 | Aard | dm8tbr: is there an easy guide for him? |
| 12:09.41 | dm8tbr | http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state |
| 12:10.25 | dm8tbr | keep in mind step 10 |
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| 12:11.02 | Aard | it's not MALF, it's editing profile causing X display to be wrong |
| 12:11.47 | dm8tbr | easier then. just fix profile in step 10, ignroe step 9 |
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| 12:52.31 | cityLights | I am seeking a way to interact with sqlite from the command line |
| 12:52.46 | cityLights | I see no sqlite package to install from the repository |
| 12:52.59 | cityLights | is there any other way |
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| 13:13.52 | rigo | dm8tbr, this is like linux recovery, not a big deal. But will it work also on a N9 and not only on N950? |
| 13:14.04 | rigo | at the same time, it may repair my borken fenix |
| 13:14.18 | rigo | if I flash |
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| 13:19.23 | Aard | rigo: kernel for n9/n950 is the same |
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| 13:26.44 | rigo | ok, in this case I try http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state first |
| 13:31.12 | jonni | cityLights: isnt there sqlite command avail in rootfs by default anyways? atleast Im using it from commandline, (but maybe Im wrong and have installed it from secret repo :)) |
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| 13:38.28 | rigo | dm8tbr, do you have a link for the linux flasher software used in http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state ? |
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| 13:40.45 | rigo | hm, only for debian. I don't have debian. See if I get it converted to opensuse |
| 13:41.57 | divan | Hi all. Does anyone know how to install PySide Assistant on Mac OS? |
| 13:44.45 | cityLights | jonni: no, what is the secret repo? |
| 13:45.02 | cityLights | I started looking in to using the python module to do it |
| 13:49.17 | dm8tbr | rigo: just extract the binary. should work |
| 13:59.54 | rigo | worked so far, loaded kernel, tried to connect to USB got a batch of Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy |
| 14:04.34 | rigo | and then flasher quits |
| 14:05.23 | rigo | wow, so little change and so much damage... will have to flash |
| 14:16.41 | rigo | I have a 059J1V4 What would be the best firmware to download? It actually offers to download also files called "simlock" which is strange to me |
| 14:19.09 | Aard | rigo: can you pastebin complete flasher output? |
| 14:27.18 | rigo | Aard, http://pastebin.ca/2153600 |
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| 14:29.18 | Aard | rigo: I haven't seen this before, but I'd guess that something on your box either automounts, or tries to activate network on it, blocking flasher -> disable automatisms on your box, try again |
| 14:29.42 | rigo | KDE! |
| 14:29.54 | Aard | haven't touched it since 0.99 :) |
| 14:30.06 | rigo | only started late, with 1.1 :) |
| 14:30.35 | Aard | I prefer working on machines without all that fancy automatic stuff, only causes problems |
| 14:31.32 | rigo | yep, but for my job, I need some of the fancy stuff. Nevertheless, I must admit that the fancy stuff went berserk lately |
| 14:32.04 | rigo | ok, means I have to shutdown everything and do that on the console |
| 14:37.42 | mankeli | rigo: the problem with recovely kernel is that it will put your phone to open mode, and since pr1.2 it stays that way - unless you flash the rootfs again |
| 14:38.32 | mankeli | and the problem of open mode is that they officially say that it does void any warranty at least theoretically |
| 14:38.49 | mankeli | it's not have been officially tried&tested |
| 14:38.56 | Aard | mankeli: if you just load the kernel? I doubt it |
| 14:38.57 | rigo | mankeli, nokia warranty, you must be kidding, right ? :) |
| 14:39.21 | mankeli | Aard: yup, since pr1.2 |
