IRC log for #harmattan on 20120727

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00:01.06befordnothing
00:01.10beford:P
00:01.25ZogG_laptopbeford: ok
00:01.51befordneed to think fast though, i'll check this weekend
00:02.32heymasterbeford: how much time you need to write app?
00:04.58befordheymaster: maybe a week working a couple of hours during the night, nothing complicated, "simple" apps
00:05.20heymaster-laptop:)
00:05.21heymaster-laptopcool
00:07.11befordheymaster: what are you working on? coding competition?
00:08.58heymaster-laptopbeford: I'm trying. about 1 month and still don't anything to show. few qml files and cpp. Trying to write app for competition. Don't own harmattan device, so it's best bet.
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00:10.11heymaster-laptopopportunity to work with harmattan..
00:10.28befordi can help you test if you need, also development advice as long as my knowledge allows it
00:10.38heymaster-laptopbeford: thanks
00:11.17ZogG_laptopi said i can test as well, and it's still positive =)
00:11.53heymaster-laptopat least now need to write something working, because now there is nothing to show
00:11.56heymaster-laptopthanks :)
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00:21.51heymasterlooks like this is friendly and positive community.. thinking in feature to contribute to opensource project (any) .. never committed any code to opensource project
00:23.16heymasterlooks like best way to learn how to program is to contribute to opensource
00:23.21ZogG_laptopbeford: i have an idea for your app =)
00:24.27heymasterZogG_laptop: I think I will stick to ServerMonitor like app for now
00:27.49befordZogG_laptop: tell me
00:29.48ZogG_laptopbeford: i lack the transmission remote
00:29.51ZogG_laptopit's rpc
00:30.01befordah sounds nice
00:30.09befordI use transmission on mac and linux too
00:30.41heymastertransmission is torrent client ?
00:30.44heymaster:)
00:30.57befordI think so
00:31.28heymasterso rpc is "remote procedure call" .. don
00:32.36heymasterdon't see any similarity
00:32.42heymaster:)
00:36.08befordyea RPC, let me check if there is any opensource alternative to base a project for harmattan
00:38.32heymasteraah, haven't read what he talking about transmission remote :)
00:39.47heymasterI always thought what rpc is binary code execution on remote host
00:40.06ZogG_laptopbeford: i think there were client for maemo but not sure if opensource
00:40.16ZogG_laptopand there are clients dor desktop
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02:11.46itsnotabigtruckpa: still around?
02:11.59ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: is it?
02:12.02itsnotabigtruckthe problem is that when you ping me, i'm at work :(
02:12.05itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: /me sighs
02:12.25ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: knock knock
02:13.15itsnotabigtruckwho's there :p
02:13.29ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: update
02:14.04ZogG_laptopwaited for "what update" to answer WP8 update
02:14.11ZogG_laptop=\
02:14.19ZogG_laptopitsnotabigtruck: sup man
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02:22.21ZogG_laptophaha
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03:56.55itsnotabigtruckZogG_laptop: not a lot
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05:27.08ieatlinthaha, an "nfc exploit" for the n9 was presented at black hat
05:27.56ieatlintapparently if you take an n9, turn on nfc, then turn off "confirm sharing and connecting" ... it won't ask you to confirm connection and sharing!!!!111
05:28.07jonniold news
05:28.16ieatlintand then you can cause it to connect to bluetooth devices!!!!!!
05:28.27ieatlintblack hat is clearly getting better
05:29.01ieatlintand frankly, the fact that when i disable security features leaves me open to attack is simply unexpected, scary, and unacceptable
05:38.19jonniieatlint: your trolling, right? Since this has alrady been talked in TMO 2 days ago? Its just like if you disable security features in PC, like disable antivirus and change browser to autoexecute .exe files, if that leaves me open to attack, is simply unexpected, scary and unacceptable?
05:41.49jonnisometimes I miss the trolls and sarcastic jokes, then people forget to add ;-) to the end of the sentenses...
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06:56.45ieatlintjonni: no, it's no joke
06:57.08ieatlintit's simply unaaceptable that disabling security features removes security protections
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06:59.36chem|stthat is like "why am I driffting with my car when I disable traction control?"
06:59.42chem|st-f
07:01.00ieatlinthardly, because that still leaves me in control of the situation
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08:30.17chem|stieatlint: you only think you are
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08:59.53ZogG_laptopchem|st: ieatlint: just do not hug strangers, and your phone would be safe
09:03.39phakohey, could people with PR1.3 post me the sha1sum + size of /usr/lib/libjpeg62.so.62.0.0 ?
09:03.47phakoI've a rather interesting effect :-/
09:04.09chem|stZogG_laptop: I cannot even get a tag in my wallet with only 1mm leather in between...
09:05.01chem|stand dafuq I cannot play .mov .mpg .flv ...
09:05.13chem|stbut mp4...
09:05.27chem|stis this a good idea? http://www.gnuton.org/blog/2011/11/gstreamer-ffmpeg-for-meego-1-2-harmattan/
09:05.40ZogG_laptopchem|st: u can get tag in your wallet, because you should know what tag on your wallet should do. just don't use NFC in unknown places with unknown devices and people. after all scam is just about tricking people!
09:06.40ZogG_laptopchem|st: there was thread aboout it. but all i need is avi and mkv =)
09:06.53chem|stZogG_laptop: I cannot read the tag if INSIDE my wallet... and I have nfc off as there are not many people with nfc phones out there yet
09:06.56ZogG_laptopchem|st: actually never played a single video
09:07.13chem|stI have lots of stuff in mpg and mov
09:07.59ZogG_laptopchem|st: stock player, mplayer?
