| 00:00.53 | Dante_J | I'm looking for guidance as where to find emmc.bin for my N9 model. It's not showing in naviperl |
| 00:02.02 | Dante_J | I flashed the main image, and now it won't mount in Mass Storage mode, with host log showing that it has an invalid partition table |
| 00:02.42 | Dante_J | Some googling seemed to indicate that if I re-flashed and also flashed the emmc.bin that may help. Thoughts?? |
| 00:10.29 | njsf | try an EMMC from another model with same PR_LEGACY |
| 00:11.57 | njsf | In about product you will see on version (for PR 1.3) PR 1.3 (40.2012.21-3_PR_XXX) |
| 00:12.13 | njsf | Try finding another model where PR_xxx matches yours and use that EMMC |
| 00:13.13 | Dante_J | thank you njsf. I appreciate it. Will have a look. |
| 00:14.13 | Dante_J | njsf, does the re-flashing of emmc.bin sound like it will fix the partitation table to you? I was wondering if I may need to resort to gparted or fdisk? |
| 00:14.27 | njsf | That I don't know |
| 00:14.37 | Dante_J | :( |
| 00:14.44 | njsf | other people here are more knowledgable on that |
| 00:14.47 | Dante_J | ok |
| 00:14.54 | beford | it will restore it to default state |
| 00:15.06 | beford | so yea, try to flash both and it should boot |
| 00:15.23 | Dante_J | it boots fine - phone is running |
| 00:15.35 | beford | I mean, emmc should be usable :P |
| 00:15.45 | Dante_J | just won't mount on my laptop, so that I can copy backup files back |
| 00:15.58 | Dante_J | ok, thanks beford |
| 00:16.18 | beford | just so you know, if you had files on the emmc they will be lost once you flash |
| 00:18.44 | Dante_J | The reason for my first flash is that I had to do a --erase-user-data=secure as i forgot my dumb pass code. Tried about 40 versions of what I thought the passcode should be. Grrr |
| 00:19.36 | Dante_J | looks for a emmc.bin based on njsf advice |
| 00:19.42 | beford | ah, you used -erase-user-data without the emmc image? |
| 00:19.47 | Dante_J | yes |
| 00:19.59 | Dante_J | is that a problem? |
| 00:20.18 | beford | no but it explains why you cant mount it |
| 00:20.24 | Dante_J | how so? |
| 00:20.54 | beford | because it deleted it ? :P |
| 00:21.10 | Dante_J | I thought the partition table would be independent of user-data |
| 00:21.35 | Dante_J | user-data would be stored in a pre-configured partition and need not be modified. |
| 00:21.38 | Dante_J | shrugs |
| 00:22.03 | beford | the whole emmc is user data |
| 00:22.32 | Dante_J | Maybe I should read up on the #harmattan SDK or some such thing. My knowledge is wanting. |
| 00:22.43 | Dante_J | changes topic |
| 00:23.59 | Dante_J | Here is the magic question in my mind: Will #harmattan benefit from a CSSU like the N900 does? |
| 00:25.24 | Dante_J | Using Inception, might there be a way to make this possible? |
| 00:25.59 | beford | it could |
| 00:26.45 | beford | it's already possible to some extent, MohammadAG released an statusbar package with some added functionality that replaces Nokia one |
| 00:30.25 | arcean | and I'm running some modified/patched system packages: http://fpaste.org/g0ju/ |
| 00:55.16 | sneakyc4 | http://paste.kde.org/544220/ |
| 00:55.23 | sneakyc4 | lib/.libs/libvlc.so: undefined reference to `config_GetPszChoices' |
| 00:55.52 | sneakyc4 | wrong channel sry |
| 00:55.56 | pa | i have a component that is a delegate, and inside i have two labels. i am trying to set the visible: property of the two label so that if a parameter for that item is false, one is visible and the other not, and vice versa. so like visible: (label1visible)?true:false |
| 00:55.59 | pa | but it doesnt work |
| 00:56.16 | pa | i am afraid the expression is not being evaluated or something |
| 00:59.01 | beford | sup |
| 00:59.19 | beford | want to check my app pa? :p |
| 00:59.30 | pa | yep |
| 00:59.32 | pa | where is it? |
| 00:59.53 | pa | i think i got the bloody error.. uint instead of int.. |
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| 01:03.58 | pa | and what is it? :) |
| 01:04.22 | beford | its called pomodoro, the time management technique |
| 01:04.29 | beford | let me pm you the link |
| 01:04.50 | pa | aha.. i heared about that |
| 01:06.56 | pa | beford, cool, i will try it out tomorrow :) (now it's 3.00 Am here ) |
| 01:07.04 | pa | beford, do you use such technique? |
| 01:07.08 | beford | never |
| 01:07.09 | beford | xD |
| 01:07.09 | pa | do you think it's effective? |
| 01:07.23 | pa | lol i see :) |
| 01:07.28 | beford | some coworkers were talking about it |
| 01:07.33 | beford | and got apps for android/ios |
| 01:07.46 | beford | so I had to do it :P |
| 01:07.59 | pa | haha : ) |
| 01:08.05 | Dante_J | :) |
| 01:08.26 | pa | btw i havent reinstalled qstardict |
| 01:08.36 | pa | i will, before going to bed :) |
| 01:08.46 | beford | heh, did you try the one on TMO? |
| 01:09.04 | beford | it never passed QA .. but it worked ok for me even after reflash :/ |
| 01:09.52 | pa | hmm.. |
| 01:10.02 | pa | actually i think you are right |