| 14:39.44 | rigo | see, they may decline contractual warranty, but not the legal one, which is more powerful anyway :) |
| 14:40.04 | Aard | mankeli: iirc open mode should show that warranty warning on every boot? which it does not on my n9 |
| 14:40.19 | mankeli | what does accli -I say? |
| 14:40.38 | mankeli | rigo: well okay, i don't know about that. only what the disclaimer screen says |
| 14:41.09 | Aard | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:41.09 | Aard | Current mode: normal |
| 14:41.25 | rigo | and most of the disclaimers you read are not valid in Europe anyway |
| 14:41.57 | mankeli | Aard: okay. mine kept in open mode after i loaded n950 recovery kernel once |
| 14:42.50 | Aard | you're sure you only loaded it? ;) |
| 14:46.29 | mankeli | of course it's pretty hard to say. exposing whole emmc as usb storage is quite subtle effect :) |
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| 16:24.26 | MohammadAG | umm |
| 16:24.34 | MohammadAG | how the fuck did I get my package to be com.nokia.maemo |
| 16:24.36 | MohammadAG | from the SDK |
| 16:24.54 | MohammadAG | itsnotabigtruck, ping |
| 16:25.34 | MohammadAG | mohammad@mohammad-i5laptop:~/led-event-notifier-build-harmattan-Qt_4_7_4__harmattan_10_2011_34-1_rt1_2__Release/debian/led-event-notifier/DEBIAN$ cat digsigsums && echo -n |
| 16:25.35 | MohammadAG | S 15 com.nokia.maemo H 40 HASH_KEY R 26 usr/bin/led-event-notifier |
| 16:25.43 | MohammadAG | HASH_KEY is there, not sure if I should paste it though |
| 16:29.42 | MohammadAG | this place is dead as fuck :p |
| 16:32.43 | petteri | living dead! |
| 16:33.19 | MohammadAG | but seriously, I think my SDK's broke, in a good way |
| 16:33.26 | MohammadAG | users won't need inception |
| 16:35.50 | Corsac | now you just need to package bash |
| 16:35.55 | Corsac | :) |
| 16:37.05 | beford | AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN=com.nokia.maemo ? |
| 16:37.52 | MohammadAG | beford, that's on device no? |
| 16:38.03 | MohammadAG | the file I cat'd is on my laptop |
| 16:38.17 | MohammadAG | the deb itself is com.nokia.maemo |
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| 16:39.37 | radiofree_ | MohammadAG: is that the same for all packages? |
| 16:40.18 | radiofree_ | and can you replace nokia packages with updates? |
| 16:40.24 | MohammadAG | S 15 com.nokia.maemo H 40 blablabla R 21 usr/bin/sociality-mtf |
| 16:40.38 | MohammadAG | given that, I'd say yes |
| 16:41.04 | radiofree_ | you are the chosen one ;) |
| 16:41.07 | rigo | Aard, dm8tbr, it worked. I had to blacklist cdc_phonet and phonet in /etc/modprobe.d/50-blacklist.conf |
| 16:41.22 | rigo | and now I can confirm that the MALF thingy puts it in open mode |
| 16:41.34 | rigo | now I have to learn what open mode means |
| 16:42.15 | rigo | is there a howto? a good howto on anything "open" would come from itsnotabigtruck |
| 16:42.18 | rigo | :) |
| 16:42.41 | Sazpaimon | Maybe I'm stupid but I cannot find the accounts-ui documentation online |
| 16:43.11 | MohammadAG | radiofree_, oh well, this helps me release led-event-notifier :p |
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| 16:43.37 | Aard | rigo: interesting, you only loaded the kernel, not flashed it? |
| 16:44.11 | rigo | I used the following command: sudo flasher --load -k vmlinuz-2.6.32.20112201-11.2-adaptation-n950-bootloader -n initrd.img-rescue-2.6.32.20112201-11.2-n950 --boot |
| 16:44.42 | rigo | then it exposed all the filesystems to root of the laptop and I was able to edit /etc/profile |
| 16:45.21 | rigo | but already when it loaded mass-storage, it said this would void warranty, which is kind of idiotic, legally spoken |
| 16:46.04 | rigo | but IT folks and their relation to legal stuff is another story that could fill a shelf of books :) |
| 16:46.29 | Aard | rigo: and you now have that warranty warning on every reboot? |
| 16:46.37 | rigo | yep |
| 16:47.15 | MohammadAG | I still don't get how to launch apps at bootup |
| 16:47.57 | rigo | put them in the QT autostart :) |
| 16:48.10 | rigo | would be the KDE solution ... |
