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| 01:38.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | "don't think saw" chainsaw is just fine |
| 01:40.10 | DocScrutinizer05 | zoyou love saws? |
| 01:40.42 | DocScrutinizer05 | meh, offline |
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| 03:39.50 | Dante_J | greets the room |
| 03:42.43 | djszapi_ | hi |
| 03:55.08 | djszapi_ | has fixed another qt5 qtquick2 harmattan component issue |
| 04:16.12 | djszapi_ | another porting task is done. |
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| 04:57.15 | djszapi_ | jpnurmi: ping |
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| 05:48.07 | Dante_J | apologies for the lag. Just noticed that there does appear to be awake people in this channel. |
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| 06:10.54 | jpnurmi | djszapi_: pong? |
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| 06:17.16 | djszapi_ | jpnurmi: are you in charge of the qt components in any sense? |
| 06:17.22 | Dante_J | anyone wishing to provide a suggestion re: resetting a N9 security code. I have forgotten what the 'generic' passcode I used and was wondering if there was a way from the command line I could do a passwd on the N9 security passcode |
| 06:17.43 | Dante_J | I've read this, for what it's worth: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=80154 |
| 06:18.52 | jonni | Dante_J: by security code you mean root password or lock code? |
| 06:19.37 | jonni | Dante_J: if you mean lock code, the only documented way to reset it is doing full reflash with --erase-user-data=secure |
| 06:19.41 | Dante_J | not root. i know what my command line root password is. |
| 06:19.58 | Dante_J | :( sniff |
| 06:20.02 | Dante_J | I'd prefer not to re-flash, as getting NaviFirmEx to work under wine is a pain |
| 06:20.24 | Dante_J | I'm yet to get NaviFirmEx to actually run |
| 06:20.31 | Dante_J | major pain |
| 06:20.54 | jonni | Dante_J: git://gist.github.com/1636192.git you can use that in linux instead |
| 06:20.56 | Dante_J | Re-Flashing the N900 was easier. Less hoops to jump through. |
| 06:21.06 | Dante_J | ok? |
| 06:21.15 | jonni | Dante_J: thats perl based firmware downloader. |
| 06:21.44 | jpnurmi | djszapi_: i've been involved in the past |
| 06:22.39 | jpnurmi | djszapi_: but i don't know about being in "charge"... i thought nobody has really worked on them for a good while |
| 06:23.13 | djszapi_ | jpnurmi: I have begun that yesterday |
| 06:23.21 | djszapi_ | because we have the beta 1 stack in place |
| 06:23.25 | Dante_J | thanks jonni. |
| 06:23.33 | djszapi_ | so if the components project is ported, all nice :) |
| 06:24.28 | Dante_J | I don't suppose the good person who wrote this is lurking in this channel? http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1172316&postcount=1 |
| 06:24.51 | Dante_J | ( itsnotabigtruck ) |
| 06:25.07 | Dante_J | ping itsnotabigtruck? |
| 06:26.11 | jpnurmi | djszapi_: i think torarne was the last one to do something in that area. i mean, he was playing around with a qt5 port of the components |
| 06:26.32 | djszapi_ | jpnurmi: I am soon ready |
| 06:27.00 | jpnurmi | djszapi_: there's a qtquick2 branch |
| 06:29.21 | djszapi_ | jpnurmi: that is what I have been working on. |
| 06:29.28 | djszapi_ | https://qt.gitorious.org/+harmattan/qt-components/harmattan-qt-components |
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| 07:07.13 | Dante_J | jonni, thanks again. That perl script seems to be working fine. Wish I found it previously. Cheers |
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| 08:02.17 | ZogG_laptop | piggz, gonna try yoour game soon, use screenshotmee for screenshots. even better u can record video on n9 with gstream |
| 08:03.00 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: thx .... kojacker just sent me a player 2 request, but my battery is flat! |
| 08:03.21 | ZogG_laptop | player 2 request? |
| 08:04.08 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: it has online play |
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| 08:06.40 | ZogG_laptop | piggz, it uses server? or only local multiplayer? i mean in local network |
| 08:07.01 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: a server (i wrote myself in node.js) |
