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| 07:36.51 | Tronic | Drive hangs on startup screen and I have to task-switch elsewhere and back to get it started. I've tried setting language and input method to en-GB but that didn't help. Any other ideas besides flashing? |
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| 10:18.12 | ZogG_laptop | jonni: i hope you submited backup manager for competition |
| 10:18.16 | ZogG_laptop | :P |
| 10:21.24 | rZr | hi |
| 10:21.50 | rZr | in the tent under irish rain |
| 10:26.14 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: :P |
| 10:26.23 | ZogG_laptop | rZr: with djzapi? |
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| 11:38.05 | jussi | can someone link me to the reflash tool for the n9? |
| 11:41.24 | jussi | ahh I have the flasher, I mean the nice git script to get the firmward |
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| 11:45.48 | jussi | and never mind, my google skills are getting good :) |
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| 12:32.27 | suy | jussi: care to share that? I didn't knew of a git script for that... |
| 12:33.23 | jussi | suy: sure, its on the nemo wiki, for recovering your firmware after installing nemo: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#Recovering_your_N9_firmware |
| 12:34.35 | jussi | and I worded wrong, not a git script, but a script in git... ;) |
| 12:34.43 | jussi | its a perl script ;) |
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| 12:36.36 | suy | jussi: Ok, that sounds nice. I've never liked the idea of using navifirm. |
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| 14:08.38 | timmay | just got my n9 in the mail today. doing updates now. |
| 14:08.58 | mgedmin | congrats! |
| 14:12.12 | timmay | already have the n900. so i guess this is an upgrade. |
| 14:12.49 | mgedmin | the n900 was way under-powered (only 256 megs of ram?) |
| 14:12.55 | mgedmin | the n9 almost isn't |
| 14:14.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | well, my panasonic CF-27 toughbook actually was underposered with 192MB of RAM - when I started openoffice |
| 14:14.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | s/ose/owe/ |
| 14:15.01 | DocScrutinizer05 | for general KDE working, it was pretty adequate |
| 14:15.12 | timmay | maybe i can save some time. i'm looking for 2 apps. custom ringtones and a way to automatically lock the phone |
| 14:15.43 | timmay | i'm on a wite called http://n9-apps.com/ |
| 14:17.44 | timmay | wite=site |
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| 14:22.18 | jussi | timmay: autolock should be in the settings iirc |
| 14:22.41 | jussi | and custom ringtones you can just put files into some folder - there are guides on the net |
| 14:22.53 | jussi | Unless you want to buy ringtones... :P |
| 14:22.58 | jussi | o,O |
| 14:45.56 | Piru | hmm wait, is it normal that Nokia Link just terminates in the middle of backup operation? |
| 14:57.17 | Piru | .lbu file appears in the backups dir while it works.. but disappears and the app restarts as if no phone was connected |
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| 14:58.44 | Piru | oh, this is the OS X version. I'll give windows one a try |
| 15:02.06 | Piru | also, is it possible to restore the backup to a different phone? I busted the screen of my 16GB model and would like to move everything to my 64GB one |
| 15:04.10 | Piru | oh sweet, it appears the windows Nokia Link worked ok. Well, I guess I'll find soon enough if I can restore to the 64GB one :) |
| 15:05.31 | jonni | Piru: or you can atleast dream about it, it might be that the default backup can only be restored to same device, but I might be wrong :) |
| 15:06.05 | Piru | that's my fear yes... |
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| 15:06.13 | jonni | atleast thats why I did my own custom backup script which doesnt encrypt the backup with the imei. |
| 15:06.22 | Piru | but before I even attempt that I'll make sure it has the same firmware version.. |
| 15:06.33 | Piru | oh damn, I see. no way then |
| 15:07.22 | jonni | well atleast you can backup your messages, contacts etc to pc suite, and those can be restored to any other device aswell. |
| 15:07.33 | Piru | and installed apps? |
| 15:07.37 | Piru | and their configs? |
| 15:07.39 | jonni | ökk |
| 15:07.53 | jonni | Piru: installed apps are never backupped, even with nokia link. |
| 15:08.01 | jonni | Piru: so you always need to reinstall the apps |
| 15:08.11 | Piru | whut? that worked even with n900 |
| 15:08.28 | jonni | its a 'feature' :) |
| 15:08.53 | Piru | basically it just did dpkg --get-selections afaik, and stored the app config dir |