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| 16:51.32 | Aard | MohammadAG: does putting stuff in /etc/xdg/autostart work? |
| 16:54.56 | MohammadAG | Package led-event-notifier: denied 'mce::LEDControl' -- origin '' does not allow it |
| 16:54.56 | MohammadAG | Package led-event-notifier: denied 'mce::LEDControl' for '/usr/bin/led-event-notifier' -- origin '' does not allow it |
| 16:55.01 | MohammadAG | well that was fun while it lasted |
| 16:58.26 | MohammadAG | Actually I don't get it |
| 16:58.42 | MohammadAG | S 15 com.nokia.maemo H 40 0907ab3ca2f689c4eb7d86fe73951e604cdff394 R 26 usr/bin/led-event-notifier |
| 16:58.42 | MohammadAG | S 15 com.nokia.maemo H 40 1f7dbbf0a3b461fc9169c9b8b5e547bf9a868990 R 42 var/lib/dpkg/info/led-event-notifier.prerm |
| 16:58.42 | MohammadAG | S 15 com.nokia.maemo H 40 053722a48d4180046249a711882428b30caa85a5 R 45 var/lib/dpkg/info/led-event-notifier.postinst |
| 16:58.46 | MohammadAG | but now dpkg bitches about it |
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| 17:10.39 | MohammadAG | accli test for mce::LEDControl fails, but it manages to activate the leds |
| 17:10.41 | MohammadAG | weird |
| 17:10.45 | MohammadAG | any volunteers? |
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| 17:32.03 | MohammadAG | WTF is 8822 nobody /usr/bin/led-event-notifier |
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| 18:00.24 | Sazpaimon | mardy, I'm taking you up on your offer to help answer some questions of mine regarding account plugins |
| 18:00.45 | Sazpaimon | even though that offer was 3 months ago |
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| 18:07.18 | jussi | hrm, how can I get to a "terminal" on the n950 via usb? ie. similar to ssh'ing in |
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| 18:09.10 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: accounts are mess |
| 18:09.10 | beford | usbnet + ssh ? |
| 18:09.15 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: what ya doing? |
| 18:09.40 | beford | Sazpaimon, mardy just rejoined you may have to repeat yourself :P |
| 18:09.47 | beford | ZogG_laptop, steam's IM client afaik |
| 18:09.54 | ZogG_laptop | oh |
| 18:10.01 | ZogG_laptop | right |
| 18:10.50 | ZogG_laptop | ok i gotta do what i gotta do // need to reboot into windows coz we are in 21th century and technology is so awesome that somethings just work with IE only |
| 18:10.53 | ZogG_laptop | daaaamn |
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| 18:12.03 | Sazpaimon | ZogG_laptop, basically, Im trying to make an account that requests an auth code after inputting your username/password |
| 18:12.12 | Sazpaimon | after that, it creates a telepathy connection manager |
| 18:12.23 | Sazpaimon | i have something basic written in all QML |
| 18:12.53 | Sazpaimon | but i dont like how it's looking, and was thinking it may be better to use accounts-ui stuff directly |
| 18:13.02 | Sazpaimon | but i can't really find a great deal of information on it |
| 18:13.12 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: because there are none |
| 18:13.25 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: but is it simple username/password one? |
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| 18:13.45 | ZogG_laptop | yu can check the code of extra plugins from coderus |
| 18:13.57 | jussi | beford: can you explain more? |
| 18:14.11 | Sazpaimon | ZogG_laptop, it's not a simple username/password, like I said, after feeding it that, it will need a verification code |
| 18:14.31 | ZogG_laptop | oauth |
| 18:14.32 | ZogG_laptop | token |
| 18:14.35 | ZogG_laptop | what is it? |
| 18:14.58 | Sazpaimon | neither, it sends a code to your email, which you enter in the application |
| 18:15.37 | Sazpaimon | so i assume I'll need to write some custom signon plugin for that, won't I |
| 18:16.07 | beford | wazapp is doing something similar Sazpaimon |
| 18:16.20 | Sazpaimon | wazapp uses accounts-python or some stuff |
| 18:16.29 | Sazpaimon | i have no intention of working with python |