| 08:12.12 | piggz | nice, found a bug, but my first real online game (those not played against wife) has started |
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| 08:17.08 | ZogG_laptop | piggz, i'll try it today tomorrow :P |
| 08:18.03 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: thx, 0.0.3 has just been uploaded, see tmo announcement, i will try for a 0.0.4 later |
| 08:22.34 | piggz | yay, i won! |
| 08:30.40 | djszapi_ | jonni: would you mind trying to update your package database and install qt5-component for a quick check? |
| 08:34.09 | pa | any way to format a timestamp as HHH:mm:ss ? QTime is able to format only HH:mm:ss |
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| 08:52.06 | beford | what is HHH ? |
| 08:54.57 | deram_ | I'd guess its hours as a long number, not wrapped to days |
| 08:55.45 | beford | ah right |
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| 09:24.01 | pa | is there a qml event for a page "when it becomes visible"? or, alternatively "when it's being pushed on the stack"? |
| 09:24.18 | pa | yes, thats what i meant with HHH |
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| 09:24.31 | pa | but i fear Qt has no such thing |
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| 09:39.25 | gri | pa: There is a "pageStatus" property |
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| 09:50.48 | djszapi | chem|st: do you know anything about the council meeting with x-fade friday afternoon? |
| 09:50.58 | chem|st | djszapi: nope |
| 09:50.59 | djszapi | I have just heard of this, and that it would be around 3 pm |
| 09:51.37 | chem|st | ~seen ivgalvez |
| 09:51.40 | infobot | ivgalvez is currently on #maemo-ssu (1h 29m 37s). Has said a total of 68 messages. Is idling for 22m 34s, last said: 'so I definitively do not understand it'. |
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| 09:52.22 | chem|st | djszapi: I'm no council, ask the council! mail them council@ ... |
| 09:52.35 | chem|st | or snail mail idk |
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| 09:56.12 | RST38h | moo, mgedmin |
| 09:56.25 | mgedmin | meow? |
| 09:59.37 | RST38h | mgedmin: So, still using N900? =) |
| 09:59.49 | mgedmin | no, actually I don't even know where it is |
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| 10:00.27 | RST38h | mgedmin: N9 then? Or Android? |
| 10:00.33 | mgedmin | ♥ N9 |
| 10:00.47 | RST38h | Aha |
| 10:02.59 | RST38h | did finally get a Samsung Note |
| 10:03.11 | RST38h | (/me) |
| 10:20.15 | Arkenoi | just ordered droid4 :-( |
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| 11:54.14 | Lava_Croft | i *almost* got a note, but thankgod i used it a bit before attempting to buy it |
| 11:56.09 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Samsung Note |
| 11:56.14 | Sfiet_Konstantin | or _Galaxy_ Note ? |
| 11:56.38 | Lava_Croft | Samsung Galaxy Note |
| 11:56.58 | Sfiet_Konstantin | what's wrong with the SGN ? |
| 11:57.03 | Sfiet_Konstantin | the Galaxy Note |
| 11:57.06 | Lava_Croft | too big, too android, useless pen |
| 11:57.31 | Lava_Croft | im biased anyway, i got a galaxy nexus and sold it within a week to get my hands on a precious N9 |
| 11:57.39 | Sfiet_Konstantin | lol |
| 11:57.57 | Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I don't think that people on Harmattan can be fully unbiased, so I accept this opinion |
| 11:58.02 | Lava_Croft | but the Galaxy Note did disappoint me |
| 11:58.21 | Lava_Croft | im not a fan of Samsung's custom android sauce |
| 11:58.29 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but it is praised as being a very nice phone |
| 11:58.38 | Lava_Croft | so are a lot of other devices that i consider quite weak |
| 11:59.01 | Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe because you like multitasking ? |
| 11:59.05 | Lava_Croft | its certainly more versatile than a standard galaxy s2 or something |
| 11:59.25 | Lava_Croft | well, my first 'smartphone', after a decade of Nokia 5510, was a N900 |
| 11:59.28 | Lava_Croft | and that ruined everything |
| 11:59.35 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I see |
| 11:59.49 | Sfiet_Konstantin | well, not everything |
| 11:59.56 | Sfiet_Konstantin | you shouldn't |
| 12:00.02 | Lava_Croft | everything for the competitors :) |