| 01:10.11 | pa | i think i got the sources and compiled it |
| 01:10.19 | pa | but i see there is a non free version in the store.. |
| 01:10.22 | pa | strange |
| 01:11.10 | beford | that non free is mine too |
| 01:11.12 | beford | :P |
| 01:11.29 | beford | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=84629 |
| 01:11.37 | beford | but i uploaded a newer deb there |
| 01:13.27 | pa | but is it possible that the sources are available on the web? |
| 01:13.27 | pa | coz i remember i had it installed like 2-3 months ago.. |
| 01:13.27 | pa | before reflashing 1.2 |
| 01:14.12 | beford | oh there is another one called DictionaryStar something like that |
| 01:14.17 | beford | that one is free on the store |
| 01:14.41 | pa | ah maybe that one was it.. |
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| 01:52.11 | Dante_J | Using naviperl I'm finding it difficult to find an emmc.bin for PR_299. None was available for my model number. Is there a shortcut, could I just guess some URLs? |
| 01:52.37 | Dante_J | For eg, modify this one appropriately: http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1202/2419/6514978532/2D8061AC_DFL61_HARMATTAN_30.2012.07-1.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin |
| 01:52.39 | Dante_J | ? |
| 01:54.32 | Dante_J | No hits, just misses for me looking for a PR_299 emmc.bin so far. Suggestions appreciated. |
| 02:08.40 | Dante_J | grumbles under his breath |
| 02:09.35 | Dante_J | It's just silly how hard it is to find any emmc.bin, let alone one that suits 299 |
| 02:09.52 | Sazpaimon_ | Dante_J, iirc you can really just use any EMMC |
| 02:10.13 | Sazpaimon_ | when I got my N9 i flashed it with the global firmware+emmc variant when PR1.1 came out |
| 02:10.31 | Sazpaimon_ | if youre already on PR1.3 though, youre stuck with whatever you got |
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| 02:11.18 | Dante_J | I have the correct main bin for 1.3, and appropriate to my N9 model number, but can't find a EMMC |
| 02:11.32 | Dante_J | searching other Australian versions |
| 02:11.58 | Dante_J | and other "V1 - MR" versions |
| 02:12.16 | Dante_J | none of them have an EMMC at all |
| 02:12.43 | Sazpaimon_ | what's the product code for your N9? |
| 02:13.14 | Dante_J | 059L7G7 |
| 02:13.38 | Dante_J | PR_LEGACY_299 |
| 02:14.12 | Dante_J | I'm following advice from njsf |
| 02:14.25 | Dante_J | quotes |
| 02:14.28 | Sazpaimon_ | ]http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1208/2314/7087828450/DF5035B2_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3.SEAP.16_EMMC_SEAP.bin |
| 02:14.31 | Sazpaimon_ | should be it |
| 02:14.46 | Dante_J | ok |
| 02:14.59 | Dante_J | did you use naviperl.pl to find that? |
| 02:15.23 | Sazpaimon_ | navifirm+ actually |
| 02:15.36 | Dante_J | ok |
| 02:16.14 | Dante_J | forgive all the questions, but did you search on the model number, and then did it suggest a EMMC? |
| 02:16.22 | Sazpaimon_ | yeah |
| 02:16.27 | Sazpaimon_ | you sure your N9 is australia variant? |
| 02:16.35 | Dante_J | yes indeed |
| 02:16.43 | Sazpaimon_ | yeah it is, okay |
| 02:16.53 | Sazpaimon_ | SEAP = "South Eastern Asia and Pacific" |
| 02:17.07 | Sazpaimon_ | which doesn't strike me as "Australia" |
| 02:17.24 | Sazpaimon_ | though i guess australia is south pacific |
| 02:17.34 | Dante_J | indeed |
| 02:18.19 | Sazpaimon_ | as i've stated though, EMMC from the global variant usually works for any model |
| 02:18.26 | Dante_J | Many thanks Sazpaimon_ - it was driving me batty to look for it using naviperl.pl - which is better than nothing |
| 02:18.27 | Sazpaimon_ | though I usually pair it with a global firmware |
| 02:18.50 | Dante_J | ok? |
| 02:18.53 | Sazpaimon_ | but it's too late for you to use the global firmware if youre already on PR1.3 |
| 02:19.07 | Sazpaimon_ | since it would technically be seen as a "downgrade" |
| 02:19.20 | Sazpaimon_ | anyway, that EMMC should be what you need, regardless |
| 02:20.17 | Dante_J | I'm looking for the emmc, as I did a re-flash, with --erase-user-data=secure and no emmc, and this lead to mount problems |
| 02:20.39 | Dante_J | so thanks again |
| 02:21.11 | Dante_J | what would be the major differences between the global firmware & region specific firmware? |
| 02:29.50 | Sazpaimon_ | i dont think there is any really |
| 02:30.57 | Dante_J | cool |
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| 07:18.28 | chem|st | good morning |
| 07:18.41 | Sfiet_Konstantin | morning chem|st |
| 07:18.42 | chem|st | I still have issues with modem restarting |
| 07:18.56 | chem|st | does that happen to others? |
| 07:19.11 | Sfiet_Konstantin | sorry, can't help, doesn't happen to me |
| 07:19.24 | chem|st | my modem restarts from time to time, just the modem afaict |
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| 08:14.22 | Khertan_Work | Morning |
| 08:21.36 | chem|st | o/ |
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| 09:27.31 | ZogG_laptop | beford: ping |
