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00:10.31DEAD_BEEFany chance of ever getting meego to run on the lumia 920?
00:11.58DEAD_BEEFor would it even be worth it?
00:16.03DEAD_BEEFit's so big!
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03:34.23djszapi_interesting that you need to pay for everything in case ryanair, even a check-in is up to 20-120 EUR.
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08:10.57djszapi_jonni: ping
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09:09.25lucidohow can I install packages from rzr's repo
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11:02.41e-yesis u-boot available for n9?
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11:05.28MFaro-Tusinoe-yes: no
11:05.37MFaro-Tusinobut there is a similar gui
11:05.41MFaro-Tusinobooting tool
11:06.42e-yescan it boot different kernel?
11:08.46MFaro-Tusinoi think so
11:08.57MFaro-Tusinohe used it to multiboot nemp
11:09.01MFaro-Tusino*nemo
11:09.09MFaro-Tusinoharmattan
11:09.21MFaro-Tusinoand sshd
11:09.31MFaro-Tusinowait, not nemo, nitdroid
11:09.42MFaro-Tusinowhich will help you
11:09.49MFaro-Tusinoi will get link
11:11.05MFaro-Tusinoe-yes: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=86775
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11:16.52e-yesMFaro-Tusino, it can't change kernel, but thanks anyway
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11:18.11MFaro-Tusinodamn :( port u-boot then ;)
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14:19.46saidinesh5hey fellas
14:20.15saidinesh5just a quick question, how would i get more priviliges to my app, which wants to try to modify /etc/hosts ?
14:20.26saidinesh5i cant seem to find the right term to google for this
14:20.28djszapiN9saidinesh5, fellas cannot be found in this channel. :)
14:20.34saidinesh5hehehe
14:21.06saidinesh5so djszapiN9 any idea? :P
14:21.17djszapiN9tried as root?
14:21.29djszapiN9checked if it is refhashed?
14:21.40saidinesh5djszapiN9: the thing is i want to make an app which does that
14:21.57saidinesh5i mean which keeps updating the hosts file
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14:22.06djszapiN9that is not what I asked. ;)
14:22.15saidinesh5Ah lol
14:22.21saidinesh5googles what refhashed is
14:22.41djszapiN9well just try as root first
14:23.15saidinesh5but how do i launch the app as root?
14:23.18Khertan_workosc commit : Looks as if you need to update it first.
14:23.18Khertan_workosc pull : Please commit your local changes first!
14:23.18Khertan_workHaha ... osc resolve recursion  ... maybe ?
14:23.20djszapiN9and if it works, check whether it is in the refhashlist.
14:23.21Khertan_work:)
14:23.25saidinesh5oh
14:23.59djszapiN9you request root uid for your executable in the manifest file.
14:24.42djszapiN9hmm, that may be unallowed actually.
14:24.48saidinesh5oh?
14:24.56djszapiN9but I think it can work.
14:25.02djszapiN9well try :-)
14:25.32saidinesh5hehe okay
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14:26.26saidinesh5thanks :)
14:27.15djszapiN9develsh can get root
14:27.27djszapiN9so ovi apps should also be able yo do so.
14:27.34djszapiN9to*
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14:36.12djszapi_jpnurmi: please wait the harmattan patch
14:36.20djszapi_I think it is wrong, but I do not currently have time to explain.
14:36.23djszapi_I can do that tonight.
14:36.30djszapi_with*
14:38.16jpnurmidjszapi_: sure, that's why i added you as a reviewer :)
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15:06.33jonnidjszapi_: pong
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15:22.48djszapi_jpnurmi: the problem is with usb hostmode.
15:22.53djszapi_jpnurmi: you can have cursor
15:23.08djszapi_so it is not like the window alternative that you brought up
15:23.11djszapi_windows*
15:23.18djszapi_unless you have inception there.
15:23.22djszapi_but not open mode for sure.
15:23.27djszapi_so I consider them different cases.
15:23.32jpnurmidjszapi_: ok
15:23.42jpnurmigotta re-think it then
15:24.09djszapi_jpnurmi: usb hostmode had limitations on Harmattan
15:24.15djszapi_jpnurmi: but it is actually doable.
15:24.52djszapi_jpnurmi: I was consider previously a patch for haveMouseCursor
15:24.54djszapi_to return true.
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15:25.04djszapi_jpnurmi: the mouse cursor will be provided by X.
15:25.14djszapi_not by a platform plugin like in some other cases.
15:25.20djszapi_at least the symbol.
15:25.29djszapi_jonni: forgot what I wanted to ask hehe.