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| 15:09.02 | Piru | don't tell me N9 can't do that anymore.... |
| 15:09.41 | Piru | meh I guess I'll look into manual copying then |
| 15:09.43 | jonni | Piru: yep it can do it anymore, since you cannot apt-get ovi apps by defeault from commandline, you need to use the ovi store ui :) |
| 15:10.13 | jonni | thats why people tend to gather the deb packages to their personal backup dir and do dpkg -i *.deb after reinstall |
| 15:10.14 | Piru | soo what if I manually move the config dir over? |
| 15:10.34 | Piru | install the apps from the store |
| 15:11.10 | Piru | that should in theory work as the app would think it has been reinstalled or sth |
| 15:11.12 | jonni | most of the cases its just faster to configure everything from scratch |
| 15:11.24 | Piru | believe me, I am NOT fond of that idea |
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| 15:11.51 | Piru | plus I know my way around here, I have ssh enabled for instance |
| 15:11.57 | jonni | but yes, you can manually copy for example the angry birds level&highscore lists over the new device, if you dont want to start playing from scratch |
| 15:12.03 | Piru | and my own domain for the phone that updates automagically. hehe ;) |
| 15:12.27 | Msquared | Hi, everyone! |
| 15:12.41 | Piru | so is there just single dir which contains all the app configs? |
| 15:12.53 | Piru | I can manually back that up and install to the new device.. |
| 15:13.09 | Piru | then just install all apps that I have on the old phone |
| 15:13.42 | jonni | Piru: nope, evere app stores the configs where ever they want to, so its all over the place, some are under /etc, some under /opt, some under /home/user, etc |
| 15:14.16 | Piru | damn it. where did all that good n900 design go? ;-) |
| 15:14.33 | Msquared | I can't ssh to my N9 passwordless, despite following instructions at http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/enable-ssh-usern950-public-key-authentication/ |
| 15:14.46 | Msquared | Is this the right place to ask, or should I ask on #N9? |
| 15:14.48 | jonni | basicly your reinstalling every app from start, only thing that pc suite saves you is the contacts and messages |
| 15:15.44 | Piru | I suppose I have to live with that then |
| 15:15.51 | Piru | annoying as hell though |
| 15:15.55 | Msquared | jonni: sounds like when I recently re-installed from a crashed N9 - ezylists stored its lists in /home/user, but lucky I was able to back up the relevant folder before I factory reset |
| 15:16.46 | Msquared | I'm sure I had it working before, but I've recently had to reset my N9 after it crashed while I was setting the time |
| 15:16.46 | jonni | Msquared: are you tring to ssh into user@192.168.2.15 or developer@192.168.2.15? and which dir you copied the authorized_keys into? |
| 15:16.52 | Msquared | user@ |
| 15:17.05 | jonni | Msquared: and have you remembered to set password to user with passwd command? |
| 15:17.12 | Msquared | I copied the authorized_keys file into /home/.ssh |
| 15:17.29 | Msquared | Yep, setting a password was the first thing I did |
| 15:17.36 | jonni | Msquared: which is wrong dir :) /home/user/.ssh |
| 15:17.41 | Msquared | Oops, /home/user/.ssh |
| 15:18.05 | Msquared | I'll try to reset the password again, hang on... |
| 15:20.00 | Msquared | Hmmm, still asking for my password on every connection. I even tried passwd -u user twice, as per the comment on that article. |
| 15:20.43 | jonni | Msquared: if you enter the password, does it let you in? |
| 15:21.00 | Msquared | Yes. I just can't get it to log in passwordless. |
| 15:21.52 | Msquared | I'm can't troubleshoot any further either, because nothing goes into /var/log/secure.log even though I've done "echo "auth.* -/var/log/secure.log" >> /etc/syslog.conf" and rebooted. |
| 15:22.13 | Msquared | I note that "start" and "stop" commands don't exist. Am I missing a package? |
| 15:22.27 | jonni | Msquared: a second I'll that does it work for me. |
| 15:22.39 | jonni | Msquared: start and stop are only in roots path, not in users |
| 15:22.46 | Msquared | Oh, hang on then... |
| 15:23.31 | Piru | Regarding the busted screen in the old N9: I think I'll get one of those ebay things with the whole display assembly and swap it myself. It'd be quite hard to separate the glass and the actual display |
| 15:24.38 | Piru | Whereas swapping the whole display assembly should be rather simple thing to do |
| 15:25.05 | Msquared | OK, I can start and stop with /sbin/(start|stop) but there are still no log entries in /var/log/secure.log |
| 15:28.50 | Msquared | Hmmm, no information in /var/log/syslog to indicate I've done something wrong (or even something right) with /etc/syslog.conf |
