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| 08:11.23 | vladest | how to make qtcreator 2.6 recognize qnx includes? |
| 08:11.28 | vladest | I've added includepath but it doesnt works it seems |
| 08:11.34 | vladest | or any includes? |
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| 09:38.49 | rzr | djszapi, hi saw my email in qtonpi list ? |
| 09:40.46 | beford | sup |
| 09:42.30 | djszapi | rzr: yes, but you did not send it to the list |
| 09:42.51 | djszapi | also, I am busy with an amazon offline coding test task :) |
| 09:42.54 | djszapi | laters |
| 09:43.26 | djszapi | rzr: I have just forwarded your email to the list. |
| 09:47.14 | rzr | ok mistake |
| 09:48.01 | rzr | today I'll try to rebuild your packages |
| 09:48.09 | rzr | are they stable now ? |
| 09:48.20 | djszapi | which packages? |
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| 09:51.39 | rzr | qt5 along respian ones |
| 09:51.55 | rzr | there is not specific harmattan stuff in it , isnt it ? |
| 09:52.15 | djszapi | there is of course |
| 09:52.53 | rzr | in your patches ? |
| 09:52.57 | djszapi | no |
| 09:53.04 | djszapi | Qt has different plugins for different platforms obviously. |
| 09:53.09 | rzr | yes |
| 09:53.12 | djszapi | so you need to build qt with different profiles. |
| 09:53.22 | djszapi | harmattan one is built with N9 device profile. |
| 09:53.28 | djszapi | one needs to add a huge switch stuff |
| 09:53.34 | rzr | where to tune that ? |
| 09:53.35 | djszapi | to branch according to the detected platform |
| 09:53.51 | djszapi | rzr: qt5-base/debian/rules |
| 09:54.05 | rzr | that was where i planned to look |
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| 09:56.38 | djszapi | rzr: but I am planning to update those packages tomorrow anyways |
| 09:56.42 | rzr | ok |
| 09:56.47 | djszapi | rzr: and those packages will only work with scratchbox |
| 09:56.49 | rzr | then tell me once it;s ok |
| 09:56.54 | djszapi | or native builds. |
| 09:57.10 | djszapi | you can already experiment today with if/elseif stuff |
| 09:57.19 | djszapi | but there is a bug in qmake |
| 09:57.23 | djszapi | or missing feature |
| 09:57.27 | djszapi | depends on the point of view |
| 09:57.36 | djszapi | which does not allow us to make cross-build packages anymore |
| 09:57.37 | rzr | i am testing on current sources |
| 09:57.48 | djszapi | it will only work with non cross-compilation, but native build or emulation. |
| 09:57.49 | rzr | what a regression |
| 09:57.59 | djszapi | not a regression |
| 09:58.05 | djszapi | it has never worked |
| 09:58.11 | rzr | anyway who is cross compiling now ? |
| 09:58.29 | djszapi | well all the application developers using MADDE and/or QtCreator. |
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| 09:59.06 | djszapi | but I have to focus on this coding test |
| 09:59.07 | djszapi | laters |
| 10:02.21 | rzr | ok |
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| 10:37.37 | Hurrian | quick question, does the N9 regenerate its /etc/fstab? |
| 10:37.47 | Hurrian | I'd like to test performance with data=writeback enabled. |
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| 13:13.17 | Hurrian | anyone able to scan chipped passports with their N9s? |
| 13:18.35 | Tronic | I think I was able to activate levels on Angry Birds with that but NFC apps don't react in any way. |
| 13:19.03 | Tronic | Quite possibly this has changed with OS upgrades. |
| 13:20.01 | Tronic | Because I was playing with NFC only on PR1.1 or so, and noticed after a long while of not doing it that I cannot read tags with PR1.3. |
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| 14:29.16 | jonni | Hurrian: my N9 detects nfc on passport just fine. But passport tag is encrypted so you cannot 'read' it a such, but you can open angry birds levels with your passport. |
| 14:30.08 | Hurrian | jonni, meh, my N9 doesn't even do the NFC beep. |
| 14:30.56 | jonni | Hurrian: have you enabled nfc from the settings? :) by default its disabled |
| 14:31.23 | jonni | and N9 opens my self created url tags on PR1.3 just fine :) |
| 14:32.13 | Hurrian | yeah, enabled it. Haven't checked with anything else, I have not found any NFC/RFID tags to tap on. |
