| 00:19.28 | bef0rd | hi |
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| 05:30.26 | PaulePanter | The N9’s battery is dead. Any experience or hints on how to replace it. Nokia would change it for 60 €, but I found one on Ebay for 13 €. |
| 05:31.16 | PaulePanter | http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIGINAL-NOKIA-BV-5JW-FUR-LUMIA-800-N9-AKKU-ACCU-BATTERIE-1450mAh-/250995744635?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item3a70831f7b#ht_2589wt_1179 |
| 05:35.57 | tomma | PaulePanter, use google to find N9 service manual |
| 05:38.03 | PaulePanter | tomma: Thanks. Could you elaborate, please? To check if the battery fits or to know how to change it? |
| 05:39.08 | tomma | service manual has instructions on how to open and change parts from phone |
| 05:39.37 | PaulePanter | tomma: Yeah. I also saw some video on YouTube on how to do that. So I am set. |
| 05:40.01 | PaulePanter | tomma: My only doubt is, if they really sell original Nokia batteries on Ebeay. |
| 05:40.05 | PaulePanter | ebay? |
| 05:40.09 | PaulePanter | ebay* |
| 05:40.15 | PaulePanter | -? |
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| 06:58.36 | beford | uh |
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| 07:01.15 | djszapi_ | beford: sup |
| 07:04.28 | beford | trying to package my app |
| 07:05.01 | beford | well I've got a package already with psa build-deb, but those packages are not optified |
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| 08:18.02 | pa | beford, i can share with you my script if u want |
| 08:18.13 | pa | it works outside scratchbox |
| 08:19.15 | pa | PaulePanter, did you find it on ebay? some months ago i was looking for it but couldnt find anywhere.. |
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| 10:08.14 | corecode | hi |
| 10:08.37 | corecode | i'm trying to build a package for harmattan, but i'm fairly lost |
| 10:08.38 | corecode | https://github.com/webhamster/advancedcaching |
| 10:08.39 | corecode | this one |
| 10:08.54 | corecode | i installed the qt sdk with harmattan support, but now what? |
| 10:09.03 | corecode | somehow i need a chroot to do the packaging, no? |
| 10:09.41 | djszapi_ | no |
| 10:09.48 | djszapi_ | qt creator should do that for you. |
| 10:11.06 | djszapi_ | unless you meant the platform SDK. |
| 10:13.38 | corecode | hm, how do i go about doing this? |
| 10:13.53 | djszapi_ | doing what exactly? |
| 10:14.10 | djszapi_ | you have still clarified what development environment you have chosen. |
| 10:14.13 | djszapi_ | not* |
| 10:14.52 | corecode | i have not chosen anything |
| 10:15.00 | corecode | i downloaded the qt sdk |
| 10:15.18 | djszapi_ | Would you like to work with Qt Creator or scratchbox? |
| 10:15.45 | corecode | qt creator, i suppose |
| 10:15.53 | corecode | scratchbox was a lot of pain last time i tried |
| 10:16.05 | corecode | i just found something about madde |
| 10:16.25 | djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Publishing_Packaging_your_application.html |
| 10:17.14 | corecode | no idea how that plays with that package |
| 10:17.21 | corecode | i should clarify, this is not my package |
| 10:17.38 | corecode | i'm just trying to build it, since it is lacking a deb i can install |
| 10:18.39 | djszapi_ | read the page above, please. |
| 10:21.21 | corecode | it keeps talking about qt creator |
| 10:21.43 | corecode | i don't think that app is done with qt creator |
| 10:22.02 | djszapi_ | You have said, you would like to use QtCreator.. |
| 10:22.48 | corecode | ok, let me start over |
| 10:23.08 | corecode | there is this application, which i did not write, which i'd like to build for my n9 |
| 10:23.24 | corecode | i've downloaded the QtSDK from nokia |
| 10:23.32 | corecode | now i wonder what to do |
| 10:25.46 | djszapi_ | read the manual. |
| 10:26.09 | corecode | well, the manual talks about using qt creator to create your own app |
| 10:26.13 | djszapi_ | and come back later, if you have /specific/ trouble with something, or the manual is not understandable. |
| 10:26.35 | corecode | essentially, i just need a shell environment where i can run debbuild |
| 10:26.43 | corecode | that's really it |
| 10:27.02 | djszapi_ | have you actually looked into the manual? |
| 10:27.06 | corecode | yes |