09:08.12chem|stand everything downloaded from youtube... all music videos I have are mpg or mov too
09:08.25chem|ststock player
09:09.03ZogG_laptopchem|st: try OpenVideoPlayer
09:09.05chem|stfancy sputter movies from work are mpg
09:09.27chem|stI WANT THE STOCK PLAYER TO PLAY FSCKING SHIT!
09:10.06ZogG_laptopchem|st: add codec support than. i'll say more some youtube videos are flv and wouldn't be played =)
09:10.11chem|stenough that musicplayer's playlist management is fscked
09:11.04chem|stbut videoplayer not supporting basic containers is fscked
09:11.15chem|sttoo
09:11.29chem|stsome stuff driving me crazy
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09:11.56ZogG_laptopchem|st: stock things are never good =)
09:12.47chem|stbut why is there no additional codec package yet? do people like to install 6 players to support all stuff?
09:13.21ZogG_laptopchem|st: i dunno, it was discussed. i just never played movies on n9 or n900
09:13.31paanyone familiar with qtmobility location?
09:13.34ZogG_laptopbut i think openplayer is good enuf
09:13.42pathe accuracy sucks so hard. i was thinking how to improve
09:13.57pado you think a moving average would be a good solution?
09:14.40ArkanoiD-used to watch movies a lot on n900 + pico pojector combo
09:14.48ZogG_laptopchem|st: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79537&highlight=openvideoplayer
09:16.13ZogG_laptopchem|st: the problem is that there is no proper repo for that
09:18.23ZogG_laptopchem|st: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/platform-api-reference/showdoc.php?pkn=gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad&wb=daily-docs&url=Li94bWwvZGFpbHktZG9jcy9nc3RyZWFtZXIwLjEwLXBsdWdpbnMtYmFk
09:19.08paand also: do you know whether it exist a free world elevation map?
09:19.20paaltitude from gps is almost random
09:20.21ZogG_laptoppa: what is elevation?
09:20.28paaltitude
09:21.34ZogG_laptoppa: did yo ucheck openmap?
09:21.47paim checking openstreetmap, is that the same?
09:22.07ZogG_laptopyeap, basicaly.
09:22.24ZogG_laptopmaybe openstreetmap is part of openmap or it's the same
09:23.01ZogG_laptopor it;s not
09:23.28pais openmap openmap.bbn.com?
09:23.45ZogG_laptoppa: i thought that openmap is openstreetmap till now
09:23.53ZogG_laptoppa: that's what google says
09:24.11paanyway, on openstreetmap it seems elevation is very sparse
09:24.54pai'd need more or less a grid over which to interpolate
09:26.40pawhat is a "5 minute latitude/longitude grid"??
09:26.44pa5 minutes?
09:27.01pahow do they measure it in minutes?
09:28.56paoh, maybe i found it
09:28.58pa30 meters
09:28.59pacool
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09:37.04chem|stZogG_laptop: OVP does not add codecs...
09:37.45ZogG_laptopchem|st: let's build additional codes than
09:39.38chem|stpa: 5minutes lon/lat are different depending to where you are they are only square at zero lon/xlat
09:39.50chem|stZogG_laptop: see the link!
09:40.48chem|stwhat does -bad mean
09:41.18ZogG_laptopchem|st: did you try it?
09:42.11chem|stZogG_laptop: I was asking if it is ok to install
09:43.08ZogG_laptopchem|st: it is ok
09:44.16ZogG_laptopchem|st: i may try to build it later, just check if it's working
09:44.35ZogG_laptoprzr: ping
09:45.21ZogG_laptopchem|st: we need to set up some repo for libs and such things like MohammadAG did. or ask him permission to put stuff on his repo =)
09:50.16chem|stthafuck
09:50.22chem|stbad is installed..
09:52.03ZogG_laptopchem|st: bad is meta imho
09:52.41ZogG_laptopchem|st: btw you can record video straight on n9 of n9 screen
09:52.55chem|stis it actually safe to apt-get install stuff?
09:53.49chem|stdo I need to restart something?
09:57.23ZogG_laptopchem|st: i don't think you need to restart. but again i dunno a lot about how stock player works. need to look into that
09:59.34ZogG_laptopchem|st: did you install packages from blog?
10:02.32chem|stno repos
10:04.12ZogG_laptoptry one from link you sent
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10:07.56pai wonder if some smartass has ever been able to download the whole ASTER GDEM dataset..
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10:11.17chem|stZogG_laptop: libs and plugins do not want to install
10:11.29ZogG_laptopchem|st: what are the errors?
10:11.56chem|stwrong installation package
10:12.58ZogG_laptopchem|st: i'm going to buy things for weekend, i'll brb and i'll try myself. we'll see how it goes =)
10:13.37chem|stand nokia did cut out plugins from good!
10:14.45ZogG_laptopgstream-good?
10:15.08ZogG_laptopit's metapackage as well right? so we can just repackage it with more codecs than
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10:21.56chem|sthmm
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10:25.27chem|stok rebooting did not do anything... I need ffmpeg it seems
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11:06.31phakomeh, looks like PR1.3 screwed up tracker :(
11:07.01ZogG_laptopphako: not really? why?
11:07.47phakoZogG_laptop: does /usr/lib/tracker/tracker-extract -f <some JPEG> spit out a lot of SPARQL for you?
11:08.10ZogG_laptopphako: what that command does before i run it?
11:08.48phakoZogG_laptop: just print out the sparql tracker would use to insert information into its database, if you run it on commandline it's for debugging purposes only
11:09.03phakoso won't change anything
11:09.04ZogG_laptoplemme check
11:09.34ZogG_laptopphako: i just already run one command that erased all contacts and sms's so i prefer to double check now =)
11:09.42phakonah, that's safe
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11:11.22ZogG_laptopphako: you want ooutput? i have a lot of it there
11:11.40phakoZogG_laptop: what's the last line?