| 15:29.10 | jonni | Msquared: I just tested, and it works for me just fine. passwd -u user didnt set passwd. but if I did, su - user; passwd; then it set it. |
| 15:29.48 | jonni | Msquared: maybe your authorized_keys file has wrong keys in it, or the file has wrong owner or chmod? |
| 15:31.40 | Msquared | I know passwd -u user doesn't set the password, it unlocks the password. However, I set the password from root via 'passwd user'; I'll try doing it the way you suggest and see what happens. |
| 15:32.27 | Msquared | The authorized_keys file is definitely correct, and I'm fairly sure the mode/owner are correct, but without any log from sshd I can't troubleshoot any further. |
| 15:32.34 | Msquared | Any idea how to enable sshd logging? |
| 15:35.15 | Msquared | That's weird: "~ # su - user" yields "su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted" |
| 15:35.34 | jonni | Msquared: you can always increase logging level from client side too to see where it ends |
| 15:35.48 | Msquared | OK, I'll try that. |
| 15:37.07 | jonni | Msquared: but anyways for me it was just enough to vi authorized_keys file and insert the id_rsa.pub oneliner, didnt have to stop and start anything, worked out of the box |
| 15:40.14 | Piru | Msquared: check file permission. iirc sshd is picky about that for security reasons |
| 15:43.44 | Msquared | ~ $ ls -lad .ssh |
| 15:43.46 | Msquared | drwx------ 2 user users 4096 Jul 29 12:58 .ssh |
| 15:44.08 | Msquared | ~ $ ls -lad .ssh/authorized_keys |
| 15:44.14 | Msquared | -rw------- 1 user users 400 Jul 29 12:58 .ssh/authorized_keys |
| 15:44.34 | Msquared | That looks correct, right? |
| 15:45.06 | Msquared | I'll try re-copying my public key into it, but I'm pretty sure I copied it back from the copy I made before I performed a factory reset... |
| 15:45.11 | Piru | indeed it does |
| 15:46.15 | Msquared | Nope, re-copying the contents doesn't work. |
| 15:46.33 | Msquared | I'll copy the authorized_keys file from another host that I can log into passwordless |
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| 15:50.17 | djszapi | ZogG_laptop: feel free to send the qt meetup organizers to me. |
| 15:53.43 | Msquared | Hmmm. Nope, that doesn't work, either. So I'm 100% sure I have the right key in the right file with the right mode and the right owner, but I still can't log in passwordless. |
| 15:54.39 | Msquared | Any thoughts on how to get the system to give me more debugging information? I tries DEBUG3 on the ssh client, but there was no difference between ssh to user@n9 and ssh to nonuser@n9 (I figure any difference might tell me what to look for, but didn't make a difference) |
| 15:56.47 | Msquared | I've never had this much trouble with ssh before. Even dropbear on xbian for my Raspberry Pi didn't give me this much grief... |
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| 15:59.39 | Oni^ | so is there anyway to ssh in N9 pr1.3 as user |
| 16:00.19 | Piru | jonni: hmm. the lbu appears to contain clear text strings |
| 16:00.29 | djszapi | Oni^: yes, but why would you do that? |
| 16:00.52 | Piru | jonni: if it is encrypted it for sure is a poor encryption. for example my skype contact names are visible |
| 16:00.52 | mgedmin | I ssh to my n9 as user all the time |
| 16:01.57 | Oni^ | it is easyer change settings and send file when using real keyboard |
| 16:01.58 | Msquared | mgedmin: ssh is working fine, but I just can't get it to work passwordless |
| 16:02.15 | Piru | if they actually only encrypted the data and not metadata then I *really* see no point in this encryption |
| 16:02.18 | Msquared | It's really frustrating, since I know I had it working before I factory-reset the N9 |
| 16:02.32 | mgedmin | Msquared, I use ssh keys |
| 16:03.18 | Piru | hmm the backup also has /home/user/.config/* |
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| 16:03.23 | djszapi | Oni^: you do not need user for that |
| 16:03.26 | Piru | with settings for many apps |
| 16:03.42 | Piru | jonni: are you sure you were 100% correct about everything? ;) |
| 16:04.07 | Piru | well I suppose we'll see in a sec. almost done with pr 1.3 update |
| 16:06.09 | Piru | jonni: Nokia Link began restoring the files. |
| 16:08.44 | Piru | and restore is finished, N9 booted |
| 16:08.48 | Piru | moment of truth |
| 16:09.18 | Oni^ | I can't even ssh I always get Connection refused error |
| 16:09.41 | djszapi | Oni^: developer mode enabled? |
| 16:09.51 | djszapi | ssh server running? |
| 16:10.23 | Oni^ | no and yes |
| 16:10.25 | Piru | N9 asks to restore the applications |
| 16:10.40 | djszapi | Oni^: you need to be in developer mode |
| 16:10.41 | Oni^ | sshd is running |
| 16:10.42 | Piru | jonni: you seem to have some inaccurate info regarding this |
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| 16:30.44 | Msquared | mgedmin: yes, I'm trying to set up the ssh keys |
