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00:06.04ZogG_laptoprobertjw: open-mode?
00:06.36robertjwieatlint: socks5 over ssh is working for me now, just had to fiddle with it.  thanks for encouraging meto go  down this path.
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06:50.14djszapi_pa: why would you ever rename the deb ??
06:52.07djszapi_also, your problem description is a bit vague, to say the least.
06:52.21djszapi_at least, I am getting what the actual symptom is...
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08:10.34ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: sup
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08:17.55ZogG_laptopHurrian: morning
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09:08.37khertanMorning
09:14.06HurrianZogG_laptop, afternoon ;)
09:20.29ZogG_laptop:)
09:20.38ZogG_laptopkhertan: how are you?
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09:40.50khertanZogG_laptop: fine
09:41.01khertanZogG_laptop: and you ?
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10:09.43djszapiHi! Is there a way of figuring out the number of my new sim card, I have just bought, without calling anybody, but visiting the settings, or an identification page, etc?
10:17.18trxin the settings nope
10:18.25trxmaybe there is a */# code
10:20.04djszapitoo bad. :/
10:20.44djszapiI would have the impression, such a "command" towards the SIM should be standardized, so handsets could handle directly for any cards.
10:20.51djszapior at least for "standard compliants".
10:21.28SpeedEvilnope
10:21.41SpeedEvilthen sim may not know its number.
10:21.57djszapiit must know
10:22.00SpeedEvilor it may not even be allocated until you register it.
10:22.09SpeedEvilnope.
10:22.13djszapiotherwise it would not be able to send its number to the callee
10:22.27djszapiunless the remote network figures that bit out.
10:22.29SpeedEvilthe network knows the number.
10:23.38SpeedEvilyou can't just send random numbers. the sim merelyis a 'Mac number. it requires the network to allocate it a number when it connects
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10:24.01SpeedEvilsome sims have an own phone number memory
10:24.19SpeedEvilat+cnum=? from memory.
10:24.35djszapiright, so it should be at least a "try and get" method.
10:24.38SpeedEvilbut this only works with one of my sims.
10:24.51djszapiwith a warning, if there is no such a memory available.
10:25.34djszapiisn't there such an application in Ovi, already to give it a try?
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10:26.47SpeedEvilI've never seen a phone that can reliablgn figure out own number. markets will vary, some may have number set always.
10:27.08djszapiwhat do you mean by number set?
10:27.34djszapimore precisely, what is the problem with figuring out the "number set" with such an application? Nothing, as far as I see.
10:27.41SpeedEvilthe 'own number' entry in the sim set before you purchase it.
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10:27.43djszapiif it cannot be, warning, if can be, happyness.
10:29.33SpeedEvilthe above at command can work. but I have no idea how to access this through at
10:29.51trxis the number stored in the sim?
10:29.55SpeedEvilI note that my n950 did not display own number anywhere on ui
10:30.00trxi taught that its in operators db
10:30.03trxthought*
10:30.25SpeedEvilit is.
10:30.45SpeedEvilthey may also add it to a memory in the sim though
10:31.06SpeedEvilin the case of UK, quite often not.
10:31.37djszapiSpeedEvil: I am now in Ireland, so the practice is probably not all that distinct over here.
10:32.13djszapiright, you have three in the UK as well.
10:32.32djszapiso do you have vodafone, et cetera.
10:33.53SpeedEvilyes.
10:34.25djszapiwhich sim was (not) okay for you?
10:34.36djszapidoes that depend on the provider in your case, or on the given sim card?
10:34.37SpeedEvilmost
10:35.02SpeedEvilt-mobile, 3, voda have both given me SIMs with no embedded number
10:35.21SpeedEvilThis may be different for non PAYG
10:35.29djszapiI also use prepay.
10:35.46SpeedEvilwhat does at+cnum=? return?
10:36.08djszapinot sure how to get that work exactly.
10:36.14djszapiminicom, gserial, command?
10:36.17djszapiis that it?
10:36.18SpeedEvilpnatd
10:36.19djszapior some ppp stuff?