11:12.05ZogG_laptopphako: i think it didn't work
11:12.13phakois it "SPARQL Item:"
11:12.19phakoor "nmm:meteringMode ..."
11:12.41ZogG_laptopphako: wait it fails on finding the dir i use =)
11:12.46phakoheh
11:13.17ZogG_laptopphako: the last block is info
11:13.32phakolike proper sparql with lots of nmm: stuff?
11:13.34ZogG_laptopSPARQL pre-update:
11:13.40ZogG_laptopSPARQL item:
11:13.52ZogG_laptopand than block of a nfo:Image :
11:13.58phakook
11:14.03ZogG_laptopwith widwth and other stuff
11:14.13phakocan you sha1sum /usr/lib/libjpeg62.so.62.0.0 ?
11:14.38ZogG_laptopwhat is nmm:dlnaProfile =) does dlna need it at all?
11:14.44phakoZogG_laptop: yes
11:14.56phakoneeded to check compatibility between devices
11:15.08phakoand you don't really want to know the rules to compute the profile
11:16.02ZogG_laptoplemme paste it from phone
11:16.14ZogG_laptopdidn't ssh (changed ip or keys =]
11:16.17phako029b...
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11:16.34phakoor 14e5
11:17.22ZogG_laptopneither
11:17.27phakoo.O
11:17.30phakooh man
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11:17.45ZogG_N96e98ceb6c0ce7ab40f33e6a496d4cc5d8dfdd2b8  /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
11:18.01ZogG_laptopthat one
11:18.03phakosize?
11:18.58ZogG_N9ls -l /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
11:19.11ZogG_laptopdamn
11:19.16ZogG_laptopit didn't paste whoole thing
11:21.41phako184292 or 182812 ?
11:21.44phakoor something else
11:22.22ZogG_laptop184292
11:22.31phakoyeah, that's the working one
11:22.35phako:-/
11:22.39phakodid you flash or ota?
11:22.43ZogG_laptopso it's probably you only
11:22.47ZogG_laptopphako: flashed
11:22.50phakono, my colleague has the same issue
11:22.58ZogG_laptopphako: just apt-get reinstall ?
11:23.11phakoZogG_laptop: gives you the "broken" one, even on working phone
11:23.19ZogG_laptopphako: at least you saw other n9 than yours, i didn't =(
11:23.35ZogG_laptophope to see damagedspline and maybe MohammadAG at 7th =)
11:25.09ZogG_laptopphako: that's why i like gentoo with tools like revdep-rebuild and others to check libs and deps are built right =)
11:25.22phakowell I've a nerdpornpicture of a set of four in all colors ;)
11:26.18ZogG_laptopo.O
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11:30.35phakohttp://www.flickr.com/photos/11237582@N04/7655681752/in/photostream
11:34.33ZogG_laptopphako: FU!!!!!!!!!
11:34.51phakoZogG_laptop: relax, only the blue one is mine
11:34.58faenilhey hey hey
11:35.07faenilwhat's this news about a new meego device coming on 7th?
11:35.07ZogG_laptopphako: doesn't matter, still FUUU!
11:38.24MohammadAGZogG_laptopchem|st: we need to set up some repo for libs and such things like MohammadAG did. or ask him permission to put stuff on his repo =)
11:38.28MohammadAGisn't it better to use rzr's repo for that?
11:38.44paok, so why y = parent.top -30 works, but y=parent.top - toppage.intproperty does not?
11:38.45MohammadAGalthough I hate OBS, but still
11:39.26ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: nope, i mean clean repo, we all respect to rzr, he didn't check half of things he built. we need something checked and stable only. maybe even testing->stable plan
11:39.34ZogG_laptopand yes i hate OBS too =)
11:39.40ZogG_laptopyesterday we had really nice discussion on #maemo capacity screens vs resistance
11:39.46ZogG_laptopthe opposite argument was than harmattan is for fanboys and facebook users coz resistance is better =) and doesn't matter what i said i was called windows user and fanboy =)
11:41.56ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: so are you free at 7th?
11:47.24MohammadAGZogG_laptop, doubt it, exams
11:47.38ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: btw why didn't you add system-ui to your repo? no way to sign it with inception before or something like that?
11:47.41MohammadAGZogG_laptop, I'll happily set up the repo, but I'm not aware of a method to upload to my server without knowing the user pass
11:47.52ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i finished exams and have new semester =)
11:47.52MohammadAGZogG_laptop, broad range of users
11:48.06MohammadAGPR1.2 beta N950, PR1.2 N9, PR1.3 N9
11:48.13MohammadAGand the package's name is system-ui
11:48.25ZogG_laptop=\
11:48.40MohammadAGplus I can't bump version number due to metapackage
11:48.40ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: we'll need to figure that out for CSSU anyway =P
11:48.46MohammadAGthis sort of issue needs that
11:49.41ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: we can make something to upload over http with login and password =)
11:51.04MohammadAGyou, not me :p
11:51.27ZogG_laptopi'll check. we dont want to repeat your wordpress experience
11:51.41ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: you have full access there?
11:52.26ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i thought if git-ftp can suite us ( as well keep uptodate of all repo users)
11:53.36ZogG_laptopchem|st: so back to codecs
11:53.49chem|styes?
11:53.57ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: do you have any knowledge about codecs on N9 /N900?
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11:54.10khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, hi
11:54.11ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: sup
11:54.43khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, what is exactly the problem you have ? any log ? launching make with python 3 or 2.7 ?