| 16:31.31 | djszapi | beford: heyo |
| 16:31.44 | beford | hi |
| 16:31.46 | Msquared | As far as I can tell, perhaps aegis is stopping sshd from logging me in via ssh keys. I've tried everything I can find, I've verified the ssh key I'm using, I've double-checked the mode and permissions on the .ssh folder and the authorized_keys file. |
| 16:32.12 | djszapi | beford: can I get access to a Mac machine for a bit, or can you try to reproduce a bug? |
| 16:32.19 | Msquared | I can't get any further because I can't work out how to log sshd messages. If I could do that, then at least sshd would tell me what's going on... |
| 16:32.20 | beford | Msquared: did you ssh-add after adding? |
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| 16:32.28 | djszapi | beford: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTPLAYGROUND-4 |
| 16:32.40 | beford | i will try |
| 16:33.39 | Msquared | beford: Yes. This is my default setup. I even copied the authorized_keys file from a host that I can connect to passwordless to my N9 (fixing permissions and mode on the way), and it still doesn't work. |
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| 16:37.35 | djszapi | beford: do you still have your Qt installation on your Mac? |
| 16:37.59 | beford | no, I swapped the hard disc |
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| 16:38.48 | djszapi | beford: well, you need to go through the qtcore installation. |
| 16:40.14 | djszapi | beford: http://releases.qt-project.org/qt5.0/beta1/qt-mac-opensource-5.0.0-beta1-offline.dmg |
| 16:41.06 | djszapi | but if you wish, you can try with Qt4 as well. We should support both. |
| 16:41.36 | Msquared | Note that I'm trying to ssh passwordless over wifi... |
| 16:44.22 | beford | im installing that one djszapi |
| 16:44.24 | beford | downloading^ |
| 16:44.31 | beford | Msquared: it should work over ssh too |
| 16:44.40 | beford | I have mine working without issue |
| 16:44.48 | beford | N9 PR1.3 |
| 16:45.05 | beford | Msquared: you are adding the keys for the user developer right? |
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| 16:58.34 | Msquared | I know. I had it working before, but I've since had to perform a factory reset. I must have missed something while I was setting it up again.... |
| 16:59.00 | Msquared | I don't want to log in as user developer, I want to log in as user user. |
| 17:00.04 | Msquared | If I could work out how to get sshd to log to /var/log/secure.log like it's supposed to, at least I could find out why sshd is not working properly. |
| 17:02.18 | Msquared | The last entry in secure.log is dated 1st Nov last year, which I expect was probably just before an update... |
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| 17:03.06 | Msquared | I also have PR1.3, so I don't know what's wrong with this... |
| 17:05.15 | valdur55 | first, log as developer |
| 17:05.27 | valdur55 | then devel-su |
| 17:05.34 | valdur55 | and then : passwd user |
| 17:06.24 | Msquared | I can log in as user@n9 using a password that I set; this is not a problem. |
| 17:06.28 | valdur55 | Msquared, then set your user password and then you can log to user account |
| 17:06.42 | Msquared | I can't seem to set it up to log in passwordless. |
| 17:07.58 | Msquared | The frustrating thing is that before I performed a factory reset, I had this working... |
| 17:08.42 | Msquared | I can't seem to work out how to enable sshd logging, which would at least let me troubleshoot further. |
| 17:08.58 | valdur55 | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/530 |
| 17:09.46 | valdur55 | developer MyDocs is symblinked to ~/MyDocs |
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| 17:10.25 | valdur55 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:11.46 | valdur55 | damn... it doesn't work :D |
| 17:12.56 | Msquared | I just "ssh-copy-id user@n9" from my laptop; all it did was to add a copy of the key that's already in authorized_keys. That only shows that I probably already had the key set correctly in the file. |
| 17:13.50 | Msquared | I've check and re-checked file permissions. I manage Linux machines for a living, so I've done all the usual checks, but I'm still lost. Last time I did this on my N9, this worked: http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/enable-ssh-usern950-public-key-authentication/ |
| 17:14.09 | Msquared | Now that doesn't work, and the instructions there for enabling sshd logging don't work, either. |
| 17:14.29 | Msquared | Can anyone work out how to get sshd logging working? At least I could get sshd to tell me what's wrong! |
| 17:15.07 | valdur55 | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/530 - i used this links |