| 09:27.49 | ZogG_laptop | Khertan_Work: chem|st: sup |
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| 09:36.24 | Oni^ | how to change users shell to bash in N9 does export SHELL=/bin/bash do it? |
| 09:41.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | unlikely |
| 09:43.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | how about chsh? (no idea if that's available) |
| 09:43.44 | DocScrutinizer05 | the 'orthodox' way would be editing of /etc/passwd |
| 09:43.48 | ZogG_laptop | chsh? |
| 09:44.21 | DocScrutinizer05 | chsh(1) chsh(1) |
| 09:44.22 | DocScrutinizer05 | NAME |
| 09:44.24 | DocScrutinizer05 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:45.21 | ZogG_laptop | oh |
| 09:45.57 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd first make sure there's any bash to invoke ;-D |
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| 09:51.52 | Khertan_Work | sup ZogG_laptop |
| 09:53.15 | DocScrutinizer05 | Oni^: I think the answer is: "edit /etc/passwd" but check: |
| 09:53.19 | DocScrutinizer05 | ~may-i-edit |
| 09:53.20 | infobot | mayIedit () { grep "`basename $1`" /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist && echo "probably not" && return; echo "edit if you feel venturous"; } |
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| 09:55.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | Oni^: be warned that this may render your system in an unbootable state and require a reflash to recover |
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| 09:55.54 | DocScrutinizer05 | Oni^: I for one prefer to manually start bash after login |
| 09:56.26 | DocScrutinizer05 | 5 little keystrokes that won't cause much colateral damage |
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| 10:06.06 | M4rtinK | looks like Ovi QA is falling apart even further :) |
| 10:06.48 | M4rtinK | they just tested my package with V20.2011.40-4_PR_001, which if I am not mistaken is PR 1.0 |
| 10:06.48 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: what now? |
| 10:07.05 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: btw i added translation. tell me when deb is out so i'll check on device |
| 10:07.32 | ZogG_laptop | ~pr1.0 |
| 10:07.35 | ZogG_laptop | ~pr10 |
| 10:07.40 | M4rtinK | and when I connect to an N9 with RDA, it has no internet connectivity :D |
| 10:07.42 | ZogG_laptop | no info :P |
| 10:07.46 | Oni^ | I'm trying to get 'export PATH=$PATH:/opt/irssi/bin:/usr/games:.' executed automatically when I start terminal as user |
| 10:08.23 | M4rtinK | it sees a bunch of wireless networks though (Nokia, GUEST, RDA5, RDA6) but won't connect to any |
| 10:08.41 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: it should be already released since yesterday |
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| 10:10.11 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: i only added missing strings yesterday |
| 10:10.16 | ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: sup |
| 10:10.30 | Hurrian | Can anyone grab the newest busybox-devel-su for me? Enabling developer-mode using the normal way destroys battery life. |
| 10:10.43 | Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, sup |
| 10:10.43 | pa | morning |
| 10:10.55 | ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: why would it destroy battery? |
| 10:11.09 | pa | whats the normal way? |
| 10:11.16 | pa | switch in the options? |
| 10:11.21 | Hurrian | yup |
| 10:11.32 | Hurrian | enabling dev mode the normal way drops battery estimate from ~10 days on standby to 4 days |
| 10:11.32 | pa | why does it drain battery? |
| 10:11.36 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: the latest package is here: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/MartinK:/mieru/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/ |
| 10:11.44 | pa | Hurrian, on.. 1.3? |
| 10:12.23 | Hurrian | pa, mmhm. |
| 10:12.25 | pa | this is a test i havent done, tbh.. |
| 10:12.49 | Hurrian | it may be just placebo, but it's one of my nitpicks |
| 10:12.50 | pa | i hate that 1.3 drains the battery, but now that u say that, maybe i should try to switch dev mode off |
| 10:13.19 | ZogG_laptop | pa: btw u had this 20 → 4 % thing? |
| 10:13.31 | ZogG_laptop | i think i saw some people with advices on it on twitter |
| 10:13.40 | pa | yes i have that |
| 10:13.44 | pa | ah cool |
| 10:13.48 | pa | link? :) |
| 10:14.25 | ZogG_laptop | no link |
| 10:14.34 | ZogG_laptop | i think i saw it when people talked |
| 10:14.41 | Oni^ | how to upgrade dep with dpkg |
| 10:14.57 | ZogG_laptop | so can't help you with that. just bumped in it few days ago thru internet/twitter |
| 10:15.16 | ZogG_laptop | Oni^: why dpkg? |
| 10:15.31 | pa | Hurrian, but if i turn it off, then all those pkgs are uninstalled.. |
| 10:16.10 | Oni^ | Is there anyother way install this http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/gnugo/3.8-1/ |
| 10:17.33 | Oni^ | I'v already got gnugo-3.7.10 |