10:36.40SpeedEvilhmm - is pnatd on the n950
10:37.25SpeedEvilyes
10:37.49djszapiwell
10:37.57djszapiI cannot use the terminal directly on the N9 screen I guess.
10:38.02djszapidepends on what delay they tolerate.
10:38.07djszapiPerhaps, it is wiser to do over ssh
10:38.12djszapiand copy paste
10:38.13SpeedEvildelay is fine
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10:38.27djszapithey tolerate such a big delay like typing?
10:38.50djszapimeh, I am using archlinux in the vbox guest
10:39.00djszapiand it is not all that simple to get ssh work that way
10:39.09djszapiPerhaps, I could use putty on Windows.
10:39.15SpeedEvilit's not realtime
10:39.21djszapibut I do not have time for that as of now
10:39.28djszapiright, so it is not like modems, I worked with.
10:39.34SpeedEvilYou will either get a response "ok" bare - which means no stored number.
10:39.38djszapidoes it require an cr at the end?
10:39.41SpeedEvilMost modems have no timeout
10:39.43djszapiof lf
10:39.43SpeedEvilyes
10:39.45djszapior*
10:39.48SpeedEviljust enter in keypad works
10:39.53SpeedEvilor you get a number
10:40.19djszapireply: OK
10:40.30SpeedEvil:/
10:40.32djszapiperhaps '=' is a scam in there...
10:40.39djszapiyou sure that is needed?
10:40.43djszapiusually ? is the query
10:40.45djszapiwithout the '='
10:40.49djszapiat least for modems, I worked with.
10:40.51SpeedEviltry it
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10:41.25djszapiit is basically returning "OK" for almost everything.
10:41.40SpeedEvilhttp://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Phone
10:42.19SpeedEvilIt is in fact at+cnum
10:42.50djszapiyeah, "OK"
10:42.57djszapitried that, too, already.
10:43.05djszapiit is a three sim card right now
10:43.09djszapiI ahve two vodafone ones, too
10:43.11SpeedEvilthe above page lists it working with my tmobile PAYG SIM
10:43.42djszapiright, I do not have t-mobile sim card.
10:43.54djszapiI had 2 vodafone: one for calling, one for mobile broadband
10:44.06djszapiand now one three since I switched to three from vodafone due to the unlimited internet
10:44.10djszapiand not 5 GB stupid limit :)
10:44.24djszapibtw, can I use the vodafone usb modem (stick) in any vodafone countries?
10:44.36djszapior are they usually tied to the resident country where purchased?
10:44.39SpeedEvilI dropped from 10G to 1G for mobile, on 3, as I'm not using that as much.
10:44.48SpeedEvilYou can use it. If you're very, very rich.
10:45.03SpeedEvilI don't think it will even roam over from ireland cheaply.
10:45.16SpeedEvilBut check that, I suppose it might.
10:45.36SpeedEvilIn general, if they can charge you insane amounts of money, they will.
10:46.04djszapino no
10:46.19djszapiwhat I mean is that if I can use the same stick with for instance Finnish or Hungarian vodafone sim card
10:46.22djszapiin Finland or Hungary
10:46.30djszapiwell, there is no vodafone in Finland, but you are getting the point.
10:46.43djszapiso what I would like to avoid is to buy a stick again.
10:46.51djszapibecause it is something like 50 EUR.
10:46.57djszapiat least what I purchased.
10:47.35djszapiso the question is more like, if the modem can handle vodafone sim card from all over the world where they operate.
10:48.02SpeedEvilIn principle, but you need a non SIM-locked modem.
10:48.23SpeedEvilI don't know if they simlock. If they do, you'd need to unlock it
10:48.39SpeedEvilPlus, there is the issue of frequency band.
10:49.08djszapican you elaborate?
10:49.28SpeedEvilA device can have eitehr a provider, or a simlock set.
10:49.45SpeedEvilThis means it will not accept cards from a different provider, or a different SIM to the one shipped with it.
10:50.08djszapiok, sorry...
10:50.13SpeedEvilAnd differnet countries have different 3G frequencies, which means that the hardware may not work
10:50.17djszapiI meant elaborate in case the freqband...