| 18:16.37 | Sazpaimon | plus, the wazapp code isn't available iirc |
| 18:17.05 | Sazpaimon | I'm also pretty sure that wazapp uses QML as well |
| 18:18.03 | beford | jussi, enable developer mode and open the SDK app, then use usbnet and ssh |
| 18:18.04 | Sazpaimon | really I'm just trying to figure out what the best practices for this are, and what path my code should follow here |
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| 18:18.19 | Sazpaimon | instead of just adding a bunch of crap to the account manager |
| 18:18.33 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: make you have one for password and user and other for code |
| 18:18.37 | ZogG_laptop | two buttons |
| 18:18.45 | ZogG_laptop | one sends request one to approve the code |
| 18:18.59 | jussi | beford: ooohhh.. I guess i should go get the sdk on this pc... slaps himself. (duh) |
| 18:19.07 | Sazpaimon | the email code comes after you send the username and password |
| 18:19.17 | Sazpaimon | then you re-athenticate using that code |
| 18:19.18 | jussi | I wonder how long this is going to take on 3g :P |
| 18:19.23 | beford | jussi, no need for the SDK on the PC |
| 18:19.47 | beford | just enable developer mode on the phone, open the SDK app on the phone and select USB |
| 18:19.55 | jussi | oh, right, that easy. |
| 18:20.04 | beford | plug the phone, it should give you an ip address for usb networking |
| 18:20.16 | Sazpaimon | oh i asked for mardy after he quit |
| 18:20.19 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: the user part would be used to send request only, while you need to enter code after in field |
| 18:20.29 | jussi | beford: ok, Ill give it a go |
| 18:20.35 | ZogG_laptop | it's how it works in wazapp i think |
| 18:21.06 | Sazpaimon | would all this happen in the accountsetup plugin? |
| 18:21.18 | Sazpaimon | arent they just for UI stuff? |
| 18:21.28 | jussi | beford: any idea on the default username for ssh? |
| 18:21.34 | beford | developer |
| 18:21.46 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: depends on you imagination |
| 18:22.10 | ZogG_laptop | i don't know how steam works |
| 18:22.14 | ZogG_laptop | and where it uses code |
| 18:22.32 | jussi | beford: wow, that was easy. thanks! |
| 18:22.42 | beford | its some auth code I believe, once the account is set up there is no additinal need for the code, right Sazpaimon ? |
| 18:22.50 | beford | jussi, no problem |
| 18:22.51 | Sazpaimon | beford, correct |
| 18:23.32 | ZogG_laptop | he left |
| 18:23.43 | ZogG_laptop | beford: so it's code used once for approval only? |
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| 18:23.54 | ZogG_laptop | if that so than he should do it without |
| 18:24.09 | beford | well that's exactly what tgalal is doing on wazapp, except that he auto reads the auth code from SMS. |
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| 18:24.35 | beford | yea, he doesn't want to use python, but he could still ask tgalal about the api, or whatever he is using |
| 18:24.43 | beford | <beford> well that's exactly what tgalal is doing on wazapp, except that he auto reads the auth code from SMS. |
| 18:26.03 | beford | jussi, just fyi, to use root account, devel-su, default password is rootme. be carefull with the files you edit, editing protected files will require a reflash of the firmware |
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| 18:27.15 | jussi | beford: yeah, Ive played with it before and am familar, just didnt know about the usb connection. :) Thanks though. |
| 18:27.30 | Sazpaimon | mardy, when you come around ping me, I have a couple questions about account plugins I'm hoping you could answer |
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| 18:31.01 | beford | Sazpaimon, you found the accounts api, right? |
| 18:31.09 | Sazpaimon | beford, ueah |
| 18:31.12 | Sazpaimon | *yeah |
| 18:31.19 | beford | cool |
| 18:31.52 | Sazpaimon | right now what I have is a simple qml-based accountsetup plugin that just asks for a username and password, then sends that off to telepathy to create a connection |