| 17:16.10 | Msquared | There's nothing N9-specific there, and I'm sure this is N9-specific, since I've never had this much trouble getting password-less ssh logins to work... |
| 17:16.47 | valdur55 | login with keys isn't N9 specific |
| 17:17.09 | Msquared | I know that, but this problem whereby I can't login with the key might be. |
| 17:17.09 | valdur55 | first, you need archieve login with password |
| 17:17.27 | Msquared | I have achieved login with password. I have been saying this all along. |
| 17:17.45 | Msquared | That was indeed my first step. |
| 17:18.31 | Msquared | I'm not getting any information from the N9 to help me with my diagnostics; sshd is not logging anything to secure.log, so I don't know what to do next. |
| 17:18.48 | valdur55 | ok :) But then use: ssh-copy-id -i .ssh/id_rsa.pub user@n9 |
| 17:18.54 | Msquared | I've carefully checked the permissions on .ssh/ and authorized_keys, since I know sshd is very picky about that. |
| 17:19.21 | valdur55 | but, can you login to developer ? |
| 17:19.27 | Msquared | I used ssh-copy-id and all that did was make a second copy of my ssh key in authorized_keys; this shows me that I've probably done the right thing already. |
| 17:19.31 | Msquared | No, I can't log in to developer. |
| 17:19.41 | Msquared | However, I had this working before without logging in to developer. |
| 17:20.01 | Msquared | Maybe something changed between when I did this before and last week when I had to perform a factory reset. |
| 17:20.18 | Msquared | Let me try logging in as developer... |
| 17:20.44 | valdur55 | Use SDK Connection manager |
| 17:21.18 | Msquared | OK, I can now log in via ssh to developer@n9 |
| 17:21.33 | Msquared | I just set the password via passwd developer |
| 17:21.42 | Msquared | SDK connection manager? |
| 17:21.54 | valdur55 | :D For password :D |
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| 17:22.17 | Msquared | Meh, I've got the password working anyway. I just overrode it. :o) |
| 17:22.33 | valdur55 | so.. nevermind. ... But try archive passwordless login to developer. |
| 17:22.39 | Msquared | OK... |
| 17:23.12 | Msquared | Ummmm... when I log in as developer, I'm dropped into / rather than some /home folder. Is that right? |
| 17:23.32 | valdur55 | /home/developer |
| 17:24.59 | Msquared | It won't let me set the user to developer on the folder /home/developer |
| 17:25.00 | djszapiN9 | beford, sup |
| 17:25.03 | Msquared | (I'm trying as root) |
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| 17:27.06 | jabis | Msquared: could you please see what the following produces: cat /etc/passwd | grep /user:/ |
| 17:27.47 | jabis | if you see :!: or :!!: then you won't be able to login via keys |
| 17:28.21 | valdur55 | user:!:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh :P |
| 17:28.37 | jabis | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:28.40 | jabis | your pass |
| 17:28.50 | jabis | passwd -S -u user |
| 17:28.56 | jabis | give new pass |
| 17:29.06 | jabis | do that a few times |
| 17:29.11 | Msquared | jabis: user:qwertyqwerty:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh |
| 17:29.18 | Msquared | (note that I changed the password :) ) |
| 17:29.23 | jabis | yes |
| 17:29.33 | Piru | yep. everything moved to the new phone without issues |
| 17:30.04 | Piru | went much smoother than I thought |
| 17:30.29 | jabis | Msquared, after this: su user - |
| 17:30.47 | jabis | and passwd again using the user user :) |
| 17:30.56 | Msquared | ~ # su user - |
| 17:31.01 | Msquared | su: can't set groups: Operation not permitted |
| 17:31.29 | Msquared | Also, if I try "passwd -S -u user" then I get the help message |
| 17:31.53 | jabis | cool - different sh version |
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| 17:32.12 | jabis | well: passwd -u user then as devel-su - |
| 17:32.18 | Msquared | I'm running PR1.3 |
| 17:32.39 | jabis | remember to set the environment (devel-su -) |
| 17:32.48 | jabis | not just devel-su |
| 17:33.03 | Msquared | Oh, I didn't know you could add "-" on devel-su |
| 17:33.08 | Msquared | Hold on... |
| 17:33.28 | valdur55 | jabis, and what it gives? |
| 17:34.14 | Msquared | Oh, that's interesting. When I go "devel-su -" I get "mesg: Operation not permitted" at the end of the login message, and the prompt is different ("RM696-21-3_PR_005:~#") |
| 17:34.57 | jabis | yeh - the busybox-devel-su component is trying to execute some legacy command at the end of setting the environment (aegis stuff) |
| 17:35.21 | Msquared | "passwd -S -u user" still gives help message even if I go to root via "devel-su -" |
| 17:35.23 | jabis | valdur55, proper environment & elevates some needed perms |
| 17:35.44 | jabis | Msquared: drop the -S toggle - should be just as good with -u user as args |