11:55.03MohammadAGnope, never used them
11:55.07MohammadAGZogG_laptop, user access only
11:55.31ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: default is 2.7
11:55.50ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: http://pastebin.com/V2kHJBET
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11:56.33ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i may try to get host, but not sure. need to ask one of the friends =)
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11:58.26rzrZogG_laptop, my repo is a temp place before appformeego
11:58.26rzri cant do all myself ... just fork and fix what's wrong ...
11:58.27rzrlater
11:59.48khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, strange can't reproduce it
11:59.50ZogG_laptoprZr: i was talking more about making system repo. not devel one. like in maemo we have testing stable and extratesting
12:00.10ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: any other info i can provide?
12:00.40khertan__n130i ll try to understand what happen before
12:00.48khertan__n130and i ll probably have questions
12:01.50khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, can you post the content of your make ?
12:01.54khertan__n130make.py
12:02.33ZogG_laptop<PROTECTED>
12:02.34ZogG_laptopYour paste can be seen here: http://bpaste.net/show/37112/
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12:03.51khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, you have still bugged version of make
12:04.02khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, are you sure you catch the last one from github ?
12:04.23ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: i did git fetch upstream while upstream is your repo
12:06.12khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, git fetch fetch remote change in a branch are you sure you use that branch ?
12:06.39MohammadAGspeaking of which
12:06.46MohammadAGhow does one submit to appsformeego?
12:07.36chem|stZogG_laptop: I will be back on tuesday... !
12:08.11ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: i use master branch afaik
12:08.18MohammadAGnevermind, there's a big ass submit your app button
12:08.27ZogG_laptopchem|st: i don't promise anything but i'll play with it
12:08.35khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, :) git pull merge it automatically
12:08.53ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: you just build it in OBS and than you submit
12:08.56khertan__n130or git fetch;git merge origin master
12:09.18khertan__n130MohammadAG, build package in obs
12:09.58MohammadAGAt this time it is only possible to submit a package which has no external dependencies, other than what is provided in the SDK. If you need other libraries for instance, then you should link them in statically. We're looking into adding shared dependencies, but that still needs discussion.
12:09.59khertan__n130MohammadAG, then create a submit request with MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan:Apps:Testing
12:10.00MohammadAGthat's fun
12:10.09khertan__n130MohammadAG, MeeGo:1.2:Harmattan:Apps:Testing
12:10.14ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: git merge master upstream/master
12:10.32khertan__n130MohammadAG, wiki.meego.com/MeeGo_Apps/Submit
12:10.54ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: yeap, that's why i said we need proper repo =)
12:10.55khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, depends how you name it in config :
12:10.57khertan__n130:)
12:11.21ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: yours is upstream and both have master
12:11.30MohammadAGkhertan__n130, how long does it take to import?
12:11.40ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: it worked =P
12:11.48khertan__n130MohammadAG, less than for building in home
12:12.04MohammadAGlol
12:12.12khertan__n130take 2 hours when a package is built to appear in my home: repository
12:12.24ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: it even made deb and all
12:12.26khertan__n130take 2 to 10min to appear in harmattan:apps:testing
12:12.33ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: but you have it built right?
12:12.39khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, yeah :)
12:12.59khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, it s even support aegis digsigsum and aegis manifest file now
12:13.05ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: than i can't help you anymore =P
12:13.06MohammadAGThese are in the SDK right? PKGCONFIG += QJson qmafw qmafw-shared meegotouch meegotouch-boostable
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12:13.17khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, but you help me a lot :)
12:13.29khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, i take example in imgrup files
12:13.30khertan__n130
12:13.31khertan__n130;)
12:13.48ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: i think. just try to build and see how it goes. you need those in control file though. you building in qtcreator or sb?
12:14.06ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: =P
12:14.17khertan__n130and do not forget build-depends in control file need to be in dsc file too :)
12:14.35MohammadAGdsc is autogenerated
12:14.43MohammadAGunless you're building debs improperly :p
12:14.44ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: than thanks phako, i just summed up his idea and way he build them and now as repay i help everyone with those problems =)
12:14.55khertan__n130MohammadAG, i was building the tools to generate it in python on device
12:14.56khertan__n130:)
12:15.22khertan__n130dpkg tools didn't works directly on device
12:15.37MohammadAGthen dev on a PC :p
12:15.46ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: if you use mostly QtCreator to build i have scripts on making it easier than in wiki. i wrote howto how to use QtCreator and upload to apps4meego if you interested
12:16.00khertan__n130MohammadAG, but this is a computer !
12:16.00MohammadAGI just do a symlink ZogG_laptop :P
12:16.15ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: khertan__n130 likes to do it on laptop but with ssh on device =P
12:16.16MohammadAGln -s qtc_packaging/debian_harmattan debian
12:16.39khertan__n130THIS IS A COMPUTER (with german voice of the mad scientist from IronSky)
12:16.42ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: nope. it's not the way and as well do not add steps as in wiki
12:17.04khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, MohammadAG no ssh access in the metro without network
12:17.06MohammadAGZogG_laptop, my debian folder is proper, don't worry
12:17.26MohammadAGno WiFi in the metro?