| 10:18.58 | ZogG_laptop | Oni^: it's freemantle |
| 10:19.02 | ZogG_laptop | fremantle |
| 10:19.36 | Oni^ | who to get one for N9 |
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| 10:19.43 | Oni^ | *how |
| 10:19.47 | djszapi | wow, mesa was ported also to harmattan |
| 10:19.48 | djszapi | great. |
| 10:19.50 | pa | ZogG_laptop, ah okay. but u see, the problem exists, and nokia better do something about that |
| 10:20.19 | ZogG_laptop | pa: they did |
| 10:20.32 | pa | did they? when? |
| 10:20.47 | ZogG_laptop | pa: when they discontinued harmattan obv :P |
| 10:20.56 | pa | :D |
| 10:21.28 | pa | btw i still dont get how can osX be so damn quicker than linux.. |
| 10:22.38 | DocScrutinizer05 | not that fremantle cmdline binaries were particularly unsuited for HARM |
| 10:23.41 | DocScrutinizer05 | I simply copied i2ctools and bash from my N900 (yes, the binaries, and yes once you get them to start thanks paegis, they run like a charm) |
| 10:24.17 | djszapi | DocScrutinizer05: see, paegis is your friend? :) |
| 10:24.23 | djszapi | hides :p |
| 10:27.16 | ZogG_laptop | is in crowd running with torches after djszapi |
| 10:27.18 | ZogG_laptop | :P |
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| 10:29.55 | djszapi | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/m/mesa/ -> oh, there are no arm binaries. |
| 10:30.01 | djszapi | that is unfortunate. |
| 10:30.15 | djszapi | will try to build mesa in scratchbox then |
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| 10:32.20 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: why do u need it? |
| 10:34.17 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: the sgx opengles 2 implementation is broken. |
| 10:34.55 | djszapi | we have tried to fix that in Qt5 upstream, but we do not have a nice solution for that, thus for the time being, I am patching qt5 while packaging. |
| 10:35.05 | djszapi | this way I could use a vanilla qt5 without any custom patches. |
| 10:35.17 | djszapi | (same issue for fremantle as well fwiw) |
| 10:35.26 | ZogG_laptop | =( |
| 10:38.50 | M4rtinK | oh, nice, another RDA bug - the PR 1.1 devices are actually upgraded to PR 1.3 :D |
| 10:41.09 | ZogG_laptop | RDA? |
| 10:41.16 | ZogG_laptop | ~rda |
| 10:41.19 | djszapi | Remote Device Access |
| 10:43.23 | pa | so no hack yet to downgrade the firmware? |
| 10:45.01 | ZogG_laptop | pa: you need signed bootloader for that as far as i understand :P |
| 10:48.39 | pa | ah i see |
| 10:49.06 | M4rtinK | oh, this is getting better and better - they have 8 N9s in the pool, but only one is actually online :D |
| 10:49.17 | ZogG_laptop | pa: you need to sign the modified one so current would allow u to installl it |
| 10:49.36 | M4rtinK | some engineers must have taken them when leaving :) |
| 10:49.41 | ZogG_laptop | and than in modified you need to unable downgrade and unsigned kernels and stuff :P |
| 10:50.09 | pa | it sucks :) |
| 10:50.15 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: they switched them with lumia |
| 10:50.26 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: hh |
| 10:50.27 | ZogG_laptop | M4rtinK: what are you testing there? |
| 10:50.32 | Hurrian | so, uhh, can anyone apt-get -d busybox-devel-su? |
| 10:51.03 | ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: i tried it does nothing |
| 10:51.14 | Hurrian | apt-get install -d --reinstall busybox-devel-su |
| 10:51.35 | M4rtinK | ZogG_laptop: I'm trying to check why my application supposedly doesn't work on PR 1.0 |
| 10:51.48 | M4rtinK | but I'll probably soon execute the backup plan |
| 10:52.15 | M4rtinK | spamming new versions until the underpaid Indian student on the other side has at least PR 1.2 and it passes |
| 10:52.17 | ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: busybox-devel-su_3%3a1.19-8+0m6_armel.deb :P |
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| 10:54.51 | Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, that's perfect |
| 10:56.35 | ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2336306/busybox-devel-su_3%253a1.19-8%2B0m6_armel.deb |
| 10:56.45 | Hurrian | cool, thanks! |
| 10:57.06 | ZogG_laptop | i think it screwed the name though :P |
| 10:59.52 | Hurrian | hmm, it says invalid installation package. Can you MD5 it? |
| 11:01.05 | ZogG_laptop | Hurrian: rename it |
| 11:01.21 | Hurrian | ah |
| 11:01.35 | ZogG_laptop | ed9cc1a45a7f5a4d80b973119d803300 |
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| 11:24.32 | pa | http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/04/unreleased-nokia-lauta-qwerty-slider-emerges/ tho you guys probably all knew |
| 11:25.09 | GeneralAntilles | Imagine a different world. |
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| 11:31.36 | chem|st | pa: there was talking about a n950/n9 merge qwerty release years ago |
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| 11:42.09 | TheBootroo | hi !! |