| 12:00.08 | Sfiet_Konstantin | :D |
| 12:00.15 | Sfiet_Konstantin | for me it is a different case |
| 12:00.25 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I got an Samsung Omnia, followed closely by the E71 |
| 12:00.29 | Lava_Croft | my wife has is an iphone user since day1, so i was well known with that |
| 12:00.32 | Lava_Croft | note just felt sluggish |
| 12:00.39 | Lava_Croft | has is an* good english |
| 12:01.01 | Lava_Croft | but i reckon that if you are used to more standard smartphone, the note is indeed quite versatile |
| 12:01.05 | Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah |
| 12:01.12 | Lava_Croft | and it stands out in a crowd, especially when you have to get all the broken glass from your trouserpockets |
| 12:01.23 | Lava_Croft | since its way too big |
| 12:01.27 | Sfiet_Konstantin | for me, I feel like keyboard smartphones are missed |
| 12:01.30 | Lava_Croft | yes |
| 12:01.41 | Lava_Croft | thats basically all i want from Jolla |
| 12:01.43 | Lava_Croft | a J900 |
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| 12:01.47 | Sfiet_Konstantin | not me |
| 12:01.52 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I want a Jolla pre |
| 12:01.57 | Lava_Croft | the Pre was a joke |
| 12:01.57 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but with better spec |
| 12:02.05 | Lava_Croft | lovely OS, but that device, meh |
| 12:02.06 | Sfiet_Konstantin | 4'' screen as a min |
| 12:02.15 | Lava_Croft | sharp edges, poo keyboard |
| 12:02.15 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but protrait keyboard |
| 12:02.26 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I mean, give me my E71 keyboard back |
| 12:02.29 | Lava_Croft | i desire landscape keyb, but software portrait keyb is fine by me |
| 12:02.33 | Sfiet_Konstantin | or better, the one of the E63 |
| 12:02.35 | Lava_Croft | as long as its a HW landscape keyb |
| 12:02.45 | Sfiet_Konstantin | that is the best that were ever made in the mobile world |
| 12:02.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I hate landscape keyboard, it is hard to type on it |
| 12:03.10 | Lava_Croft | i have the exact opposite experience |
| 12:03.11 | Sfiet_Konstantin | you should at least try portrait 1 month for testing |
| 12:03.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | for texting |
| 12:03.16 | Sfiet_Konstantin | I mean |
| 12:03.21 | Lava_Croft | i had a Pre for 2 months |
| 12:03.24 | Lava_Croft | testing it out |
| 12:03.26 | Sfiet_Konstantin | a pre doesn't count |
| 12:03.33 | Sfiet_Konstantin | get an E63 for testing |
| 12:03.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | what a lovely keyboard phone |
| 12:03.48 | Sfiet_Konstantin | better than any blackberry keyboard |
| 12:04.00 | Lava_Croft | oh, a nokiaberry |
| 12:04.03 | Lava_Croft | no thanks! :) |
| 12:04.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | oh BTW, I'm very selective on keyboards: E63, Lenovo X series :D |
| 12:04.15 | Lava_Croft | i like the wider landscape keyboards:) |
| 12:04.18 | Lava_Croft | big hands too |
| 12:04.32 | Sfiet_Konstantin | so do I but I don't know, I compared the E71 and N950 |
| 12:04.34 | Lava_Croft | i always find portrait keyboards too small |
| 12:04.51 | Sfiet_Konstantin | ok then |
| 12:05.04 | Lava_Croft | but i think we can agree on a hardware keyboard :) |
| 12:05.08 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but I hate landscape mode, I feel like the space is not used wisely on landscape |
| 12:05.11 | Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah indeed |
| 12:05.21 | Lava_Croft | oh, well, landscape mode is the normal mode your eyes have too |
| 12:05.22 | Sfiet_Konstantin | texting in landscape is less comfortable |
| 12:05.24 | jussi | I want a semi transparent landscape keyboard... |
| 12:05.34 | Lava_Croft | or else you |
| 12:05.36 | Lava_Croft | end up typing like |
| 12:05.37 | Lava_Croft | this |
| 12:05.38 | Sfiet_Konstantin | jussi: not a bad idea |
| 12:05.42 | Lava_Croft | since the screen is in portrait mode |
| 12:05.46 | Sfiet_Konstantin | not true |
| 12:05.56 | Lava_Croft | Jolla should come up with some genius fragile rotating HW keyboard |
| 12:05.59 | Lava_Croft | to please all the nerds |
| 12:06.05 | Lava_Croft | :) |
| 12:06.09 | jussi | lol |