12:17.31MohammadAGIsrael's buses have WiFi
12:17.34khertan__n130MohammadAG, i live in france
12:17.35ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: the qtcreator's differ from debian. as you need to comment/uncomment stuff
12:17.47khertan__n130there is wifi ... in some station only and if you paid a lot for it
12:17.51MohammadAGZogG_laptop, yes, I'm aware
12:18.00khertan__n13020Euros 4hours
12:18.07khertan__n130and you need to use it in 10 days
12:18.33ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: phako's script allow you not to do it manualy and does all work generating dsc and tar.gz
12:18.46khertan__n130in few day i ll use an other phone isp
12:18.57khertan__n130one that don't block every other port than 80
12:19.01MohammadAGZogG_laptop, I prefer to use dpkg-buildpackage rather than some scripts
12:19.08MohammadAGit's the proper debian way
12:19.22khertan__n130phone isp that lock ssh are evil
12:19.33ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: it actually uses it, just keeps QtCreator without changes
12:19.39ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1227178&postcount=75
12:20.10ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/generate-obs-source
12:21.09MohammadAGZogG_laptop, or just ln -s qtc_packaging/debian_harmattan/ debian
12:21.09ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: all you do you comment lines for obs with "##OBS " and it will cp harmattan_debian to debian, make the voodoo and delete them
12:21.13MohammadAGno need to edit both sources
12:21.25MohammadAGand use dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -sn -S to make tar.gz
12:22.09ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: okay, whatever, just some dependencies are needed by OBS by breaks the building on qtcreator so i use ##OBS in control and rules and than change them
12:22.42MohammadAGI don't get it, my sources builds fine in Qt Creator and scratchbox
12:23.28ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: for example in qwazix app he needs libfcam-dev for OBS but it can't find it on QtCreator ( though i installed it with mad-admin)
12:23.59MohammadAGif you installed it correctly it should work
12:24.10MohammadAGyou properly installed the -dev package without the actual lib package
12:24.16MohammadAGxdpkg ignores deps
12:26.18ZogG_laptopmaybe, but i feel more comfy with just running script that uatomagically makes me happy
12:27.13MohammadAGI don't :P
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12:34.29khertan__n130i write the script that automagically make me happy :)
12:35.02ZogG_laptopkhertan__n130: sudo fap_script
12:35.07ZogG_laptop?
12:36.28khertan__n130ZogG_laptop, ?
12:37.32ZogG_laptopyou said it makes you happy
12:37.40ZogG_laptopit was joke, nvm
12:39.45khertan__n130:)
12:41.03MohammadAGZogG_laptop, now I get what you mean
12:41.12MohammadAGxdpkg doesn't add the needed lines to the dpkg status file
12:41.16MohammadAGthis is a bug in xdpkg
12:41.27MohammadAGadding the lines manually fixes the issue
12:47.15MohammadAGtime to add some basic animation to sociality
12:47.20MohammadAGmake it look less shitty overall :D
12:53.19ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: how you do it btw? i mean you are not desinger or something
12:54.25MohammadAGZogG_laptop, do what? :P
12:55.55ZogG_laptopanimations and icons and UI
12:56.36ZogG_laptopI think i need to read the source of sociality just to bump little bit experience =)
12:56.53ZogG_laptopas i would understand only small part =P
13:34.45MohammadAGZogG_laptop, it's MTF, not QML
13:35.14MohammadAGanimations are done by Qt's animation framework
13:35.16MohammadAGit's easy
13:35.20Lava_CroftMTF is fast
13:35.35MohammadAGvery
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13:39.44Lava_Croftanyone here got a nexus7?
13:47.05PaliHi, who know more official harmattan repositories, add it here: https://wiki.maemo.org/Apt-mirror
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13:47.30Palihere are mirror.list for all maemo releses for apt-mirror
13:48.05Paliwhat I did not found is OVI apt repository for harmattan
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14:08.49MohammadAGworks now, nvm
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14:30.16paok, any idea why, in qml,    y = parent.top -30 works, but y=parent.top - toppage.intproperty does not?
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14:36.08MohammadAGarcean, ping
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14:43.06arceanMohammadAG, pong
14:46.43MohammadAGarcean, https://gitorious.org/harmattan-projects/ledapplet/merge_requests/1
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14:49.43arceanMohammadAG, thanks, I'll merge this later :)
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14:54.51MohammadAGarcean, thanks :)
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15:03.42ZogG_laptopPali: there are onnly nokia, dev from nokia and apps4meego reps afaik. all others are non official
15:03.53ZogG_laptopbut rzr repo is good one
15:06.22phako<PROTECTED>
15:06.33phakowhich of that 120 variants that navifirm.pl spits out is 001?
15:06.43pajonni, ping? im still struggling with requesting UID::root for a script :(
15:06.48ZogG_laptopphako: gonna flesh ah?
15:06.58phakoZogG_laptop: yeah
15:07.10ZogG_laptoppa: what you want from script?
15:07.35ZogG_laptopphako: there was url of image here n channel the release day. let google it =)
15:07.46paZogG_laptop, i want it to write in a file root:root rw-r--r--
15:07.54phako16 is one
15:08.38pathis is my manifest
15:08.40pahttp://codepad.org/wLGG0Gwr
15:08.59pabut if i run the script from the console, it doesnt work, and i get permission denied on the echo "" >
15:10.10ZogG_laptopphako: 15:45.55Sazpaimonhttp://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1205/2811/7048829758/DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin
15:10.24ZogG_laptopphako: i actually found it via google via log of channel
15:10.49ZogG_laptopit's global for 16gb but i flashed mine 64gb with it
15:10.52MohammadAGpa, what's brightness handler doing?
15:11.09MohammadAGif it's changing display brightness you should use the gconf key
15:11.12ZogG_laptoppa: and did you do chmod +x on it?
15:12.35MohammadAGthat too
15:13.32ZogG_laptoppa: do you use post script to make chmod +x YOUR_SCRIPT ?
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15:19.27paso no i dont chmod it
15:19.35pabut i read somewhere that it is not really necessary
15:19.42phakoZogG_laptop: thx
15:20.15paand MohammadAG , it writes into  sys/..../display0/brightness
15:20.24ZogG_laptopphako: btw did you see about your script i use it for control file as well. i sed all dir =)
15:20.47ZogG_laptoppa: you can't execute script if itsnot executable
15:20.52MohammadAGpa, use gconf for brightness
15:20.55phakoZogG_laptop: ah. well
15:20.56paZogG_laptop, actually it wors
15:20.57phako:)
15:20.58paworks
15:21.14pai mean i can execute it
15:21.26paMohammadAG, gconf? aha.. can i?