| 11:42.57 | TheBootroo | i deploy an app on N9 with QtSDk, i have set an icon for menu (80x80) and for package manager (64x64), the one for package manager works but the menu show red square, even after reboot.... |
| 11:44.20 | Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo: check your desktop file |
| 11:45.54 | TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: in .desktop (generated by QtCreator) the line is Icon=MyProjectName |
| 11:46.00 | Hurrian | pa, if that was released, everything would've changed |
| 11:46.25 | pa | heh sure :) |
| 11:46.32 | Hurrian | a device with roughly the same dimensions as the N9, but with a keyboard. |
| 11:46.42 | pa | you mean.. an n950 |
| 11:46.48 | TheBootroo | and this file is deployed by the package into /usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps |
| 11:46.51 | TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: |
| 11:50.00 | Hurrian | ZogG_laptop, figured out the error. "Package is not user package", tee hee. Time to repackage the deb. |
| 11:50.28 | Sfiet_Konstantin | TheBootroo: shouldn't it be /usr/share/icons/hicolor/80x80/apps/myapp.png |
| 11:50.31 | Sfiet_Konstantin | instead ? |
| 11:50.48 | jpnurmi | any ideas for generating file "preview" thumbnails? should support common image formats, txt, html, pdf etc. |
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| 11:55.29 | M4rtinK | just sent an email about all the Ovi & RDA issues to Nokia |
| 11:55.42 | M4rtinK | hope there is still someone left to respond :D |
| 11:57.43 | pa | jpnurmi, you mean you want a preview of the pdf content in the thumbnail, for example? |
| 11:57.57 | jpnurmi | pa: yes |
| 11:58.43 | pa | hm.. doesnt sound straightforward to rasterize the first page of a pdf to a thumb.. |
| 11:58.46 | jpnurmi | pa: i could use QPrinter for pdfs, QImage/QPixmap for images, etc... just wondering if some readily available solution exists |
| 11:58.54 | pa | but maybe there are some libraries that do that |
| 11:59.07 | pa | ah i see |
| 12:00.02 | pa | i guess qprinter would work for txt and html too, right? |
| 12:00.03 | jpnurmi | hmm, let's see how dolphin does it |
| 12:00.39 | TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: it worked |
| 12:01.09 | jpnurmi | except that it doesn't handle pdf it seems :( |
| 12:01.22 | TheBootroo | Sfiet_Konstantin: strange though, because on linux .desktop we need only the name of icon, and the theme engine automatically finds the filename |
| 12:02.16 | pa | jpnurmi, technically, couldnt you use qprinter for everything? i dont know eh.. never used it |
| 12:03.23 | jpnurmi | pa: i just realized qprinter can only output pdfs... |
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| 12:06.43 | Sfiet_Konstantin | not on harmattan |
| 12:06.47 | Sfiet_Konstantin | they don't have the same engine |
| 12:06.54 | Sfiet_Konstantin | it depends on the DE to support icons |
| 12:07.37 | djszapiN9 | Sfiet_Konstantin, where are you from? |
| 12:09.00 | pa | jpnurmi, apparently some guy rasterized pdf using gs in an external process |
| 12:09.26 | pa | is there gs on harmattan? |
| 12:10.02 | djszapiN9 | what is gs? |
| 12:10.12 | pa | ghostscript |
| 12:10.23 | djszapiN9 | there is iirc |
| 12:10.32 | pa | then it might work |
| 12:10.40 | pa | slowly tho :) |
| 12:10.43 | djszapiN9 | why don't you run apt-cache search? |
| 12:11.44 | pa | jpnurmi, or imagemagick, if there is that too and you are feeling lucky (as it always produces wrong conversions :p) |
| 12:12.15 | djszapiN9 | there is |
| 12:12.25 | djszapiN9 | again, why not use the tools? |
| 12:13.13 | pa | jeez i cant even imagine how slow would imagemagick be on the N9 :) |
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| 13:59.37 | Khertan_Work | Mouarf |
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| 14:14.39 | jonni | reload helped :) |
| 14:17.51 | ZogG_laptop | jonni, am i missing or you are not in codding competition? |
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| 14:20.26 | jonni | I am, but I havent bothered to submit yet. |
| 14:28.51 | pa | jonni, by the way, what about that tool to extract qml from qrc? O:-) |
| 14:29.11 | pa | he he |
| 14:31.30 | hiemanshu | pa: strings <file name> will give you most of it mostly :P |
| 14:32.55 | pa | yep, actually in my case just editing it show me the most, but you know.. if it would be possible to get all of it, it would be better :) |
| 14:33.41 | hiemanshu | do that ^ |
| 14:33.46 | hiemanshu | you'll just have to split them yourself :P |
| 14:35.56 | Khertan_Work | #jolla will have some announce soon |
| 14:36.18 | Sfiet_Konstantin | are you sure Khertan_Work ? |
| 14:36.25 | Sfiet_Konstantin | all right, soon is ok |
| 14:36.29 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but how soon |
| 14:36.30 | Khertan_Work | Sfiet_Konstantin: nope the word hope was missing |
| 14:36.32 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Nokia soon ? |
| 14:36.42 | Sfiet_Konstantin | oh well yeah |
| 14:36.45 | Khertan_Work | hope #jolla will have some announce soon |