10:50.21SpeedEvilgenerally, you can pay them to unlocak
10:50.32SpeedEvilbut they may not have this setup
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10:56.37djszapiI have just written an email to them about this; thank you.
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11:11.24ZogG_laptopi'm back :)
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11:33.38djszapiSpeedEvil: what exactly is the modem manufacturer?
11:34.02djszapiIt returns Nokia for my irish sim card...
11:34.22djszapithe modem is the handset in case of sim card data plan without the mobile broadband stick?
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12:00.28djszapiSpeedEvil: and there is no "#foobar" number either I can query my number with, frm the network?
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12:26.26SpeedEvilas I understand it, no.
12:32.08djszapino what?
12:32.12djszapiI had two questions. =)
12:32.45SpeedEvilthere is no magic number
12:33.22SpeedEvilthere seems to be a sim toolkit way, but it doesn't work on the n950
12:38.47djszapiinterestingf
12:38.49djszapi-f
12:42.45khertanhate regex
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12:45.26djszapiI wonder why regex got so widely known and common
12:45.36djszapiit should be hidden in a shelter. :)
12:53.20ZogG_laptopwhy would it?
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12:54.15Venemo~seen ajalkane
12:54.20infobotajalkane <~ajalkane@a88-115-212-112.elisa-laajakaista.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #harmattan, 18h 9m 30s ago, saying: 'djszapi_: o/'.
12:56.11ZogG_laptop~poke Venemo
12:56.11infobotACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Venemo, pokes Venemo repeatedly, hilarity ensues.
12:56.29Venemohey ZogG_laptop
12:56.32Venemowhat's up?
12:56.53ZogG_laptopnot bad
12:56.55ZogG_laptopcan be better
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13:14.57Rantwolfhi. is there anyone who installed the syncevolutions package on the nokia n9?
13:15.37Rantwolfi get errors while installing the package
13:15.46khertanhum somewhat maybe can help me fighting with regex ... i'm trying to replace all text contained between ** and all text contain between * ... and the problem is that the second regex match the first **test** it saw
13:16.18khertan[^_*](\*)(?=\S)(.+?)(?=\S)(\*|)[^_*] > **test** should do it
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13:27.49djszapikhertan: why do you use regex for that?
13:34.59djszapikhertan: I dislike dealing with regex, but that regex seems broken altogether
13:35.07djszapieven though I am unsure what you are trying to accomplush.
13:35.17djszapis/accomplushaccomplish/
13:35.23djszapis/accomplush/accomplish/
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13:41.38khertan(?<!\*|_)(\*|_)(?!\*)(\s?)(.+?)(\s?)(?<!\*|_)(\*|_)(?!\*|_) <<<< perfectly readable
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13:41.41khertanoh my god
13:42.04SpeedEvilI once wrote send mail.CD
13:42.08SpeedEvilCD
13:42.11SpeedEvilcf
13:42.35SpeedEvilnow, that's scary. and not the m4 version
13:43.51Arkenoii once wrote a script that creates sendmail.cf without m4
13:45.48djszapiSpeedEvil: http://regexlib.com/REDetails.aspx?regexp_id=260&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
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14:03.33SpeedEvilThere are syntactically valid invalid postcodes
14:11.03djszapiZogG_laptop: got your rpi?
14:12.13khertanfucking bloody hell ! I lost 1 day trying to create fucking styled text for Qml TextArea ... and it s completely useless as it s completely unusable due to fucking keyboard bugs !!!
14:12.52khertanwhen you text got focus and vkb opens it s insert random shitty caracters
14:12.52djszapifucking who cares? : P
14:13.06ZogG_laptopdjszapi: nope
14:13.31djszapiZogG_laptop: sounds like nothing was delivered except the UK and America.
14:13.44djszapioh few people got also in Asia (India)./
14:15.03djszapiI do not believe it will arrive...
14:15.15djszapiand Tom is not working for Nokia anymore.
