IRC log for #harmattan on 20120919

00:10.23An_T_Eilean@ZogG_laptop It's not the headset, I'm using it with a Nokia Bluetooth Headset, a QED Bluetooth Receiver and a car hands free kit.  Each exhibit the same problem.  At first like you I suspected the signal strength especially in the car you don't know what kind of noise source you could be coming into proximity to but with both the headset and the QED I'm able to place the phone directly in contact with the receiving d
00:10.23An_T_Eileanproblem.  Also with noise there would at least be exhibited some form signal degradation as error correcting codes come into play.
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00:21.04befordsup ZogG_laptop
00:21.25befordgot your first BB application ready?
00:21.37befordI've not received any answer from Ash :/
00:21.44befordor whatever his name is
00:27.41An_T_EileanI heard a bleep which means my time is up.  I'm going to wish you all an enjoy time of day relevant to your locality.
00:28.34An_T_Eileans/enjoy/enjoyable
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02:01.46djszapi_beford: well, orientation is not resolved.
02:02.00djszapi_in addition touch is not used either.
02:02.23djszapi_plus it is a bit obsolete version.
02:02.30djszapi_there were changes since June.
02:06.23djszapi_also, do not forget: they use qt4 for nemo so they do not quite test it.
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03:20.37Sazpaimon_http://qt.digia.com/ this page warms my heart
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03:29.52djszapi_Sazpaimon_: and makes me a tad sad panda.
03:35.59befordThe Qt development framework was created in 1994 by a company called Trolltech. In 2008, Trolltech sold the Qt development framework to Nokia.
03:36.10befordI thought they bought the whole trolltech
03:36.50djszapi_yes, they are not contradictory.
03:37.18befordwell trolltech did not sell Qt to NOK
03:37.36djszapi_yes, they did.
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08:28.49Arkenoihey, does anyone has twitter .deb for n950? seems that mine is broken and i need to replace it..
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08:30.19RandomGuyOnBedHey guys, i'm running Meego Harmattan PR 1.3 on my N9 device, i want to forward my internet connection from my pc to my n9 via usb. I can ping my computer via ssh, but i cannot ping websites. Any reason for that?
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08:35.38djszapi_RandomGuyOnBed: have you followed the usb networking wiki?
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08:37.53RandomGuyOnBeddjszapi_: I guess so, if you mean this one: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Tips_and_Tricks/N900_USB_Networking
08:38.06RandomGuyOnBedHaven't found one for harmatten especially
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08:43.31mschlensRandomGuyOnBed: you want to use your PC's network connection through your N9?
08:43.45mschlensFor that you'll have forwarding enabled on your PC.
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08:44.23RandomGuyOnBedmschlens: No. I want to forward my internet connection from my pc to my n9. I don't have wlan here and a limited 3g connection :/
08:44.49mschlensN9 -> PC -> Internet?
08:45.11RandomGuyOnBedJup
08:45.25mschlensYeah, you'll need forwarding on your PC>
08:45.40mschlensBasically the steps on the PC should be the same as for the N900
08:46.34mschlens<PROTECTED>
08:46.35mschlens<PROTECTED>
08:46.42mschlensare the important steps in the doc
08:46.59mschlensyou'll obviously have to replace the IP with your PC's IP.
08:47.27djszapi_RandomGuyOnBed: yes, just follow those instructions. Should be working.
08:47.35djszapi_if it does not, start clearly from the beginning.
08:47.42RandomGuyOnBedWell i'm running windows here, so there is already a driver which handles the whole routing. At least it should ..
08:47.53djszapi_oh windows ...
08:48.19RandomGuyOnBedDon't hate me, hate my company :) I'd happier with arch
08:49.27mschlensRandomGuyOnBed: Windows 7 or XP?