| 12:06.24 | jussi | I love the e7/n950 hinge setup... |
| 12:06.34 | Lava_Croft | they look awfully fragile to me:D |
| 12:07.20 | jussi | Lava_Croft: look, but arent - they are an amazing peice of design |
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| 12:07.44 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Lava_Croft: you mean something like http://www.valuesphere.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/siemens-sk65-open.jpg |
| 12:07.50 | jussi | the amount of times ive dropped the n950... open... and the hinge is still perfect |
| 12:08.09 | jussi | Sfiet_Konstantin: oh dear... |
| 12:08.17 | Sfiet_Konstantin | jussi: the N950 is undestructible |
| 12:08.19 | Lava_Croft | Sfiet_Konstantin: haha |
| 12:08.21 | Sfiet_Konstantin | it can heal itself |
| 12:08.28 | Lava_Croft | Sfiet_Konstantin: except the n950 screen |
| 12:08.32 | jussi | it is the TERMINATOR! |
| 12:08.32 | Sfiet_Konstantin | how can you break a selfhealing phone |
| 12:08.38 | Sfiet_Konstantin | even the N950 screen |
| 12:08.41 | Sfiet_Konstantin | i had dead pixels |
| 12:08.46 | Sfiet_Konstantin | that are now living again :S |
| 12:08.47 | gri | dropped mine once and the dead pixels began to spread :/ |
| 12:08.48 | Lava_Croft | heh |
| 12:08.58 | Sfiet_Konstantin | it depends on the drop :( |
| 12:09.11 | Sfiet_Konstantin | some reported that it healed, some not :( |
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| 12:33.22 | chem|st | alterego: I'll be on vacation next week, if you got anything you want be tested yet /query or email it :) |
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| 12:43.51 | alterego | chem|st: I'm soooo busy right now :) |
| 12:45.17 | chem|st | alterego: :) |
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| 12:58.57 | djszapiN9 | jonni, have you tried the installation? |
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| 15:05.57 | djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan -> we have reached the 700 packages in the community repository yay :) |
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| 15:17.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | djszapi: I might need help for packaging widgets 1.0 soon |
| 15:18.09 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and push it to apps.formeego |
| 15:18.19 | Sfiet_Konstantin | may I ask for some help this week ? |
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| 15:26.01 | djszapi | Sfiet_Konstantin: I do not know much about apps.formeego unfortunately. |
| 15:26.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | do you know about OBS ? |
| 15:27.03 | Sfiet_Konstantin | the last time i tried to package something on OBS i utterly failed :( |
| 15:28.30 | djszapi | yes |
| 15:34.58 | kevin_b | hello guys |
| 15:35.03 | kevin_b | how to reboot dui? |
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| 16:32.37 | teleshoes | anyone know where the background of the standby screen lives? {not the lowpower screen; this one has rain by default on mine} |
| 16:34.32 | teleshoes | mine changed while i was mucking about, trying to make /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/backgrounds/meegotouch-desktop-bg.jpg work with a symlink |
| 16:36.31 | teleshoes | i cant find a copy of the image thats showing up there; find -mmin says that no files but the desktop-bg changed in the last 20 hours |
| 16:36.44 | teleshoes | in /usr/share, that is |
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| 16:44.52 | djszapi | teleshoes: you mean lock screen |
| 16:44.55 | teleshoes | yes |
| 16:45.16 | teleshoes | the screen that is displayed literally only when unplugging my headphones |
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| 16:45.35 | teleshoes | not the lowpower lock screen |
| 16:45.52 | djszapi | there is no low power lock screen |
| 16:45.59 | djszapi | there is a lock screen and a standby screen |
| 16:46.06 | teleshoes | thanks! |
| 16:46.12 | teleshoes | i now have good names for the screens |
| 16:46.32 | teleshoes | standby is the this-is-an-amoled-screen-so-lets-save-power |
| 16:46.51 | teleshoes | and lock screen is this-screen-isnt-really-useful-unless-you-have-an-n950 |
| 16:47.12 | djszapi | it is useful |
| 16:47.17 | teleshoes | mm? |
| 16:47.20 | djszapi | there are application to change the content etc |