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14:30.58djszapiZogG_laptop: got a reply from Tom
14:32.36ZogG_laptopdjszapi: nope
14:32.53ZogG_laptopwho is Tom?
14:33.18djszapiyou do not follow the qt on pi mailing list?
14:33.43djszapihe was one of the guys pushing Farnell hard about this
14:33.46djszapibut he has left Nokia as well anyways
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15:09.32trxhttps://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=309
15:09.52trxdid anyone follow this?
15:09.58trxStatus: REOPENED
15:10.05trxand assigned
15:10.26trxdoes that mean that someone is actually working on this?
15:10.48djszapiin the fabule :P
15:11.02javispedroI think anyone can reopen a bug.
15:12.22khertanjedi.theone                  2012-03-12 09:16:38 EET                                       Status             REOPENED  
15:13.58trxsoumya.3.bijjal2012-06-21 13:44:24 EEST Assigneeext-risto.lahtiext-ville-pekka.karhu
15:14.24trxi didint know that anyone can reopen :)
15:14.28trxdidn't*
15:14.37trxso a fake :/
15:15.14djszapino, Soumya is not fake
15:15.28djszapishe was a front person for public relation like that
15:16.23trxso is it a fake or not? (sarcasm? :))
15:16.54djszapi??
15:18.37trxdo you think that it will be implemented really or not?
15:20.21djszapiI would not really take my breath.
15:21.54trxok, thanks
15:22.34djszapithey even dropped Qt.
15:22.43djszapiso why would they even care about Harmattan.
15:23.24djszapiharmattan pretty much means what we have, I speculate so.
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15:24.50SazpaimonI like how after all the trouble I went through getting ipv6 working in fremantle, on harmattan it's literally just 2 switches
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15:33.20PaliSazpaimon, I created metapckage for fremantle which install and configure ipv6 for wifi - it used old diablo icd2 plugin...
15:36.12Sazpaimonyeah for wifi
15:36.14Sazpaimonwhat about GPRS?
15:36.59PaliSazpaimon, my operator does not have ipv6 so I cannot test anything...
15:37.17Sazpaimonon harmattan you just enable developer mode, press the ipv6 button and, assuming your APN is the same for both v4 and v6, you're good to go
15:37.43Paliyes, I saw ipv6 button in developer mode
15:38.26Palibut I do not think that ipv6 will be supported in Slovak operators...
15:38.48Paliso I do not care about ipv6 via gsm/3g
15:39.08Sazpaimonthey'll have to support it at some point
15:39.18Sazpaimonblindly ignoring ipv6 will just lead to a world of hurt
15:40.34Palithere are plans for (big) ipv4 NAT which (operators think) fix this problem :D:D
15:41.10Sazpaimonwhat happens when more ipv6-only sites start popping up
15:41.54Paliit will not be in Slovakia - so operators will ignore it...
15:43.10Paliit is really good joke that in my country will be (more) ipv6 only sites/server :D
15:44.45Palioperators do not care about customers... they only want to see money
15:45.42Paliand building ipv6 infrastructure is not cheap (at least operators do not get money from that)...
15:47.07Sazpaimonwell when people stop paying their operator because they can no longer access content, then we'll see what happens
15:48.25djszapiaaaaaaaaaaaaaarmageddon !
15:50.04Palithis will not happen in near future... a lot of people using mobile internet only for emails, chat, facebook, ... and I do not think that gmail or facebook will turn off ipv4 servers
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15:52.02shanttuweird bug. vkb doesn't pop up on 'messages' anymore.  
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15:54.29Palialso I looked for normal *home* (adsl) routers with ipv6 support which is possible to buy in slovakia... no router with ipv6 support yet (some has flag: ipv6 upgrade support in future)
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16:22.07djszapiany graphics master here with 3D stuff?
16:23.19pawhat kind of 3d stuff?
16:25.43djszapigraphics in general
16:25.45djszapimostly theoritical.
16:26.03djszapiI am a kinda n00b about this, and would have some questions, preferrably in private.