| 10:27.08 | djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_Platform_SDK_user_guide_Packaging_and_running_binaries_on_the_device.html?tab=3&q=platform%20sdk&sp=all |
| 10:27.12 | corecode | it talks about madde |
| 10:27.17 | djszapi_ | there is a search at the top left... |
| 10:27.23 | djszapi_ | please, start using the manual.. |
| 10:27.44 | corecode | ... |
| 10:28.29 | djszapi_ | it was written for exactly this purpose, to introduce the development process to the developers. |
| 10:28.45 | djszapi_ | if you have specific questions, people are keen on help, but they are not on repeating the whole manual. |
| 10:29.25 | corecode | i did have a secific question: |
| 10:29.38 | djszapi_ | is bailing out |
| 10:30.00 | corecode | how do i get a shell environment which is set up so that i can use the debian packaging tools that come with the qt sdk |
| 10:30.12 | corecode | i just need a prompt where i can run debuild |
| 10:30.52 | djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_MADDE_terminal_user_guide.html?tab=3&q=madde&sp=all |
| 10:31.04 | djszapi_ | seriously, if you do not wanna help for yourself, you make others' life hard. |
| 10:31.11 | corecode | i'm reading this |
| 10:31.24 | djszapi_ | no, you are just flooding here. |
| 10:31.52 | djszapi_ | but perhaps someone will have the time to repeat or paste the manual here, if that makes you happy... |
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| 10:37.40 | corecode | aha. |
| 10:37.51 | corecode | debuild does not come with qtsdk |
| 10:37.56 | corecode | that explains things |
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| 11:03.34 | rashm2k | elo elo |
| 11:04.24 | rashm2k | how can a list delegate know what index it is at? |
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| 11:06.06 | ZogG_laptop | with magic |
| 11:07.43 | rashm2k | ???? |
| 11:08.42 | corecode | to follow up to my earlier question: |
| 11:08.51 | corecode | the answer is "you don't need any special setup" |
| 11:13.24 | heymaster-laptop | how to submit app to contest? |
| 11:16.04 | ZogG_laptop | better to get help at thread |
| 11:16.16 | ZogG_laptop | there is official thread on TMO |
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| 11:17.40 | heymaster-laptop | ok will check |
| 11:19.43 | ZogG_laptop | than do it please |
| 11:22.16 | rashm2k | any ideas on how you can get the index of a list delegate? |
| 11:23.08 | ZogG_laptop | there is var for index |
| 11:23.38 | rashm2k | is this available within the delegate it self? |
| 11:24.31 | ZogG_laptop | i think |
| 11:25.36 | rashm2k | so the var is called index? |
| 11:26.13 | ZogG_laptop | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-listview.html#count-prop |
| 11:26.21 | ZogG_laptop | i don't rememeber |
| 11:27.57 | ZogG_laptop | i think there is index var |
| 11:28.05 | rashm2k | I'm not sure that will be available within the delegate itself |
| 11:28.14 | ZogG_laptop | but anyway you can make global var and count on every delegation |
| 11:28.54 | rashm2k | how? |
| 11:29.15 | rashm2k | sorry yes |
| 11:29.33 | rashm2k | it says The index is exposed as an accessible index property. |
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| 11:37.30 | djszapi_ | Hi! Can I overcome the limitation of being unable to download maps over mobile internet connection? |
| 11:37.46 | djszapi_ | I do not unfortunately have a wired connection, nor wifi. |
| 11:38.36 | rashm2k | Does it not download the maps dynamically as you are travelling? |
| 11:39.06 | djszapi_ | that is not quite what I wish... |
| 11:39.22 | djszapi_ | I would like to download entire maps in one step. |
| 11:39.30 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: hotspot for laptop and download from laptop :P |
| 11:39.45 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: how? |
| 11:40.03 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: traveling in China means hefty roaming... |
| 11:40.21 | djszapi_ | and no, I would not like to move around in a big city by hand. |
| 11:40.32 | rashm2k | I tried this wireless hotspot using a laptop |
| 11:40.34 | djszapi_ | I would like to download it in one step, and then I have everyting in that city. |
| 11:40.35 | rashm2k | it works |
| 11:40.44 | rashm2k | give me 2 mins to check it out |
| 11:41.06 | ZogG_laptop | there is builtin app for hotspot |