| 14:36.46 | Khertan_Work | sorry |
| 14:36.50 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Jolla hackday is coming |
| 14:36.54 | Khertan_Work | yeah ... |
| 14:36.56 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and I'm more exited about that |
| 14:37.00 | Khertan_Work | clearly |
| 14:37.29 | Khertan_Work | i would expect a live crash or funny error for the nokia world |
| 14:37.32 | pa | and any chance that nokia will restart the maemo division, once Elop will be fired? :) |
| 14:37.35 | Khertan_Work | but streaming not working |
| 14:37.42 | Sfiet_Konstantin | it is impossible |
| 14:37.47 | chem|st | Khertan_Work: I hope they have the lauta blueprints |
| 14:37.48 | Sfiet_Konstantin | they fired all Maemo people |
| 14:37.55 | pa | well, they can hire them back |
| 14:38.00 | Sfiet_Konstantin | if you want to get Maemo device, you can only hope at Jolla |
| 14:38.07 | Sfiet_Konstantin | pa: Nokia need to have money |
| 14:38.13 | Sfiet_Konstantin | to hire |
| 14:38.22 | Sfiet_Konstantin | but they burnt it with useless WP7 ads |
| 14:38.26 | pa | well, they wont make money by not selling smartphones :) |
| 14:38.46 | chem|st | well maemo was invented with a group of outsourced people, right? |
| 14:39.21 | Sfiet_Konstantin | pa: MS is feeding them |
| 14:39.42 | pa | yes, and soon MS feed will end |
| 14:39.52 | Khertan_Work | or bought them |
| 14:40.40 | Sfiet_Konstantin | Nokia lost their only capabilities of innovating and differenciation by selling Qt / Maemo and co |
| 14:40.48 | Sfiet_Konstantin | they don't have any R&D on SW |
| 14:41.12 | Sfiet_Konstantin | from now, they are only "normal" manufacturers like sammy or HTC |
| 14:41.18 | Sfiet_Konstantin | nothing more |
| 14:41.30 | chem|st | symbian is still 10years ahead of ios development wise, but they dropped it... |
| 14:41.48 | Sfiet_Konstantin | chem|st: well, you have to agree that Symbian have huge weakness |
| 14:41.49 | Khertan_Work | chem|st: 10years ahead ... hum ... a bit optimistic |
| 14:41.55 | Sfiet_Konstantin | hard to maintain & stuff |
| 14:42.01 | chem|st | Sfiet_Konstantin: example? |
| 14:42.14 | Sfiet_Konstantin | why did they need 1 year to port Qt on it ? |
| 14:42.20 | Khertan_Work | chem|st: the only good point of symbian is that we can use Qt |
| 14:42.21 | Khertan_Work | :) |
| 14:42.39 | Sfiet_Konstantin | it is known that they had problems sw wise. They were always late at delivering on symbian |
| 14:42.59 | Sfiet_Konstantin | although symbian is nice, it is indeed too old |
| 14:43.06 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and I appreciate what mer is doing |
| 14:43.14 | Sfiet_Konstantin | reconstructing an OS on the simplest way possible |
| 14:43.18 | Sfiet_Konstantin | and clean way |
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| 15:09.22 | Khertan_Work | NOK:-0.38(-13.43%) |
| 15:09.23 | Khertan_Work | arf |
| 15:12.24 | pa | ? |
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| 15:53.01 | phako | khertan: cool, you get 38ct if you buy nokia stocks? ;) |
| 15:55.52 | pa | im sure if they fire elop, the stock would skyrocket :) |
| 15:56.03 | pa | good for speculation |
| 15:57.29 | valdur55 | oh. it will go some time downline and then very fast back to up |
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| 16:35.51 | phako | if it's an ascii char, just cast. |
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| 16:54.33 | jpnurmi | i can see ghostscript at http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan/free/g/ghostscript/ but apt-get says E: Couldn't find package ghostscript ? |
| 17:09.37 | jonni | jpnurmi: and you have that repo in your scratchbox etc/apt ? |
| 17:10.13 | jonni | and remembered to run update before get :) |
| 17:10.15 | jpnurmi | jonni: on the device |
| 17:10.40 | jonni | jpnurmi: harmattan-dev repo is only meant for scratchbox and not the device. |
| 17:10.54 | jpnurmi | so i must add an extra apt source for that? i guess i cannot depend on that package in an app that would be submitted to store then :( |
| 17:11.37 | jonni | jpnurmi: yes you cannot depend to that for ovi store apps. |
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| 17:16.07 | ZogG_laptop | phako, yeah thanks, it didn't work as it was char c="A"; and i needed char c='A'; :P |
| 17:16.31 | phako | well the first is not a char :-= |
| 17:16.32 | phako | :-P |
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| 17:23.15 | e-yes | hi all |
| 17:23.17 | e-yes | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.09 | djszapiN9 | harmattan repository is a must have on the device though |
| 17:25.37 | djszapiN9 | if the community repository is invoked by someone. |
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| 17:47.25 | jonni | e-yes: yes in firmware and no you cannot implement custom gestures for it. |
| 17:51.39 | e-yes | jonni, is double-tap only implemented gesture OR there is some set of "pre-loaded" gestures that device makers can choose from? |
