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00:50.25itsnotabigtruckOctal__: yeah, sometimes it's pretty unreliable
00:50.35itsnotabigtrucknow go one step further and get inception :)
00:53.17auseris it working on 1.3 yet?
00:54.30itsnotabigtruckthat's classified
00:55.10itsnotabigtruck:D
00:56.27auserhmm ... well, I am still at 1.0 ... but I have annoying update message in my notification bar all the time
00:57.02itsnotabigtruckauser: it's probably offering to update you to 1.2
00:57.06itsnotabigtruckdo the update, it's an improvement
00:57.17itsnotabigtruckthough, actually...
00:57.24itsnotabigtruckconsider maybe flashing it instead of updating it
00:57.32itsnotabigtruckpeople have had problems after updating instead of flashing
00:57.50itsnotabigtruckalso when you flash it, make sure to flash it with the 001 firmware
00:58.28auserit says 1.339.03.1
00:59.31auserversion 30.2012.07-1.339.03.1
00:59.50itsnotabigtruckauser: i think that means you're already on PR1.2...
00:59.58itsnotabigtruckbut you're on variant 339, which is bad
01:00.06itsnotabigtruckyou want 001 because it gets updates first\
01:00.33auserI haven't updated anything ...
01:01.30auserthat was strange ... it says 1.2 ,,, hmmm i wonder how this happened
01:01.38auserlol
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09:36.22godofwar424Yo, has anybody else experience talk.maemo.org being down? Any info on it??
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09:59.28jonniyes, it was down yesterday for few hours, and also have been down today atleast few hours, some database problems etc
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10:16.44MohammadAGCrappy maintenance is crappy
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10:23.01MFaro-TusinoTMO issues?
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10:36.31petteriso it seems
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12:04.55KhertanHello
12:05.09Lava_CroftHi
12:05.41Lava_Croftjust to check: my n900 media player nicely allows me to play icecast streams with it
12:05.52Lava_Croftthis functionality is absent in stock n9 software, right?
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12:38.43luke_dirtwalkeranyone can help me with a qml components question on harmattan? this one http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/17872/ thanks in advance
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12:57.59Khertanis there a graphist in the room
12:57.59Khertanneed help for designing an icon
12:58.12Khertanfor a harmattan battle net authenticator
12:58.33MFaro-TusinoAnyone know how to alter the operator name? I have a feeling it can be done by altering an aspect of the simatk
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13:46.43jonniluke_dirtwalker: so your problem is? missing vkb, or something else?
13:48.39jonnior just missing FocusScope?
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14:04.31Corsacgrmbl, is there a right way to trigger the zooming on text edits?
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15:11.53KhertanBattleNet Authenticator for n9 : http://khertan.net/KhtBMA
15:11.54Khertan:)
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15:21.44merlin1991but but the screenshots have french text!
15:21.45merlin1991;)
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15:30.05Khertanmerlin1991: not final version :)
15:30.32Khertanmerlin1991: the text is in french for the moment (some part in french some in english elsewhere) ...
15:30.50Khertanmerlin1991: and i m looking for an icon
15:30.55Khertanmerlin1991: and it s not packaged
15:31.57leiniralways found it really strange when developing applications (in a programming language which is inherently English in nature), and people insist on using their own language as a base language in the application... having to constantly switch language mentally while coding cannot be easy :P
15:32.49Khertanleinir: i use english ... normally ... it s just that i copy the text from elsewhere
15:33.13Khertanleinir: and at work, i use french language as the language to code is in french too :)
15:33.23Khertansi... sinon ... fin de si ... :)
15:33.26Khertanmouarf
15:33.32Khertanboucle($i;1;100)
15:33.35Khertanfin de boucle
15:33.36befordwhat lang is that
15:33.37Khertanmouahha
15:33.37befordlol
15:33.38Khertan:)
15:33.42leinirdauym... niche ;)
15:34.08Khertanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_Dimension_%28software%29
15:34.59leiniri stand by my previous statement ;)
15:35.07Khertan:)
15:35.32Khertanleinir, use french and language is in french at work :)
15:35.56Khertanall programming language aren't in english
15:35.58Khertan:)
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15:37.16leinirKhertan: i'm from a country where the whole localisation thing never took off (people tried to localise various computing terms to Danish, but it failed miserably, so much that it's now a comedy topic in geek humour), so... yeah ;)
15:38.05leinirplus, i kind of like the idea of a lingua franca... oddly, of course, that it tends to be English out there in the wider world of business etc, just the French haven't noticed yet ;)
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16:00.42Khertan_n950noone would like to draw a icon for me ?
