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| 09:48.39 | japh | uh. what the hell is going on here https://gist.github.com/2987682 ? |
| 09:49.07 | Lava_Croft | wauw |
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| 10:05.40 | denism | japh: mp-harmattan-rm680-pr is going to be removed |
| 10:06.04 | japh | I'm assuming that's not a good thing |
| 10:06.15 | japh | I only requested to install a few things, what the hell? |
| 10:06.38 | denism | mp-harmattan-rm680-pr depends to the exact version of some of your changed package |
| 10:08.06 | denism | as I remember the discussion - you have to change all those package to 'manually installed' state... not sure really, never tried, I prefer dpkg -i |
| 10:08.26 | ieatlint | does anyone have a good fix for the ovi store client on the n9 always insisting "package not found" when you try to install something? |
| 10:08.55 | japh | denism, are you dpkg -i'ing every single package by hand? |
| 10:09.37 | denism | japh: for my dev N9 - yes :) |
| 10:09.56 | japh | this is my... dev n950. |
| 10:10.05 | japh | I'm not going to say that I enjoy apt very much |
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| 10:35.14 | jonni | ieatlint: maybe you are missing the source lists in your phone |
| 10:36.16 | jonni | ieatlint: usually package not found comes if you have removed /etc/apt/sources.list.d/aegis.ssu-keyring-001.list |
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| 10:51.30 | djszapi | ieatlint: sup, back to US ? |
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| 10:55.15 | ieatlint | jonni: haven't touched the sources, but will vieryf |
| 10:55.16 | ieatlint | verify |
| 10:55.42 | ieatlint | djszapi: nah, just moved a bit west, near dusseldorf right now |
| 10:56.54 | djszapi | ahh you mentioned that |
| 10:59.34 | ieatlint | and now i should probably go find some sort of lunch |
| 11:00.25 | djszapi | ieatlint: how about fluid bread ? |
| 11:02.16 | Lava_Croft | beer? for lunch? |
| 11:03.21 | djszapi | well, you can drink stronger if you wish. |
| 11:04.36 | ieatlint | yeah, that's my plan: 1:30 - beer, 2:30 - vomit |
| 11:05.04 | ieatlint | i'm just going to act like one of those groups of british tourists |
| 11:05.27 | ieatlint | anyone know how to apologize for throwing up on someone in germn? |
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| 11:09.27 | phako | is there a special apology for that in other languages? |
| 11:12.19 | jonni | a good wiskey bottle? :) |
| 11:12.26 | jonni | whiskey even |
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| 11:29.20 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: still no mail from nokia =\ |
| 11:30.17 | jonni | ZogG_laptop: yep, no mail in my mailbox either. |
| 11:30.49 | djszapi | for what ? |
| 11:31.05 | djszapi | CEO application ? |
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| 11:55.52 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: yes |
| 11:56.07 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: i want to burn the mutafuka to the ground |
| 11:58.42 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: lol |
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| 12:14.16 | chem|st | ieatlint: there is no way to appologize for that... just make sure you do not get some bodybuilder-type's pants wet... |
| 12:17.42 | ZogG_laptop | otherwise you''ll be rapped |
| 12:21.02 | Lava_Croft | bodybuilders wont rape you |
| 12:21.10 | Lava_Croft | apart from your brains, steroids make other stuff shrink too |
| 12:21.45 | Lava_Croft | dissolve might be a better word |
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| 12:23.38 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: but if he gets wet it's other story =) |
| 12:24.54 | Lava_Croft | it might affect the prostate too |
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| 13:12.14 | ZogG_laptop | Jaffa: X-Fade , rzr, jonni, phako ping |
| 13:12.20 | phako | ? |
| 13:12.23 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: ping too |
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| 13:12.52 | ZogG_laptop | phako: i want you to review some howto about obs and qtcreator |
| 13:13.27 | phako | 's currently busy, sorry |
| 13:13.32 | ZogG_laptop | =\ |
| 13:14.30 | M4rtinK | I'm just about to out |
| 13:14.38 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: rm -rf qtcreator |
| 13:14.40 | M4rtinK | but I should be back in about an hour |
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| 13:14.53 | M4rtinK | *go out |
| 13:14.59 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: ok |
| 13:15.10 | susundbe1g | hello all, i am trying to make silly app that can display a klm file in offline map with QT quick. I have all done to step where one should display the landmarks on the map -- map and parsing work fine, but i cannot find how on earth i can parse from c++ landmarks so that they become visible on the QML side |