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16:28.31pai've done something, but im not sure im master enough on the specific, but you can ask sure :)
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16:53.08befordhi
16:53.48djszapibeford: sup
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16:54.45befordhey djszapi, not much, working working
16:55.01befordnot enough time to finish my app for the coding competition
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16:57.13Venemobeford: what app is that?
16:57.27befordtransmission remote controller
16:58.05Venemo_N9hm.
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16:59.07befordtransmission torrent client :P also got tranmission daemon compiled i'll try to bundle it
16:59.35Venemowhat's missing?
17:00.26djszapibeford: to be honest
17:00.31djszapiI have not even begun
17:00.36djszapibut the UI draft is almost ready.
17:00.42Venemobegun what?
17:00.43djszapiminor adjustments needed
17:00.45djszapithen I need to start coding the library
17:00.51djszapiand then the application. ;)
17:01.01djszapiVenemo: app for coding competition.
17:01.13Venemodjszapi: and what app will that be?
17:01.47befordwhat are you working on djszapi
17:04.00djszapibeford: dictionary and translator.
17:04.33djszapiwith speech support of course.
17:04.47djszapi(perhaps trainer integration later as well)
17:11.21befordnice
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17:12.06Venemo_N9hey again :)
17:12.19bef0rdhey
17:14.38paM4rtinK, by the way i found the bug in my building chain :) but thanks for your template, maybe i will switch to sdist-maemo one day
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17:25.31djszapiN9Venemo_N9, w-h-e-n w-i-l-l b-e a n-e-w c-h-a-t-t-e-r r-e-l-e-a-s-e?
17:25.57djszapiN9available in ovi, ofc.
17:25.58Venemo_N9djszapi, the day after tomorrow
17:26.22Venemo_N9if it's good enough, it'll go to ovi
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17:27.44Venemo_N9sorry, my ISP is making me crazy today
17:28.22Venemo_N9either them or freenode disconnects me...
17:28.55befordI tried communi from ovi, its nice too, but I prefer chatter
17:29.34Venemo_N9thank you beford
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18:02.05valdur55_I am having problems with QT SDK installing: "Error during installation process (com.nokia.ndk.tools.harmattan.sysroot):Execution failed(Unexpected exit code: 1): "/home/valdur55/QtSDK/Madde/postinstall/harmattan-postinstall.sh"
18:04.15valdur55_lol... my home disk is full
18:05.14beford:P
18:06.00valdur55_I ignored this error and then got Segmentation fault (core dumped)
18:07.11Venemo_N9lol valdur55
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18:07.50valdur55_:) So.. do i need download all items again?
18:08.13Venemo_N9maybe, I'm unsure
18:09.02befordI think it will just redownload the missing items
18:09.20valdur55_All items are downloaded. Problem is with installing :P
18:11.11valdur55_Damn..  I need download all items again :/
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19:05.09valdur55_On this thime, i download offline version..
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19:29.59ZogG_laptopbeford: sup :)
19:30.47befordhey
19:34.34ZogG_laptophow ya doing?
19:36.44M4rtinKpa: thanks ! :) I'll have to finally clean it up a properly publish it somewhere
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19:50.22befordworking
19:50.27beford;<
19:50.46ZogG_laptop:(
19:52.35befordi'll send you a deb later to see if you find it faster than the previous version
20:10.36ZogG_laptopbeford: problematic
20:10.48befordwhy :|
20:11.05ZogG_laptopbeford: i have more torrents now :P
20:11.49befordi'll put a "please wait" message just for you
20:11.49befordxD
20:11.57befordthat will solve the slowdown problem
20:13.36ZogG_laptop1000+ is not much
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20:56.46ZogG_laptopn950 pr1.3 leaked :)
21:00.54ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer05: wanna host it too :P
21:01.01rZr\0/
21:02.49djszapi_I wish the next billion code was leaked instead...
21:03.08ZogG_laptopnext billion code is ?
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21:03.40rZrwill this void the "warranty" ?
21:14.52CreamyG31337leaked + deleted 2 days in a row
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21:17.42rZrhee
21:17.43rZrhttps://www.google.fr/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=N950-PR13.zip&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=6ae4e1573397149f&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&biw=1366&bih=659
21:18.26befordofficial?