16:05.20Khertan_n950~ping
16:05.21infobot~pong
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16:23.54npmAny special tricks for downloading Firefox 13 from ovi store? I get "unable to complete installation" error
16:24.23npmalso tried uninstalling firefox 12 ... but that didn't work and now i got no firefox :-(
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16:36.53npmapt-get install fennect gives: "Failed to fetch exec:////usr/bin/osa --get 'fennec'  Size mismatch" ???
16:37.02npmwtf?
16:37.35npmhilfe help Apua  ?
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18:11.12TMavicaif chmod +x to a file as root, then run it as normal user, it still operation not permitted, whats the problem? thanks
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18:41.09fignewTMavica: a little something called Aegis...
18:42.23TMavicac
18:42.26TMavicahow stop it
18:44.43TMavicai know, nth
18:46.38rigohm, if you know what you're doing, you can try https://endno.de/~itsnotabigtruck/inception/
18:47.21rigobut this changes your device entirely. So if you're not a dev, keep your finger off
18:48.10jonnior you can just say "aegis-exec file" to run it.
18:49.40TMavicano, i know that.
18:49.57TMavicaI just try a latest version of wazapp in github by Cepi
18:50.38TMavicaafter overwrite all file, i execute the wazapp, it said operation not permitted
18:51.24jonnithen you can most likely see the error message by running "dmesg". if you just overwrite existing installation with new file, it will say operation not permitted forever
18:51.43TMavicaI done with chmod +x to the file as root, but run in normal user
18:51.57jonnias if you dont first uninstall and then copy the files, then you overwrite will give sha1 missmatch to refhashlist
18:52.19TMavicaso what command I do with dmesg?
18:52.40jonnionly way you can fix it is to update sha1 checksums in refhashlist and resign it.
18:53.12jonni(or to copy the older releases files over the new files, so sha1 sums match again)
18:53.50TMavicathe that execute file is modified compare to old one
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18:54.15jonniyou need to copy the old one back
18:54.33TMavicaok, let me try, copy the old one first, then hows the new one?
18:55.24jonniyou cannot copy new files over the installed files, that will always lead to permisson not permitted error, if you want new version, you need to make .deb package and install with dpkg -i, that way it updates sha1 checksums
18:55.41TMavicaOK.
18:56.23jonni(or the other way is to take sha1sum of the new files, and update refhaslist and tcb-sign them again, bug most of the average users dont know howto do that)
18:57.10TMavicayes, I am newbie, LOL..
18:57.27TMavicathanks . I give up
18:59.16jonniI have 2 liner perl script which resigns all sha1 refhashlist missmatches in my personal device, but I dont plan to share that script anytime soon.
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19:00.29TMavicais fine, thanks
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19:01.09jonnibut if its git repo, then mostlikely just running dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot, will give you .deb packages that you can install
19:02.32TMavicaI dont have scratchbox this PC to build.
19:02.32TMavicaLOL
19:02.32TMavicathanks
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19:07.44jonnimost likely you dont even need scratchbox for that, looks like qt sdk on windows would be enough
19:08.34jonnithat repo seems to be missing debian/rules
19:09.58TMavicayes bor
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19:34.14rigojonni, BTW, fenix keeps on crashing without traces as soon as I want to change the imap folder, do you know how I can debug that crash, is it known?
19:34.41rigohave to find the library that is causing this and re-install
19:35.15rigofurthermore, fenix doesn't work well with exim and authentication
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19:45.49jonnirigo: /home/user/.config/Nokia/Fenix.conf   you can enable all 3 different kind of logs in there, you should be able to hunt down what causes the error.
19:47.26jonnis/logs/logging/
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20:26.56fluxis there a way to make noise on a N9 over SSH? ..just wondering where I put it. it's also in silent profile :).
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20:27.45Venemoflux: can't you make it play some sound?
20:28.02fluxwell, how? there are no for example gstreamer tools in it.
20:28.10fluxI can log in fine.
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20:33.47fluxI managed to install mplayer. although, it said Package mplayer: denied 'GRP::audio' -- origin '' does not allow it during the install, possibly the reason why I cannot hear anything..
20:34.54piggzflux: how about ringing it and listeneing for vibrations?
20:35.13fluxwell, that might be possible, not sure if it's on vibrate
20:35.56fluxstill, it would be better just to make noise. I've used the same approach with n900 :)
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20:37.32fluxwell, found it the traditional way
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20:38.52fluxI might've been able to use x11vnc with it, but I would need some way to unlock the screen remotely
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21:01.26rigojonni, MComponentData: "Testability plugin /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/testability/libtestability.so load failed with error: The shared library was not found
21:02.01rigodon't whether this caused it. the entire backend seems to continue, just the frontend (display) crashes
21:02.16rigoanyway, have to stop here, will fix next week. Thanks again
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21:11.13jonniflux: you can always use "aplay foobar.wav"
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