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| 08:03.46 | pa | so this has been asked before, but.. any way to do ssh -X to the phone and export phone app windows on the desktop? |
| 08:04.03 | pa | (to avoid vnc, which is slow, and which doesnt let the screen go off) |
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| 08:04.27 | ZogG_laptop | what for? |
| 08:05.00 | pa | to export phone app windows to the desktop |
| 08:06.17 | ZogG_laptop | i got it, but why? |
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| 08:08.15 | pa | for debugging, for example |
| 08:09.10 | pa | or if you want to send sms and you have your phone somewhere else |
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| 09:27.49 | khertan | Morning |
| 09:33.20 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: morning \o |
| 09:33.45 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: gonna try to port apps to bb? |
| 09:33.53 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, probably |
| 09:34.17 | ZogG_laptop | tell me how it goes :P |
| 09:34.31 | khertan | first i need an emulator or a device |
| 09:34.42 | khertan | and for the moment ... i got none |
| 09:34.50 | khertan | doesn't run on linux :) |
| 09:34.53 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: join #qt-qnx btw |
| 09:35.00 | khertan | so i m creating a virtual box image |
| 09:35.06 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: cascad does work on linux |
| 09:35.15 | khertan | how ? |
| 09:35.20 | ZogG_laptop | it's not off supported yet |
| 09:35.24 | khertan | where to get it ? |
| 09:35.24 | ZogG_laptop | but it has linux version |
| 09:35.32 | ZogG_laptop | lemme grep the log |
| 09:36.36 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: https://developer.blackberry.com/cascades/downloads/fetch/installer-bbndk-BB10_0_06-linux-543-201207171612-201208070655.bin |
| 09:37.00 | ZogG_laptop | but u would still need emulator/simulator/agregator/whateverator |
| 09:44.40 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, ll be more difficult to test specially because i use python |
| 09:44.41 | khertan | :) |
| 09:47.08 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: i think if you port few apps u may get device from Ash |
| 09:47.32 | Kozzi | how is the compability of apps written for harmattan with bb? |
| 09:48.21 | Kozzi | is it straight forward to port apps from har->bb or bb->har? |
| 09:48.59 | ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: i don't think so as they don't share same qml components as well Qtmobility and stuff can be different |
| 09:49.50 | ZogG_laptop | gonna download linux version |
| 09:50.16 | ZogG_laptop | after all, all i need is to re-write qml part |
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| 10:03.07 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, he ask me if i ll port app to bb10 so i'm looking at it :) |
| 10:03.48 | khertan | ZogG_laptop, should not be complicated are api of cascade look similar to qt components use for maemo |
| 10:04.14 | ZogG_laptop | khertan: i hope it would be easy to me to start developing for it :P |
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| 10:27.21 | djszapi | jonni: do you have a harmattan environment at hand? |
| 10:30.11 | jonni | djszapi: yes |
| 10:30.28 | djszapi | jonni: mind testing fakeroot apt-get install qt5-* |
| 10:30.29 | djszapi | ? |
| 10:30.36 | djszapi | from the community repository. |
| 10:30.38 | djszapi | just for installation now. |
| 10:31.20 | jonni | sure I can test if you tell what lines to add to sources.list for community repo |
| 10:32.37 | djszapi | jonni: echo 'deb http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ./' >>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/nicks.list |
| 10:33.11 | djszapi | jonni: you do not seem to have been the user of our community repository ;-) |
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| 10:33.50 | jonni | havent needed community repo in my sb env :) |
| 10:34.12 | djszapi | jonni: wow |
| 10:34.27 | djszapi | jonni: the harmattan development repository was always enough for your purposes, like apps in ovi? |
| 10:35.04 | jonni | djszapi: well I cheat, and use fully signed pr1.3 repo ;) |
| 10:35.33 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: leak the keys :) |
| 10:36.12 | djszapi | jonni: but they do not contain everything either |
| 10:36.19 | djszapi | I mean the community repository has 650+ packages. |
| 10:36.37 | djszapi | I am sure most of them are unavailable under the nokia umbrella since they have not needed those mostly. |
| 10:37.10 | jonni | djszapi: just tested fakeroot apt-get install qt5-* and runned into million depency errors like cmake-qt-gui: Depends: cmake-data but it is not going to be installed |
| 10:37.22 | djszapi | yay :) |
| 10:38.47 | djszapi | jonni: for which package? |