| 11:41.14 | ZogG_laptop | you enable it and it gives u pasword |
| 11:41.22 | ZogG_laptop | simple as is |
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| 11:43.22 | rashm2k | thats it |
| 11:43.23 | djszapi_ | simple what? |
| 11:43.26 | rashm2k | hostapd |
| 11:43.33 | rashm2k | a linux utility |
| 11:43.36 | djszapi_ | I do not still know how to download a map for the phone.l |
| 11:43.36 | djszapi_ | phone* |
| 11:43.47 | rashm2k | it'll giv eyou a wireless hotspot |
| 11:44.00 | djszapi_ | congratulation for reinveting joikuspot |
| 11:44.06 | djszapi_ | reinventing* |
| 11:44.11 | djszapi_ | but as you can see, this is not my problem |
| 11:44.20 | djszapi_ | since I have been using this irc via the hotspot for weeks... |
| 11:44.27 | djszapi_ | the problem is that I do not know where these maps originate from. |
| 11:44.38 | djszapi_ | and how I could feed the maps application with those explicitely. |
| 11:44.45 | rashm2k | ???? |
| 11:44.54 | rashm2k | You have a wired connection? |
| 11:45.06 | rashm2k | So create a wirelesss hotspot and download the maps |
| 11:45.46 | djszapi_ | I would appreciate avoiding two-way hotspot, if possible. |
| 11:46.02 | rashm2k | two way? |
| 11:46.38 | djszapi_ | how would you call that if youhave hotspot on both ends? |
| 11:46.42 | djszapi_ | three-way, one-way? |
| 11:46.49 | djszapi_ | you have* |
| 11:47.00 | djszapi_ | 12:44 < djszapi_> the problem is that I do not know where these maps originate from. |
| 11:47.02 | djszapi_ | 12:44 < djszapi_> and how I could feed the maps application with those explicitely. |
| 11:47.05 | djszapi_ | I believe this is the real question. |
| 11:47.35 | djszapi_ | so I need 1) Url 2) device location. |
| 11:47.41 | rashm2k | sorry I don't understand |
| 11:47.53 | djszapi_ | do not worry, others will. |
| 11:49.31 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: you use drive? |
| 11:49.40 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: like I said, no, maps. |
| 11:50.01 | ZogG_laptop | i think those use same maps, don't they? |
| 11:50.13 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: check TMO than |
| 11:50.14 | djszapi_ | no clue, but I do not even care. |
| 11:50.34 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: if you don't care, why would we care to help you? |
| 11:50.37 | djszapi_ | all I need is where to download those maps from manually, if possible, and where exactly to put on the device. |
| 11:50.51 | rashm2k | djszapi_ why would you want to do that? |
| 11:50.55 | djszapi_ | you should not really care about helping whether drive or maps use the same. |
| 11:51.02 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: to get the maps? |
| 11:51.05 | ZogG_laptop | sometimes i dont get how people ask question and when u try to help they answer like that |
| 11:51.08 | rashm2k | create a wirless hotspot |
| 11:51.12 | rashm2k | using laptop |
| 11:51.24 | rashm2k | then go into settings on phone and click download maps |
| 11:51.33 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: why don't you read what I mean? |
| 11:51.50 | djszapi_ | I have said few times, I would appreciate avoiding the two-way hotspotting. |
| 11:51.52 | djszapi_ | if possible. |
| 11:52.06 | ZogG_laptop | why is it 2 way? |
| 11:52.10 | ZogG_laptop | you have bluetooth |
| 11:52.15 | ZogG_laptop | or cable |
| 11:52.17 | djszapi_ | huh ? |
| 11:52.29 | ZogG_laptop | you need internet on latop to download |
| 11:52.33 | ZogG_laptop | why is it 2 way? |
| 11:52.43 | djszapi_ | because like I wrote many times already, I have a hotspot from my phone to the laptop... |
| 11:53.01 | rashm2k | but you said you have wired connection? |
| 11:53.03 | djszapi_ | aka. joikuspot |
| 11:53.06 | ZogG_laptop | so your laptop or phone has internet?? |
| 11:53.27 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: 12:37 < djszapi_> I do not unfortunately have a wired connection, nor wifi. |
| 11:53.51 | rashm2k | ooooohhhhhhh |
| 11:53.53 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: both |
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| 11:54.07 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: the line right after my question |
| 11:54.10 | djszapi_ | why I had the question at all |
| 11:54.12 | rashm2k | do you have a cheap android phone? |
