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| 08:25.59 | Kozzi | https://twitter.com/StevieElop/status/214825550978625536 |
| 08:30.04 | denism | Kozzi: does anybody know, is it really true or not? (i.e. based on the inside) |
| 08:30.25 | denism | it is 2nd time when I read such rumour |
| 08:30.39 | Kozzi | lol I think that is just a troll |
| 08:30.54 | Kozzi | but the fact about ulm is true though |
| 08:31.29 | denism | with amount of cost reductions - it might be true |
| 08:33.20 | Kozzi | is funny that the reduction affects also tampere city where they concentrate mostly on windows phone |
| 08:37.23 | denism | as I heard - Windows phone division is not affected. More interesting - will Hermia 3 or Hermia 6 be closed? :) |
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| 08:38.43 | Kozzi | no idea |
| 08:40.06 | Kozzi | oh well Nokia has been too long in Hermia |
| 08:40.21 | Kozzi | time for them to move on and give place for start up companies |
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| 08:45.12 | Kozzi | http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Screen-Shot-2012-06-18-at-22.18.03.jpg |
| 08:45.45 | denism | I like some Finnish small startup companies. A lot of words that people should be paid well, a very good conditions, a lot of other praises of themselves and so on. And at the very end - a short sentence, that of cause 'you have understand, the 1st offer will be a temporary 4 months contract, it will be like a 'trial period'. |
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| 08:51.30 | nozdormu | test |
| 08:51.38 | nozdormu | say jello |
| 08:57.20 | ZogG_latop | jello |
| 08:59.31 | ZogG_latop | sup guys |
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| 09:32.58 | Kozzi | anyone here good with illustartor ? |
| 09:34.16 | ZogG_latop | AlphaX2: your nick here was gabriel once maybe? |
| 09:34.26 | AlphaX2 | nope never |
| 09:34.30 | ZogG_latop | Kozzi: what do you want to do? |
| 09:34.38 | ZogG_latop | AlphaX2: nvr mind than |
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| 09:35.22 | AlphaX2 | I'm just since a few weeks from time to time here in the IRC channel ;) |
| 09:35.26 | Kozzi | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/33tvp98l2jj1yya/FlZCRgB6VP/facebook-ill.svg |
| 09:35.54 | Kozzi | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/33tvp98l2jj1yya/VHFoHVOZx_/facebook-ill.png |
| 09:36.03 | Kozzi | why the svg looks so weird ? |
| 09:36.53 | Kozzi | I used this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg/500px-Facebook_Logo_Mini.svg.png |
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| 09:56.39 | Kozzi | ah got it, the live trace tool isn't that smart after all |
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| 12:29.43 | pa | anyone with qml bluetooth experience? |
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| 13:14.22 | AlphaX2 | hi guys |
| 13:15.09 | AlphaX2 | I need some help - cause I don't understand QMLs behaviour |
| 13:16.04 | AlphaX2 | I have a config class which is contextProperty of the QML |
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| 13:17.05 | AlphaX2 | the methods of Config evaluate to True or False and have just the task to set some buttons and switches to checked or not |
| 13:18.12 | AlphaX2 | so I use them in QML this way: checked: config.get_<name>_checked() |
| 13:18.32 | AlphaX2 | so just "ask" via Slot "Am I checked or not" |
| 13:19.04 | AlphaX2 | its working very well but QML emits, if the element is checked the elements onChecked signal |
| 13:19.21 | AlphaX2 | this signal is bind to another Classes Slot |
| 13:19.42 | AlphaX2 | so it unchecks itself |
| 13:19.58 | AlphaX2 | but that in fact can you see only on next start up |
| 13:20.03 | AlphaX2 | what can I do? |
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| 14:23.36 | rm_work | Is it possible to send files *from* the N9(50) to another device via bluetooth? I can't find a menu option for it anywhere |
| 14:23.44 | rm_work | do i need a special program? |
| 14:23.53 | rm_work | the lack of file browser is aggrivating :( |
| 14:24.04 | rm_work | that's the thing i miss most from Maemo5 |
| 14:25.00 | rm_work | googles |
| 14:26.04 | ZogG_latop | rm_work: filebox? |
| 14:26.36 | rm_work | hrm |
| 14:26.45 | rm_work | just found this: http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/file-manager-harmattan-n9-n950-alpha-0-1-0-released/ |
| 14:27.06 | rm_work | can't actually find it tho |
| 14:27.08 | rm_work | so, filebox? |
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| 14:30.09 | ZogG_latop | rm_work: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=76345 |
| 14:34.00 | rm_work | thanks |
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| 14:52.20 | Kozzi | woho, 37 working tv channels, perhaps time to consider having them in an app. |
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| 15:13.21 | MohammadAG | Screwing up an iOS device means restoring it, there's no way around that |