15:21.29ZogG_laptoppa: so ./script works ?
15:21.30MohammadAGpa, https://github.com/harmattan/system-ui-brightness-control/blob/master/brightnesscontroller.cpp
15:21.46ZogG_laptopon phone, not after copy but install itself?
15:21.46MohammadAGchanging brightness via sysfs is dirty
15:21.51paZogG_laptop, yes ./script works, but it returns permission denied on the command within
15:21.57ZogG_laptopif so than aegis persimission is the problem
15:22.34paah if gconf works you solved my problems :)
15:22.42MohammadAGm_brightnessGConfItem = new GConfItem("/system/osso/dsm/display/display_brightness");
15:22.42paMohammadAG, how many brightness level you get that way?
15:22.49MohammadAGm_brightnessGConfItem->set(newValue);
15:22.52MohammadAGis what you need to do
15:22.57MohammadAGpa, default 5
15:23.00paaha
15:23.12MohammadAGyou get that with m_brightnessSlider->setRange(1, GConfItem("/system/osso/dsm/display/max_display_brightness_levels", this).value().toInt());
15:23.24pawell i could use also qmsystem i think (that is what im using now)
15:23.34pathe problem is: i cant get as low as i get with sysfs
15:23.52palike if u set 1 into display0/brightness , it gets really low brightenss
15:24.39panot the same as with setDisplayBrightnessValue of MeeGo::QmDisplayState
15:24.55pathats why i want to write in that file
15:25.31paZogG_laptop, maybe aegis is the problem, but have u seen my manifest? what do i do wrong?
15:26.23ZogG_laptoppa: i dunno =)
15:26.33pa:)
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15:51.22pahow do we align rotated elements in qml?
15:51.45pai mean does top becomes something else, or top is the top after rotation?
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17:02.42pacan someone tell me why, if i place a label within a rectangle, this bloody label gets placed god only knows where?
17:07.22ZogG_laptoppa: u need to set where to place it
17:07.28ZogG_laptoppa: what are you doing there?
17:08.01paim tring to place labels around the page
17:08.10pabut they dont want to stitch to where i place them
17:08.30ZogG_laptoppa: hmm, and how you place them?
17:09.02paso i have a row, and inside i have a column, with a rectangle {image}, and below a label rotated -90
17:10.30ZogG_laptoppa: and ?
17:10.37ZogG_laptopshow screenshot and code maybe
17:11.05pabtw, do u guys use the simulator?
17:11.23ZogG_laptopstimulator :)
17:11.40ZogG_laptopi just deploy code to phone and check it there
17:11.56padoesnt it take ages every time
17:11.58pa?
17:12.15ZogG_laptopnope
17:12.23phakoruns in sb
17:12.37ZogG_laptopi don't have sb
17:12.39ZogG_laptop=\
17:13.21ZogG_laptoppa: just don't rerun for small changes and check after several fixes
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18:40.41tommapa, i run and test ui and everything else i can on dekstop
18:41.14tommalot faster than testing on device and easier than sb
18:48.05patomma, desktop means desktop or simulator?
18:48.27pai use simulator coz its quite fast, but some things do not match 100% to what happens on the device/emulator
18:53.20tommadesktop with harmattan qml components
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19:50.33befordtomma: do you have any guide to install harmattan qml components on desktop?
19:51.01rzru mean meego ones ?
19:53.56befordcom.nokia.meego yea
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20:00.22ZogG_laptopbeford: rzr sup guys
20:01.10befordhey ZogG_laptop
20:01.15befordgood
20:01.32ZogG_laptopgood that is good
20:01.38befordyea
20:01.42beford:P
20:02.05ZogG_laptopbtw i got nice cloak at irc like others
20:02.13ZogG_laptopnow i'm funtoo/user/ZogG =P
20:02.17befordgot this weird call this morning at 7:00 am, looked like an international number
20:02.33ZogG_laptopbeford: not me
20:02.40ZogG_laptopbeford: you got your phone right?
20:02.44befordno idea who called me
20:02.47befordnot yey
20:02.49befordyet*
20:03.01ZogG_laptopbeford: and tracking number?
20:03.03befordno
20:03.06befordnothing, nada
20:03.12ZogG_laptopwait
20:03.16ZogG_laptopALARM
20:03.30beford:C
20:03.36befordshould I ask quim?
20:03.48ZogG_laptopbeford: is your name here? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1243818&postcount=231
20:04.04befordyes :D
20:04.13ZogG_laptopthan it's okay
20:04.19ZogG_laptopbtw do you know if its n9 or n950?
20:04.30befordI asked for n950
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20:04.49ZogG_laptopbeford: what is on the post?
20:04.57befordn950
20:04.59tommabeford, qmake && make && make install
20:05.03befordFernando, that's me
20:05.33ZogG_laptopbeford: nice
20:06.46tommaoh there was configure script... ./configure -prefix=/usr -meego -symbian -nomake examples -nomake demos -nomake tests
20:06.52tommaand then make && make install
20:06.59befordtomma: where did you get them from? http://qt.gitorious.org/maemo-6-ui-framework here?
20:07.10tommagit://gitorious.org/qt-components/qt-components.git
20:07.25befordthanks! I will give it a try
20:07.45phakobeford: you need the content of the blanco theme
20:08.18tommawhich can be fetched from device
20:09.50rzri guess they are in meego netbook distro ?
20:10.06tommahmm... seems like i have done symlink to sdk install
20:11.14rzrbeford, what distro are you targeting ?
20:11.21befordmac os
20:11.24beford:P
20:11.32rzrfreedom hater !