| 16:47.27 | djszapi | applications* |
| 16:47.41 | teleshoes | i have a nice text-only heads up on my standby screen |
| 16:48.11 | teleshoes | with notifications and my song titles and my battery current and remaining % etc |
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| 16:51.58 | teleshoes | anywho, do you happen to know how to change the lock screen bg |
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| 16:55.25 | djszapi | settings/wallpaper |
| 16:55.34 | teleshoes | nono, programmatically |
| 16:56.12 | djszapi | do you have any other information you have not mentioned yet? |
| 16:57.07 | teleshoes | probably, sorry, lets see |
| 16:57.24 | teleshoes | what im trying to figure out |
| 16:57.28 | teleshoes | is where the information is kept |
| 16:57.32 | teleshoes | to change it programmatically |
| 16:57.38 | teleshoes | e.g.: the desktop bg |
| 16:57.48 | teleshoes | is at /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/backgrounds/meegotouch-desktop-bg.jpg |
| 16:57.59 | teleshoes | you change that by replacing that file, and initctl restart xsession/mthome |
| 16:58.25 | teleshoes | im looking to do something similar |
| 16:58.45 | teleshoes | with the lock screen's background, the thing that is called Wallpaper in Settings |
| 17:00.15 | teleshoes | my set-desktop-bg.sh: {cp $1 /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/backgrounds/meegotouch-desktop-bg.jpg; initctl restart xsession/mthemedaemon; initctl restart xsession/mthemedaemon} |
| 17:01.09 | teleshoes | rather, set-desktop-bg.sh: {cp $1 /usr/share/themes/blanco/meegotouch/images/backgrounds/meegotouch-desktop-bg.jpg; initctl restart xsession/mthemedaemon; initctl restart xsession/mthome} |
| 17:02.00 | teleshoes | so the only copy of the file ive found is at ~/.wallpapers |
| 17:02.15 | djszapi | gconftool-2 --get /desktop/meego/background/portrait/picture_filename - ~/.wallpapers/Jeremy_Dower.jpg -> this is how you can get it |
| 17:02.20 | teleshoes | awesome thanks |
| 17:02.22 | teleshoes | gconf |
| 17:02.42 | teleshoes | i had grepped it for wallpaper |
| 17:02.56 | djszapi | and of course it has a --set option as well |
| 17:03.11 | teleshoes | yep, i know how to use gconftool |
| 17:03.14 | teleshoes | thanks a ton |
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| 17:16.02 | beford | sup |
| 17:17.48 | ZogG_laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:18.24 | beford | not bad |
| 17:18.30 | beford | you? |
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| 17:18.49 | beford | ZogG_laptop: do you want to check what is pomodoro? :P |
| 17:19.11 | djszapi | beford: could you please check the qt5-components installation? |
| 17:19.28 | beford | djszapi: sure |
| 17:19.36 | beford | djszapi: steps? pr1.3 required? |
| 17:19.37 | djszapi | beford: preferrably on the device |
| 17:19.45 | ZogG_laptop | beford: why not |
| 17:19.50 | djszapi | so you can check the qml components gallery example. |
| 17:20.09 | djszapi | beford: should be working with previous firmwares as well. |
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| 17:20.23 | djszapi | just make sure you have the community repository added. |
| 17:20.54 | beford | ok let me add it to the N950 with PR1.2 |
| 17:21.03 | beford | ZogG_laptop: hold on let me upload it |
| 17:21.13 | ZogG_laptop | beford: ok |
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| 17:21.42 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: sivang say hello |
| 17:21.56 | djszapi | :) |
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| 17:22.24 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: dont chat from iphone :P |
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| 17:51.14 | beford | http://mynokiablog.com/2012/09/04/leaked-prototype-nokia-lauta-rm-742-cancelled-immediate-n9-successor/ |
| 17:56.36 | djszapi | beford: have you managed the qt5-components package? |
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| 17:57.08 | beford | no |
| 17:57.09 | beford | :P |
| 17:57.20 | ZogG_N9 | MohammadAG, ping |
| 17:57.21 | beford | do you know howto add the harmattan repo? |
| 17:57.27 | beford | I will add it and test |
| 17:57.57 | djszapi | beford: deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free |
| 17:58.02 | ZogG_N9 | beford, sorry i disappered |