| 17:51.58 | jonni | e-yes: the only |
| 17:52.19 | e-yes | ok, thanks |
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| 17:58.48 | ieatlint | the double-tap is one of the features i really like on the n9/50 |
| 17:59.09 | ieatlint | probably in part because i'm left handed and the damn unlock buttons on phones are never that convenient |
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| 18:11.28 | sivang | so wireless charging? wtf |
| 18:11.33 | sivang | (lumia 920) |
| 18:11.38 | sivang | ZogG_laptop: ^ |
| 18:11.41 | sivang | MohammadAG: ^ |
| 18:11.44 | Arie | its possible on n9 |
| 18:11.49 | sivang | Arie: how so? |
| 18:11.59 | Arie | its been done on the lumia 800 |
| 18:12.02 | ZogG_laptop | sivang, hey |
| 18:12.05 | Arie | design is similar on n9 |
| 18:12.10 | sivang | Arie: how is this soccery possible? |
| 18:12.15 | sivang | ZogG_laptop: 'sup? |
| 18:12.26 | ZogG_laptop | sivang, i uploaded photos of naked MohammadAG as promised |
| 18:13.06 | sivang | hahaha |
| 18:13.10 | e-yes | шалунишка |
| 18:13.11 | sivang | he's not answering |
| 18:14.24 | ZogG_laptop | e-yes, :P |
| 18:15.21 | ZogG_laptop | sivang, you need to go to the Tesla grave and get him back to life and give him N9 :P |
| 18:15.24 | Arie | weird |
| 18:15.29 | Arie | lol |
| 18:15.39 | Arie | its possible, i wont say much till it happens |
| 18:16.07 | sivang | Arie: hoax ? |
| 18:16.46 | Arie | no |
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| 18:17.59 | sivang | Arie: is there an update expected to enable N9 to do wireless charging that you won't talk about until it happens? :) |
| 18:18.30 | ZogG_laptop | like never :P |
| 18:18.39 | Arie | no, im talking to the guy that modded the Lumia 800 to help me do it on the n9 |
| 18:18.49 | sivang | nice |
| 18:18.59 | ZogG_laptop | sivang, MohammadAG http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_zogg/sets/72157631423446338/ |
| 18:19.00 | Arie | i have a few n9's lying around so might as well |
| 18:19.29 | ZogG_laptop | Arie, you can take two N9 and use as charger like in medicine is someone |
| 18:19.34 | sivang | ZogG_laptop: hmog, I look like a troll |
| 18:19.35 | ZogG_laptop | if some's heart stopped |
| 18:19.41 | Arie | from left to right? |
| 18:19.52 | ZogG_laptop | Arie, which photo? |
| 18:20.16 | ZogG_laptop | first is Shturman damagedspline MohammadAG sivang |
| 18:20.40 | sivang | we were the middle eastern harmattan user group in full capacity last night |
| 18:21.05 | Arie | damn |
| 18:21.12 | Arie | i should have been there too |
| 18:21.21 | sivang | Arie: you from .il as well? |
| 18:22.05 | sivang | ZogG_laptop: I should never smile |
| 18:22.26 | sivang | anyway, laters all |
| 18:22.30 | Arie | no, the us |
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| 19:39.52 | ZogG_laptop | anyone here is a friend with visual studio on win? |
| 19:40.11 | sneakyc4 | Technically, oculd the N9 do proper 720p decoding? |
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| 19:55.24 | phako | ZogG_laptop: what for? |
| 19:55.52 | ZogG_laptop | phako, solved it by reverting to last commit |
| 19:55.55 | phako | ok |
| 19:56.05 | ZogG_laptop | it fucked up the encode of text in visual itself |
| 19:56.11 | ZogG_laptop | like encode of code i write |
| 19:56.17 | phako | yeah |
| 19:56.21 | phako | that happens sometimes |
| 19:56.21 | ZogG_laptop | and didn't compile with wierd error |
| 19:56.29 | ZogG_laptop | fucking windows |
| 19:56.42 | ZogG_laptop | i hope it happens on Lumias with contacts :P |
| 19:59.13 | njsf | N9 contacts only syncs with one MfE ?! |
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| 20:17.46 | pa | sneakyc4, technically, 3630 specs say yes |
| 20:18.00 | pa | njsf, out of stock, yes |
| 20:18.21 | njsf | pa: any hack ? |
| 20:18.29 | pa | to sync withwhat? |
| 20:18.38 | njsf | with another MfE account |
| 20:18.43 | pa | ah |
| 20:18.48 | njsf | or to switch the MfE account it syncs with |
| 20:18.50 | pa | not that i am aware of |
| 20:18.56 | pa | where do you have your contacts? |
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| 20:19.08 | njsf | 2 Google accounts + Work |
| 20:19.15 | pa | ok |
| 20:19.22 | pa | for google you can try syncgcontacts |
| 20:19.23 | njsf | using Mfe to the 2 google accounts for Calendar mostly |
| 20:19.38 | njsf | It just seems that the 1st MfE wins |
| 20:19.57 | pa | but then it wouldnt play nicely with the third Mf3, i guess |
| 20:19.59 | njsf | I'm now going to remove the 3 MfE and add work, where I have the most contacts |
| 20:20.01 | pa | i mean, the third MfE would probably try to sync the gmail contacts |
| 20:20.27 | njsf | afterwards I could try to force sync in accounts.db |
| 20:20.36 | njsf | setting sync/contacts value to 1 |
| 20:20.46 | pa | work is local server? |
| 20:20.54 | njsf | no, ActiveSync |
| 20:20.57 | pa | ah ok |
| 20:21.15 | pa | well in your case im not sure i can help |