| 11:54.17 | djszapi_ | you did not bother to read my second line :) |
| 11:54.23 | rashm2k | or one you can borrow |
| 11:54.30 | djszapi_ | unfortunately no |
| 11:54.46 | rashm2k | 3g dongle? |
| 11:54.47 | djszapi_ | again, an 1) Url 2) Location - would help. |
| 11:55.01 | rashm2k | yes but other options would be so much easier |
| 11:55.11 | djszapi_ | (if that way is possible, if not I need proves as well) |
| 11:55.22 | djszapi_ | buying an android phone? |
| 11:55.24 | djszapi_ | no, thanks |
| 11:55.31 | rashm2k | lol |
| 11:55.39 | djszapi_ | surely, everybody should buy an android phone for solving such issues :D |
| 11:55.42 | djszapi_ | how clever.. |
| 11:55.51 | rashm2k | 3g dongle? |
| 11:56.20 | djszapi_ | not for this provider, no. |
| 11:56.43 | rashm2k | they are easy to unlock |
| 11:56.43 | djszapi_ | I have a vodafone, but that is not compatible with another provider's sim card. |
| 11:56.52 | rashm2k | which model number is it? |
| 11:57.04 | djszapi_ | I can do this at home in few minutes? |
| 11:57.07 | djszapi_ | to unlock the usb modem? |
| 11:57.11 | rashm2k | yes |
| 11:57.15 | djszapi_ | without breaking it, so no any risks? |
| 11:57.20 | rashm2k | no |
| 11:57.26 | rashm2k | I done it plenty of times |
| 11:57.42 | rashm2k | even if it breaks they are only £10 brand new |
| 11:57.47 | djszapi_ | K3770 |
| 11:57.53 | djszapi_ | HSPA USB Stick. |
| 11:58.00 | djszapi_ | no... |
| 11:58.04 | djszapi_ | it was something like 40-50 EUR |
| 11:58.43 | rashm2k | http://jknoproblem.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-unlock-vodafone-k3770-z-zte.html |
| 11:58.52 | rashm2k | http://mymodem.in/vodafone-k3770-z-unlock-solution-by-nirav/ |
| 11:59.45 | djszapi_ | also, I do not really know how this unlocking and then sim card move, back, hotspot from laptop etc is simpler |
| 11:59.49 | djszapi_ | than ssh+cd+wget |
| 12:00.09 | djszapi_ | if I know the url for wget, and the location for cd |
| 12:00.11 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: what maps you need? |
| 12:00.24 | djszapi_ | could be done even with one ssh command, and just wget |
| 12:00.43 | rashm2k | try this |
| 12:00.45 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: right now Galway city, but could have a need for any in the future... |
| 12:00.56 | ZogG_laptop | what country? |
| 12:00.57 | rashm2k | grep the qml files on the device for http |
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| 12:01.30 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: lol, afganistan |
| 12:01.38 | ZogG_laptop | fuck it |
| 12:01.48 | ZogG_laptop | i wanted to download for you on device and upload to dropbox |
| 12:01.54 | ZogG_laptop | but your attitude is kiling |
| 12:01.57 | ZogG_laptop | do it yourself |
| 12:01.59 | ZogG_laptop | nice day |
| 12:02.13 | djszapi_ | cheers |
| 12:02.20 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: qml files where? |
| 12:02.46 | djszapi_ | and why qml files only? |
| 12:04.34 | rashm2k | be easier to read troi try and understand |
| 12:04.57 | djszapi_ | I wonder nobody faced this issue yet |
| 12:05.14 | djszapi_ | perhaps the map dowloading is not a wanted feature. |
| 12:05.26 | djszapi_ | otherwise everybody would face this with mobile internet connection. |
| 12:05.47 | djszapi_ | but it is really useful when you go abroad, and you would like to avoid the roaming. |
| 12:05.57 | djszapi_ | and still having proper map for the place. |
| 12:06.20 | rashm2k | yes but nearly everyone has wireless |
| 12:06.38 | djszapi_ | on mobile phones on the way? |
| 12:06.42 | djszapi_ | I highly doubt that. |
| 12:06.48 | djszapi_ | most people rather have mobile internet |
| 12:07.09 | djszapi_ | actually an N9 without a mobile internet is weird to be honest :) |
| 12:07.21 | ZogG_laptop | people are smart enuf to download maps before they go |
| 12:07.28 | ZogG_laptop | and wifi in hotels is fine |
| 12:07.52 | djszapi_ | I doubt that to be honest |
| 12:08.05 | djszapi_ | most geeks I talked to prefer wired internet for speed, and mobile internet for the phone. |
| 12:08.27 | djszapi_ | either way, my question about url and location are still valid. |
| 12:08.30 | ZogG_laptop | if i go to other country i pack bag and i prepare all i may need, documents, chargers, MAPS :P |
| 12:08.46 | djszapi_ | pfff |