21:18.45rZrno idea
21:19.14rZrif it is official , then expect to see wp7 once rebooted :)
21:26.33CreamyG31337it's not public, but it's official. that's a problem. people keep reporting the posts at tmo.
21:28.43befordnice
21:29.16befordi dont have a n950 yet but still nice
21:29.51ZogG_laptoprZr: do not post link online yet
21:30.49rZri will not
21:30.59rZrtrust me
21:31.00befordits on google cache
21:33.00djszapi_rZr: we do not trust you ofc :-D
21:34.07CreamyG31337nokia better wake up and release it themselves if they don't want to change their password
21:34.23rZrdjszapi,  dont say we, when you want to say i  or take your pill mr skizophrenia , ..
21:34.37rZrwhich password ?
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21:36.31trxrapidshare is really slow
21:36.41trxdownload from dropsend
21:36.51HtheBlol, links already removed
21:36.58HtheBglad i copied them :p
21:37.17beford4ffbbc1b6fb6957feffbeb0316521126
21:38.49trxi found them in google's cache luckily
21:38.53CreamyG31337rZr, i won't say in here
21:40.35HtheBgoogle cache, nice one trx
21:40.40HtheBdidnt tought myself about that :p
21:40.58rZrthat one  has the google spyware in it :)
21:41.04trx:))
21:41.29HtheBwell, once it's on the internet, it will be always on the interner
21:41.33HtheBinternet
21:41.58HtheBCreamyG31337, you said something about a ????? file?
21:42.05HtheBwhat did you mean by that
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21:46.19Khertan_n950leak leak leak n950 leak leak ? seriously ?
21:46.27Khertan_n950hello
21:47.02HtheByeah, google cache has it
21:47.07Khertan_n950some rumours of a leaked pr1.3 for n950 appear on tmo, is it true ?
21:47.07rZrit looks this is a fake announcement
21:47.22CreamyG31337HtheB, it's just how we know it's an internal build, and nokia might block it from updating
21:47.41HtheBupdating what.... lol
21:47.50HtheBas if they will update it ever again
21:48.04CreamyG31337yeah, exactly, but some ppl insist on keeping it private just in case
21:48.18DocScrutinizer05ZogG_laptop: WAZZUP?
21:48.20HtheBi kinda rofl at the edit, it said wait for an official announcement
21:48.34ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: :P
21:48.58DocScrutinizer05don'6t highlight my name in vain!
21:49.03CreamyG31337yeah me too, officiall announcement will be that here is never any updates and we should all buy lumias
21:49.16HtheBlol
21:49.42ZogG_laptopDocScrutinizer: wanna host leaked pr1.3 for n950?
21:49.58DocScrutinizer05I won't host hoaxes
21:50.27DocScrutinizer05'official' leaks are directly to me
21:50.54ZogG_laptop:P
21:54.49rZrbtw i have build many stuff today ..
21:56.19ZogG_laptoprZr: but not xmms2 :P
21:57.31rZr:)
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21:58.50HtheBrZr, need to take a dump?
22:00.21HtheBguess you're already takin it lol
22:01.07rZri am on gtk too
22:02.40DocScrutinizer05n8
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22:04.37DocScrutinizer05~pr1.3
22:04.37infobotpr1.3 is probably the latest (and probably last) software update for Fremantle, available since Monday October 25 2010. More information at http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.3 -- see ~flashing for how to update
22:04.47DocScrutinizer05~pr1.4
22:04.48infobotPR1.4 has always been a ban'able subject
22:04.55DocScrutinizer05~pr1.5
22:04.55infobotACTION beats docscrutinizer05 with a Nostradamus papercopy 34.4 times. "That's your PR1.5!"
22:06.05ZogG_laptopkhertan_: :)
22:06.06khertan_ZogG_laptop, how did they can block this leak ?
22:06.17khertan_ZogG_laptop, :)
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22:16.03DocScrutinizer05wtf? is halloween today?