| 17:58.21 | beford | hey ZogG_N9, its ok |
| 17:58.57 | ZogG_N9 | we had qt meeting |
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| 18:00.40 | beford | installing now djszapi |
| 18:01.38 | djszapi | alright |
| 18:04.29 | beford | djszapi: I dont see any new icons on the homescreen |
| 18:04.34 | beford | djszapi: whats the package name for the gallery? |
| 18:04.48 | djszapi | you need to run that from console. |
| 18:05.41 | beford | ah ok /opt/qt5 ? |
| 18:05.53 | djszapi | yeah |
| 18:07.10 | beford | and where is the gallery? :P |
| 18:07.14 | beford | I dont see it in bin |
| 18:07.23 | djszapi | dpkg -L qt5-components |
| 18:07.56 | djszapi | interesting only imports.. |
| 18:08.19 | djszapi | the examples are not installed |
| 18:08.21 | djszapi | that is weird. |
| 18:08.39 | beford | yea |
| 18:08.59 | djszapi | there should even be demos there. |
| 18:09.02 | djszapi | I will double check the packaging. |
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| 18:09.50 | djszapi | it is most likely a qmake issue |
| 18:11.24 | djszapi | Examples ......................... yes |
| 18:11.28 | djszapi | should be alright'osh |
| 18:11.31 | djszapi | alright'ish |
| 18:29.19 | ieatlint | beford: hah, yeah, just saw that post about the prototype too... depressing |
| 18:29.38 | ieatlint | i'm more depressed about the fact that i'm getting pushed more and more toward android now |
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| 18:36.50 | beford | ieatlint: yea :/ too bad it was eloped, it looks nice |
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| 18:39.47 | djszapi | ieatlint: beford do not cry :) |
| 18:40.05 | beford | ;_; |
| 18:40.18 | beford | djszapi should get me one of those |
| 18:40.32 | clau | it seems n9 losses wireless connection whenever the dhcp lease expires |
| 18:40.44 | clau | is there anything I can do to fix this? |
| 18:43.04 | djszapi | I wonder if anybody can commit a change for me? |
| 18:43.18 | ieatlint | djszapi: i don't specifically miss that pictures device... i just want an updated one now |
| 18:43.53 | djszapi | or it is also good if someone tells me how to push to gitorious over http(s) |
| 18:43.55 | ieatlint | the n9 has been out for a year, and it was already a year-old hardware then |
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| 18:46.02 | ieatlint | so am on two year old hardware, missing app support from major companies, and no hope of the platform continuing |
| 18:46.12 | djszapi | djszapi: http://paste.kde.org/~lpapp/544058/ |
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| 18:49.40 | djszapiN9 | ieatlint, n9 is a good qt5 testing platform for me. |
| 18:50.23 | djszapiN9 | I prefer phones over desktop or tablets. |
| 18:50.31 | ieatlint | sure.. i'm just depressed at the inevitable android switch in my immediate future |
| 18:50.43 | ieatlint | doesn't mean i'm getting rid of the meego devices i have |
| 18:50.45 | djszapiN9 | I do not see any alternatives for qt5 experiments as of now. |
| 18:51.02 | djszapiN9 | qt android? |
| 18:51.20 | djszapiN9 | java, native, but not qt? |
| 18:51.45 | djszapiN9 | android ain't that bad. |
| 18:52.35 | clau | anyone knows if it's safe to modify the scripts under /etc/udhcpc ? |
| 18:53.07 | sneakyc4 | hello guys |
| 18:53.08 | djszapiN9 | clau, check if it is refhashed. |
| 18:53.12 | sneakyc4 | how to get rid of : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /lib/libstdc++.so.6 (used by debian/libqt4-3d/usr/lib/qt4/imports/Qt3D/libqthreedqmlplugin.so) |
| 18:53.25 | djszapiN9 | sneakyc4, reinstall |
| 18:53.48 | sneakyc4 | i made a custom debian/shlibs.local but it mess the package afterward |
| 18:54.04 | sneakyc4 | djszapiN9 : reinstall what? scratchbox ? |
| 18:54.24 | djszapiN9 | no |
| 18:54.46 | djszapiN9 | the package having the dependency information |
| 18:55.01 | djszapiN9 | dpkg -S will tell you which one |
| 18:55.11 | sneakyc4 | ok let's make install Qt3D if it 's not been done |
| 18:55.24 | djszapiN9 | no |
| 18:55.38 | djszapiN9 | you should not touch qt3d |
| 18:58.14 | sneakyc4 | mmm, shlibs fails to find libstdc++ O_o! |
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| 18:58.32 | sneakyc4 | it misses this dependency info right |