| 13:15.10 | ZogG_laptop | i have problems with astebin timeouting on me |
| 13:15.41 | susundbe1g | i have checked the places around example that should do excatly what i want, and i do almost everything in the same way but still do not get anything to visible on QML side |
| 13:16.03 | M4rtinK | you can translate Mieru in the meantime: https://github.com/M4rtinK/mieru/tree/master/gui/qml/i18n :) |
| 13:16.20 | susundbe1g | any ideas how this should be done? I mean, when i have c++ landmarkmanger added with landmarks i want, how can the qml landmarkmodel display them? |
| 13:16.51 | djszapi | susundbe1g: QT != Qt |
| 13:17.00 | susundbe1g | My bad |
| 13:17.10 | djszapi | QT: Quick Time. |
| 13:17.44 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: ok, consider it's done =) |
| 13:17.46 | djszapi | wonders if people get the meaning of the Qt T-Shirt slogal "I am Qt", if they pronounce and spell that incorrectly. |
| 13:18.00 | djszapi | slogan* |
| 13:18.22 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: phako, rzr, X-Fade , Jaffa, whenu you have time check it out — http://pastebin.com/7xQGPFqx |
| 13:18.26 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: ok, thanks :) |
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| 13:20.30 | ieatlint | djszapi: personally i'd like to see a t-shirt from a qt event that doesn't consist of a pun on the word cute vs qt |
| 13:20.45 | ieatlint | i get it, funny, i have 4 different designs of the same god damn pun |
| 13:20.58 | tomma | 2 Qt 4 U |
| 13:21.01 | djszapi | you are complaining at the wrng place. |
| 13:21.19 | djszapi | why were you when this was /publicly/ discussed ? |
| 13:21.23 | djszapi | where* |
| 13:21.39 | ieatlint | unaware, apparently |
| 13:21.46 | ieatlint | i'd have spoken up if i saw the discussion |
| 13:22.08 | djszapi | I did not like the idea only because of the word Qt |
| 13:22.14 | djszapi | since it can be mispronounced |
| 13:22.23 | djszapi | and laymans do not get it all |
| 13:22.31 | djszapi | actually, even Digia devs pronounce that wrong. |
| 13:22.36 | ieatlint | eh, laymans not getting it is fine |
| 13:22.47 | djszapi | but I was unable to provide any better, so meh |
| 13:22.59 | ieatlint | it's just reusing the same pun over and over, and it was never that entertaining to start |
| 13:23.21 | djszapi | ieatlint: well, we decided about the slogan for next year: "I am still Qt" :D :D |
| 13:23.59 | ieatlint | right, next year.. |
| 13:24.14 | ieatlint | i resisted the temptation to say "i'll see you at dev days" |
| 13:24.21 | ieatlint | not sure i could've kept a straight face |
| 13:25.14 | djszapi | well, that is still before the end of world. |
| 13:25.36 | djszapi | Mayas anticipated that after the dev days :) |
| 13:26.52 | ieatlint | yes, the mayans saw selop coming :P |
| 13:27.44 | djszapi | Elop, not again.... |
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| 13:41.39 | DocScrutinizer05 | ieatlint: how's about "Qt == [kjuːt]" |
| 13:42.41 | ieatlint | loves things that begin with "no, you're saying it wrong, let me tell you how to pronounce it" |
| 13:43.31 | ieatlint | the people who are so "omg! you said "q t"!" make me want to replace my business cards so they say "Q.T." just to spite them |
| 13:43.32 | djszapi | ieatlint: you dislike non-native English women then :p |
| 13:43.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | XP |
| 13:44.45 | djszapi | ieatlint: well, common sense is not common |
| 13:45.07 | ieatlint | djszapi: a woman introducing herself by correcting you is about as appealing to me as me introducing myself to her by correcting her |
| 13:45.37 | djszapi | I think, you should just take it easy. |
| 13:45.45 | djszapi | it is not this embarrassing, as you think. |
| 13:45.54 | djszapi | also, from the first line of the wikipage: |
| 13:45.56 | ieatlint | was just on Angerstasse |
| 13:46.10 | djszapi | "Qt (play /ˈkjuːt/ "cute", or unofficially as Q-T cue-tee[5][6]) is a cross-platform application framework" |
| 13:46.24 | djszapi | so, it is not that, if you know anything about Qt, you cannot pronounce. |
| 13:46.35 | djszapi | most people just do not wanna pronounce correctly. |
| 13:46.35 | djszapi | well, I dislike that. |
| 13:47.20 | djszapi | but just to assure you, there are already a huge mismatching pronounciation standard ongoing around QBS. |
| 13:47.21 | ieatlint | sounds like we missed a chance to schedule a whole 50min discussion at the summit on pronunciation |
| 13:47.39 | djszapi | well, we did not. |
| 13:47.57 | djszapi | someone said at the summit, stupid people are stupid |
| 13:48.15 | djszapi | it is like distributing "plasma-active" or "active" |
| 13:48.17 | djszapi | how one likes. |
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| 13:48.28 | djszapi | or someone even calls those "plasma". |