08:49.39RandomGuyOnBedmschlens: 7
08:50.14RandomGuyOnBedOf course i installed the nokia linux RNDIS driver. I'm not that kind of newbie :)
08:50.58mschlenshttp://www.coretimer.com/windows/ip-forwarding-how-to-make-windows-7-as-a-router/
08:51.01mschlensDoes that help?
08:55.04Arkenoihttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86905 <- any ideas? could anyone please share working .deb for me?
08:55.13RandomGuyOnBedmschlens: Regedit? Seriously.. god damn windows. Rebooting now, brb :D
08:56.34mschlens*snrk*
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09:05.15MFaro-TusinoArkenoi: You need pr 1.3
09:05.59ArkenoiMFaro-Tusino, already installed. may be updating from n9 repository was a mistake, but how can i roll back without reflash?
09:06.45Arkenoii need .deb of oirginal twitter i guess
09:06.52Arkenoican anyone make one for me?
09:09.50MFaro-TusinoDid you flash 1.3, or was apt-get distro upgrade?
09:10.35MFaro-Tusinoeasiest way is remove n9 repo
09:10.40MFaro-Tusinoapt-get update
09:10.51MFaro-Tusinoapt-get --reinstall
09:10.59MFaro-Tusinosorry
09:11.11MFaro-Tusinoapt-get --reinstall install
09:11.20MFaro-Tusinofollowed by the package names
09:11.27MFaro-Tusinomake sense?
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09:20.57RandomGuyOnBedmschlens: well .. and again, nothing. Does it matter that my internet connection goes through a domain?
09:23.16mschlensNo idea. I don't know windows :)
09:24.11RandomGuyOnBedLooks like i don't know it either ..
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09:43.09niwakameRandomGuyOnBed: having problems with what?
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09:46.01RandomGuyOnBedniwakame: I want to share my internet connection from my pc onto my n9 device via usb
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09:46.13RandomGuyOnBedI can ping my computer and the gateway, but not the internet
09:46.57ZogG_laptopniwakame: sup my dudele
09:47.12niwakameYou have enabled ICS?
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09:48.07niwakameOr tried "bridge connections" via right mouse klick?
09:49.35niwakameZogG_laptop: fine, trashing my nexus 7 with apps B-)
09:49.44ZogG_laptopniwakame: i want playbook
09:51.03niwakameZogG_laptop: then buy one? It's cheap
09:51.10ArkenoiMFaro-Tusino, if i remove n9 repo, it cannot update twitter, says package is not available :-/
09:51.23RandomGuyOnBedniwakame: i tried bridging the connections, didn't help. What is ICS?
09:51.23Lava_Croftnexus7 is nice, apart from its os
09:52.00MFaro-Tusinowell apt-get remove
09:52.02Lava_CroftRandomGuyOnBed: Internet Connection Sharing
09:52.13MFaro-Tusinothen install
09:52.22niwakameInternet connection sharing. There should be something in properties of connection
09:52.59Lava_Croftall these abbreviations are confusing
09:53.05Lava_CroftIce Connection Sandwich?
09:53.12niwakamexD
09:53.12Lava_CroftInternet Cream Sharing? what?
09:53.48ArkenoiMFaro-Tusino, and i cannot apt-get remove because it says it depends on PR package :-/
09:54.05niwakameLava_Croft, being server admin. Tend to speak in abbrevs. Sorry ^^
09:54.25MFaro-Tusinouse N9 quick tweak to remove it then
09:54.26Lava_Croftniwakame: its not your fault at all, its the abbreviations fault!
09:54.45niwakameArkenoi: what are you doing there?
09:54.58niwakameLava_Croft: :-)
09:55.13Arkenoi(pr packege depends on it, actually)
09:55.40MFaro-TusinoTrust me
09:55.52MFaro-TusinoN9 Quick Tweak can remove it
09:56.02RandomGuyOnBedI tried sharing my connection, but sometimes i lost my internet connection on my pc then :/
09:56.07MFaro-TusinoI dont have stock twitter anymore
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09:56.33Arkenoi"Reinstallation of twitter-meego is not possible, it cannot be downloaded"
09:56.42Lava_Croftuh oh
09:56.51MFaro-Tusinomsg Arkenoi
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09:57.08MFaro-Tusinoderp
09:57.11niwakameRandomGuyOnBed: jep that's the downside. You don't have WiFi on your computer, huh?