| 14:32.59 | jonni | heh, maybe you should order some empty ones from ebay, they are like 1e a piece. |
| 14:34.23 | jonni | ncf is quite useless anyways, after playing with url tags for few days, I didnt find any use for it, and now I have bunch of unused tags lying in my desk drawer. |
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| 15:11.27 | rashm2k | whats the max size of a shared libraries |
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| 16:01.09 | vladest | nice. harmattan the only target, doesnt rebuilds qrc in case of changing qml, stored in resorces |
| 16:03.53 | merlin1991 | vladest: i noticed that while hacking on the sdk conectivity tool |
| 16:04.13 | merlin1991 | you need to touch at least one *code* file so that it rebuilds the qrc |
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| 16:06.43 | vladest | merlin1991: well, this is not very useful |
| 16:07.48 | merlin1991 | vladest: it's enough to simply run "touch somecodefile" for the build process to rebuild the qrc |
| 16:14.59 | vladest | yes, this is w/o |
| 16:15.41 | vladest | any1 knows why qtcreator doesnt parses includes from INCLUDEPATH? |
| 16:16.08 | rashm2k | do you set INCLUDEPATH += |
| 16:16.14 | rashm2k | and not just = |
| 16:16.37 | vladest | yes, I've set + |
| 16:16.40 | vladest | yes, I've set += |
| 16:17.17 | vladest | its qtcreator 2.6 |
| 16:17.41 | rashm2k | it should do then - try Build -> run qmake |
| 16:17.56 | rashm2k | and try clean - close qt creator and then re-open |
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| 17:06.02 | rashm2k | lol it takes me 30mins to compile one library it's nuts |
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| 17:07.55 | merlin1991 | rashm2k: try compiling qt4 ;) |
| 17:07.59 | merlin1991 | or openssl |
| 17:08.11 | shanttu | damn our device. yesterday i saved a .txt file to dropbox and downloaded it to n9. had to read that on nano =) |
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| 17:32.16 | arcean | shanttu: you could always end up with cat file.txt :D |
| 17:37.02 | shanttu | arcean, yep =) |
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| 17:52.02 | rashm2k | there IS a txt reader |
| 17:52.37 | rashm2k | personally I think the N9 is a step back from my N900 - the N900 just had something that the N9 simply doesnt |
| 18:00.57 | valdur55 | N9 document viewer can open with Document Viewer |
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| 18:09.19 | vladest | rashm2k: did not help |
| 18:15.27 | rashm2k | what header files are you trying to include? |
| 18:15.49 | rashm2k | includepath normally just works - never had any issues with it |
| 18:16.09 | rashm2k | you just need to make sure that the path is relative to where the .pro file is |
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| 18:24.30 | mschr | heya |
| 18:24.40 | mschr | any1 else having problems with pop mail client? |
| 18:27.25 | vladest_ | rashm2k: its absolute path of bb ndk |
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| 18:27.32 | teleshoes | hey |
| 18:27.52 | teleshoes | can anyone send me the md5sum of the best firmware and emmc images? |
| 18:28.27 | teleshoes | pr1.3, global, unbranded, wifi hotspot not crippled, no maps, etc |
| 18:30.40 | teleshoes | i had been using the malaysian 005 variant like a good boy {my dear departed n9 was from malaysian} |
| 18:30.44 | teleshoes | and now i have a new device and want to do it right |
| 18:31.01 | teleshoes | oh yea, 64gb |
| 18:31.50 | teleshoes | theres 64GB Global Black Swap |
| 18:32.00 | teleshoes | and 64GB Row Black |
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| 18:37.33 | ZogG_laptop | sup |
| 18:38.00 | teleshoes | hello zogg |
| 18:38.15 | teleshoes | do you happen to know whether 'global' or 'row' is the variant i want? |
| 18:39.36 | ZogG_laptop | depends |
| 18:39.39 | teleshoes | ok |
| 18:39.43 | ZogG_laptop | on what version you have |
| 18:39.43 | teleshoes | this is what i want: n9, 64gb, pr1.3, unbranded, 001, nomaps |
| 18:39.49 | ZogG_laptop | what country and what you want |
| 18:39.55 | ZogG_laptop | i would prefer global |
| 18:39.58 | teleshoes | me too |