15:25.58jpnurmidjszapi_: i guess that's the problem, because the tests are actually comparing cursor shapes
15:26.20jpnurmijust gotta use something else than QT_NO_CURSOR for skipping those
15:26.41djszapi_let me leave a comment
15:26.44djszapi_so food for thoughts
15:26.47jpnurmiin any case, i want to cleanup that haveMouseCursor() thingy
15:26.50djszapi_I need to leave now unfortunately.
15:26.54jpnurminp, laters
15:27.01djszapi_ok that sounds more reasonable to me.
15:27.13djszapi_unless you have a blocker issue with cursor I would not drop that feature.
15:30.17djszapi_jonni: ah I recall!
15:30.41djszapi_jonni: do you know how I could get the maps in Italy and Switzerland now over the 3g internet on my N9?
15:31.05djszapi_I will be traveling tomorrow, and I think it is not the best to get those while roaming. :-)
15:31.18djszapi_but the maps application does not allow me to get those either over my 3g internet.
15:31.33djszapi_can I download those maps offline, and inject to the proper place on my phone, if it works that way at all?
15:33.47jonnidjszapi_: yes you can download forexample country variant emmc file and extract the maps to emmc drive.
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15:34.14jonnidjszapi_: or actually pc suite should work too... havent tested though
15:34.15djszapi_jonni: do you have an url schema that I can download at the company?
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15:34.23djszapi_or perhaps I could use the usb networking on Windows for now?
15:34.27djszapi_from the company pc?
15:34.37djszapi_or is it simpler to fire up on Linux inside virtualbox?
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15:46.51jonnidjszapiN9: http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maps-Navigation-and-GPS/newest-Nokia-Ovi-Maps-0-1-25-114-manual-download/m-p/778870
15:47.14jonnidjszapiN9: but you have easier times if you use pc suite or find wlan somewhere :)
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15:50.04jonnidjszapiN9:  http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1207/0318/7076780164/030AF44E_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.ALPS_EMMC_ALPS.bin
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16:04.28rzrfire the burning platform
16:09.34ZogG_laptopjonni is not nokian anymore :P
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16:36.55ArieVesuri: ~ping
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18:07.12djszapi_jonni: what was the second bin about?
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18:12.26jonnidjszapi_: that was just swizz N9 emmc image where you could extract the maps also.
18:12.56djszapi_jonni: http://static.s2g.gate5.de/map5/maploaderzip-00.01.25.114/35216.zip
18:13.02djszapi_so where do I need to extract this to?
18:13.21jonnidjszapi_: no idea, I have not downloaded from gate5
18:13.44djszapi_well it is from your former link.
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18:13.50jonnistore.ovi.com seems down atleast for me...
18:14.42djszapi_can second that
18:14.49jonnidjszapi_: easiest way 1. use wlan, 2. use pc suite, 3. extract from bin. 4. from gate5 (and I have no idea about gate5 links)
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18:15.08djszapi_extract to where?
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18:16.52jonni/home/user/MyDocs/cities
18:19.50djszapi_jonni: the bin is 1.6 GB LOLZ
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18:41.41ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: you use pulse? how is it?
18:42.52Sfiet_Konstantinwell
18:43.00Sfiet_Konstantinlike whatsapp
18:43.04Sfiet_Konstantin(wazapp)
18:43.11Sfiet_Konstantinbut more privative
18:43.18Sfiet_KonstantinI mean, conservative on your data
18:43.31Sfiet_Konstantinyou don't expose it to everybody knowing your phone number
18:43.41Sfiet_Konstantinthe added features are "useless" (like share location)
18:43.50Sfiet_Konstantinbut quite a nice addition to whatsapp and co
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18:45.49dekayhi
18:46.16dekayuser questions to nokia phones here welcome?
18:47.58ZogG_laptopdon't ask to ask
18:48.02ZogG_laptopjust ask
18:48.07rashm2kprobably not dekay
18:48.08ZogG_laptopif someone can answer he would
18:48.14rashm2kthis is a dev channel
18:48.24ZogG_laptoprashm2k: who said that?
18:48.36ZogG_laptopA place for harmattan device and development discussions
18:48.36rashm2kI just thought it was
18:48.44ZogG_laptopboth
18:48.50ZogG_laptopdekay: anyway ask
18:49.38dekaywell, i want to change a setting in my lumia 800! there is a tut explained how to change lumia to have it as mass storage http://lovemynokia.com/simple-trick-to-enable-usb-mass-storage-mode-in-lumia-800/
18:49.45dekaythis is what id like to do..
18:49.51rashm2klol
18:50.15dekayi just heard some various ways to achieve
18:52.44dekaymy actually question would be: what is the safe way to make my lumia as mass storage without loosing guarantee
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19:05.27djszapi_like cloning that original image and then change the Y Cr Cb etc... a bit ...
19:05.45djszapi_sorry, wrong windows.