| 17:36.32 | jabis | when you've set that one - just drop out of devel-su with ctrl+d to become the user again |
| 17:36.48 | jabis | whoami to confirm you're user not root :) |
| 17:36.57 | Msquared | jabis: Tried that; the help text goes away, and it says "Password changed." but it still asks for password when I ssh user@n9 |
| 17:37.13 | Msquared | jabis: which command must I run as user? |
| 17:37.30 | jabis | plain passwd |
| 17:37.35 | Msquared | OK |
| 17:38.13 | Msquared | Nope, still asking for password when I ssh. |
| 17:38.41 | Msquared | I really need to get sshd to tell me what the hell is going on... |
| 17:39.55 | Msquared | Maybe I can change "SyslogFacility AUTH" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config to something that will cause sshd's messages to show up in /var/log/syslog? Any idea? |
| 17:43.19 | jabis | also check the owner:group of /home/user/.ssh and it's contents user:users |
| 17:45.54 | Msquared | jabis: Already done. :) |
| 17:47.29 | Msquared | How can we troubleshoot Aegis? |
| 17:52.01 | jabis | gtg for a bit bb 40min |
| 17:52.10 | Msquared | OK |
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| 18:01.32 | Msquared | Argh! Fixed it! |
| 18:01.44 | Msquared | It was permissions. *hangs head in shame* |
| 18:02.02 | beford | on the n9? or the desktop? |
| 18:02.09 | Msquared | I checked .ssh and authorized_keys, but didn't check /home/user |
| 18:02.12 | Msquared | On the N9 |
| 18:02.17 | ZogG_laptop | djszapi: send me mail via jabber please |
| 18:03.33 | Msquared | I changed "SyslogFacility AUTH" to "SyslogFacility USER" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and rebooted, and presto! sshd log entries started showing up in /var/log/syslog |
| 18:04.04 | ZogG_laptop | beford: what have you done with pomodoro btw? |
| 18:04.34 | beford | ZogG_laptop: with what? :P I submitted it for the contest |
| 18:04.41 | ZogG_laptop | with same name? |
| 18:04.43 | Msquared | I have no idea why the syslog instructions at http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/10/enable-ssh-usern950-public-key-authentication/ don't work any more, but at least I have a workaround! |
| 18:04.57 | beford | ZogG_laptop: yea, I will probably have to rename it for the Ovi Store |
| 18:04.59 | beford | http://i.imgur.com/ktu91.png |
| 18:05.06 | beford | I added the "backgroud" message :P |
| 18:05.22 | Msquared | Oooh, a pomodoro timer for N9? |
| 18:05.34 | beford | yea, my submission for the coding contests |
| 18:05.41 | beford | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1263412 |
| 18:05.47 | beford | feedback is welcome :) |
| 18:09.04 | Msquared | Initial feedback: when I click on "resistor color code" in that post, I go to lights off... |
| 18:09.52 | beford | oops |
| 18:09.54 | beford | :P |
| 18:09.59 | Msquared | :) |
| 18:10.38 | Msquared | I like the icons. I think you could put clock hands on the tomato icon (kind of as if the seeds were minute markers or something) |
| 18:10.42 | Msquared | But that's just me. :o) |
| 18:11.40 | Msquared | Option I'd like: choose the direction that it adds pomodoros/breaks (last on top or last on bottom) |
| 18:11.57 | Msquared | I do like the icons. I instantly knew what each icon was for.... |
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| 18:12.23 | Msquared | Oh hey, it shows up a system alarm icon while a pomodoro or break is counting down. Neat! |
| 18:12.46 | beford | yea, its integrated with the system alarms that way you can lock the phone and it will sound |
| 18:12.56 | Msquared | Awww. My N9 just rebooted itself. :-( |
| 18:13.24 | beford | I *could* even allow you to shutdown the phone and the alarm should sound according to the documentation but I did not try that |
| 18:13.25 | Msquared | How can I get some debug info to send you to help you out? |
| 18:13.38 | beford | mm weird it should not reboot anything |
| 18:13.44 | beford | what PR are you using? |
| 18:14.01 | Msquared | PR1.3 |
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| 18:15.53 | beford | I can enable some debug output let me see |
| 18:16.03 | Msquared | Sure, go ahead. |
| 18:16.44 | Msquared | Hey, the pomodoro alarm just went off, even though the phone rebooted and the app wasn't running a clock. Neat! |
| 18:17.50 | Msquared | Ooooh! Idea! When the alarm goes off: instead of the "snooze" button, put break and pomodoro buttons! |
| 18:18.47 | beford | well that UI is from system I dont think I can change it, I will have to check the API |
| 18:19.27 | Msquared | Oh yeah... Maybe the only way to implement custom buttons is to implement your own alarm class, or something... |
| 18:20.17 | djszapiN9 | beford, sup |