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| 13:49.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | whatever that is "angerstrasse" |
| 13:49.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | reads "angsthase" |
| 13:49.46 | ieatlint | DocScrutinizer05: https://twitter.com/ieatlint/status/217222648558657536/photo/1/large |
| 13:49.48 | djszapi | totally insane to distribute totally different terms, pronounciations, etc. |
| 13:51.04 | ieatlint | had lunch by there earlier |
| 13:51.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | hm, probably I'm again missing the context |
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| 13:53.03 | ieatlint | eh, i still get to giggle every now and then as the english vs german meanings |
| 13:53.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | concludes Angestrasse must be in Duesseldorf? |
| 13:53.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | AAAH |
| 13:53.37 | ieatlint | a bit outside of it |
| 13:53.58 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, this been one of the instances when I did *not* notice this |
| 13:54.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | anger, ok! |
| 13:54.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-P |
| 13:54.23 | ieatlint | :P |
| 13:55.11 | DocScrutinizer05 | I frequently smile when looking at arbitrary German beer bottle labels, like "eku Hell" |
| 13:56.08 | aard_ | DocScrutinizer05: "Fucking Hell" |
| 13:56.09 | ieatlint | many a kid giggles in german classes in the US when their vocabularly list gives the german word for "thick" |
| 13:56.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | ;-) |
| 13:57.25 | ieatlint | my german is so hilariously bad that when i try to use it, people just respond in english |
| 13:57.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | Ass ( == ace ) also is nice |
| 13:57.51 | DocScrutinizer05 | hihi |
| 13:58.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | we (like everybody) appreciate much when you *try*, so we're just proud we could answer in english |
| 13:59.21 | ieatlint | yeah, everyone is always very nice about it |
| 14:00.21 | aard_ | in the nokia office my former colleagues told me they found the 'Ausfahrt' signs hilarious. took some explaining until I got it |
| 14:01.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | that for sure takes some explanations for me as well til I might get it |
| 14:01.16 | aard_ | 'fart' |
| 14:01.23 | DocScrutinizer05 | OMG |
| 14:01.27 | ieatlint | yeah, heh |
| 14:01.48 | ieatlint | i've also laughed at Rathaus |
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| 14:02.00 | ieatlint | too poetic for "Rathaus" to be city hall |
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| 14:02.43 | DocScrutinizer05 | seems to the point more often than not ;-D |
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| 14:06.40 | Lava_Croft | if you are a tourist in germany and thinking of going across the border to buy weed in the Netherlands, dont bother |
| 14:06.54 | ieatlint | lol |
| 14:07.01 | ieatlint | gee, thanks |
| 14:07.05 | Lava_Croft | no, really |
| 14:07.12 | ieatlint | yes, i'm aware of recent changes to the law |
| 14:07.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, a poor idea |
| 14:07.13 | Lava_Croft | the introduced some kind of potsmoker ID card |
| 14:07.33 | ieatlint | and also the fact that if i tried to bring it back over, i'd be very very sorry |
| 14:07.39 | Lava_Croft | so only true dutch people with a valid potsmoker ID card can buy pot in a coffeeshop |
| 14:07.45 | DocScrutinizer05 | exactly that |
| 14:07.47 | Lava_Croft | well, you can take it germany just fine |
| 14:07.55 | Lava_Croft | back to the USA orso, well... |
| 14:07.55 | DocScrutinizer05 | haha |
| 14:07.58 | aard_ | ieatlint: depends, if you don't have long hair or are not black there are good chances they'll not check you... |
| 14:08.05 | Lava_Croft | they will |
| 14:08.08 | ieatlint | but seeing as i don't smoke pot and i come from a place where the laws on pot are more lax than the netherlands, i'm not too concerned |
| 14:08.20 | Lava_Croft | our laws arent lax:) |
| 14:08.24 | Lava_Croft | our enforcement is |
| 14:09.03 | ieatlint | aard_: i got stopped driving into france once because they thought i had pot |
| 14:09.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed, laws in your place are amazingly liberal, ieatlint |
| 14:09.20 | Lava_Croft | i got stopped at the belgian border aeons ago |
| 14:09.22 | ieatlint | and my hair was neither long, and i'm quite pale |
| 14:09.27 | Lava_Croft | i was wearing a cypress hill tshirt |
| 14:09.37 | ieatlint | DocScrutinizer05: can't tell if that's sarcasm :P |
| 14:09.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | quite pale isn't good either ;-) |