| 15:13.24 | MohammadAG | kinda sucks |
| 15:13.32 | MohammadAG | +1 to Android and Harmattan/Maemo there |
| 15:13.50 | pa | Kozzi, do you use worldtv99? |
| 15:13.50 | MohammadAG | of course on Harmattan you'd have to reflash to get rid of the warranty void message but still... |
| 15:14.00 | pa | :) |
| 15:14.55 | MohammadAG | and one thing for sure |
| 15:15.00 | MohammadAG | watchdogs suck on all devices |
| 15:17.02 | pa | do you think that im better off with some native qt widget and use standard qt ways to handle bluetooth, since i cant get qml and qt interoperate on bluetooth? |
| 15:17.41 | RST38h | moos at MohammadAG |
| 15:18.21 | RST38h | Mohammad: Just go with Android. But yes, the mascot looks like a garbage bin for a reason. |
| 15:18.23 | MohammadAG | QWidgets dont work right on Harmattan |
| 15:18.29 | MohammadAG | RST38h, I hate it |
| 15:18.44 | MohammadAG | I also hate having to restore cause I screwed up the main UI |
| 15:18.45 | RST38h | MohammadAG: I also hate it. But I hate being assraped by Apple more. |
| 15:18.55 | MohammadAG | I prefer that to being assraped by Java |
| 15:19.03 | khertan | Hello ! |
| 15:19.06 | RST38h | Oh, I mostly ignore Java ;) |
| 15:19.17 | khertan | Some notice delay in QA on new apps in Nokia Store this days ? |
| 15:19.21 | MohammadAG | you can't ignore a pita |
| 15:19.21 | RST38h | Wrote a wrapper and forgot about it |
| 15:19.23 | MohammadAG | oh... |
| 15:19.35 | MohammadAG | I can't restore |
| 15:19.35 | khertan | i ve submitted an app two weeks ago no answer yet |
| 15:19.35 | RST38h | You can, if you do it wisely |
| 15:19.35 | MohammadAG | how, fun |
| 15:22.32 | RST38h | scared to install x64 Python |
| 15:22.40 | RST38h | going with x86 |
| 15:22.58 | Kozzi | pa: nope, you could try http://thestreamdb.com/ |
| 15:23.11 | Kozzi | there lots of links, no idea if they work though |
| 15:26.31 | Kozzi | pa: do you know if there is a way to add the stream gotten from rtmpdump to kmplayer ? |
| 15:26.40 | Kozzi | *add = pass |
| 15:26.52 | MohammadAG | Woo, started restoring |
| 15:27.01 | MohammadAG | fucking finally |
| 15:27.09 | MohammadAG | now it needs 2 hours to restore my stuff, :D |
| 15:27.27 | MohammadAG | I'm not sure why that cable they supply says USB 2.0 |
| 15:27.33 | MohammadAG | 32GBs of data should copy in 10 mins |
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| 15:28.31 | ZogG_latop | khertan: what app? |
| 15:28.45 | khertan | ZogG: KhtBMA |
| 15:31.58 | Kozzi | ZogG_latop: do you have the nick of TedTalks maker or links to the source? |
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| 15:33.10 | pa | Kozzi, dont know.. |
| 15:33.26 | pa | but why dont u try worldtv99? |
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| 15:35.27 | Kozzi | is it an app for n9 ? |
| 15:35.41 | pa | for kmplayer |
| 15:35.43 | pa | list of feeds |
| 15:37.08 | khertan | installing scratchbox for compiling vim with python support |
| 15:37.50 | Kozzi | pa: eh, no idea what you mean by that |
| 15:38.01 | pa | search for it |
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| 15:47.51 | ZogG_latop | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/9343720/Microsofts-Surface-tablet-fails-during-Los-Angeles-showcase.html |
| 15:48.07 | ZogG_latop | lol surface freezes during presentation |
| 15:48.12 | ZogG_latop | he feels so embarresed |
| 15:49.00 | Kozzi | I found the deb file and thread for maemo 5 but no info on source code or how it add links to kmplayer |
| 15:49.48 | Kozzi | *how it = how to |
| 16:05.56 | ZogG_latop | Kozzi: write here apps@aegis.co.id |
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| 16:28.00 | Kozzi | thanks |
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| 17:07.35 | pa | kozzi: you find the link on my-meego |
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| 17:08.53 | Morpog | oh wow, wp8 is as boring as wp7..... |
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| 17:37.17 | Morpog | still no real multitasking...... |
| 17:41.01 | rzr | worse is better |
| 17:42.04 | ZogG_latop | windows will always stay windows |
| 17:49.31 | Morpog | hey, new nokia suite beta supports officially n9! |
| 17:50.14 | Morpog | wonders still happen |
| 17:51.16 | ZogG_latop | is it ported to linux ? |
| 17:51.33 | rzr | who cares ? |
| 17:52.00 | ZogG_latop | if it is it's nice otherwise no use |
| 17:52.08 | Morpog | lol |
| 17:52.42 | Morpog | nope its not |
| 17:53.13 | Morpog | rzr, everyone who hates nokia link and wants to sync stuff offline |
| 17:53.32 | Morpog | like contacts, calenders, etc. |
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| 17:56.23 | rzr | rsync :) |
| 17:57.22 | HtheB | hi rzr |
| 17:57.23 | HtheB | sup |
| 17:59.28 | rzr | hi |
| 18:00.43 | HtheB | you replied to the ios topic |
| 18:00.50 | HtheB | on tmo |
| 18:00.59 | HtheB | what do you mean with the 1st build? |
| 18:01.58 | HtheB | since there is no maemo port at all (yet) |
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| 18:13.05 | ZogG_latop | HtheB: ori knwow your nick |