09:57.20Arkenoihmm, will try to remove. but how can i reinstall then?
09:57.32niwakameUse tweetian
09:57.38niwakameO:-)
09:57.56RandomGuyOnBedniwakame: Nope, just my usb cable. ... well and a shitty 3g connection limited to 30kb ..
09:58.00Lava_Crofttwitter client wars! Qneptunea!
09:58.06Arkenoiniwakame, no pictures inline and no home screen feed :-(
09:58.16niwakameBattle mode on
09:58.26niwakame:-P
09:59.12niwakameQneptunea is also good. I think it's preference. But stock client is not that good for me
09:59.14Arkenoiwhich option of quicktweak should i use to remove it? QQ or AA?
10:00.42MFaro-TusinoTweetian
10:01.21RandomGuyOnBedniwakame: "PING www.google.de (2a00:1450:4016:800::1018): 56 data bytes" C:
10:01.38RandomGuyOnBedatleast this works now .. thank you guys :)
10:06.06niwakameNp
10:10.17ZogG_laptopniwakame: it's not cheap here :(
10:10.34ZogG_laptopMFaro-Tusino: i didn't find browser related stuff :(
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10:30.41MFaro-Tusinoall good mate
10:30.51MFaro-Tusinothx for looking
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11:08.06djszapiso Digia plans to lay off 88 people...
11:08.16djszapiand 89 got switched from Berlin and Oslo.
11:08.22djszapinot too unexpected, not too unexpected.
11:13.23RandomGuyOnBedniwakame: Well.. the connection works. apt-get fetches the packets pretty quick, but everything else like the browser still want to use an other connection. It shows me the select connection dialog .. any idea how to switch to usb0 ?
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11:18.56djszapihttp://www.kauppalehti.fi/etusivu/digia+aloittaa+yt-neuvottelut+suomessa/201209261331
11:19.13niwakameRandomGuyOnBed you could maybe do some fancy iptables routing...but then no. Search at tmo
11:23.11lucidodid anyone have any issues with n9 pr1.3 and nfc detection?
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11:27.35rzrHI
11:27.53rzrCan u please exec
11:28.08rzrls -l /etc/resolv.conf
11:28.16rzron device ?
11:28.33rzrand tell  me result
11:29.35lucidomoment
11:29.44djszapirzr: 644
11:29.49rzrthx
11:29.53djszapirw r r root:root
11:30.06rzrisnt a symlink
11:30.14djszapinope
11:32.11rzrmy dns is screwed
11:32.42rzror it may be the privider it s odd
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11:41.18lucidohow can I downgrade to pr1.2 (nfc detection stopped working)
11:42.07RandomGuyOnBedniwakame: creating an ad-hoc connection did it :)
11:42.47niwakameRandomGuyOnBed congrats :-)
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12:19.17ZogG_laptoplucido: u can't downgrade
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12:24.02djszapi_http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2012/09/linux-foundation-announces-automotive-grade-linux-workgroup
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12:25.15djszapi_interesting, so Tizen will be useful for something
12:28.03MFaro-Tusinoyou can downgrade
12:28.10MFaro-Tusinomethod isnt public yet
12:28.21MFaro-Tusinobut i know it CAN be done
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13:35.32ZogG_laptopMFaro-Tusino: you can't downgrade till you have keys
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13:36.12MFaro-TusinoI know, and there is one who apparently has them
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13:37.29ZogG_laptopand he left
13:37.34ZogG_laptopwho has the keys
13:37.38ZogG_laptoprzr: ^
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14:11.41thetetsorry
14:13.26Arkenoisuccessfully "downgraded" twitter (reinstalled from n950 repo) but it still does not work :-(
14:16.44ZogG_laptopArkenoi: mwahaha :P
14:17.57ArkenoiZogG_laptop, any better ideas what can i do?