| 18:59.25 | sneakyc4 | and it only misses info for the qml plugin of Qt3d, the lib is fine |
| 19:00.35 | djszapiN9 | no |
| 19:00.49 | djszapi | you are not quite getting that error message ;) |
| 19:00.56 | sneakyc4 | :D |
| 19:00.57 | sneakyc4 | ok |
| 19:01.13 | djszapi | dpkg -S /lib/libstdc++.so.6 |
| 19:01.18 | djszapi | you need to reinstall this. |
| 19:03.07 | sneakyc4 | where the *** should I get libstdc++ it is a standard package |
| 19:03.42 | sneakyc4 | already distributed with platform sdk isn't it |
| 19:03.57 | sneakyc4 | i can find it |
| 19:04.11 | sneakyc4 | so why cannot shlibs |
| 19:11.33 | sneakyc4 | ho or maybe i miss the dbg one |
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| 19:14.51 | djszapi | sneakyc4: interesting that you do not follow the suggestions. |
| 19:16.39 | sneakyc4 | following |
| 19:16.45 | sneakyc4 | just slow connection |
| 19:17.33 | sneakyc4 | praying |
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| 19:19.47 | sneakyc4 | so i re installed libstdc++-dev |
| 19:19.56 | sneakyc4 | still same problem |
| 19:20.08 | djszapi_ | paste the output of the installation |
| 19:21.40 | sneakyc4 | http://paste.kde.org/544064/ |
| 19:23.11 | djszapi_ | you have not used fakeroot |
| 19:23.34 | sneakyc4 | for install libstdc++ ? |
| 19:23.42 | sneakyc4 | or for packaing my app? |
| 19:24.03 | sneakyc4 | replace/packaging/packaing |
| 19:26.28 | M4rtinK | Ovi is funny |
| 19:27.02 | M4rtinK | looks like there is no way to synchronize package description & package update |
| 19:28.04 | M4rtinK | so if you submit a both at the same time, the description will usually published way before the package |
| 19:28.52 | M4rtinK | the other possibility is to wait for the package to be published and then submit the updated description - which will result in an outdated description for some time |
| 19:29.00 | sneakyc4 | djszapi : when should I use fakeroot? when install packages? |
| 19:29.08 | M4rtinK | and in related news Apps for MeeGo is still down |
| 19:29.16 | sneakyc4 | confused by scratchbox |
| 19:30.40 | sneakyc4 | I think libstdc++ should not be in debian/control, it s a basic package |
| 19:31.11 | sneakyc4 | which can not be removed usually the system heavily rely on |
| 19:31.17 | sneakyc4 | relies |
| 19:31.57 | djszapi_ | M4rtinK: yeah, it is a long-time issue |
| 19:32.15 | M4rtinK | djszapi: the Ovi one ? |
| 19:32.30 | djszapi_ | description ships before the content. |
| 19:34.01 | M4rtinK | btw, I'm quite surprised they managed to check Chinese, Czech & French at once that quickly :) |
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| 20:28.37 | sneakyc4 | rhaaa f**** libstdc++ dependency |
| 20:28.43 | sneakyc4 | :D |
| 20:29.08 | djszapi_ | http://lpapp.blogspot.ie/2012/09/qtquick-2-is-coming-to-harmattan.html |
| 20:29.39 | sneakyc4 | or f*** qt3d plugin I should say, coz dh_shlibdeps does not complain about liQt3D |
| 20:31.03 | sneakyc4 | f*** great news :) |
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| 20:38.24 | sneakyc4 | work around the problem |
| 20:39.04 | sneakyc4 | djszapi_:why using fakeroot for installing? |
| 20:39.30 | djszapi_ | because the install touches system files? |
| 20:39.36 | djszapi_ | which the user does not have access? |
| 20:39.44 | djszapi_ | to* |
| 20:40.10 | sneakyc4 | why should install libstdc++ provided by nokia break anything? |
| 20:40.46 | djszapi_ | because you messed with your system |
| 20:40.57 | sneakyc4 | ... |
| 20:41.17 | sneakyc4 | dunno what you talks about |
| 20:42.57 | sneakyc4 | apt-get and dpkg deals with guarding the system from abnormal install/remove |
| 20:43.13 | sneakyc4 | as long as u don't force it why should it break |
| 20:44.13 | djszapi_ | I would suggest to learn the basics instead of lecturing about this. :) |
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| 20:44.45 | sneakyc4 | If I ask you , that's coz I wanna learn dude |
| 20:45.00 | sneakyc4 | May you teach me ;) |
| 20:45.52 | sneakyc4 | Asking 's a lecture then I shall be lecturing all day long |
| 20:46.43 | djszapi_ | well, I told you two hours ago what to do to fix the issue |
| 20:46.50 | djszapi_ | you have not still followed my suggestion. |
| 20:47.08 | djszapi_ | just asking why why :) |
| 20:47.18 | djszapi_ | you either learn these things, or trust us. |