| 18:33.19 | Sazpaimon | it doesnt implement the auth code right now, because it would need to do a manual API call outside of whatever the telepathy manager does, and I'm just trying to see what the best practices are for tat |
| 18:33.21 | Sazpaimon | *that |
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| 18:33.43 | Sazpaimon | because I could easily do that within the AccountSetup UI, but I don't think that's the way to go |
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| 18:58.40 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: do you need that code for auth or just to approve account? |
| 18:59.18 | ZogG_laptop | the question is if you need to keep it in account in order to connect and chat as well |
| 18:59.31 | ZogG_laptop | because i think what you need to do is not that hard |
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| 19:00.29 | Arkenoi | btw is there a hotkey to send a message in messaging app? after rotation tricks send button may vanish and i have to rotate it again to get it back.. |
| 19:00.31 | ZogG_laptop | it would be little be hard to manage data and so on, as i myself is little bit stuck there as i do keep token in account just didn't manage to get it inside app yet =) |
| 19:02.17 | Sazpaimon | ZogG_laptop, I need it to auth |
| 19:06.49 | MohammadAG | I might actually release led-event-notifier today |
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| 19:13.32 | ZogG_laptop | Sazpaimon: than do like i said |
| 19:13.51 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: for open kernel and inception only? |
| 19:14.20 | ZogG_laptop | though i do have inception |
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| 19:24.32 | MohammadAG | ZogG, it worked without inception an hour ago |
| 19:24.35 | MohammadAG | now doesn't |
| 19:24.40 | MohammadAG | guess it was a bug in the SDK |
| 19:24.51 | beford | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.59 | MohammadAG | or I'm not longer the chosen one |
| 19:25.01 | MohammadAG | no* |
| 19:25.08 | MohammadAG | beford, my package is com.nokia.maemo |
| 19:31.03 | beford | heh yea, I read it earlier |
| 19:35.01 | MohammadAG | but it's not working now |
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| 19:51.45 | MohammadAG | it's working without inception |
| 19:52.02 | MohammadAG | although dpkg bitched about it |
| 19:52.07 | MohammadAG | anyone wanna test it? |
| 19:52.20 | beford | risks of blowing out the led? |
| 19:53.11 | beford | I can try it on a n9 |
| 19:53.45 | MohammadAG | sec, lemme just see why autofreaking start doesn't work |
| 19:54.28 | MohammadAG | meh |
| 19:54.33 | MohammadAG | it's cause the running user is nobody |
| 19:54.38 | MohammadAG | it can't connect to DBus I guess |
| 19:54.40 | MohammadAG | 12050 nobody /usr/bin/led-event-notifier |
| 19:54.55 | MohammadAG | I fucking hate aegis |
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| 19:59.39 | MohammadAG | thp, ping |
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| 20:31.56 | thp | MohammadAG: pong |
| 20:32.18 | thp | MohammadAG: source /etc/profile maybe? |
| 20:32.21 | thp | and/or set DISPLAY |
| 20:33.50 | thp | MohammadAG: make sure your binary has aegis UID:user permissions via the aegis manifest |
| 20:34.00 | thp | MohammadAG: and then in the init script, do: exec /usr/bin/aegis-exec -s -u user /bin/sh -c "source /etc/profile && exec /path/to/your/app" |
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| 21:08.02 | itsnotabigtruck | MohammadAG: peculiar |
| 21:08.08 | itsnotabigtruck | are you still around? i'm guessing no |
| 21:08.38 | MohammadAG | Yes, just got back actually |
| 21:08.53 | MohammadAG | thp, I'll try that |
| 21:09.05 | MohammadAG | thp, I already set DISPLAY |
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| 21:10.43 | MohammadAG | 12320 nobody /usr/bin/led-event-notifier |
| 21:11.49 | thp | MohammadAG: does it have UID::user, GID::users and GRP::users credentials from aegis? |