| 18:13.26 | ZogG_latop | so those are people that log in here just to sk quick question and ru away? =) |
| 18:15.05 | HtheB | no, ive just installed irc |
| 18:15.19 | HtheB | saw zrz was active |
| 18:15.29 | HtheB | so just tought what he meant with his post :p |
| 18:17.12 | HtheB | (was trying out different irc clients on harmattan) |
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| 18:22.33 | rzr | HtheB, well i suggested to built it w/ gcc at least |
| 18:23.44 | rzr | btw it may be a hoax |
| 18:24.09 | HtheB | hmmm, I think that the guy who got the ios apps running on the playbook doesnt make use of the magenta project |
| 18:24.29 | HtheB | accourding to crackberry, it isnt |
| 18:24.37 | HtheB | as you may see the videos and posts |
| 18:25.00 | HtheB | games works good because of opengl afair |
| 18:25.31 | HtheB | hang on, ill show you the link |
| 18:26.55 | HtheB | www.crackberry.com/developer-gets-ios-apps-running-blackberry-real |
| 18:28.15 | HtheB | I dont think its a hoax at all :) |
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| 18:30.49 | rzr | so we should warmup our compiler |
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| 18:39.03 | HtheB | well, ive contacted the devloper again to see if he still likes to join/help us |
| 18:39.36 | HtheB | what ive understand from his mail is that he is not allowed (or doesnt want) to share the sources |
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| 18:42.22 | rzr | Magenta. | http://crna.cc/ | Magenta: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3157793/Magenta/Photo%20Jun%2019%2C%206%2036%2055%20PM.jpg | The version on my site is ridiculously outdated, I know. I will update in within the next few days. |
| 19:02.18 | ZogG_latop | HtheB: diffferent clients? there are only 2 normal on n9 and irssi if you have n950 |
| 19:02.35 | ZogG_latop | rzr: have you seen community award competitions? |
| 19:03.12 | ZogG_latop | chem|st: merlin1991 congrats you do deserve those btw |
| 19:03.22 | ZogG_latop | MohammadAG: and you |
| 19:12.52 | ZogG_latop | rzr: 3 council memebers out of 5 won the phone :D |
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| 19:14.41 | ZogG_latop | Jaffa: ping |
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| 19:20.12 | ZogG_latop | beford: hey man |
| 19:21.10 | beford | hey |
| 19:23.37 | beford | how is it going ZogG_latop |
| 19:25.45 | Jaffa | ZogG_latop: pong |
| 19:28.36 | ZogG_latop | Jaffa: i have question and some info i need to discuss with you |
| 19:30.48 | ZogG_laptop | Jaffa: i just going to write some howto on apps4meego + OBS + QtCreator as the wiki is not quite right and not quite usefull, but i would like someone to review it and than edit if needed before posting to wiki |
| 19:31.12 | ZogG_laptop | AFAIK you wrote the the current one related to QtCreator as i assume |
| 19:31.30 | ZogG_laptop | and second i just wondered how is BB10 device? =) |
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| 19:33.19 | ZogG_laptop | ~ping |
| 19:33.19 | infobot | ~pong |
| 19:35.15 | ZogG_laptop | =\ |
| 19:35.37 | ZogG_laptop | beford: nothing good, except my app in apps4meego and ovi now =P |
| 19:35.54 | beford | need to hurry up with mine |
| 19:36.01 | beford | I'll work full on this weekend |
| 19:36.11 | ZogG_laptop | beford: with lastfm? |
| 19:36.15 | beford | yea |
| 19:36.16 | ZogG_laptop | beford: need help? |
| 19:36.43 | beford | I'll let you know heh, I've been doing ton of testing with the accounts thing |
| 19:36.46 | ZogG_laptop | you was in same category as me or you in coding competition? |
| 19:36.57 | beford | did you solve all the account issues? |
| 19:37.01 | beford | yea, same category |
| 19:37.11 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i got info out of account but i don't got token thing |
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| 19:37.16 | beford | I don't remember seeing a deadline, is there one? |
| 19:37.27 | ZogG_laptop | i think i need to re-write plugin and the way i get data =) |
| 19:37.33 | beford | most of the people already submitted the app though, so I'll better hurry up |
| 19:37.50 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i didn't add accounts yet |
| 19:37.57 | beford | ah ok |
| 19:38.38 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i think at the end i'll end up with including koauth or what's the lib name in the app and f# native account as it's just a mess for noobie like me to figure it out |
| 19:39.45 | beford | hehe |
| 19:42.58 | ZogG_laptop | beford: what do you use to auth? |
| 19:43.09 | ZogG_laptop | beford: and what problems with account you have? |
| 19:43.26 | beford | last.fm api doesn't support oauth, is something similar |
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| 19:47.51 | beford | ZogG, I don't have problems yet but I need to finish it first :p |
| 19:49.27 | jonni | btw, newest nokia suite now supports N950 and N9. :) support is back :) |
| 19:50.02 | jonni | support comes 'a bit' late :) |