| 14:10.17 | ieatlint | but in california, you can carry up to 28g of pot, and if you get caught, they confiscate the pot, and give you a citation that is legally equiv. to a parking ticket |
| 14:10.17 | DocScrutinizer05 | no sarcasm, I think they got this doctor's-prescription thing there, no? |
| 14:10.53 | Lava_Croft | we have prescription pot |
| 14:10.55 | ieatlint | and yep, if a doctor says pot will help you with a condition/disease, you get a card, and can then buy it from pot stores |
| 14:10.57 | aard_ | ieatlint: I've been living in aachen for some time, working in cologne. I sometimes got stopped several times a week at the trainstation |
| 14:11.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | here you're going to do time in jail, if odd comes to odd, when they catch you with >10g or sth |
| 14:11.32 | Lava_Croft | we also have government owned warehouses full of their sanctioned pot, because people rather get pot with actual THC |
| 14:12.01 | ieatlint | DocScrutinizer05: free housing, food and medical care? that sounds like a dream for an american :P |
| 14:12.29 | Lava_Croft | dream? |
| 14:12.33 | Lava_Croft | isnt that completely unamerican |
| 14:12.42 | Lava_Croft | free housing, free food and free medicare |
| 14:13.11 | ieatlint | no, especially when someone else is paying for it |
| 14:13.12 | Lava_Croft | a real american doesnt need free things |
| 14:13.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | of course your driver's licence is void as well, when they pick you up with weed |
| 14:13.59 | ieatlint | eh, only in germany for me, would still be valid elsewhere |
| 14:14.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | yep |
| 14:14.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | for Germans however it's like doing a idiot's test which costs some 1000 bucks |
| 14:15.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/it's like/it means/ |
| 14:15.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | and pissing into a bottle every week, for a year or longer |
| 14:15.46 | DocScrutinizer05 | and of course not smoking pot during that time |
| 14:15.50 | Lava_Croft | you know whats a funny thing to notice |
| 14:15.51 | ieatlint | yeah, california has a much more lax and ultimately scary attitude toward it all :/ |
| 14:15.56 | aard_ | ieatlint: depends if you're only on vacation in germany, or working (and registered) there |
| 14:15.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise, no driving |
| 14:16.01 | Lava_Croft | the cleaning cloth supplied with the N900 is rather horrible |
| 14:16.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 14:16.20 | Lava_Croft | certainly compared to the one that Apple supplies with (i think) their imacs |
| 14:16.31 | Lava_Croft | the apple one actually removes skinfat |
| 14:16.34 | ieatlint | aard_: indeed just here on vacation |
| 14:16.56 | ieatlint | and i doubt i'll do any driving either.. i'm taking the train to amsterdam wednesday |
| 14:17.06 | Lava_Croft | poor you:< |
| 14:17.31 | ieatlint | Lava_Croft: just get one of the cloths for cleaning eye glasses |
| 14:17.43 | Lava_Croft | ieatlint: i have apple cleaning cloths |
| 14:17.45 | ieatlint | they work extremely well on screens as well, and are cheap |
| 14:17.49 | Lava_Croft | and yeah, i know |
| 14:17.53 | Lava_Croft | the moist ones |
| 14:17.59 | Lava_Croft | they work really well |
| 14:18.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | ieatlint: you should rent a car and enjoy German highway, for an evening |
| 14:18.17 | ieatlint | no, i meant the dry cloths, although the moist single-use ones are good too |
| 14:18.27 | aard_ | Lava_Croft: my strategy is letting my wife see that my phone needs cleaning ;) |
| 14:18.36 | Lava_Croft | hah, i clean my wife's iphone:P |
| 14:18.38 | ieatlint | DocScrutinizer05: i've driven across Germany three times before :P |
| 14:18.53 | aard_ | (works with notebook displays as well) |
| 14:18.56 | ZogG_laptop | Lava_Croft: i thought you are female from your nick |
| 14:19.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | ok, then you probably don't get any thrill from it anymore :-) |
| 14:19.32 | aard_ | ZogG_laptop: having a wife does not mean that you have to be male nowadays :p |
| 14:19.33 | Lava_Croft | ZogG_laptop: sorry to break the spell then |
| 14:19.36 | ieatlint | you start in a city at 120km, suddenly no limit and you're going 160, then 5min later you're going 20kmh as you drive through road construction ... repeat each of those three in random order at 5min intervals |
| 14:19.40 | Lava_Croft | +! aard |
| 14:19.44 | Lava_Croft | er +1 |
| 14:19.49 | ZogG_laptop | aard_: bad idea, once my girl cleaned keyboard when the screen was just off and comp worked, i got kernel panic and it took me to ix it. dunno what she has done than |
| 14:20.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | ieatlint: well, that's true for some routes |