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| 21:21.03 | MohammadAG | thp, yes |
| 21:21.11 | MohammadAG | <request policy="add"> |
| 21:21.11 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.11 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.11 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.11 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.21 | thp | for that specific binary, yes? |
| 21:21.33 | MohammadAG | yeah |
| 21:21.38 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.38 | MohammadAG | <for path="applauncherd-launcher::/usr/bin/applauncherd.bin" id="" /> |
| 21:21.38 | MohammadAG | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:21.48 | thp | hmm |
| 21:21.56 | thp | not sure if you need that applauncherd-launcher:: there |
| 21:22.26 | thp | also i don't have the policy="add" attribute in my <request>, and it still works - not sure if it hurts to add it, though |
| 21:24.04 | thp | MohammadAG: and the aegis-exec line is also like the one i pasted above? |
| 21:24.42 | MohammadAG | exec /usr/bin/aegis-exec -s -u user /bin/sh -c "source /etc/profile && exec /usr/bin/led-event-notifier" |
| 21:25.38 | thp | did you try rebooting or restarting the service / reinstalling the notifier package? |
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| 21:26.59 | MohammadAG | yes |
| 21:27.25 | thp | slowly running out of ideas here.. |
| 21:28.12 | thp | and led-event-notifier has mode 0755 and owner root:root? |
| 21:29.19 | MohammadAG | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 76620 May 25 00:22 /usr/bin/led-event-notifier |
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| 21:36.28 | thp | MohammadAG: maybe removing <for path="/etc/init/apps/led-event-notifier.conf and <for path="applauncherd-launcher::/usr/bin/applauncherd.bin could help? |
| 21:37.35 | thp | could be that aegis ignores your request, because some paths listed don't belong to your package (applauncherd) or are not executable (the upstart script) |
| 21:38.34 | MohammadAG | tries again |
| 21:38.46 | MohammadAG | but I checked restok.conf |
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| 22:19.53 | gabriel9 | evening |
| 22:20.08 | gabriel9 | why can't i use QNetworkAccessManager in my app |
| 22:20.25 | gabriel9 | i need some class for XML parsing and getting |
| 22:20.34 | gabriel9 | data from server |
| 22:21.20 | gabriel9 | and i try to write it in C++ |
| 22:22.51 | Elleo | gabriel9: what's stopping you from using QNetworkAccessManager? |
| 22:24.36 | gabriel9 | on compile it complains that there is no souch directory |
| 22:24.49 | Elleo | did you add it to the .pro file? |
| 22:25.05 | Elleo | oh no, you shouldn't need to fo qnetworkaccessmanager actually |
| 22:25.17 | Elleo | are you sure you're importing the header correctly? |
| 22:25.31 | Elleo | it's #include <QtNetwork/QNetworkAccessManager> not just <QNetworkAccessManager> |
| 22:26.03 | gabriel9 | wait while i try that :) |
| 22:26.34 | Elleo | although maybe if you add "network" to the .pro file it might add QtNetwork to the include paths or something |
| 22:26.57 | gabriel9 | well one year ago i created feed reader for myself |
| 22:27.19 | gabriel9 | but now when i try to use some code in my app for N9 it does not work |
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| 22:27.30 | gabriel9 | i forgot alot :( |
| 22:27.50 | Elleo | well this uses qnetworkmanager without any issues, so feel free to just copy what I do: https://gitorious.org/eyrie/eyrie/trees/master/src |
| 22:27.57 | Elleo | qnetworkaccessmanager* |
| 22:29.10 | gabriel9 | is that app for songs? |
| 22:29.17 | gabriel9 | to get name and that stuff |
| 22:29.36 | Elleo | yeah |
| 22:29.53 | gabriel9 | nice app :) |
| 22:29.56 | Elleo | thanks :) |
| 22:30.06 | gabriel9 | N9 have some really apps now |
| 22:30.16 | ieatlint | haha, my app in ovi got a bad review... the app, while only released in english and labeled explicitly for north america, got a 1 star review in russian stating the "The application is not for Russia" |