| 19:53.08 | pa | looks like a mocking for the users ;) |
| 19:53.23 | pa | "now that your device is dead, you can use nokia suite" |
| 19:53.47 | Kozzi | must be released by people who got cut recently |
| 19:53.56 | tomma | how many n950 owner uses windows which is only host os nokia suite supports? |
| 19:54.49 | pa | but so did Flop officially announced that the maemo project is now terminated? |
| 19:55.02 | ZogG_laptop | still waiting for linux version |
| 19:55.07 | ZogG_laptop | =P |
| 19:55.08 | pa | = no further maemo devices ever? |
| 19:55.12 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: leak the code |
| 19:55.47 | pa | these days an iOS version would be more useful ;) |
| 19:56.34 | pa | shit its a pity i didnt manage to finish my app by today |
| 19:56.43 | pa | now i wont be able to work on it for at least a month |
| 19:56.48 | beford | http://crackberry.com/developer-gets-ios-apps-running-blackberry-real |
| 19:58.44 | jonni | pa: 11.2.2011 it was already announced that there is no new maemo devices ever. So that one was already known 16 months ago. |
| 19:59.07 | pa | jonni, wasnt meltemi still in plan? |
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| 20:00.31 | ZogG_laptop | pa: plans change |
| 20:00.48 | ZogG_laptop | pa: there was plan that n900 would be step 5/6 or something like that =P |
| 20:01.31 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: thanks! |
| 20:01.43 | jonni | don't know what that wind is, as havent seen any announcements on that. And winds would never have been maemo or meego based. |
| 20:01.52 | chem|st | still weird to have 4 councelors on that list |
| 20:02.14 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: only 3 won =) |
| 20:02.34 | chem|st | niel iv estel and SD are 4 |
| 20:02.45 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: let's see if i would be banned again for my reply on that btw =P |
| 20:03.01 | ZogG_laptop | niel won too? |
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| 20:26.57 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: yes |
| 20:27.35 | chem|st | I am just wondering about councelors having the guts to do that ever! |
| 20:27.43 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: late reply is so late |
| 20:28.30 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: i would grab all of them and run away =) |
| 20:28.33 | ZogG_laptop | MWAHAHAHA |
| 20:28.35 | chem|st | sry was occupied by s/o on query |
| 20:28.36 | pa | how would you share a list of strings between qt and a qml listviewer component? |
| 20:28.46 | ajalkane | What's the big deal? IMO anyone willing to get on the council to use their time trying to further our community deserves the device |
| 20:28.56 | chem|st | nvm I am off |
| 20:29.00 | tomma | pa, qstringlistmodel? |
| 20:29.16 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: just thought you ping me about s/t important :) |
| 20:29.34 | chem|st | the device will probably go to my GF anyway... |
| 20:30.44 | ZogG_laptop | pa: is it something to be changed a lot? |
| 20:30.47 | pa | tomma, thanks! and would you declare it in qml , and then retrieve it via property(""), and appropriate conversion of the resulting QVariant in Qt, or the other way around? |
| 20:31.05 | ZogG_laptop | chem|st: i'll send you one more, send me your gf |
| 20:31.07 | pa | ZogG_laptop, no, not much, but it is changed by Qt, and displayed by qml |
| 20:31.33 | pa | and on qml i want to click on the items, and the signal has to go back to qt |
| 20:31.53 | ZogG_laptop | pa: can you explaine whole idea? |
| 20:31.54 | ajalkane | QStringListModel does not work well in QML |
| 20:32.18 | ajalkane | Well, correction, with Harmattan components. |
| 20:32.19 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i have made the element that is changed by Qt monitored by aml and updated |
| 20:32.25 | pa | well essentially i want to do bluetooth communication in Qt, and not qml, but i need a qml file to display the result of the scanning |
| 20:32.39 | pa | at the moment i have the scnanning done all in qml |
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| 20:32.54 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i can show how i did it |
| 20:32.54 | pa | but i dont know how to bring back BluetoothService items into qt |
| 20:33.03 | tomma | pa, just put those strings into model which you set as context property for qml |
| 20:33.11 | pa | so i thought about running the scanning in qt, and use qml just for displaying |
| 20:33.22 | pa | ZogG_laptop, yeah, would be cool |
| 20:33.42 | pa | tomma, ah ok, so you would do the other way around |
| 20:33.43 | tomma | and make invokable function to some of your c++ qobject which takes index of clicked item |
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| 20:34.06 | ZogG_laptop | pa: https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/qml/imgrup/UploadPage.qml#L20 |
| 20:34.20 | chem|st | ZogG_laptop: for sure....not |
| 20:34.34 | pa | thanks guys |