| 12:08.55 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: google is your friend |
| 12:09.19 | djszapi_ | so if anybody knows how the maps application handles the maps, please speak up. |
| 12:09.45 | ZogG_laptop | ~google |
| 12:09.46 | infobot | from memory, google is http://google.com |
| 12:09.54 | ZogG_laptop | ~maps |
| 12:09.54 | infobot | maps are at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html |
| 12:10.43 | ZogG_laptop | gri: sup |
| 12:13.23 | ZogG_laptop | why kickstar pay thru amazon only |
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| 13:11.57 | djszapi_ | pa: cannot stand not irc'ing while biking :P |
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| 14:07.42 | rashm2k | djszapi_ |
| 14:07.49 | rashm2k | it's generally quite saf |
| 14:07.50 | rashm2k | e |
| 14:08.01 | djszapi_ | what can cause issues? |
| 14:08.37 | rashm2k | if you dont follow instructions |
| 14:08.47 | rashm2k | best to di=sable av scan |
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| 14:30.13 | rashm2k | how do you remove an item from a QML list? |
| 14:30.48 | djszapi_ | remove from the model? |
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| 15:01.34 | hedayat | Hi! I'd like to know how can I use localized numbers in QML? |
| 15:01.58 | hedayat | I have find Qt.formatDate/formatDateTime/formatTime for date and time; but nothing for numbers |
| 15:03.09 | hedayat | And it seems that there are no "Localize" objects available in QML in harmattan, while I found some pointers about it but it seems that it is not available in N9 |
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| 15:03.41 | djszapi_ | so which application is recommended now for getting from one place to another? The drive? |
| 15:03.53 | djszapi_ | by bike. |
| 15:05.52 | hedayat | djszapi_: probably yes. :P |
| 15:06.52 | djszapi_ | I presume maps and drives do not use internet once the maps are downloaded? |
| 15:06.57 | djszapi_ | so they all work offline with gps? |
| 15:07.53 | djszapi_ | making sure =) |
| 15:07.54 | hedayat | djszapi_: They can, but IIRC they also have an "online" mode too. You can check their settings (probably in Maps). |
| 15:08.12 | djszapi_ | "Sorry, something went wrong connecting to the server." |
| 15:08.28 | djszapi_ | I have just tried to type the destination. |
| 15:08.44 | dm8tbr | djszapi_: acquiring position is faster if you are online. also if you want to search for destinations it is faster if it can offload to the nokia servers. |
| 15:09.18 | djszapi_ | interesting |
| 15:09.26 | djszapi_ | it requires the city, address format |
| 15:09.33 | djszapi_ | "address city" did not work |
| 15:10.14 | djszapi_ | how much does it consume the battery while biking? |
| 15:11.41 | dm8tbr | as much as while walking or driving a car |
| 15:12.00 | djszapi_ | which is? |
| 15:12.55 | djszapi_ | great, it has battery saving while being in the background. |
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| 15:31.50 | pa | morning! |
| 15:31.54 | pa | er.. afternoon |
| 15:36.00 | djszapi_ | pa: hey dude! |
| 15:36.19 | pa | hey djszapi_ :) |
| 15:36.21 | pa | sup |
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| 15:40.02 | djszapi_ | pa: just about to off to a bike tour |
| 15:40.04 | djszapi_ | 80 km |
| 15:40.11 | djszapi_ | I am weak this weekend, no more 100+ :P |
| 15:40.20 | pa | night one, as you like ;) |
| 15:40.32 | djszapi_ | why? |
| 15:40.40 | djszapi_ | we do not have dark until 10 pm here. |
| 15:40.49 | pa | ah cool |
| 15:40.56 | djszapi_ | 80 km is viable in three hours |
| 15:41.02 | djszapi_ | 16:41 :) |
| 15:41.13 | pa | i thought it was getting dark earlier these days in southern europe :) |
| 15:41.18 | pa | ah right |
| 15:41.24 | djszapi_ | well, I am in Ireland |
| 15:41.25 | pa | the time zone is also different |
| 15:41.26 | djszapi_ | that is not quite south :) |
| 15:41.43 | djszapi_ | I should really buy a mounter |
| 15:41.52 | pa | did i convince you? :p |
| 15:41.53 | djszapi_ | the time is better spent on the bike with a smart phone in front of me |
| 15:41.59 | djszapi_ | well I can read |
| 15:42.03 | djszapi_ | I can chat etc |
| 15:42.09 | pa | thats true |
| 15:42.16 | djszapi_ | listen to a movie etc |
| 15:42.23 | djszapi_ | the question is the battery |