14:20.57fralswhy are you downgrading twitter?
14:21.19Arkenoifrails it failed quite a strange way
14:21.44ZogG_laptopArkenoi: frals is twitter maintainer and probably dev :P
14:21.47Arkenoixsession/mtwitter main process terminated with status 1
14:21.53Arkenoiwow
14:22.03ZogG_laptop:P
14:22.04Arkenoithen he might have a clue on what that means :-)
14:22.22fralswhat happens if you run /usr/bin/twitter-qml from the terminal?
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14:23.57ArkenoiReferenceError: Can't find variable: messageview_refresh_after_sending
14:24.07fralsyeah thats fine
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14:24.19ArkenoiCRITICL: nnot found XDG_CACHE_HOME environment variable
14:24.27Arkenoioops sorry for typos
14:24.48fralsthats pretty cool
14:24.50Arkenoii cannot C&P because my wifi network has no direct connectivity to wired one
14:25.54fralswonder why you unset XDG_CACHE_HOME
14:26.03fralsand why we dont have a fallback in twitter
14:26.13fralsanyway export XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/user/.cache/
14:26.20fralsexport XDG_CACHE_HOME=/home/user/.cache
14:26.21fralseven
14:26.48ZogG_laptopinteresting if it solves
14:27.02ZogG_laptopfrals: found new job?
14:27.11fralsnot started looking yet
14:27.30fralsnot sure what i wanna do next ;(
14:27.44fralskinda hard to beat what i was doing at nokia
14:27.47ArkenoiAhha
14:28.05ZogG_laptopfrals: jolla?
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14:28.21Arkenoinot valid JSON data: blablabla .. Host api.twitter.com not found
14:28.31Arkenoiwonder how could it be possible
14:28.41Ariefrals: can you tell us what you did at nokia?
14:28.43fralsZogG_laptop: yeah maybe that, not sure if i want to work from home any longer though
14:28.58fralsArie: software stuff :D
14:29.05ZogG_laptopfrals: aren't you in Finland?
14:29.15fralsZogG_laptop: because finland sucks and im swedish :D
14:29.30ZogG_laptopfrals: my ex swedish :P
14:29.43fralsproblem is nokia was such a great place to work and you had access to all kinds of supercool shit
14:29.45ZogG_laptopfrals: but you cann contribute a lot
14:29.55fralsbasically a geeks dream ;D
14:30.08ZogG_laptopi think jolla should be like that
14:31.21fralsyeah, but then i dont want to work from home in stockholm, but i dont want to move from stockholm either... :D
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14:31.54ZogG_laptopyou have to make your mind
14:32.32ZogG_laptopbtw i still failed to use oauth lib from harmattan
14:32.35ZogG_laptopi made account
14:32.39Arkenoiahha
14:32.43ZogG_laptopbut no ide how to get token of it
14:32.47Arkenoino, it was a temporary glitch
14:33.03Arkenoiso XDG_CACHE_HOME appears to be the root of the problem
14:33.07ZogG_laptopfrals: so my request of simple examples fro those things if you have time still relevant :P
14:33.09Arkenoionce i set it everything works
14:33.26ZogG_laptopArkenoi: good :P
14:33.27Arkenoibut -- where is the point it could be missing from environment?
14:33.36Arkenoihow do I set it system-wide?