| 20:34.43 | pa | fuck the presentation, i'll finish my app now :) |
| 20:34.48 | ZogG_laptop | pa: https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/upload.cpp#L33 |
| 20:35.05 | ZogG_laptop | pa: the second is how i emit from qt |
| 20:35.32 | Kozzi | pa: that's the spirit! |
| 20:36.24 | ZogG_laptop | pa: can you finish my and Kozzi's apps too please? |
| 20:36.29 | ZogG_laptop | :) |
| 20:36.35 | ZogG_laptop | ☺ |
| 20:36.36 | Kozzi | my app ? |
| 20:36.53 | pa | one at time .. and u already got ur N9, what do you want?? : pppp |
| 20:37.01 | ZogG_laptop | xmms2 Playing: Nina Simone - Do What You Gotta Do: 02:36 of 03:35 |
| 20:37.12 | ZogG_laptop | pa: who got? |
| 20:37.16 | pa | well |
| 20:37.19 | pa | u will get |
| 20:37.20 | pa | :) |
| 20:37.37 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i still didn't, i hope i'll get, but for now i still do not believe =) |
| 20:37.52 | ZogG_laptop | pa: so shoot for help if you want |
| 20:37.57 | pa | u mean u fear Flow cancelled also the device program? :) |
| 20:38.25 | pa | yes im looking for a project mate, would you be interested? :) |
| 20:38.38 | pa | actually the first version of the app is almost done |
| 20:39.22 | Kozzi | just got in touch with qml in qtcreator |
| 20:40.21 | rzr | ZogG, well i got a n950 i am happy w/ it |
| 20:40.24 | Kozzi | can I use this (create a qml file) showing a list of ..well channels and tapping an item will launch the $HOME/tvvn/tvvn.sh channel_name |
| 20:40.51 | HtheB | n950 |
| 20:40.56 | HtheB | ftw |
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| 20:41.50 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: yeah i know but i still think you diserve more than few from list =) |
| 20:42.00 | ZogG_laptop | HtheB: you got onw too? |
| 20:42.18 | ezzy | I cannot get my N9 to boot I am able to get flasher to reflash the device but to no avail. |
| 20:42.29 | rzr | well i have nothing to say , i thank nokia for the 1st time |
| 20:42.45 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i might be interested and i have another project i want to do and people want to see on harmattan but accounts thing is stopping, so i might end up with not native account but oauth lib inside app |
| 20:42.49 | rzr | donno how involved are the lucky ones , future will tell |
| 20:43.00 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: battery is full? |
| 20:43.16 | rzr | i would prefer that owners are more active than i do , than having all devices |
| 20:43.20 | ezzy | ZogG, flasher says, "Battery level 77 %, continuing." |
| 20:43.34 | pa | what is stopping? |
| 20:43.39 | pa | accounts thing? meaning? |
| 20:43.47 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: full flash? any erro on display? what was the state before? |
| 20:44.13 | rzr | and i said my request was in "low priority" , so this is not a problem . but if my n950 die i'll be in serious trouble |
| 20:44.25 | ezzy | ZogG, Full flash, "Updating SW release ... Success" |
| 20:44.43 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i know how to add account with oauth but not how to use it in app, and not good documentation there and i'm learning Qt and qml like you and my knowlegde at Qt and C++ probably less than yours =) |
| 20:45.06 | ZogG_laptop | rzr: screen syndrome is scary |
| 20:45.20 | pa | ah okay |
| 20:45.20 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: so u tried to flash and it died? |
| 20:45.32 | pa | so u have to work on your problem now,thats what ur saying :) |
| 20:45.40 | ZogG_laptop | pa: i started to work o tumblr client and made something simple |
| 20:45.53 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, no I flashed it because it died. |
| 20:46.06 | HtheB | well, ive got an n955 |
| 20:46.10 | pa | im making a sports tracker alternative, since the meego version is so crappy |
| 20:46.13 | ZogG_laptop | pa: nope i'll work on other things with imgrup while for new app account and oauth are mandatory |
| 20:46.22 | ZogG_laptop | pa: niiiiiice |
| 20:46.35 | ZogG_laptop | HtheB: n9 + keyboard thing? =) |
| 20:46.43 | HtheB | yup |
| 20:46.57 | ZogG_laptop | HtheB: or nokla n955 clone of n95 from our chinise brothers? |
| 20:46.58 | HtheB | works great if you ask me |
| 20:47.15 | HtheB | a little clunky ofcourse, but... i think i can live with that |
| 20:47.19 | HtheB | hahahaha |
| 20:47.23 | Kozzi | pa: awesome! with maps support ? |
| 20:47.50 | ZogG_laptop | i'm good with no keybord as i don't type t much and use it's more like phone, though sometimes ssh to pc to put movie from salon on tv or to switch music =) |
| 20:48.18 | beford | you need a better media system |
| 20:48.19 | pa | Kozzi, yes im planning to add that |
| 20:48.19 | beford | :P |
| 20:48.22 | pa | gps+maps |
| 20:48.32 | ZogG_laptop | pa: btw is it tracker client or your choose other service? |
| 20:48.34 | pa | but i want to get public just with the hrm |
| 20:48.39 | beford | ssh just to change music ZogG_laptop ? :p there are mpd clients for n9 and n900 |