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| 18:23.13 | rashm2k | In my app I have a single QML component used across the entire app (a loading screen) - how do I instantiate a single instance of this in QML and use it? |
| 18:24.08 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: instantiate it once |
| 18:24.10 | djszapi_ | and use it |
| 18:24.19 | djszapi_ | inside the main.qml for instance |
| 18:24.22 | djszapi_ | which is loaded from the cpp |
| 18:26.01 | Msquared | beford: When my phone rebooted, it was after I had started a pomodoro, a short break, a pomodoro, and another short break, each less than 30 seconds apart (ie: I didn't let any of them finish before I started another one) |
| 18:26.22 | Msquared | I'm trying the same thing again, but it appears to be working fine so far... |
| 18:27.04 | rashm2k | Will also work with QML pages I load using javascript openFile(....?) |
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| 19:13.44 | djszapi_ | rashm2k: yeah |
| 19:15.26 | rashm2k | It doesn't seem to be able to reference it inside a Connection component |
| 19:15.55 | rashm2k | quick question on QDateTime |
| 19:16.03 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i saw thedead14something had it, so u in touch with him? |
| 19:16.26 | ZogG_laptop | beford: make the button unselected(pomodoro) at launch as well |
| 19:16.49 | rashm2k | how I read in a ISO duration into a date time? |
| 19:16.51 | rashm2k | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Durations |
| 19:17.02 | rashm2k | And have this count down in QML? |
| 19:17.19 | rashm2k | i.e. count down seconds, minutes, hours, days |
| 19:17.49 | djszapi_ | you need to write a parser in javascript |
| 19:18.16 | djszapi_ | for the countdown, you need to timer, one for the second timer, and one for the usual. |
| 19:18.23 | djszapi_ | two timers* |
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| 20:26.32 | ZogG_laptop | beford: you are bad |
| 20:26.38 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: sup piggz |
| 20:26.55 | beford | hey |
| 20:26.56 | beford | why |
| 20:26.56 | beford | xD |
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| 20:35.19 | ZogG_laptop | beford: you disappear and never answer |
| 20:35.54 | beford | I changed computers sorry |
| 20:36.03 | beford | what did you ask ZogG_laptop ? |
| 20:36.12 | beford | I'm on the desktop now, had to start a vm |
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| 20:37.07 | ZogG_laptop | beford: why don't you set bouncer or use ssh to use same client? |
| 20:37.10 | ZogG_laptop | :P |
| 20:37.37 | ZogG_laptop | beford: i saw thedead14something had it, so u in touch with him? |
| 20:37.42 | ZogG_laptop | beford: make the button unselected(pomodoro) at launch as well |
| 20:37.56 | beford | need to get a server to put a bouncer there |
| 20:38.04 | beford | what happened to thedead? |
| 20:38.08 | beford | did the phone reboot too? |
| 20:41.14 | ZogG_laptop | reboot waht? |
| 20:41.18 | beford | not sure |
| 20:41.23 | beford | what are we talking about |
| 20:41.24 | beford | xD |
| 20:41.32 | ZogG_laptop | what phone reboot? and why too? |
| 20:41.39 | ZogG_laptop | i wonder if you in touch with him |
| 20:41.41 | beford | oh you mean, thedead has the pomodoro app from ovi store? |
| 20:41.57 | ZogG_laptop | he has your pomodoro app |
| 20:42.03 | ZogG_laptop | i saw on screenies |
| 20:42.16 | beford | ah good |
| 20:42.21 | ZogG_laptop | so i asked if you in touch with him as you gave him to test it before it was released |
| 20:42.29 | beford | he owes me 0.99 now |
| 20:42.38 | beford | no, he probably got it from the thread I suppose |
| 20:42.41 | ZogG_laptop | why would he? |
| 20:42.51 | beford | for using my app ? :P |
| 20:42.55 | ZogG_laptop | ooo |
| 20:43.01 | ZogG_laptop | you gonna sell it on ovi? |
| 20:43.10 | beford | I was kidding :P |
| 20:43.14 | ZogG_laptop | make it 0.01 cheaper than other pomodoro |
| 20:43.18 | ZogG_laptop | why not |
| 20:43.20 | beford | I will publish it but after the contest is over |
| 20:43.29 | ZogG_laptop | i would put it free to apps4meego and paid to ovi |
| 20:43.40 | ZogG_laptop | that's the way to go |
| 20:44.00 | ZogG_laptop | i don't sell my app in ovi only coz it's shitty and would be unfair. your app seems to be finished |
| 20:45.27 | beford | heh |
| 20:45.43 | beford | the Msquare guy bought one of my apps after he tested the Pomodoro one :P |
| 20:47.03 | ZogG_laptop | what app? |
| 20:47.07 | ZogG_laptop | what apps you sell |
| 20:49.42 | jpnurmi | grrr, hostile qDebug takeover by MComponentData |
| 20:49.43 | beford | he bought resistor code, and I have qstardict too |
| 20:50.11 | beford | oh and a small game |
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| 20:52.15 | piggz | lo ZogG_laptop |