| 20:47.32 | djszapi_ | I do not have time to explain those things now. |
| 20:48.05 | sneakyc4 | you told me re install aka dpkg -S /lib/libstdc++.so. |
| 20:48.43 | sneakyc4 | ho |
| 20:49.30 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: ping |
| 20:50.23 | djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: pong |
| 20:51.03 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: i'll ping u in jabber, ok? |
| 20:52.46 | sneakyc4 | djszapi : Thanks for your patience, but i doesnt solve the problem |
| 20:53.20 | sneakyc4 | removed libstdc++, fakeroot install, dpkg -S /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 |
| 20:53.44 | djszapi_ | removed LOLZ |
| 20:53.51 | djszapi_ | that is a very important system package... |
| 20:53.56 | sneakyc4 | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /lib/libstdc++.so.6 libqthreedqmlplugin.so |
| 20:53.58 | djszapi_ | you should have just reinstalled it... |
| 20:54.10 | sneakyc4 | that occurs only for plugins |
| 20:54.24 | djszapi_ | dpkg -S ${which libqthreedqmlplugin.so} |
| 20:54.30 | djszapi_ | or locate |
| 20:54.30 | djszapi_ | whatever |
| 20:54.35 | djszapi_ | please use your brain :D |
| 20:54.55 | sneakyc4 | you coz your 's always off I get it |
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| 20:55.39 | sneakyc4 | just re just useless |
| 20:55.54 | sneakyc4 | But thanks for the time |
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| 21:01.42 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Road from TLV to Jerusalem has 20-30km of one straight road |
| 21:02.27 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: u are fast |
| 21:02.49 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: now i have your naked pics i'll upload to facebook |
| 21:02.50 | ZogG_laptop | :P |
| 21:02.50 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: I actually got here an hour ago :p |
| 21:03.11 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: oh, i had long phone talk with GF, she got pissed as i didn't talk to her all day long |
| 21:03.23 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: it was nice meeting |
| 21:03.36 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: we need to think of n9 hack day and the plan for it |
| 21:03.50 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Kinda same, I didn't notice her WhatsApp messages and I replied to yours so last seen was after her message |
| 21:03.55 | ZogG_laptop | maybe small hacks/apps we can make together. but i think the plan should come first |
| 21:04.05 | ieatlint | ooh, naked pics of MohammadAG |
| 21:04.33 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: u have gf, and how is the "all the time with laptop" fights? |
| 21:04.47 | ZogG_laptop | ieatlint: i have few :P |
| 21:05.03 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: yeah |
| 21:05.11 | MohammadAG | No fights, I hack at night |
| 21:05.22 | MohammadAG | As in late night |
| 21:05.40 | ieatlint | hot |
| 21:05.44 | MohammadAG | 1/2-7 |
| 21:05.53 | MohammadAG | ieatlint: fap fap fap |
| 21:06.34 | MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Yeah, stuff like thp's hackathons would be appreciated |
| 21:06.45 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: u know actually at night is the most interesting time with gf :P |
| 21:07.02 | sneakyc4 | djszapi: u were right, my scratchbox was screwed maybe, coz of a uneeded standard lib in /lib/ |
| 21:07.21 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: yes, but we need plan as Asaf wouldn't come probably and as well i'm noob, so we need some real good task that we can stand |
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| 21:34.38 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: jabber? u ignoring me? |
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| 21:42.51 | ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: did ur laptop idled this time? :P |
| 21:44.50 | ZogG_laptop | AAAAND HE'S GONE! (c) |
| 23:00.03 | Sazpaimon_ | nokia lauta :( |
| 23:05.41 | Natunen | nokia lauta? |
| 23:06.19 | Sazpaimon_ | mynokiablog.com/2012/09/04/leaked-prototype-nokia-lauta-rm-742-cancelled-immediate-n9-successor/ |
| 23:08.32 | Natunen | best product axed .. |
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| 23:58.24 | Dante_J | Greetings all |