14:33.43ZogG_laptopyou made something wrong/ one of apps you use did it
14:33.49fralsyou must have installed something/messed with something to remove it :)
14:33.54ZogG_laptopexport sets it system wide
14:34.04ZogG_laptopi think there is some file that has those env settings
14:34.13ZogG_laptopand i think it's somewhere on TMO
14:34.24ArkenoiZogG_laptop, export sets it in current shell and everything that is spawned from it
14:34.33ZogG_laptoptry to search "tracker bug gallery" or something
14:34.48Arkenoiok will try to find
14:34.59ZogG_laptopArkenoi: you can set it in bash or what it is used on N9
14:35.10Arkenoibusybox
14:35.18ZogG_laptopbut again there is file with those settings and it reads it i guess at boot or something
14:35.26Arkenoibut i need to set it in some profile script that is loaded on startup
14:36.28ZogG_laptopArkenoi: i think script is there, you need to find this file and check if it's correct there
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14:39.01Arkenoitrying to find
14:39.18Arkenoican you grep your common locations for this variable?
14:39.44Arkenoilike, say grep -r XDG_CACHE_HOME /etc
14:40.48fralsArkenoi: /etc/skel/.profile:export XDG_CACHE_HOME="$HOME/.cache"
14:42.36Arkenoihmm
14:42.54Arkenoii thought skel just gets copied to new users homes
14:43.01Arkenoiand not being used directly
14:43.07Arkenoilike /etc/profile
14:43.27fralsonly place in etc it is, and then i have exact copy of it in ~/.profile
14:43.41fralsso /home/user/.profile should have it as well
14:44.17Arkenoiseems that I do not have ~/.profile at all
14:44.26Arkenoicould you please pastebin it?
14:44.41ZogG_laptopArkenoi: i bet it would be same as /etc/profile
14:44.57fralsyeah give me a sec, need to tunnel shits to c/p
14:45.27fralshmm actually
14:45.30fralsim using RD image
14:45.36fralsbut i guess it should be same as in sales
14:45.41Arkenoimore likely to be copy of /etc/skel/.profile that /etc/profile because /etc/profile is system-wide and there is no need to copy it
14:45.57fralshttp://pastebin.com/vWE6ZfVG
14:46.22Arkenoiyes, exactly the one in skel
14:46.34Arkenoiok, will try to reboot now and see if it gets fixed
14:48.55Arkenoiperfect!
14:49.08fralsworking again ye?
14:49.22Arkenoiwill now see if n9 repository has newer one and if it is any better than this :-)
14:50.39Arkenoistill wonders why Nokia locked harmattan in portrait mode.. Nearly all application work perfectly in landscape..
14:50.48Arieyes, they do
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14:55.35kimjuArkenoi, nearly all, nearly perfectly.
14:56.56ZogG_laptopfrals: oh btw wanted to ask about ur headsets
14:57.06ZogG_laptopthe nokia ones
14:57.11ZogG_laptopi saw ur tweetes
14:57.20Arkenoikimju, any glitches worth noticing?
14:57.22ZogG_laptophow they are with n9?
14:57.28fralsZogG_laptop: which ones? :D
14:57.43fralsbh-905i or the monster purity whatever they are called?
14:57.48Arkenoiwonders what could kill my ~/.profile
14:57.59ZogG_laptopfrals: i think first ones
14:58.05ZogG_laptopwhat are the second
14:58.10fralsbluetooth ones with active noise cancellation?
14:58.27fralswired headphones that were released with lumia iirc
14:58.28ZogG_laptopyes
14:58.32kimjuArkenoi, at least few programs don't fit the whole ui in landscape mode and lack scrolling.
14:58.36fralsthe bluetooth ones works great
14:58.37ZogG_laptopnot wired
14:58.57fralsonly issue is sometimes (as with all bt) it buffers if there is lots of io going on in device
14:59.03ZogG_laptopfrals: no lags/glitches? how is battery life of both
14:59.15fralslike for example when mfe decides to sync everything
14:59.18ZogG_laptopso buffers are laggs?
14:59.23fralsyeah lags/glitches
14:59.34kimjuArkenoi, and minor glitcher here and there. facebook app, the weather app etc..