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19:41.53piggzany tips for this....its posible to pass a qml object to C++ as a QDeclarativeitem* by using its ID....but, how can i do that if the object is created dynamically?  afaict, if i assign the object to a javascript var and pass with that, i just get a null pointer at the C++ end
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20:11.31ZogG_laptopdekay: only haarmattan though related questions
20:11.35ZogG_laptopnot all okia
20:12.00ZogG_laptopbut n9/n950 or other obile qt interesting related things, but mostly harmattan :P
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21:36.27djszapi_jpnurmi: ping
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22:53.48HtheBanybody has a solution for my flashing problem?
22:53.55HtheBcant flash a N9
22:54.11HtheBalthough I flashed some other n9's
22:54.17HtheBcant flash one particulair one
22:54.32HtheBit just stays stuck on
22:55.34HtheBhttp://pastebin.com/ak1TLZuR
22:55.44HtheBhope someone can help me
22:57.49befordwhat firmware are you trying to flash
22:57.55befordfull name
22:58.12HtheBflasher.exe -F DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LE GACY_006-OEM1-958_ARM.bin -f --erase-mmc
22:58.21HtheBpsaed the command :p
22:58.26HtheBpasted*
22:59.15HtheBignore the space bewetten LE GACY (pasting issue over here)
22:59.17befordyea, but I thought that version was the current one on the phone
22:59.37beforddo you know what is the current version of the flashed image?
22:59.56njsfHtheB: the other N9s you flashed was on the same computer ?
23:00.27HtheBno
23:00.29HtheBto be honest
23:00.44HtheBI try to help a friend (from Teamviewer)
23:00.50HtheBand somehow, it didnt work on his laptop
23:00.58HtheBtold me that he also tried a different pc
23:00.59HtheBsame problem
23:01.30njsfok. does the n9 show the usb symbol on boot when connected ?
23:01.34HtheBIt shows the "nokia n9 update rom" just for a second (windows tries to install the drivers) but then it says device unplugged
23:01.51HtheBwhich means afaik that the device already went to boot harmattan
23:02.16njsfHmmm Windows x64 ?
23:02.33HtheByes
23:02.34HtheBw7
23:02.45HtheBbut I also use w7 x64 myself
23:02.48HtheBand it just work
23:02.54njsfok
23:03.40djszapi_the sgx stuff is from Imagination Technologies?
23:04.13djszapi_ah indeed
23:04.51HtheBany advice on how to solve this problem guys?
23:05.25HtheBI even disabled the automatic online driver lookup
23:05.28djszapi_rzr: heading soon to Dublin
23:05.30djszapi_and then Milano
23:05.35djszapi_and the Swiss mountains finally :-
23:05.37djszapi_)
23:06.30njsfHtheB: try with -v see if it logs any clues on a new attempt ?
23:06.56HtheBlet me try
23:06.58HtheBhang on
23:10.09HtheBnjsf: nope, nothing new at all
23:10.43njsfwhat does flasher -i show ?
23:11.23njsfit seems like somehow that N9 has unstable USB
23:11.46njsfdoes it boot normally in his current image and you can access the data there ?
23:12.18HtheBit boots normally at the moment
23:12.21HtheByeah
23:13.04HtheBlet me get the info with 0i
23:13.06HtheB-i
23:13.08njsfok
23:13.28njsfthis is just to see if the USB connection with flasher is working...
23:13.41njsfyou may want to reinstall flasher then reboot windows ?
23:13.48HtheBSuitable USB interface (bootloader/phonet) not found, waiting... Found device RM-696, hardware revision 1603 NOLO version 2.3.6 Version of 'sw-release': DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_006 Success
23:13.53HtheBjust as before
23:14.06njsfahhh
23:14.11njsfthat looks a bit different
23:14.41njsfah no, then after ape-algo it doesn't find it anymore...
23:14.42njsfhmmm
23:14.57njsfdid you try with -F ..  -f -R too ?
23:14.59njsfjust for kicks
23:15.34HtheByeah
23:15.38HtheBlet me try again though :P
23:15.48HtheBaltought that should be only adding a reboot at the end
23:15.58njsfyes, I know
23:17.33njsfdid you always try with the --erase-mmc ? or you get same behavior without?
23:17.37HtheBno luck
23:18.24njsfok, I'm out of ideas sorry
23:18.40HtheBsame as without --erase-mmc
23:18.45njsfmaybe searching and re-reading flashing threads on TMO might help ?
23:18.53njsfsometimes there are hidden nuggets there
23:18.59HtheBI shuold try it myself on a different laptop
23:19.01njsfOr start a new thread there
23:19.15njsfOr a different cable
23:19.18HtheBthe only idea left
23:19.39njsfjust to eliminate all the variables possible
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