| 15:42.28 | pa | but with plastic on the screen it doesnt swipe well |
| 15:42.30 | djszapi_ | perhaps I could hook up a dynamo along with the lights |
| 15:42.33 | djszapi_ | to charge my N9 |
| 15:42.34 | djszapi_ | unsure |
| 15:42.39 | pa | and without it might be a bit exposed |
| 15:42.47 | pa | yes i was thinking about some sort of bike charger |
| 15:42.50 | pa | im sure it exist |
| 15:42.58 | djszapi_ | "bike charger" ? |
| 15:43.01 | djszapi_ | for smart phones, you mean? |
| 15:43.05 | pa | it shouldnt be a big deal to generate 500mw 5V |
| 15:43.06 | djszapi_ | in general bike charger is dynamo :P |
| 15:43.19 | djszapi_ | it depends how much it consumes |
| 15:43.20 | pa | yes a dynamo, bu tyou probably need something a bit more advanced |
| 15:43.24 | djszapi_ | I would not like to get slowed down too much either... |
| 15:43.32 | pa | coz you probably have to stabilize the current |
| 15:43.59 | pa | at least.. if you care about your N9 :) |
| 15:44.21 | djszapi_ | yeah |
| 15:44.22 | djszapi_ | sure |
| 15:44.35 | djszapi_ | actually I was the fan of the lights chargeable from USB |
| 15:44.36 | djszapi_ | but I reconsidered that |
| 15:44.38 | djszapi_ | dynamo with batteries work better |
| 15:44.45 | djszapi_ | there are dynamos you can turn off |
| 15:44.53 | djszapi_ | so no matter what happens, you will always have current |
| 15:45.03 | djszapi_ | and charging a led when your battery is off, it is not much energy anyways |
| 15:45.15 | pa | hehe :) |
| 15:45.17 | djszapi_ | it is not like 10-15+ years ago when you had those consuming lights... |
| 15:45.32 | djszapi_ | led should not consume too much |
| 15:45.38 | djszapi_ | how visible you would be, that is another question... |
| 15:46.06 | pa | anyway you could in principle also get one of those battery based usb chargers |
| 15:46.19 | pa | they would extend life of the N9 quite a bit |
| 15:46.24 | pa | sure enough to cycle 100km |
| 15:47.09 | pa | i mean in theory 1450mA should be enough for 3 hours with screen on |
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| 15:47.45 | pa | or does N9 consume more than 500mA on active/screen on? |
| 15:49.43 | djszapi_ | well, if you watch a video, I am unsure. |
| 15:50.01 | djszapi_ | document reading probably not. |
| 15:50.53 | djszapi_ | right now, I need to have the phone in one hand, that is a must have. |
| 15:50.57 | djszapi_ | if I wanna use it. |
| 15:51.09 | djszapi_ | means, I can either make actions very roughly with one hand |
| 15:51.18 | djszapi_ | or I would need to use both hands, which sucks :) |
| 15:51.39 | djszapi_ | although, with a mounter that should be an extension for drive or a separate alarm app |
| 15:51.49 | djszapi_ | "remove your smart phone, dude" |
| 15:52.02 | pa | thats a good idea |
| 15:52.07 | pa | but i mean |
| 15:52.20 | pa | if you stop for a moment it cant bug your life |
| 15:53.02 | djszapi_ | well you need to lock your bike |
| 15:53.02 | djszapi_ | so there could be a reasonable time |
| 15:53.03 | djszapi_ | and dismissable. |
| 15:53.17 | djszapi_ | I would even consider noisy alarm |
| 15:53.17 | djszapi_ | until you dismiss |
| 15:53.40 | djszapi_ | and the feature could be optional to not disturb others not using mounter |
| 15:54.04 | pa | :) |
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| 16:35.52 | pa | ok, question: Im trying to create a qdeclarativeitem |
| 16:36.08 | pa | and i somehow need to pass a pointer to a qqueue to the item |
| 16:36.29 | pa | or a pointer of an object that contains it |
| 16:36.41 | pa | how should i do that from QML? |
| 16:37.42 | pa | like i have MyShinyItem { id: whatever; object: ? } |
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| 16:38.51 | faenil | set the qqueue with setContextProperty |
| 16:38.57 | faenil | so you have it on the qml side |
| 16:39.36 | faenil | pa, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qtbinding.html#embedding-c-objects-into-qml-components |
| 16:40.55 | pa | thanks :) |
| 16:41.06 | faenil | np :) |
| 17:01.48 | pa | whats the right way to share such stuff (qqueues, qlists) between objects, or even qml? |
| 17:01.54 | pa | some sort of qt shared pointers? |
| 17:02.41 | pa | ah no, QObject * |
| 17:02.44 | pa | plain |
| 17:04.04 | pa | but then how do i declare the Q_PROPERTY associated to a QObject *? |