14:59.37fralsbut not that bad imo, only got it when i had a huge mfe sync starting in the morning
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15:00.07fralsdunno, it lasted for calls without problems for me (not a big talker thou) and i could go a couple of day with a few hours of music without charging them
15:00.21fralsdidnt really notice any diff on device as i was charging it daily anyway when i used them
15:00.32fralssince im mostly at home now i dont need to use them anymore :D
15:00.49fralsbut i wouldnt buy them now thou, the huge draw back for me is they are not covering the ears
15:01.01fralsso they are not that comfortable for extended use
15:01.12ZogG_laptopnot comfy on the go?
15:01.30ZogG_laptoppitty we don't have those here as we don't have nokia shops
15:01.46kimjuArkenoi, nothing really major after they fixed the launcher icons not getting drawn in landscape mode (that fix got released with pr1.1, iirc)
15:01.54fralsi tried the new monster ones nokia is releasing which are bt and active noise cancellation and over-ear
15:02.03ZogG_laptopand it would be too expensivve to me to order as well as not trying them on before and chanse of getting not nokia ones but nokla's :)
15:02.08fralsthey seemed awesome, but they are prolly expensive as fuck
15:02.28ZogG_laptopfrals: aren't 950i noise cancelling?
15:02.36fralsthey are
15:02.46ZogG_laptopi lost track of which one u talk about :P
15:02.58fralsi was talking about the 905i until the last 2 lines ;)
15:03.29ZogG_laptopso they are not monster ones which one are than?
15:03.33Arkenoifrals, there is still no way to manually associate a twitter person to a contact card? there seems to be some kind of heuristics but it does not always work properly
15:03.47phakono manual way
15:03.54ArkenoiI also have several persons with similar names in my phone book and they get associated incorrectly
15:04.02fralsZogG_laptop: the ones i tried today is http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=6547 i think
15:04.32ZogG_laptopdon't like look
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15:04.59fralshttp://www.slashgear.com/nokia-purity-pro-wireless-headphones-arrive-ahead-of-wp8-lumias-03245705/
15:05.13ZogG_laptopand no idea of that firm
15:05.30fralsthey sell expensive cables to retards iirc
15:06.31ZogG_laptopcables like as addition option?
15:07.02ZogG_laptopto plug in when mfe is going to sync
15:11.56Ariefrals: youre saying monster is overpriced?
15:16.52fralsArie: yeah :P
15:17.46ZogG_laptopfrals: how are new lumias?
15:18.46Ariefrals: so dont buy them?
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15:28.53fralsarie: im not :p
15:29.03fralsZogG_laptop: 920 hw is really nice at least
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16:53.10valdur55sup
16:53.37valdur55djszapi_, how it's going ?
16:53.46djszapi_valdur55: sorry very busy atm
16:53.55valdur55djszapi_, no problem
16:56.13befordvery busy doing what djszapi_
16:56.20befordxD
16:56.38befordvoting for coding contest just started !
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16:57.20djszapi_beford: satisfying the demanding need of the customer ...
16:57.28befordawesome
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17:03.10Ariedoes anyone know how to start the music player from terminal?
17:03.14Arieto debug it?
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17:35.22Lava_CroftChris Weber ‏@CWeberatNokia
17:35.22Lava_CroftInstead of changing a product name, we’re changing the game with benefits like PureView, nav & wireless charging #Lumia920
17:35.26Lava_Croftfacepalms
17:43.33Lava_Crofthaha http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/10/3307317/nokia-nexus-the-impossible-dream
17:48.58rzrnitdroid ?
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17:55.30piggzright...now to make a heart rate monitor using only the camera and flash ....
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18:47.18lucidodoes pr1.3 have the google protocol buffer library?
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18:56.22lucidorzr, what repo has the protobuf library?
18:57.12djszapi_lucido: there is a search field on the c-obs
18:57.25djszapi_https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=protobuf&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan
18:58.33lucidoonly for harmattan 1.2
18:59.22djszapi_nope
18:59.59lucidohmm?
19:01.17djszapi_not only for harmattan 1.2
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