| 20:48.47 | pa | no for now it will be stand alone |
| 20:48.51 | pa | no web support |
| 20:49.11 | pa | but im planning to store the data in a quite simple format |
| 20:49.11 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i wrote kinda xmms2 client for n900, actually started but it died |
| 20:49.13 | Kozzi | sport tracker requires internet connection for loading maps which suck since it's builtin |
| 20:49.20 | pa | so that it can be pushed to different web services |
| 20:49.38 | ZogG_laptop | beford: and i watch movies with mplayer |
| 20:49.59 | ZogG_laptop | beford: as well i cn change music on computer from irssi on laptop =) |
| 20:50.13 | Kozzi | I still wonder if developers have access to use those map files inside the phone |
| 20:50.24 | beford | xbmc is probably better looking ZogG_laptop :P |
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| 20:50.31 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: maps of nokia sucks, viva la google |
| 20:50.32 | beford | ZogG_laptop, is it a media dedicated pc? |
| 20:50.56 | Kozzi | why bother load them online if map data files are pre-installed |
| 20:51.37 | ZogG_laptop | beford: why so? i have desctop in my room and reciver in salon and cable for hdmi and sound (has no support on mobo to connect audio to nvidia to get audio thru hdmi too) |
| 20:52.13 | ZogG_laptop | beford: it's desctop computer with torrents, data, music, web server, ftp and more =) |
| 20:52.17 | Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: you should seriously consider getting xbmc, then use the xbmcremote made by mzanetti. |
| 20:52.23 | ZogG_laptop | beford: it was more main pc before i got lazy with laptop |
| 20:52.28 | beford | ah ok |
| 20:52.39 | ezzy | So is my phone really bricked? ... |
| 20:52.39 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: read agin what i wrote |
| 20:53.12 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: xbmc is limited distro, while i have fully functional and can do the same xbm can and more |
| 20:53.19 | Kozzi | ouch I'm slow typing |
| 20:53.34 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: there is option for that or that you didn't flash it right |
| 20:53.54 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: beford i would suggest you to use funtoo =) |
| 20:54.17 | ezzy | ./flasher -f -F <location>? |
| 20:54.22 | beford | archlinux <3 |
| 20:54.27 | ZogG_laptop | btw i have media-tv/xbmc in portage if you ask =) |
| 20:54.29 | beford | arch is fun too :p |
| 20:54.46 | Kozzi | windows 7 :) |
| 20:54.49 | ezzy | What do you mean there is an option for that? |
| 20:54.58 | ZogG_laptop | beford: tried it, it's not that logical and your aurs are nothing compare to portage |
| 20:55.20 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: option for what? |
| 20:55.30 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: do you have windows or linux? |
| 20:55.38 | ezzy | linux |
| 20:55.42 | ZogG_laptop | ~flash |
| 20:55.43 | infobot | from memory, flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N9 |
| 20:55.45 | beford | I was testing xbmcubuntu on my old computer http://p.twimg.com/ArD5EZACIAAlww8.jpg:large |
| 20:55.53 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: did you follow that ^ |
| 20:56.12 | beford | I want to get a low power system first though |
| 20:56.17 | ZogG_laptop | beford: don't see the point of that? |
| 20:56.46 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i have my system set like that — tv connected to reciever |
| 20:59.03 | pa | and i hope jonni will tell me how to do something i will really need : ) |
| 20:59.46 | Kozzi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eDJbT35X5k&feature=relmfu |
| 21:00.19 | Kozzi | man this is awesome, first with xbmcremote I don't even have to move away from sofa |
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| 21:00.40 | Kozzi | with this I don't even have to touch av and tv remotes |
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| 21:04.30 | HtheB | anyone already tried out fremantle for harmattan? |
| 21:04.32 | ZogG_laptop | while to reciver i connected ps3/cable tv/comp |
| 21:04.58 | pa | whats fremantle for harmattan? |
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| 21:06.01 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: there is vlc remote and other remotes, i want to write at some point xmms2 remote and check if there is option to make mplayer remote |
| 21:07.20 | Kozzi | write a samsung tv remote |
| 21:07.22 | AlphaX2 | pa: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84987 |
| 21:07.33 | HtheB | pa: this talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1224857#post1224857 |
| 21:07.41 | beford | nice |
| 21:07.45 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: if there api it's doable |
| 21:07.48 | HtheB | thnx AlphaX2 |
| 21:07.52 | Kozzi | http://www.gemote.org/ |
| 21:07.52 | beford | http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/22258558.jpg nice too |
| 21:07.54 | beford | xD |