| 17:04.12 | pa | (in the qdeclarativeitem i mean) |
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| 17:50.35 | djszapi_ | pa: reached 49.5 km / h :) |
| 17:51.06 | pa | uhu.. thats quite impressive :) on the flat? |
| 17:51.12 | djszapi_ | nope :P |
| 17:51.15 | djszapi_ | but still |
| 17:51.20 | pa | :) |
| 17:51.20 | djszapi_ | it is my record so far :) |
| 17:51.24 | djszapi_ | last record was 42.8 |
| 17:51.27 | djszapi_ | on the same way |
| 17:51.31 | pa | do u have citybike? |
| 17:51.34 | pa | or mountain? |
| 17:51.41 | djszapi_ | city |
| 17:51.54 | djszapi_ | but not so thin wheel |
| 17:51.56 | djszapi_ | unfortunately |
| 17:51.59 | djszapi_ | it is something like 27 mm |
| 17:52.04 | djszapi_ | my friend has 22 mm :P |
| 17:52.13 | pa | 27.. well it+s not so thick |
| 17:52.15 | djszapi_ | he usually bikes 70 km / h :) |
| 17:53.11 | djszapi_ | his record was 78 km / h, I think. |
| 17:53.14 | pa | im instead sitting and struggling about how to pass data to plot to my qdeclarativeitem plotter |
| 17:53.29 | djszapi_ | would this all be measured fine by gps by the way? |
| 17:53.34 | pa | on a racebike once i reached 105, on a pretty steep street |
| 17:53.36 | djszapi_ | how much precisity does it have? |
| 17:53.52 | djszapi_ | ah yeah, my friend dislikes the racebikes, so do I. |
| 17:53.56 | djszapi_ | it is not healthy... |
| 17:54.28 | pa | well im sure that it would work fine, if you keep the speed for at least 5-10 secs |
| 17:54.42 | pa | actually it seems that gps gets more accurate the faster you go |
| 17:54.50 | pa | (it seems to me) |
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| 17:55.18 | djszapi_ | 105 on a bike is .... I need to take my hat off... I believe ... |
| 17:55.50 | pa | yeah i agree its not healthy, thats also why i stopped using it, and now when i bike, i go on my mountain bike with gel seat :) |
| 17:56.32 | djszapi_ | hmm, I see. |
| 17:56.40 | djszapi_ | I should probably also get a mountain bike in Helsinki. |
| 17:56.50 | djszapi_ | do not suppose city bike would be fine for the winter. |
| 17:57.08 | pa | here people use nails on the tyres, when it's cold |
| 17:57.15 | pa | spikes i mean |
| 17:58.03 | djszapi_ | interesting solution. |
| 17:59.21 | pa | heh :) |
| 17:59.43 | pa | so to pass data to a qdeclarative item i have to use qdeclarativelistproperties? |
| 17:59.51 | djszapi_ | could you please say the region again? |
| 17:59.58 | pa | jeez.. a more inefficient way no hah.. |
| 18:00.12 | pa | its norway |
| 18:00.17 | djszapi_ | I know |
| 18:00.22 | djszapi_ | it is the west |
| 18:00.25 | pa | called hordaland |
| 18:00.45 | djszapi_ | that might resemble Helsinki |
| 18:00.50 | pa | im sure there's some norwegian in here that can tell you more |
| 18:00.50 | djszapi_ | though probably more wet. |
| 18:00.56 | djszapi_ | and less snowy. |
| 18:01.03 | pa | oh definitely :) |
| 18:01.10 | djszapi_ | so less problem with bikes. |
| 18:01.15 | djszapi_ | during the winter, that is. |
| 18:01.21 | pa | but you need to be fine biking with the rain |
| 18:01.27 | pa | i'd prefer to bike with the snow |
| 18:01.36 | djszapi_ | sure |
| 18:01.49 | djszapi_ | falling snow is better than falling rain if it is not snow storm |
| 18:02.00 | djszapi_ | however the road is awkward if not cleaned. :) |
| 18:02.42 | djszapi_ | in that cold (-20/30), the smart phone would work better than the cycling computer I guess. |
| 18:02.50 | djszapi_ | read somewhere that, the cycling computer may stop working at that cold. |
| 18:03.14 | pa | i also read that N9 doesnt work so good with -stuff :) |
| 18:03.15 | djszapi_ | my N9 was fine, except when I dropped accidentally into the snow, and I had to find it in the big snow bomb... |
| 18:04.26 | djszapi_ | N9 was fine in -20/30 for me. |
| 18:04.30 | djszapi_ | irc-chatter and everything. |
| 18:04.39 | djszapi_ | I even used that in the snow fall. |
| 18:06.05 | djszapi_ | wondering if I was riding with 105 km/h, I would probably fall off with this road quality... |
| 18:06.17 | pa | so it sucks in IE? |
| 18:06.27 | pa | i thought roads were nice |
| 18:06.29 | pa | no eh |
| 18:06.43 | djszapi_ | perhaps it is in and around Dublin. |
| 18:06.49 | djszapi_ | but not on the countryside where I live. :-) |