22:16.43DocScrutinizer05idly wonders what BS goes on at tmo
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22:16.54xipp2hello
22:17.03rZris there anything you want on that list :
22:17.03rZrhttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Arzr&repo_MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_Maemo_org_MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_standard=1&succeeded=1
22:17.55xipp2hey rZr
22:18.35DocScrutinizer05not really, but then that's me
22:18.51jesuschrist_guys any expert of the mail client of the n9
22:18.58rZrask your dad
22:19.06jesuschrist_my dad ?
22:19.19jesuschrist_ohhhh
22:19.22jesuschrist_you funny
22:19.24jesuschrist_:>
22:19.48rZrthis is your name :)
22:20.25jesuschrist_when you going to port pptp rZr ?
22:21.58rZrlet me check that one again
22:22.04jesuschrist_thanks dude
22:22.57rZrremind me what do need , the tool is there
22:23.50jesuschrist_what you mean ?
22:24.54rZrpptp-linux_1.7.2-7_armel.deb is not enough isnt it ?
22:25.05jesuschrist_you mean dependencies ?
22:25.20rZryes tell me
22:25.40DocScrutinizer05lols a bit, turns around and walks straight direction suspend bay
22:26.04jesuschrist_let me check
22:26.44DocScrutinizer05we're so 1337 and sekrit circle, aren't we?
22:27.25khertan_rZr, no motivation for a vim compile with python support ?
22:27.26khertan_:)
22:27.46jesuschrist_i think its enough
22:27.50jesuschrist_no need for anything else
22:27.53rZrdidnt i told u thats the 1st thing i'll do once gtk is stable :)
22:28.21jesuschrist_no wait,
22:28.24jesuschrist_you need ppp
22:28.51jesuschrist_libc6
22:29.09jesuschrist_end.
22:29.23rZryea ppp
22:29.32rZri didnt finished that one
22:29.46DocScrutinizer05rZr: I mirrored nokia's buoldservers daily for almost half a year. NOBODY ever checked if there's any 'leaking' shit that got revoked a day later
22:29.56jesuschrist_btw anyone knows how to send from different mails with the mail client ? i mean having more than one mail in the same account
22:30.27jesuschrist_rZr : ppp => 2.4.2
22:31.23jesuschrist_and if you could also port a web server rZr :>
22:31.36jesuschrist_os is there already one ?
22:31.45DocScrutinizer05meego ... yawn
22:32.03rZrjesuschrist_, suggest some
22:32.18rZrthere is didiwiki
22:32.29jesuschrist_didiwiki ?
22:32.47jesuschrist_does it run php ?
22:32.51rZrlitle httpd/wiki server in c
22:33.58jesuschrist_a webserver and php would be great
22:34.50jesuschrist_Nginx
22:34.55jesuschrist_would be cool
22:35.29ZogG_laptopand KDE4.9 :P
22:35.37ZogG_laptopand win7
22:36.10jesuschrist_:D
22:36.17rZrwin7 would be cool but i will do just after gnu/hurd prot
22:36.20rZrport
22:36.29rZrand aros :)
22:36.37ZogG_laptoprZr: plan9
22:36.45ZogG_laptopi win any argument with plan9
22:37.02jesuschrist_anyone knows how to modify from shell the bookmarks on the launcher ?
22:37.10jesuschrist_where are they located ?
22:37.43rZrppp is about to be ready to be served
22:37.55ZogG_laptoprZr: you are quick
22:38.06jesuschrist_lol
22:38.09rZrxmms is just slow
22:38.28rZrjesuschrist_, please test and report if it is usable on tmo
22:38.45jesuschrist_ZogG_laptop : i would like to install this on the phone http://www.aldeaglobal.net/callserver/
22:38.51jesuschrist_this is the reason i need a webserver :p
22:39.06paok, this is maybe a stupid question: but is it possible to run meego-terminal -e somecommand, and then not make it exit?
22:39.17jesuschrist_rZr : i dont have any account on tmo, i think i will just get banned if i register my nickname
22:39.31pafor example run somecommand -h, and then leave it open so that the user can use the termina
22:39.35ZogG_laptoprZr: that's the difference between dirty sex and making love :P
22:39.55jesuschrist_where is the ppp package rZr ?