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| 21:08.35 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: it is supported by N9 already |
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| 21:08.47 | Kozzi | yeah just noticed it too |
| 21:09.18 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: it wasn't there before |
| 21:09.27 | ZogG_laptop | i just wrote it and released there =P |
| 21:09.29 | ZogG_laptop | ☺ |
| 21:10.16 | Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: lol, good job. Now you can continue with LG tvs |
| 21:12.49 | Kozzi | someone got ios apps running on blackberry |
| 21:13.16 | Kozzi | and seems like HtheB has already contacted this guy |
| 21:14.42 | pa | ah |
| 21:14.43 | HtheB | yes.... |
| 21:14.48 | pa | to run n900 apps |
| 21:15.01 | HtheB | pa, also yes :D |
| 21:15.12 | beford | nice did he say anything? |
| 21:15.41 | Kozzi | quote: he also has a n900 |
| 21:16.02 | HtheB | kozzi: no he doesnt |
| 21:16.19 | HtheB | beford: i copy pasted his short reply |
| 21:16.40 | HtheB | i replied back... so, lets wait once again to see if he will jump onboard |
| 21:17.02 | Kozzi | oh sorry; "he is familiar with n900" not own one |
| 21:18.15 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, Seems like it would be really hard to mess up a flash.. |
| 21:19.11 | Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: http://www.samsungdforum.com/upload_files/files/guide/data/html/html_3/api_reference/javascript_apis/interactive_remote_api/interactive_remote_api.html |
| 21:19.30 | Kozzi | the one by Gemote doesn't support mousepad :) |
| 21:19.39 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, The LED on my phone is active. When I press the power button it lights up while I still hold it it turns off, usually it vibrates at this point I think but it is not. |
| 21:23.32 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: on power now? try to unconnect cables |
| 21:23.53 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: or try to reflash with nokia software updater from windows |
| 21:25.44 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, what cables? |
| 21:28.43 | HtheB | bbl |
| 21:28.56 | Kozzi | perhaps usb-cable |
| 21:29.26 | ZogG_laptop | yeap |
| 21:29.54 | ZogG_laptop | sometimes after my batery dies and i connect to charge i cant turn on till i disconect and turn on and than re-connect |
| 21:30.20 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, well of course I've tried it without usb |
| 21:30.44 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, there is not some diagnostic tool or something? >< |
| 21:31.41 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, I have never experienced that with my N9 myself. |
| 21:33.10 | ezzy | When plugged in the LED does the normal flashing as if it where charging =\ |
| 21:33.34 | ezzy | and comes up as Nokia Mobile Phones via lsusb |
| 21:34.09 | Sniper_swe | mine gets impossible to start after empty battery. always need to boot into nitdroid then let it load for a while then boot harmattan. |
| 21:36.08 | ezzy | Sniper_swe, nitdroid? |
| 21:36.13 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: have no idea, last time i flashed was when i had n900 =( |
| 21:36.15 | ezzy | googling.. |
| 21:37.10 | ZogG_laptop | chekc the forum |
| 21:37.17 | ZogG_laptop | i bet the problem existed already |
| 21:39.00 | Sniper_swe | nitdroid: android port for n9 n950 and n900 |
| 21:40.46 | Sniper_swe | ezzy, |
| 21:40.50 | Sniper_swe | http://forum.nitdroid.com/index.php |
| 21:41.57 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: do not try nitdroid now, try to fix it first =) |
| 21:43.20 | Sniper_swe | yeah then brick it again;p |
| 21:44.15 | Sniper_swe | its good to have experience with flasher before nitdroid installation:) |
| 21:47.57 | ezzy | What is there to learn abotu flasher.. |
| 21:48.07 | ezzy | it is pretty self explanatory :p |
| 21:53.04 | ezzy | doesn't the phone show a battery on screen when charging? |
| 21:53.09 | ezzy | if working correctly |
| 21:54.20 | ezzy | when powered off of course. |
| 21:56.08 | Kozzi | yup |
| 21:56.15 | Sniper_swe | my n9 always autostart with charger connected. ofcourse if i power if with charger it dosnt reboot by it self. |
| 21:56.43 | ezzy | Mine doesn't do that autostart thing ><. |
| 21:57.53 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: nope it doesn't show afaik |
| 21:58.00 | ZogG_laptop | but i think led is blinking |
| 21:58.24 | Sniper_swe | ok. autostart is a pita when battery is dead:p thats why i need to boot nitdroid to get it to charge. if i try to boot harmattan it just reboots. |
| 21:58.34 | ezzy | hmm |
| 21:58.36 | Sniper_swe | yep led blinks |
| 21:58.51 | ezzy | could you try removing your sim card tray and try booting? |
| 21:59.47 | ZogG_laptop | ezzy: i did remove it while phone was one once and moved back. is your out?? |
| 21:59.49 | Sniper_swe | phone is fully charged so everything works now:p sim or no sim |