| 14:20.22 | ZogG_laptop | s/ix/fix/ |
| 14:20.48 | ZogG_laptop | damn, girl = girl friend |
| 14:21.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | actually it's hard to find a nice highway section without any tempo limits |
| 14:21.20 | ieatlint | there were a couple i remember |
| 14:21.33 | aard_ | ZogG_laptop: wrong choice of girlfriend, probably. maybe include 'clean the notebook without crashing it' in future dating |
| 14:21.46 | ieatlint | but i've always ended up in a shitty car that would top out at 200kmh downhill |
| 14:23.04 | DocScrutinizer05 | get a better car! ;-P |
| 14:23.53 | ieatlint | but i wanted to use diesel fuel |
| 14:24.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | aaah, yeah then... |
| 14:26.11 | ZogG_laptop | aard_: it was desktop |
| 14:26.38 | ZogG_laptop | aard_: i never had computer freak gf =\ |
| 14:27.00 | aard_ | ZogG_laptop: 'cleaning without breaking' != 'computer freak' :p |
| 14:27.25 | ZogG_laptop | aard_: ok, i'll rephrase, whose who understand anything in computers except facebook |
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| 14:28.08 | aard_ | ZogG_laptop: they only need to understand 'cleaning cloth' and 'detergent', the part about not breaking it can be karma or intuition. therefore the test when dating |
| 14:31.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | you don't even to understand "detergent" - simply don't touch it |
| 14:31.50 | DocScrutinizer05 | have to* |
| 14:32.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | slightly damp or even dry microfibre cloth is it |
| 14:33.23 | ieatlint | 's gf is a linux sysadmin :P |
| 14:33.32 | DocScrutinizer05 | WOAAAH! |
| 14:33.38 | ieatlint | she seems to do alright with computers and not breaking things |
| 14:35.13 | DocScrutinizer05 | I think I've seen like 3 female engineers in our whole ~400 people office |
| 14:36.31 | ieatlint | depressingly rare |
| 14:42.24 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: ping |
| 14:44.01 | merlin1991 | ZogG_laptop: pong |
| 14:44.11 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1227178#post1227178 |
| 14:47.09 | merlin1991 | ZogG_laptop: maybe put that on some place on the wiki too? |
| 14:47.24 | merlin1991 | I fear people searching for that info won't find it so easily on tmo :D |
| 14:48.04 | ZogG_laptop | merlin1991: i hope someone would do it, i sent woody the link |
| 14:49.04 | ZogG_laptop | i'm not good it howtos and formating and grammar, so i wouldn't do it. and i don't want btw after past events =) |
| 14:50.21 | ZogG_laptop | turns on mode — do for yourself maybe share it and mention it once, if someone sees it — good for them, if not — bad for them |
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| 15:27.16 | ZogG_laptop | beford: approved? |
| 15:27.26 | beford | hey ZogG_laptop , not yet |
| 15:27.28 | beford | :P |
| 15:27.34 | ZogG_laptop | =\ |
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| 15:34.30 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i would like you to build only russia version, so i don't need to change local to test the translation in app |
| 15:35.01 | ZogG_laptop | i pulled request for ya |
| 15:35.44 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: there is a --locale CLI option in Mieru for testing translations :) |
| 15:36.01 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: than can you build the deb ? |
| 15:36.34 | M4rtinK | (because I had the same problem before issue before :) ) |
| 15:37.16 | ZogG_laptop | too many before |
| 15:37.23 | ZogG_laptop | u see my pull request |
| 15:37.24 | M4rtinK | ok :) |
| 15:37.36 | ZogG_laptop | i just got confused in few things and it |
| 15:38.30 | ZogG_laptop | s better to see in app. and still not sure if i would translate it right, as it's not easy to find alternativies for some words |
| 15:40.08 | beford | I hope e-yes doesn't stop nitdroid dev |
| 15:42.24 | ZogG_laptop | beford: sorry to say to you that most chances he did |
| 15:42.34 | beford | oh well |
| 15:42.36 | beford | xD |
| 15:43.40 | beford | I need to learn russian |
| 15:43.48 | ZogG_laptop | and it's not coz he didn't get device, he wanted n950 only to support n950 better but could continue with n9 =) it's matter of principe' |
| 15:44.58 | beford | i know its his decision, and I support it |
| 15:45.59 | ZogG_laptop | beford: https://twitter.com/drunkdebugger/status/217242877443584001 |
| 15:46.32 | ZogG_laptop | https://twitter.com/drunkdebugger/status/217244074862841856 |
| 15:46.39 | ZogG_laptop | those too are enuf i think |
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| 15:55.01 | beford | yea |
| 15:57.13 | ZogG_laptop | too=two* |
| 15:59.59 | beford | uhm my n9 doesn't seem to be charging |
| 16:01.18 | ZogG_laptop | acidjunkie: mak your mind up |