20:12.03befordI'll get some linux running on this thing soon hopefully
20:14.32ZogG_laptopbeford: heard that story
20:14.47befordI have some ubuntu already :p
20:14.49befordxD
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20:15.05befordubuntu vm, I'm thing about working on tranmission control ZogG_laptop
20:15.10ZogG_laptopbeford: you want to dual boot macos copycat along with macos?
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20:25.23faenilwhat's wrong with this?
20:25.24faenilhttp://pastebin.com/EUn0qUiD
20:25.33faenilit seems width isn't correctly set all the times
20:25.40faenilas if bindings weren't working properly
20:25.51faenilbasically without - 10 everything works
20:26.10faenilwith -10, it doesn't work anymore, it doesn't update the width with the last value, and keeps a negative value instead
20:26.20faenil(real width is positive, even with -10 of course)
20:26.34faenildoes anyone know what's wrong with it ? It's a simple text element...
20:26.42ZogG_laptopfaenil: try to replace with anchors -5 maybe?
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20:32.57faenilZogG_laptop, ?
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20:39.57ZogG_laptopfaenil: or anchors.left
20:40.10ZogG_laptopor there is horizontal and bertical one as well i think
20:40.53faenilanchoors are not numbers
20:41.42ZogG_laptopoops
20:41.55ZogG_laptop<PROTECTED>
20:41.59ZogG_laptopsorry
20:42.43ZogG_laptop<PROTECTED>
20:42.44ZogG_laptop<PROTECTED>
20:43.12heymaster-laptopbeford: (y)
20:43.54befordheymaster-laptop: hola!
20:44.43ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: is it ass or boobs?
20:44.46heymaster-laptopbeford: hi. good if you work on that ptoject :)
20:45.24heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: it's Skype emotion. don't know it ? :)
20:45.59ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: not using skype and best smiles are «:P» and such
20:46.03ZogG_laptopor maybe ☺
20:46.32befordits a yes with the thumb finger
20:46.35heymaster-laptopif you write it in FB chat, you will get "thumbs up" aka Like
20:46.40befordsomething like that, yea
20:47.11heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: you are fast to find utf8 symbol :)
20:47.34heymaster-laptoplike you using OS X "Special Characters" :)
20:47.39ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: i didnt search for it
20:47.44ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: ☭
20:47.57heymaster-laptop:)
20:48.08heymaster-laptopit renders correctly :)
20:48.09befordcommunists
20:48.09ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: it's just few i remember. composite key is awesome thing yu know if you use linux
20:48.39ZogG_laptop½ =)
20:48.46ZogG_laptoplemme try to remeber more
20:48.56ZogG_laptop© ™ ®
20:48.56heymaster-laptopok :)
20:49.03ZogG_laptopi dunno, i always forget
20:49.31ZogG_laptopi mostly use it for — and «»
20:50.29heymaster-laptopyes, russian uses much «»
20:50.46heymaster-laptopif i remember correctly
20:51.12ZogG_laptopnot really. thye mostly use first down and second up
20:52.00heymaster-laptop:)
20:52.00ZogG_laptop,,like this"
20:52.07ZogG_laptopbut properly
20:52.29heymaster-laptopwe uses too. we can't use ""
20:52.50faenilZogG_laptop, that doesn't make sense
20:53.03ZogG_laptopfaenil: what?
20:53.15faenilleftmargin
20:53.47faenilbecause I have nothiung to anchorleft it to
20:58.41ZogG_laptopfaenil: parent?
21:02.16befordwhy you cant  use " ?
21:02.45ZogG_laptopbeford: i do use, but sometimes you want it to look nice or official
21:02.59ZogG_laptopfaenil: i just checked what i use https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/qml/imgrup/UploadPage.qml#L42
21:03.51ZogG_laptopfaenil: or https://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/qml/imgrup/GalleryImage.qml#L104
21:04.23ZogG_laptopfaenil: in second one i anchor first in the middle of the parent and than i set width (not the order but logic)
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21:28.09heymaster-laptopaegis_crypto library ? I need to install it ? Or it bundled with SDK ?
21:29.30ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: why do you need it?
21:29.44ZogG_laptopi think it would be there already
21:29.54heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: i want to securely store password
21:30.17heymaster-laptopBut i don't know how to include this library in pro file
21:33.13ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=5457
21:33.18ZogG_laptopmaybe that can be helpful
21:33.52heymaster-laptopmaybe
21:38.24faenilZogG_laptop, but that way you anchor it to the parent's left...
21:38.33faenilit works, but it takes "virtual" space in the scene
21:39.03faenilanyway, gtg ;)
21:39.35ZogG_laptopfaenil: than use margins or -,+ to anchrs as well
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21:50.29jonniheymaster-laptop: easiest way is just to use /home/user/private dir. http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Harmattan_security_Security_guide_Using_Harmattan_security_features.html#Protecting_the_server.27s_data_by_storing_it_in_.2Fhome.2Fuser.2Fprivate
21:51.10ZogG_laptopqwazix: jonni sup
21:52.04heymaster-laptopjonni: so just write files to /home/user/private ?
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21:52.44qwazixZogG_laptop, fine, I'm officially on vacation :), and I'm playing with qtm proximity sensor on maemo5 but it doesn't seem to work
21:53.02jonniheymaster-laptop: yep, it automaticly encrypts it, if you have aegis file for the package. It uses application ID as signinging key, so only that specific package can read the file.
21:53.35jonniheymaster-laptop: if package doesnt have aegis manifest, then its a fail, when all apps can read it :)
21:54.17heymaster-laptopjonni: sorry for lame question. but how aegis manifest looks like ?