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| 20:56.57 | ZogG_laptop | beford: u sell qstartdict |
| 20:57.15 | ZogG_laptop | firsst of all it was closed due license problems stardict i think |
| 20:57.26 | ZogG_laptop | second of all it's stardict |
| 20:57.47 | ZogG_laptop | and resistor code is yours? the one that shows the colours? |
| 20:58.05 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: how are you? |
| 20:58.39 | piggz | not bad :) looking on flea-bay for some shifters for my bike, not much coding tonight! |
| 20:59.46 | beford | ZogG_laptop, stardict was removed from sourceforge for the dictionaries I believe |
| 21:00.13 | ZogG_laptop | beford: delete your screenies of transmission from forum btw !!!! ASAP! |
| 21:00.21 | beford | meh :P |
| 21:00.33 | beford | breaking bad is a good show |
| 21:00.35 | ZogG_laptop | show it with some bubuntu or other free stuff |
| 21:00.55 | beford | hah ok I'll update them tonigh |
| 21:01.44 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: you tried square-it? |
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| 21:02.15 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: yes |
| 21:02.21 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: i have few suggestions there |
| 21:02.26 | piggz | go on |
| 21:02.32 | tripzero | anyone know if harmattan can run local web apps/widgets? |
| 21:02.44 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: 1) change colour for user as user turn in bottom is barely visible |
| 21:03.14 | ZogG_laptop | second add the game instructions as i didn't get what colours what |
| 21:03.33 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: yes, my plan was for a nice intro screen with instructions and animation |
| 21:03.35 | ZogG_laptop | 3rd i finished all the screen but it was still playing (no win or lose) - bug? |
| 21:04.18 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: btw single player would be nice, but it's AI we are talking about :P |
| 21:04.35 | piggz | erm, its a while since i played the non-internet version, but im sure it says Player X Wins, in a cool rotating/zooming animation |
| 21:05.22 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: i like the suggestion someone made for a 'lobby' of open internet games, so you didnt have to invite someone |
| 21:05.46 | piggz | also, i have to be careful about adding features until the coding comp voting is done |
| 21:06.38 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: it was local |
| 21:06.42 | ZogG_laptop | never played online |
| 21:07.02 | ZogG_laptop | i thought existing games are like a lobby where i see if there was someone who created game and waiting |
| 21:07.44 | piggz | it is, apart from it shows games you ahve created/been invited to ... there are no 'open' games |
| 21:08.06 | piggz | so, it would be dead simple to create an open game, then someone can join it later on |
| 21:08.41 | piggz | but i need email notifications, and i couldnt use my google account from node.js becuase google thought it was suspicous activity :) |
| 21:10.18 | piggz | i need something like sendgrid, but free ;) |
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| 21:12.37 | ZogG_laptop | why is that email thing needed? |
| 21:12.43 | ZogG_laptop | use push notifications :P |
| 21:14.58 | piggz | ah cool, i got google to accept the app login, obviously just a temporary thing :) ....... im not gonna learn the push notification system of every platform i release on :) |
| 21:15.46 | piggz | there will only be 2 emails...one when you create a game, the invitee will get em email, and when the invitee accepts or rejects, the inviter will get an email |
| 21:15.50 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: maybe it's easier than google thing |
| 21:15.58 | ZogG_laptop | i'm not checking mails if someone invites me :P |
| 21:18.19 | piggz | i guess the notifications api is similar to google cloud messaging? |
| 21:18.35 | piggz | bah, i cant be bothered .. email is the one true messaging system :) |
| 21:19.05 | ZogG_laptop | piggz: nope it's not |
| 21:19.11 | ZogG_laptop | let's use Fido |
| 21:19.17 | ZogG_laptop | or post mail |
| 21:19.21 | ZogG_laptop | or pigeouns :P |
| 21:19.50 | piggz | ZogG_laptop: rfc1149? |
| 21:22.06 | ZogG_laptop | wall drawings in the cave :P |
| 21:23.38 | piggz | i wonder if i can add email to the server and not call it a feature addition as it would need a client update :) |
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| 21:48.35 | piggz | later |
| 21:54.07 | ZogG_laptop | i got it running on linux |
| 21:54.08 | ZogG_laptop | ndk |
| 21:54.10 | ZogG_laptop | yaya |
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