| 10:38.59 | djszapi | qt5 should not ideally depend on cmake. |
| 10:39.22 | djszapi | I had the impression, that should be optional if any. |
| 10:39.26 | djszapi | it was not needed for the c-obs build either. |
| 10:39.54 | jonni | well I just did fakeroot apt-get install qt5-* and and that depency error came up, so some qt5-* package depends on it. |
| 10:40.38 | djszapi | how about apt-get if install |
| 10:40.40 | djszapi | -f |
| 10:40.44 | djszapi | and then apt-get install qt5-base |
| 10:40.51 | djszapi | see if the base at least works. |
| 10:41.40 | jonni | yes base installs fine. |
| 10:41.48 | djszapi | declarative? |
| 10:42.16 | jonni | and that installs fine too |
| 10:42.36 | djszapi | then what didn't install fine? |
| 10:42.39 | djszapi | qt5-multimedia? |
| 10:42.46 | djszapi | qt5-script? |
| 10:42.51 | djszapi | qt5-location? |
| 10:42.53 | djszapi | qt5-3d? |
| 10:42.57 | djszapi | qt5-sensors? |
| 10:43.00 | djszapi | qt5-xmlpatterns? |
| 10:43.17 | jonni | lets see if I install one by one.... |
| 10:43.37 | djszapi | k :) |
| 10:46.08 | djszapi | -nomake tests -nomake examples -nomake demos -nomake translations -> so you cannot run a demo off-hand. |
| 10:46.09 | jonni | wierd, everything went fine when installing one by one. so maybe it was just some wierd problem on 1st time |
| 10:46.13 | djszapi | or example, unfortunately. |
| 10:46.36 | djszapi | what does apt-cache search qt5- return ? |
| 10:46.45 | djszapi | perhaps, it tries to install other packages as well. |
| 10:46.48 | djszapi | which cause issues. |
| 10:47.00 | djszapi | perhaps we could have a qt5 metapackage for all qt5 related modules |
| 10:48.00 | djszapi | jonni: ^ |
| 10:48.16 | jonni | [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~] > apt-cache search qt5-| cut -f1 -d' '|xargs |
| 10:48.16 | jonni | qt5-3d qt5-base qt5-declarative qt5-jsbackend qt5-location qt5-multimedia qt5-script qt5-sensors qt5-xmlpatterns |
| 10:49.13 | djszapi | this needs some investigation then |
| 10:49.22 | djszapi | I wanted to update my blog post about the coming qt5 beta 1 for harmatan |
| 10:49.24 | djszapi | harmattan* |
| 10:49.30 | djszapi | and I wished to write apt-get install qt5-* |
| 10:49.38 | djszapi | perhaps I should just then produce a qt5 metapackage. |
| 10:49.45 | djszapi | for being correct and precise about this. |
| 10:50.09 | jonni | or get someone else to test, if my system was just having a bad hair day. |
| 10:50.29 | djszapi | that would mean, anybody could have that in the future :) |
| 10:50.49 | jonni | yeah, meta package might be better solution |
| 10:51.17 | djszapi | so the next task is qt-components and qtquick2 branch |
| 10:51.43 | djszapi | I wonder if this qt5 application development workflow would be supported by QtCreator. |
| 10:52.04 | djszapi | jonni: it is ok I can do my application in scratchbox without any problems, but unfortunately that would not hit many application developers here. :) |
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| 11:00.19 | jonni | djszapi: I remember seeing in tmo qt5 thread that someone did already integration with qtcreator... but I didnt read any further... |
| 11:01.42 | jonni | might have been ajalkane or someone who did qt5 example project for qtcreator... my memory is bad with names though |
| 11:02.06 | djszapi | ajalkane was mentioning that previously, he has already read something like that. |
| 11:02.25 | djszapi | now I recall that. |
| 11:03.07 | djszapi | I believe, most people use QtCreator unfortunately, so without a tight integration, it may be suboptimal to just have the qt5 packages themselves. |
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| 11:15.19 | djszapi | jonni: do you have a link at hand by any chance? |
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| 11:45.40 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: do u use qtcreator? |
| 11:45.45 | ZogG_laptop | what is the latest version? |
| 11:46.06 | djszapi | no, I do not. |
| 11:46.09 | ZogG_laptop | 2.5.2 |
| 11:46.11 | ZogG_laptop | hmm |
| 11:49.16 | ZogG_laptop | why the f than update manager says there is nothing to update :( |
| 11:51.19 | djszapi | jonni: need to leave the noise here, but feel free to send me the link in private, if you find that. |
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| 13:01.32 | jpnurmi | SignOn::AuthService::queryIdentities() throws an error: "Client has insuficient permissions to access the service.Method:queryIdentities" |
| 13:01.54 | jpnurmi | i've tried requesting "TrackerReadAccess" via aegis manifest: https://gist.github.com/3609180 |
| 13:02.15 | ZogG_laptop | jpnurmi: i think it's not realted |
| 13:02.30 | ZogG_laptop | related |
| 13:02.41 | jpnurmi | any tips? |
| 13:02.48 | ZogG_laptop | what are u trying to write? |
| 13:04.46 | jpnurmi | i'm trying to get some account credentials... i've been playing around with both, libaccounts-qt and libsignon-qt |