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| 16:18.02 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: here you go: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/MartinK:/mieru/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/mieru_2.3.1_armel.deb |
| 16:19.16 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: run it with python /opt/mieru/mieru.py -u QML -p harmattan --locale ru |
| 16:32.07 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i'm taking out my mom and sister's daughter, so i'll do it lately |
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| 16:49.49 | vape | hello.. can anyone help me to find the emmc image to flash my nokia n9 ? |
| 16:50.25 | beford | !flashing |
| 16:50.31 | beford | ~flashing |
| 16:50.31 | infobot | methinks flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Flashing_N9 |
| 16:50.47 | teleshoes | hey itsnotabigtruck |
| 16:51.29 | teleshoes | is there any reason a script shouldnt exist to generate refhashlist? |
| 16:52.25 | teleshoes | not to be run automatically, because that would defeat the point of having it, but if done by a human, with a human seeing what changed, it should be a good thing, yea? |
| 16:53.27 | vape | I am not able to use navifirm... i need link... or if anyone has the navifirm, if he can help me, and find the emmc file link, then copy/paste it for me... |
| 17:03.23 | teleshoes | or does it already exist? |
| 17:07.14 | jonni | vape: navifirmex works in linux through wine. |
| 17:08.48 | jonni | teleshoes: atleast I have made me a perl script, that goes through refhashlist, and if it finds sha1sum differences, it patches the file and resigns it. So that kind of script exists. but most likely there isnt a script that generates it from scratch. |
| 17:09.02 | teleshoes | hah, i just did the same thing |
| 17:09.26 | teleshoes | it would be nice if that were in inception |
| 17:10.08 | jonni | not really, people are just to much of users to use that kind of feature |
| 17:10.20 | teleshoes | eh? |
| 17:10.22 | teleshoes | i dunno |
| 17:10.40 | teleshoes | like, someone just replaced their grob with the android one |
| 17:10.45 | teleshoes | run this magic script |
| 17:10.48 | teleshoes | et voila |
| 17:10.52 | teleshoes | no bootloops for breakfast |
| 17:11.12 | teleshoes | you cant really tell an enduser to edit the refhashlist and resign it with accli |
| 17:11.21 | teleshoes | but you could say type in terminal: fixy-hash-list |
| 17:13.51 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: no problem :) |
| 17:17.50 | jonni | teleshoes: definition of user: http://linuxi.org/user.png |
| 17:18.01 | teleshoes | mm |
| 17:18.04 | teleshoes | i mean |
| 17:18.08 | teleshoes | if they can get inception working... |
| 17:18.31 | jonni | if you offer fixy-hash-list for normal endusers, it causes more harm that good. |
| 17:18.44 | teleshoes | yea probably.. |
| 17:18.49 | teleshoes | i always have trouble envisioning how stupid people really are |
| 17:18.51 | jonni | if endusers doesnt known howto sign refhashlist with accli, then he shouldnt be doing it. |
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| 17:19.41 | teleshoes | sigh |
| 17:19.50 | teleshoes | i just wish the world wasnt a moron |
| 17:21.55 | jonni | its handy for advanced users, but for them writing such a script takes 5 minutes, so most likely thats why there has not been any need to share that kind of scripts. |
| 17:22.44 | teleshoes | yea |
| 17:22.59 | teleshoes | anyway, it would have saved me 5 min, |
| 17:23.02 | teleshoes | so im going to post it |
| 17:23.10 | teleshoes | or rather arie is |
| 17:23.49 | jonni | just remember to add disclaimers, that they propably shouldn't use it unless they allready know how accli works and have signed refhashlist manually before. |
| 17:24.00 | teleshoes | mm |
| 17:24.15 | teleshoes | btw, i didnt realize that missing files didnt bootloop |
| 17:24.35 | teleshoes | there are hundreds of files in the hash list that arent on my phone |
| 17:24.39 | teleshoes | is that normal/expected? |
| 17:25.14 | jonni | it depends on missing files, some missing files do cause malf, depends if they are marked as mandatory or not. |
| 17:25.45 | teleshoes | ah |
| 17:25.46 | teleshoes | thx |
| 17:35.13 | heymaster | I have few labels and textfields and they not fit on the screen ? How to view scrollable ? (in QML) ? |
| 17:35.33 | heymaster | make view* |
| 17:38.28 | phako | That's a flickable |
| 17:39.15 | heymaster | phako: thanks |
| 17:39.35 | heymaster | phako: it's container ? |
| 17:39.53 | heymaster | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Implementing_horizontally_scrolling_view_with_QML_Flickable |
| 17:42.17 | heymaster | phako: I required to specify contentHeight ? |
| 17:42.33 | phako | yes, otherwise it doesn't work |
| 17:43.30 | heymaster | phako: I can specify parent width and height ? |
| 17:44.02 | phako | http://gitorious.org/helium/tweakup/blobs/master/qml/TweakUp/MainPage.qml |