21:55.06heymaster-laptopjonni: I like aegis_crypto_encrypt method, just don't know how to import that lib :/
21:55.48heymaster-laptoponly one questuon. I will write encrypted data to my Qt objects serialization data
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21:57.01jonniZogG_laptop: nice evening have been eating crawfish/crayfish (us/eng) and champagne :)
22:02.34ZogG_laptopjonni: lemme google what is it
22:03.27jonnigoogle pics crawfish, and you should see a lot of red thingies :)
22:04.17ZogG_laptopit's not the same
22:04.19ZogG_laptopas there types
22:05.06ZogG_laptopit's like in Israel there is no word for Hornet and as well people calling vespa as bee =)
22:05.13ZogG_laptopit drives me crazy =)
22:05.52Estel_is anyone using polycarbonate protector foil with capacitive screen?
22:06.01Estel_I'm curious if it will work at all
22:06.12ZogG_laptopjonni: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crustacean =P
22:07.12jonniheymaster-laptop: have you tried adding this to .pro file?  PKGCONFIG += aegis-crypto
22:07.39jonnithat should to the trick :)
22:07.45heymaster-laptopjonni: will try
22:07.48ZogG_laptopjonni: anyway it's something like lobsters but smaller and live in not salt water right?
22:08.23jonniyep, those are usually from lakes, the hunting seasong started on monday in finland for those :)
22:08.32ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: do not forget to add pkgconfig to config as well
22:08.41heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: how ?
22:08.46ZogG_laptopCONFIG+=pkgconfig ;)
22:08.50heymaster-laptopok. thanks
22:08.52ZogG_laptopwith spaces it looks better
22:08.59heymaster-laptopyes :)
22:09.31ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: i bet you have one there you can add with just space several in one line or use " \" at the end of one line to add on next line
22:10.10ZogG_laptopthough as it's += u can just use it several times i think
22:10.39heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: No, I'm using CONFIG for first time :)
22:10.51ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: lemme show you
22:10.58heymaster-laptopI know :)
22:11.12ZogG_laptophttps://github.com/funkycode/imgrup/blob/master/src/src.pro#L21
22:11.28ZogG_laptopit's CONFIG and PKGCONFIG after =)
22:11.50heymaster-laptopyes, thanks
22:12.18heymaster-laptopthe problem I trying use aegis_crypto on x86_64
22:12.21heymaster-laptopit won't work ?
22:13.58ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: why on x86_64?
22:14.08heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: because it's faster
22:14.12heymaster-laptopto test app
22:14.48heymaster-laptopI have Mac with Intel x3100 video card :)
22:15.02heymaster-laptopgma :)
22:15.27heymaster-laptopbut will try to use emulator
22:16.30heymaster-laptopI was installed Linux to check how emulator works on Linux, but not better than on OS X
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22:17.57heymaster-laptophttp://cl.ly/image/0f2l3f3w312G << when loading i see such artifacts .. :)
22:21.12ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: it's not a bug its a feature
22:21.30ZogG_laptopi think jonni may answer about x86_64
22:21.37heymaster-laptopyes :)
22:21.57heymaster-laptopi don't think will be aegis-crypto library on x86_64
22:22.27ZogG_laptopme too =)
22:22.27heymaster-laptopafter i changed target.. i can autocomplete #include <aegis_crypto.h>
22:22.49ZogG_laptopgood =)
22:22.53ZogG_laptopor bad =)
22:22.56ZogG_laptopi'm sleepy
22:23.05heymaster-laptop:)
22:23.24ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: so iphone and apple? why did you sell your soul?
22:23.44heymaster-laptopZogG_laptop: i don't own iPhone :p
22:23.59heymaster-laptopjust iPod and iPad :)
22:24.06ZogG_laptopapple products are good but overprices, overrated and no freedom =(
22:24.17ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: what phone do you have?
22:24.34ZogG_laptopbtw i can check app on my phone if you want =P
22:25.42heymaster-laptopfor real i own iPhone 3G .. but bought it very cheaply. And it's very slow. I can
22:25.51heymaster-laptopI can't use it wiht iOS 4
22:26.00heymaster-laptopNokia 500
22:26.10heymaster-laptopwith Symbian Belle
22:27.18heymaster-laptopHad Galaxy Y with Android. But sold it. Don't liked it.
22:27.57jonniZogG_laptop: I never us x86 when devel on harmattan so dont know, but atleast if you just use the private dir you dont need anything, since in x86 its just a file, and in harmattan its encrypted automaticly.
22:28.04jonniuse even
22:28.22heymaster-laptopVery cheap phone. With crappy resolution.
22:29.15ZogG_laptop=\
22:29.43heymaster-laptopI like Nokia 500 more than any cheap Samsung mobile
22:30.12ZogG_laptopjonni: it's pitty they don't have examples of using sso and oauth2 plugin that is in harmattan
22:30.25ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: i don't like samsuung at all
22:30.55ZogG_laptopheymaster-laptop: though i advices my roomate to buy galaxy nexus s wich is not bad at all. he had my iphone 4 for about a year
22:31.13ZogG_laptopas i had one(got it for "free"(plan))
22:31.33jonniZogG_laptop: hmm, isnt tests dir example enough, where they test that oauth2 plugin works?
22:32.08jonniZogG_laptop: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/tests/oauth2plugintest.cpp
22:32.21ZogG_laptopjonni: i created account and it stored(if i didn't miss anything). but i have no idea how to use it from the app
22:36.21ZogG_laptopjonni: and as well no oauth1 there if i understand right. as oauth2plugin has both
22:40.08ZogG_laptopjonni: is it there and i'm just too stupid to understand, or it's not full example? =)
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23:30.47trip0anyone done a2dp with the n9?
23:31.04trip0i'm noticing that a2dp sounds great to my nokia headset
23:31.11trip0but sounds kinda crappy to my linux desktop
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