| 13:04.54 | jpnurmi | not much success so far :) |
| 13:06.20 | jpnurmi | Accounts::Manager lists all sharing services and providers fine, but no accounts at all. then i started messing with SignOn::AuthService as it also provides some identities |
| 13:07.09 | ZogG_laptop | jpnurmi: and u try to get credentials for what accounts? not yours? if so u can't get i think that's the whole point of it |
| 13:08.54 | jpnurmi | ZogG_laptop: right, makes sense... i wanted to get the evernote credentials to avoid requiring the user to register two evernote accounts on the system |
| 13:09.39 | ZogG_laptop | jpnurmi: i didn't succeed to use accounts at all |
| 13:09.44 | ZogG_laptop | with oauth2 |
| 13:09.51 | ZogG_laptop | it creates account |
| 13:10.03 | ZogG_laptop | but i have no idea how to use it to get the token |
| 13:36.23 | heymaster | where to store data what after app remove data will be removed? |
| 13:36.52 | ZogG_laptop | i think you should keep it on ~/.app |
| 13:37.00 | ZogG_laptop | but not sure how to remove it after |
| 13:37.03 | heymaster | I'm using QString known_host_dir = QDesktopServices::storageLocation(QDesktopServices::DataLocation) |
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| 13:41.56 | ZogG_laptop | no idea |
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| 13:41.59 | ZogG_laptop | i'm noob :P |
| 13:42.10 | ZogG_laptop | niwakame|away: but you are still around, aren't you? |
| 13:42.10 | heymaster | i'm too :) |
| 13:42.22 | ZogG_laptop | i think i'm more noob than you :P |
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| 14:55.00 | kevin_b | hello |
| 14:55.14 | kevin_b | any resource on how to list media url tracked on the phone? |
| 14:55.33 | kevin_b | on the the c/c++ side |
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| 15:00.14 | djszapi | mf2hd: hi, you were looking for an owncloud sync service, right? |
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| 15:04.24 | mf2hd | djszapi: yeah, it would be nice |
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| 15:07.01 | djszapi | mf2hd: I have just put one into the community repository. |
| 15:10.54 | mf2hd | oh, nice! |
| 15:11.16 | mf2hd | going to install it later today for sure =) |
| 15:11.58 | djszapi | cheers =) |
| 15:13.03 | mf2hd | at last i can get proper sync to n9 |
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| 15:13.13 | mf2hd | with encryption and nice webui =) |
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| 15:13.43 | mf2hd | at least once in a lifetime it payed of to ask something in irc :D |
| 15:17.19 | valdur55 | what package? |
| 15:18.23 | khertan | there is KhtNotes also which use ownCloud to sync his notes :) |
| 15:21.57 | djszapi | we have soon 700 packages in the community repository, yay |
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| 15:22.03 | djszapi | I mean successfully built. |
| 15:26.04 | djszapi | how many packages were available in maemo extra back then? |
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| 15:30.22 | djszapi | merlin1991: do you know that? ^ |
| 15:32.10 | jpnurmi | hmm, the accounts i create with Accounts::Manager are accessible to any other app? |
| 15:33.00 | jpnurmi | i made some test accounts and was a bit surprised to see them in accounts-qml-example |
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| 15:44.30 | jpnurmi | mardy: ping? |
| 15:45.24 | djszapi | jpnurmi: are you going to be part of the Nokia to Digia transition? |
| 15:45.50 | jpnurmi | djszapi: yes |
| 15:47.57 | mardy | jpnurmi: pong |
| 15:48.44 | mardy | jpnurmi: yes, the accounts DB is shared (in ~/.accounts/accounts.db, IIRC) |
| 15:49.10 | jpnurmi | mardy: is there any way to create private accounts? |
| 15:52.02 | mardy | jpnurmi: I'm not sure if the libaccounts in Harmattan supports it, but at least in Ubuntu you can specify the DB location with an environemnt variable |
| 15:52.44 | mardy | jpnurmi: but why do you need a private one? what kind of account is it? |
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| 15:54.59 | jpnurmi | mardy: i thought about using accounts-qt for storing evernote credentials |
| 16:02.24 | jpnurmi | i'm confused... there's an evernote account on my system, yet i cannot access it in my app. if i create my own account, anyone else can access it |
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| 16:05.07 | jpnurmi | storing the password in cleartext and readable by anyone is not acceptable.. even the evernote api license agreement mentions that |
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| 16:16.25 | valdur55 | Omg. i can't install quake2. Issues with ~/.quake dir premissions |
| 16:16.48 | valdur55 | chown: /home/user/.quake2/baseq2/config.cfg: Operation not permitted |