| 17:45.15 | Kozzi | ZogG_laptop: |
| 17:45.50 | Kozzi | ZogG: do you plan to add gif support to imgrup ? |
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| 17:49.28 | Kozzi | Image element doesn't seem to support it but with WebView you can display gif images |
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| 18:00.54 | tomma | and with AnimatedImage |
| 18:04.07 | heymaster | phako: thanks |
| 18:04.30 | Kozzi | eh.. the version I have seems to be ancient.. the latest code use animatedimage |
| 18:04.41 | heymaster | anyone knows how parent.height to int or real? |
| 18:04.52 | heymaster | convert* |
| 18:05.45 | heymaster | specifically: Unable to assign QDeclarativeAnchorLine to double |
| 18:08.02 | Kozzi | AnimatedImage doesn't seem to work with this http://imgur.com/gallery/DzuBJ |
| 18:08.49 | heymaster | looks like worked property real val1: parent.width |
| 18:11.18 | heymaster | no, havent |
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| 19:29.45 | aparaatti | Hi, can I somehow recover security code without wiping my personal info? |
| 19:30.17 | aparaatti | or does some one know, what will be wiped as personal info... |
| 19:30.28 | jonni | aparaatti: not unless you work for nokia :) |
| 19:30.58 | aparaatti | jonni: ok... thanks |
| 19:31.02 | jonni | for others secure wipe wipes all the personal info to factory defaults |
| 19:31.19 | aparaatti | jonni: so it will also delete the apps? |
| 19:31.24 | jonni | yes |
| 19:31.40 | aparaatti | ...and if I take backups will they recover apps? |
| 19:32.07 | jonni | nope backup only backups calender, contacts, etc, so you need to reinstall apps one by one. |
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| 19:33.08 | jonni | atleast currently... in the future there might be alternative backup application that recovers also the apps. |
| 19:33.55 | aparaatti | could I manually like copy /opt/ or something? |
| 19:35.36 | jonni | no luck as checksums wont match. if you use openmode, then its another story. |
| 19:36.07 | Kozzi | aparaatti: that's why always backup your debs |
| 19:36.26 | Kozzi | especially those which you buy from ovi store |
| 19:38.16 | aparaatti | does it save the debs somewhere? |
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| 19:39.44 | aparaatti | I |
| 19:40.24 | aparaatti | I'm just going travelling tomorrow, so wondered if I could get locking working... |
| 19:40.24 | Kozzi | when you download from ovi store, it saves them temporally somewhere |
| 19:42.00 | aparaatti | but I guess I'll just live without for now :) |
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| 19:42.48 | jonni | and ofcourse if you have set trusted person, then you can recover the code easily :) |
| 19:43.22 | jonni | but most likely you havent, since otherwise you wouldnt be asking the question :) |
| 19:44.05 | aparaatti | yup not that... I guess I added the trac&protect password at some point, and now I have no idea what it was... T |
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| 19:45.04 | jonni | yep thats quite common that people havent setup the code before setting up t&p, and there there is noway to know whats the code. |
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| 19:48.05 | aparaatti | ok, thanks for info, good night |
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| 20:04.28 | ZogG_laptop | loooool |
| 20:04.34 | ZogG_laptop | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-meeting-irclog/%23maemo-meeting.2012-06-22.log.html#t2012-06-22T21:20:12 |
| 20:05.36 | ZogG_laptop | only few speak and they are too loud =) and do not care they'll forget in a week, and nobody happy with leaderes =) |
| 20:05.39 | ZogG_laptop | it's just amuse me |
| 20:07.54 | ZogG_laptop | and fund raising ? i wouldn't donate a penny for people that would decide if they deserve for themselves to buy something from that money =) |
| 20:08.08 | ZogG_laptop | and everyone said to let it go =) |
| 20:13.23 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: where exactly? on upload preview? as i think i fixed gifs in gallery |
| 20:14.52 | ZogG_laptop | itsnotabigtruck: ^ read the link above, the point of why the people were upset and conflict of interests were switched to talk about Arie |
| 20:14.55 | ZogG_laptop | niiiiice |
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| 21:42.54 | HtheB | does anyone know if I can flash my device without removing anything that is already in the device? |
| 21:44.45 | jonni | HtheB: no you cant. You can use flasher to append stuff, but only if you have R&D certificate. |
| 21:45.03 | HtheB | just flash rootfs shouldnt that do the job? |
| 21:45.12 | HtheB | flasher-3.5 -F <FIASCO image> -u |
| 21:45.35 | jonni | that wipes refhashlist, ie all your apps are invalidated. |