| 22:30.36 | Elleo | heh |
| 22:30.40 | ieatlint | nokia store comments are like reading youtube comments |
| 22:30.43 | Elleo | ovi reviews are terrible |
| 22:30.43 | Elleo | yeah |
| 22:30.56 | gabriel9 | yes |
| 22:31.01 | gabriel9 | i never read them |
| 22:31.11 | Elleo | I have a one star review in russian that according to google translate just says "I don't know what this does" |
| 22:31.18 | gabriel9 | :D |
| 22:31.24 | ieatlint | eh, it's a free app, so it's not hurting me and i'm just laughing |
| 22:31.53 | ieatlint | hehe, yeah, another app of mine has reviews in russian that claim i'm stealing credit card numbers |
| 22:32.02 | Elleo | :/ |
| 22:32.10 | ieatlint | damn russians :P |
| 22:32.30 | ieatlint | next time i publish an app i'll specify it shouldn't be distributed in russia |
| 22:32.31 | Elleo | for some reason my statusnet client gets most of its downloads in Saudi Arabia |
| 22:32.52 | Elleo | I'm not sure if there's some secret Saudi statusnet install that I'm unaware of or what |
| 22:33.06 | Elleo | but they're certainly not using it for identi.ca |
| 22:33.57 | ieatlint | yeah, i get a lot of downloads from there aswell |
| 22:34.43 | Elleo | I guess some people just download everything |
| 22:34.49 | gabriel9 | i do some research about mobile apps and people are just strange |
| 22:34.54 | gabriel9 | they like to install apps |
| 22:35.12 | gabriel9 | if it's free they will install it, even when they don't need it :) |
| 22:35.23 | ieatlint | shrugs |
| 22:35.29 | ieatlint | guess it doesn't hurt their phone |
| 22:36.45 | gabriel9 | i don't have many apps |
| 22:37.04 | gabriel9 | i need to create some for my needs :/ |
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| 22:37.35 | ieatlint | that's basically what i do, and then i get around to polishing them on occasion and publish them |
| 22:39.04 | gabriel9 | that's nice, problem with me is that C++ is not my number one language :/ |
| 22:39.13 | gabriel9 | web developer... |
| 22:39.42 | Elleo | you could do something with cortardo (phonegap), some people might yell at you though :P |
| 22:40.17 | gabriel9 | i yell on my colegue becouse of it :D |
| 22:40.22 | Elleo | heh |
| 22:40.25 | gabriel9 | i always say use native |
| 22:42.37 | gabriel9 | ping frals |
| 22:43.40 | gabriel9 | he is not here, so any of you plays Diablo 3 |
| 22:44.06 | gabriel9 | is it worth that money? |
| 22:49.32 | ieatlint | yeah, i prefer native... still on the fence about the whole qml thing |
| 22:51.09 | gabriel9 | Qml is better then XML |
| 22:51.15 | gabriel9 | and it is nice idea |
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| 22:52.43 | gabriel9 | just to fix that Design stuff |
| 22:52.58 | gabriel9 | people like to draw stuff, not to write code |
| 22:53.41 | gabriel9 | and for me only thing that is missing is working debugger and N950, that are two things :D |
| 22:55.43 | ieatlint | i'm told the qml debugger actually works.. never tried |
| 22:56.08 | ieatlint | but qml is costly.. i mean, it works, but still costly |
| 22:56.14 | ieatlint | qml2 is a lot better |
| 22:56.49 | ieatlint | but i have to admit that keeping the logic out of it seems better, as things like efl's edje and even wp7's xaml do |
| 22:57.18 | gabriel9 | well i always try to break stuff in Model-View |
| 22:57.41 | gabriel9 | if you do any web stuff you would see that MVC is life saver |
| 22:57.59 | gabriel9 | qml2 i did not try, i hope it will come to N9 |
| 22:59.57 | gabriel9 | if it's good like you said |
| 23:00.52 | ieatlint | well technically it's on the n9, but it'll never be supported |
| 23:02.08 | gabriel9 | if nokia is smart they would give OS to comunity and create device for it |
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| 23:03.51 | gabriel9 | new template for Harmattan project |
| 23:03.53 | gabriel9 | nice :) |
| 23:04.30 | gabriel9 | with some header code |
| 23:06.52 | gabriel9 | night guys |
| 23:07.00 | gabriel9 | need to get some sleap before work |
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