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| 17:45.32 | jonni | just got my Nexus7 from post... Now I'm looking if I should patch wpa_supplicant on android side, or to get hostapd working on harmattan.... |
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| 17:51.05 | sneakyc4 | hello |
| 17:51.30 | sneakyc4 | when building Qt3D deb package I got dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /lib/libstdc++.so.6 (used by debian/libqt4-3d/usr/lib/qt4/imports/Qt3D/libqthreedqmlplugin.so) |
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| 17:59.55 | djszapi | jonni: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85028 |
| 18:00.10 | djszapi | The harmattan target does not seem to support Qt5 :( |
| 18:00.18 | djszapi | the harmattan plugin would need some modification, I guess. |
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| 18:21.49 | D_Cent | hi, i've got a question about aegis ... some people said they were not able to reboot their N9s because of "your device is malfunctioning" messages after uninstalling wazapp - can this be true? i'm actually aware of rebooting my phone now because i don't want to flash |
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| 18:27.58 | Sfiet_Konstantin | D_Cent: I have never seen this |
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| 18:32.10 | D_Cent | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok thanks, i will give it a try then |
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| 18:55.39 | djszapi | anybody willing to contribute to the community repository? |
| 18:55.52 | djszapi | the task is simple: going through stable and testing |
| 18:56.02 | djszapi | remove the entries from testing that are in stable. |
| 18:56.09 | djszapi | and submit the ones which are not, from testing to stable. |
| 18:56.21 | djszapi | I can give access rights for the task, but I do not have time to do this myself. |
| 18:56.26 | djszapi | probably 30-40 minutes job. |
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| 19:28.44 | djszapi_ | if anybody is willing to contribute to the qtquick2 components for harmattan: https://qt.gitorious.org/+harmattan/qt-components/harmattan-qt-components |
| 19:29.41 | djszapi_ | valdur55: you do not know how to use aegis, do you |
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| 20:11.54 | djszapi_ | jonni: ping |
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| 20:15.32 | pa | is there some way to assign a property with a context property? example : in the main i do rootContext()->setContextPropert("myCoolClass", &myCoolClass); |
| 20:16.20 | pa | in qml i would like to be able to do if(something) { obj = myCoolClass } else {obj= anotherObject } |
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| 20:25.23 | ZogG_laptop | pa, u can, as well js can help :P but i think u can without js |
| 20:25.46 | ZogG_laptop | oh |
| 20:26.04 | ZogG_laptop | pa, the better way is to make to functions, one for X and other for Y |
| 20:26.12 | djszapi_ | has just fixed one issue in the harmattan components for qt5 |
| 20:26.21 | djszapi_ | -1 blocker towards the world domination |
| 20:26.42 | ZogG_laptop | or for matter you can just pass var in function and if 1 than do that and return x if 2 than do this and return Y |
| 20:27.46 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi, lol |
| 20:31.06 | pa | ZogG_laptop, ah thanks :) well in my case the object to use can come from two different sources, so that's why i wanted to do that |
| 20:31.25 | ZogG_laptop | pa, make void function |
| 20:31.41 | ZogG_laptop | pointer to function even |
| 20:31.46 | ZogG_laptop | i meant void* |
| 20:32.01 | pa | but can i use it in qml? |
| 20:32.04 | pa | that would be perfect |
| 20:32.11 | ZogG_laptop | you do it in Qt side |
| 20:32.33 | ZogG_laptop | and u pass parameter to Qt from qml with var |
| 20:32.43 | ZogG_laptop | and depending on that var you choice |
| 20:32.49 | ZogG_laptop | i think something like that |
| 20:33.03 | ZogG_laptop | but i'm noob so maybe there are better solutions :P |
| 20:33.18 | pa | well im noober probably :) |
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| 20:35.19 | ZogG_laptop | pa, don't think saw |
| 20:35.40 | ZogG_laptop | for example i know of void* functions but never used those :P |
| 20:38.42 | pa | you mean function pointers? well they are easy, once you get around the weird syntax c++ requires for them : ) |
| 20:40.04 | ZogG_laptop | pa, i met them at C :) |
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| 21:12.41 | djszapi_ | has fixed another issue about porting the qt components to qt5 |
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| 21:20.15 | djszapi_ | has fixed yet another issue |
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| 21:57.06 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi, ping |
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