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| 18:29.42 | pa | i dont get whats wrong with my code.. probably this is just not possible.. pastebin.com/ReASKESd |
| 18:30.21 | pa | when i try to set the property "data" from qml, everything crashes |
| 18:31.23 | pa | and it doesnt even enter the setData() method |
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| 18:44.01 | djszapi_ | pa: black magic, shall I remove it? :P |
| 18:45.01 | pa | yeah, without that it always help :) |
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| 18:51.13 | pa | djszapi, essentially i need to pass some data to a qdeclarative item. At the moment im binding a (QObject *) myqqueue to the rootContext, but it seens that inside qml, when i try to assign this qobject * to the property qobject *data in my Curve item, everything explodes |
| 18:51.59 | pa | i was wondering if there is any way to avoid qdeclarativelistproperties |
| 18:52.31 | djszapi_ | sorry, I do not have time for investigation. :) |
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| 18:58.14 | djszapi_ | pa: do you use spotify while biking? |
| 19:01.40 | pa | i stopped using it at all since it restricted the free usage |
| 19:03.34 | djszapi_ | how do you listen to music while biking? |
| 19:05.50 | pa | mp3? :) |
| 19:06.02 | djszapi_ | that is not an application |
| 19:06.13 | pa | well with the player |
| 19:07.13 | pa | does anyone recall an app that does some graphing of something for N9, that is not in python and that is free and could be open source? |
| 19:08.05 | djszapi_ | hmm, I do not have a pocket on my biking trouser though... |
| 19:08.14 | djszapi_ | unsure where I would store the n9, even for listening to music... |
| 19:08.27 | djszapi_ | perhaps a bluetooth headset could help, but that would consume the battery a lot, I believe. |
| 19:08.28 | pa | armband? |
| 19:09.21 | djszapi_ | that could work. |
| 19:09.49 | djszapi_ | although, then I would not be able to suddenly browser the internet once I have a mounter and so forth. :) |
| 19:09.55 | djszapi_ | so really better to get the mounter. |
| 19:10.02 | djszapi_ | browse* |
| 19:10.27 | pa | with the mount, you probably need bluetooth earphones tho |
| 19:10.40 | djszapi_ | why? |
| 19:10.59 | pa | well i would feel weird with the cable hooked to the phone on the mount |
| 19:11.22 | djszapi_ | do not understand why. |
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| 19:11.40 | djszapi_ | you would just do the same as with other cable stuff, like cycling computer, etc |
| 19:11.44 | pa | well because the phone in the armband moves with you, the phone on the bike mount moves with the bike |
| 19:11.45 | djszapi_ | surround the frame etc |
| 19:12.14 | pa | therefore you would have a cable that hooks your ears to the bike :) |
| 19:12.21 | pa | its probably fine |
| 19:12.26 | pa | but i would feel uncomf |
| 19:12.27 | djszapi_ | why is that problematic? |
| 19:13.20 | djszapi_ | have not ever tried, but most likely I would hear too much from the music directly on the mounter |
| 19:13.25 | djszapi_ | would not* |
| 19:13.40 | pa | yeah, n9 is so quiet |
| 19:13.59 | djszapi_ | when vehicles pass me. |
| 19:14.07 | djszapi_ | with 80-100 :) |
| 19:14.35 | djszapi_ | even with earphones, there would be most likely problems in that case |
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| 19:22.27 | pa | ok so i found an example using qvariantlist |
| 19:22.42 | pa | it sucks that to plot data, it has to be copied into an appropriate container |
| 19:23.07 | pa | im frustrated. |
| 19:23.08 | pa | i go home |
| 19:23.42 | djszapi_ | :) |
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| 19:38.23 | Scifig | Hi, is there a way to start "All Songs" playlist of Harmattan Music Player from command line? I have tried invoking MusicSuiteInterface using dbus command line but so far I could only get individual songs to play. |
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| 21:57.37 | pa | finally i think i found the way |
| 21:57.44 | pa | damn sometimes qml i soo ugly |
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| 22:46.46 | pa | stupid questions: are there line images that are not flat color but that have some sort of gradient falloff towards the edges? |
| 22:46.56 | pa | in the phone, i mean |
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| 23:59.51 | djszapi_ | pa: of course |