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| 21:46.42 | jonni | and if you dont have R&D cert, anyways if you flash only parts, it triggers open mode, only way to avoid it is R&D cert. |
| 21:46.58 | HtheB | already have open mode :p |
| 21:47.50 | jonni | well then the question is what data you want to save? if you only need to save emmc content, then its safe to flash rootfs image. |
| 21:48.41 | HtheB | yes, although actually |
| 21:48.50 | HtheB | there were some pictures within /user/private ¬_¬ |
| 21:48.52 | jonni | or you can just make backup using rsync, and flash and restore. |
| 21:49.04 | HtheB | device doesnt turn on anymore :P |
| 21:49.06 | HtheB | stays on the Nokia logo |
| 21:49.16 | HtheB | the damn device autoremoved everything |
| 21:49.25 | HtheB | since I've updated to the N9 repositories |
| 21:49.29 | HtheB | (using N950) |
| 21:49.48 | HtheB | I did manually install the packages, but it still somehow autoremoved it everything |
| 21:49.58 | HtheB | it wiped litterly everything from the device, lol |
| 21:50.17 | HtheB | so ended up with an unbootable device now |
| 21:50.19 | jonni | ah, so you didnt fully followed n9 tweak that removes that autoremove feature :) |
| 21:50.26 | HtheB | exactly |
| 21:50.27 | HtheB | :D |
| 21:50.33 | HtheB | the thing from yesterday |
| 21:50.47 | HtheB | should have listened to you ¬_¬ |
| 21:51.10 | HtheB | but I did try it out last night to autoremove anything, but it didn't remove anything.. so I dont know what happened now O_o |
| 21:51.26 | HtheB | I just figured out that the harmattan flasher doesnt have the -u option? |
| 21:51.45 | jonni | as you are already openmode, you can use malf rescue wiki instructions to backup your data |
| 21:52.09 | jonni | ie. mount the device in linux and tar the stuff as backup, and then reflash. |
| 21:53.39 | jonni | -u option was never the right one, you can say --flash-only=rootfs, but if you have pics in /user/private, then you 1st need to use malf instructions to backup date, before flashing rootfs, as it will nuke your private dir |
| 21:53.52 | HtheB | got a link for me? |
| 21:54.08 | jonni | http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state |
| 21:54.12 | HtheB | thanks! |
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| 21:55.46 | jonni | basicly follow untill 7, and mount the partitions that you want and backup your data. and then reflash the device |
| 21:55.52 | HtheB | ill be rebooting now |
| 21:55.56 | HtheB | into linux |
| 21:55.58 | HtheB | brb :D |
| 21:56.01 | HtheB | (you made my day already! _ |
| 22:00.06 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: tell me more about R&D certificate? |
| 22:12.04 | jonni | unfortunately the topic in this channel limits in going into details about that. |
| 22:13.36 | jonni | makes internal development so much easier, is the short answer. |
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| 22:14.40 | HtheB | jonni: |
| 22:14.51 | HtheB | Couldnt get it to work :( |
| 22:20.34 | jonni | at which step you got stuck? |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | 5 |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | it flashed everything right on step 2 |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | (step 3) |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | It doesnt show any new device :/ |
| 22:20.34 | jonni | and flasher command said successfull? |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | yes |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_3.2012.02-6_PR_RM680 Sending kernel image (2497 kB)... 100% (2497 of 2497 kB, avg. 3206 kB/s) Sending initfs image (1920 kB)... 100% (1920 of 1920 kB, avg. 1026 kB/s) Success |
| 22:20.34 | jonni | hmm, and linux dmesg didnt show any device appearing? |
| 22:20.34 | HtheB | no |
| 22:20.35 | jonni | and hopefully you have native linux and not virtualbox. |
| 22:20.35 | HtheB | heh |
| 22:20.35 | HtheB | I should try that out -_- |
| 22:20.35 | HtheB | couldnt find my live cd |
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| 22:20.35 | HtheB | kicks his own ass for not having linux (anymore) on his laptop |
| 22:20.35 | HtheB | ok, im going to search for the cd -_- |
| 22:20.35 | jonni | yeah that slows things down a bit, since usually that malf wiki only works on native ones, as vmware and virtualbox has troubles detecting the device mode. |
| 22:20.36 | jonni | or your lucky if you manage to map the new usbdevice to virtual side :) |
| 22:20.36 | HtheB | found a live cd :) |
| 22:20.44 | HtheB | time to boot into ubuntu natively |
| 22:20.48 | HtheB | hope this one will help |
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| 22:39.55 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: you mean no nda? |
| 22:40.04 | ZogG_laptop | we can talk #n9 =) |
| 22:58.20 | rzr | hi thp may u have a couple of minute to help on ovi symbian ? |
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