| 22:00.38 | ezzy | ZogG_laptop, no I am just looking for possible issues |
| 22:02.10 | Sniper_swe | are your battery charged? otherwise charge with flasher |
| 22:05.00 | ezzy | hmm? |
| 22:05.07 | ezzy | It is at ~80% |
| 22:05.26 | Sniper_swe | okay. |
| 22:06.12 | Sniper_swe | flash rootfs. that way you will keep everything but apps. |
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| 22:16.39 | ezzy | Sniper_swe, does that require a special image? |
| 22:19.20 | Sniper_swe | no rootfs is the main .bin . i mean dint flash emmc image that will erase everything. |
| 22:21.14 | ezzy | Sniper_swe, so flasher -r bin? |
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| 22:21.40 | ezzy | that tells me bad rootfs format in |
| 22:21.43 | ezzy | the fin file |
| 22:21.48 | ezzy | bimn |
| 22:22.31 | Sniper_swe | flasher -f -F main.bin |
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| 22:23.11 | ezzy | that does everything |
| 22:23.12 | ezzy | ? |
| 22:23.45 | ezzy | Sniper_swe, I've done flasher -f -F 2-3 times it has had no effect. |
| 22:23.52 | Sniper_swe | download fireware from navifarm. replace main with the name of your firemware |
| 22:24.02 | ezzy | of course... |
| 22:24.04 | Sniper_swe | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 |
| 22:24.09 | ezzy | ... |
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| 22:24.40 | ezzy | I got the firmware from navifirm.. |
| 22:25.14 | Sniper_swe | paste flasher output |
| 22:28.14 | ezzy | http://gentoo.pastebin.ca/2163369 |
| 22:29.46 | Sniper_swe | seems right. still no boot? |
| 22:31.44 | ezzy | no boot |
| 22:32.20 | Sniper_swe | strange. what did you do to break it?:p |
| 22:32.53 | ezzy | Nothing just won't boot |
| 22:33.25 | ezzy | I've only dropped it once and it was like a 2 foot fall to wood. |
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| 22:34.08 | ezzy | Had this thing for 8 months now \; |
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| 22:34.41 | Sniper_swe | i dropped mine 25times from higher so i dont think its the problem:p just died suddenly then wont boot? |
| 22:35.13 | Sniper_swe | no new app or hack? |
| 22:38.07 | ezzy | nope I ended a call and it stopped working |
| 22:38.35 | Sniper_swe | sounds really strange. warrant? |
| 22:38.43 | Sniper_swe | warranty?* |
| 22:38.52 | ezzy | sending it to singapore is going to suck `.~ |
| 22:39.00 | ezzy | won't get my phone back for about a month |
| 22:39.05 | ezzy | sigh |
| 22:39.19 | Sniper_swe | try full flash first with emmc and all |
| 22:39.29 | Sniper_swe | flasher -f -F main.bin |
| 22:39.41 | ezzy | That is what I've been doing? |
| 22:40.40 | Sniper_swe | no you flashed firmware. full flash is firemware and emmc. you will need emmc image from navifarm to |
| 22:41.52 | Sniper_swe | you will loose all data. but you probably will if you send to nokia care anyway. |
| 22:42.48 | ezzy | Sniper_swe, thats true. |
| 22:42.49 | jonni | most likley your booting problems end when you flash emmc image, or if that doesnt help then erase-user-data=secure should help. But my bet is that your emmc is missing/corrupted, so it doesnt boot. |
| 22:43.10 | Sniper_swe | i bricked mine a while back and only formware did not work. but with full flash it worked |
| 22:43.26 | ezzy | Sniper_swe, I really_really_ hope this works :P |
| 22:43.39 | Sniper_swe | hope so to:) |
| 22:45.54 | Sniper_swe | let us know:) |
| 22:48.43 | ezzy | what would the emmc bin look like? |
| 22:51.42 | ezzy | I am not seeing an emmc bin in navifirm |
| 22:52.58 | Sniper_swe | its like 2 gb and at the same place as your fware |
| 22:57.20 | ezzy | hmm I an not seeing that in navifirm |
| 22:57.23 | ajalkane | ~/quit |
| 22:57.23 | infobot | ACTION has signed off IRC (NULL), or <action> /quit #kde... hmm doesn't work... |
| 22:57.29 | ajalkane | uh... |
| 22:57.32 | ajalkane | new try |
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| 23:09.58 | Sniper_swe | thats strange. file is named like dfl61blablablaemmc.bin i think |
| 23:10.44 | jonni | it doesnt show on default server, you need to switch the server in order to see the emmc images |
| 23:13.49 | jonni | (switch from production to care suit) |
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| 23:14.54 | Sniper_swe | must be new? i never had a problem finding it:) |
| 23:15.20 | jonni | depends on what navifirm version one is using |
| 23:15.33 | jonni | or navifirmex version |
| 23:15.56 | Sniper_swe | 1.7+ here i yhink |
| 23:16.30 | jonni | atleast navifirmex defaults to production server which doesnt have emmc images, and care suit server is behind menu option. |
| 23:17.35 | Sniper_swe | okay. good to know |
| 23:23.05 | ezzy | jonni, yea I am trying to get newer one to work :p |
| 23:23.11 | ezzy | jonni, I've been on 0.1 haha |
| 23:23.30 | ezzy | since the good old days :D |
| 23:23.39 | jonni | -ex version also works in Linux with wine. |
| 23:25.59 | ezzy | -ex? |
| 23:26.06 | ezzy | looking on the navifirm wiki atm |
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