| 20:21.26 | njsf | thanks for trying ! |
| 20:21.40 | pa | no problem :) |
| 20:21.41 | njsf | I mostly just wanted to confirm this was expected behavior |
| 20:21.59 | pa | if you decide to keep everything on gmail acounts, then you could be lucky |
| 20:22.17 | njsf | Well when I get another job I wmight try that |
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| 20:22.42 | njsf | but my current employer is anal enough that it replaces the SSL certificate when accessing google search |
| 20:22.57 | njsf | so I won't sync ANYTHING through their network that is personal |
| 20:23.09 | njsf | if they don't trust, I won't trust :) |
| 20:23.27 | pa | lol jeez is that even legal? |
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| 20:24.13 | njsf | yes, it is their network and SOX act gives them the excuse they have to "log" all communications |
| 20:24.37 | njsf | it does not help that gmail cert is same as google.com search cert |
| 20:25.03 | pa | thats interesting.. |
| 20:25.24 | njsf | they even install their internal cert via the Microsoft management |
| 20:25.30 | njsf | which Chrome just eats up |
| 20:25.35 | pa | but do you have to sync while at work? |
| 20:25.37 | njsf | but Firefox knows better :) |
| 20:26.18 | njsf | No, not really, but I can only access the mailbox when connected to their network via VPN |
| 20:26.36 | njsf | so the only opening is really OWA |
| 20:26.50 | njsf | or MfE whatever you want to call it |
| 20:26.54 | pa | no i mean, if you would have all your contacts on gmail accounts, or also on gmail accounts |
| 20:27.19 | njsf | I might do an export soon yes |
| 20:27.28 | pa | then you could use syncgcontacts |
| 20:27.45 | njsf | but once I do that, I'll actually prefer having my own SyncML server |
| 20:28.11 | njsf | BTW, anyone does the contacts sync via SyncML server like funambol or something ? |
| 20:28.29 | pa | i think you can do something like that with syncevolution |
| 20:29.13 | njsf | I have to set something like that up |
| 20:29.37 | njsf | Ever since Nokia shutdown their contact sync (sigh) |
| 20:30.45 | piggz | lo |
| 20:40.41 | njsf | also, any way to import a VCF ? |
| 21:04.30 | pa | "module "CustomComponents" is not installed " <- wtf? it was working last week |
| 21:04.38 | pa | on simulator |
| 21:13.19 | pa | ok found |
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| 21:27.35 | djszapi_ | seems I have not used my N9 long ago for package installation... |
| 21:27.46 | djszapi_ | what is the way of installin a debian nowadays? |
| 21:27.56 | djszapi_ | I do not know my root password, whatsoever. |
| 21:28.04 | djszapi_ | I only know the developer passwor. |
| 21:28.07 | djszapi_ | passworfd |
| 21:28.10 | djszapi_ | password* |
| 21:29.48 | djszapi_ | it does not have the user section either, so the package manager will not like it either without being root. |
| 21:32.59 | djszapi_ | oh it now worked, weird. |
| 21:33.03 | djszapi_ | I changed my sdk password to rootme |
| 21:33.10 | djszapi_ | and then that is also good for the root, weird. |
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| 21:57.43 | ieatlint | heh, so after announcing their new devices, nokia's stock drops 16% |
| 21:58.12 | djszapi_ | so? |
| 21:58.14 | ieatlint | but i'm sure they're on their way to beating their record-setting quarter 2 smartphone sales in the US |
| 21:58.37 | ieatlint | (or, at least, they'll probably sell more than the 600k they did in q2) |
| 21:59.02 | ieatlint | so it's a bit of schadenfreude.. i don't specifically wish nokia ill, but i'm not going to cry about it either |
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| 22:02.36 | djszapi_ | good night |
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| 22:58.49 | admiral0 | ieatlint: new nokia devices? |
| 22:58.59 | admiral0 | lemme guess win8phone? |
| 22:59.36 | virtuald | there is no nokia any longer, it's just a new skin for microsoft |
| 23:00.06 | virtuald | or surface if you will |
| 23:00.43 | admiral0 | microsoft is metamorph :O |
| 23:05.05 | admiral0 | lol, 820 and 920 |
| 23:13.15 | ieatlint | yeah |
| 23:13.27 | virtuald | is that the same as a polymorph? |
| 23:13.30 | ieatlint | the hardware doesn't look bad, but i still think "metro" is a piece of crap |
| 23:26.05 | admiral0 | virtuald: game of thrones |
| 23:27.08 | admiral0 | virtuald: metamorphs - people who can control animals or even humans entering their mind |
| 23:27.59 | admiral0 | ieatlint: hardware for 920 is actually nice... unfortunately it has w8p on... |
| 23:28.50 | virtuald | ok |
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| 23:29.13 | admiral0 | in the meantime |
| 23:29.18 | admiral0 | enjoy the bashing |
| 23:29.19 | admiral0 | http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/09/failure-version-2-nokia-lumia-relaunch-with-windows-phone-8-is-also-a-total-dud.html |
| 23:31.09 | admiral0 | he has some points though |
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