22:40.11rZrjesuschrist_, just rename yourself to lucifer666satan , i will know it's you
22:40.14ZogG_laptopon build.pub.meego.com /
22:40.34rZrjesuschrist_, http://rzr.online.fr/q/harmattan read that one
22:41.06panot possible, right?
22:41.46jesuschrist_i dont see under your repo rzr
22:41.50jesuschrist_dont see it
22:42.06rZrsleep 420000 && apt-get update
22:42.12jesuschrist_already did an update
22:44.38jesuschrist_lets try in 10 mins
22:44.49jesuschrist_anyway rzr do you know where the bookmarks on the launcher get stored?
22:45.11rZrfind ~/.config/ -iname "*.desktop"
22:47.58jesuschrist_the extensions is .desktop
22:48.01jesuschrist_?
22:49.22jesuschrist_not finding anything
22:49.26jesuschrist_need inception ?
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22:57.15HtheBe-yes, you there?
22:57.51HtheBwill there be a optimized nitdroid for pr1.3 kernel?
22:57.53ZogG_laptophe wouldn't help
22:57.59ZogG_laptophe didn't get n950
22:58.01ZogG_laptopcheck forums
22:58.10ZogG_laptopnitdroid one
23:00.19HtheBim talking about the N9
23:00.41HtheBother people that has a N950 can then help to make a kernel working for the N950 like before
23:03.01paZogG_laptop, do you know whether it is possible to spawn meego-terminal -e somecommand, and then leave it open instead of the terminal closing as soon as the command ends?
23:03.50ZogG_laptoppa: what command?
23:05.37paany
23:05.40pals, say
23:07.49ZogG_laptopit depends the goal you want. as we can think to trick it, as i don't know how
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23:08.33paheh me neither
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23:08.43pai would like to run a commandline app -h
23:08.49paand then leave the terminal alive
23:11.18rZrscreen ?
23:11.39rZrxtern -e 'screen -e app -h'
23:11.52ZogG_laptopthought so
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23:12.04Oni^pa try start it with .desktop file using options Terminal=True and Exec=app -h &
23:14.51paaha! thanks
23:14.55pai try
23:19.41paOni^, tried that, but terminal still closes
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23:25.10parZr, but screen is not in the official repos, is it
23:26.29rZrjesuschrist_, ngxing !
23:26.39rZrpa, it's in shared repo
23:26.48payep, but i cant put it as dependency
23:26.59Oni^pa do script that start terminal and your app in to it
23:28.09pahm.. not sure what you mean
23:28.33paif i spawn terminal -e from a script, it will still close after the command executed
23:29.42paid need a script that starts my app and leaves a shell
23:29.59pathen i could run terminal with it
23:30.11paor, run it in terminal
23:30.54pamaybe myapp -h; ash  ?
23:31.03palets try
23:32.04ZogG_laptoppa: what your app does?
23:32.42pait downloads contacts from gmail
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23:34.12ZogG_laptopand than?
23:34.23paand then add them to the phone
23:34.52ZogG_laptopwhy u need it open than?
23:35.06pai need to make a desktop icon
23:35.19paand what i want it to do is running a terminal
23:35.26pabut also show the usage of my app
23:35.36Oni^here are some tip to run app in backround http://superuser.com/questions/177218/how-to-start-gui-linux-programs-from-the-command-line-but-separate-from-the-com
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23:37.45rZrjesuschrist_, can u test ngxing ?
23:38.08rZrpa, using syncml or caldav?
23:39.01parZr, none, i use gdata-api
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23:40.56ZogG_laptoppa: make script that waits for enter to quit
23:41.19payea, that would be a suboptimal plan b... thanks
23:43.42paso, my method seems to work
23:44.15payea :)
23:44.56panow i can go to bed.. wont manage to polish anyway for now
23:45.10panightr
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23:45.32HtheBor tgalal__
23:45.50HtheBor... tgalal?
23:45.51HtheBlol
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23:50.16ZogG_laptoptgalal__: wow
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