| 18:40.21 | ZogG_laptop | but it depends on what FW u currently on |
| 18:40.40 | teleshoes | yea i know; i used to use my country code {malaysia}, and delete the maps |
| 18:40.46 | teleshoes | but this is a new device! |
| 18:41.10 | ZogG_laptop | teleshoes: what FW are you on? |
| 18:41.15 | teleshoes | i THINK |
| 18:41.18 | teleshoes | pr1.3 001 |
| 18:41.24 | ZogG_laptop | oh |
| 18:41.28 | ZogG_laptop | just check it |
| 18:41.45 | ZogG_laptop | not sure if it's in info |
| 18:42.08 | teleshoes | i dont know where it is, or how i would check i |
| 18:42.13 | teleshoes | flasher might tell me |
| 18:42.16 | ZogG_laptop | but if you have 001 it should be meta package harmattan-001 or something as well as repos |
| 18:42.26 | teleshoes | ah good point! |
| 18:42.37 | ZogG_laptop | lemme check for you in few mins |
| 18:42.46 | ZogG_laptop | just got home from weekend on the sea :) |
| 18:42.53 | teleshoes | oh nice |
| 18:43.44 | teleshoes | yup |
| 18:43.49 | teleshoes | 001 |
| 18:44.13 | teleshoes | but it looks like both "row" and "global" are variant code 001 |
| 18:44.37 | teleshoes | all the rest in navifirm are obviously crippled, branded, or country-mapped |
| 18:44.37 | ZogG_laptop | i'm not sure what is row |
| 18:44.42 | teleshoes | me either |
| 18:44.51 | ZogG_laptop | where did you get this labeling? |
| 18:44.55 | teleshoes | which is why i got deathly afraid and freaked out |
| 18:44.57 | ZogG_laptop | someone told you or something/ |
| 18:45.00 | teleshoes | navifirm! |
| 18:45.09 | ZogG_laptop | not usre |
| 18:45.22 | ZogG_laptop | global is 001 that's what you need to know |
| 18:45.33 | teleshoes | i dl'd both |
| 18:45.35 | teleshoes | both are 001 |
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| 18:53.32 | teleshoes | these are the ones that say "RM-696 64G GLOBAL BLACK SWAP (059K3S0)" |
| 18:53.33 | djszapi_ | rzr: now I am back. Coding test submitted. :) |
| 18:53.35 | teleshoes | 37883898bd9140fa3e909c5385d3f0ca DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.NOMAPS_EMMC_NOMAPS.bin |
| 18:53.35 | teleshoes | 53fcefc0033875661c19160e16999b3e DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin |
| 18:53.43 | djszapi_ | rzr: so if you can get a server for the ubild farm, that would be awesome. |
| 18:53.52 | djszapi_ | build* |
| 18:54.37 | teleshoes | djszapi, do you know whether 'global' or 'row' firmwares are right for n9 64gb unbranded nomaps? both are variant code 001 |
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| 18:55.03 | teleshoes | oh snap, theyre the same |
| 18:55.10 | teleshoes | i just md5sum'd them |
| 18:55.48 | teleshoes | ZogG_laptop, nevermind, i downloaded both, md5sum'd them, and they are the same, both emmc and firmware |
| 18:55.50 | djszapi_ | teleshoes: do not have time, sorry. |
| 18:55.54 | teleshoes | sok thx |
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| 19:00.13 | teleshoes | if anyone has a chance, could you verify that those md5sums are the right firmware/emmc to use for a generic flash? |
| 19:00.24 | teleshoes | i couldnt imagine what else would be |
| 19:00.32 | teleshoes | but i still fell lingering paranoia |
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| 19:18.53 | rashm2k | oh vladest_ |
| 19:19.11 | rashm2k | gonna setup the b ndk myself as well soon |
| 19:19.17 | rashm2k | bb10 |
| 19:19.59 | rashm2k | havig a few issues with new qt creator though + meego |
| 19:20.21 | ieatlint | the bb10 stuff looks interesting.. |
| 19:21.05 | ieatlint | was handed one of the dev alpha b phones wednesday.. nicer than i expected to be honest, and both cascades and regular qt were rather simple |
| 19:21.33 | rashm2k | yeah it looks really nice |
| 19:22.07 | rashm2k | which version of qt creator are you using? |
| 19:22.49 | ieatlint | haven't had time to try it actually, i sat through a demo where they had an unintentionally humorous slide saying qtcreator 2.6 was needed though |
| 19:23.01 | ieatlint | wasn't clear why though.. the remote deployment tools they showed exist on 2.5 |
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| 19:24.14 | SpeedEvil | interesting |
| 19:24.45 | rashm2k | one thing does puzzle me though |
| 19:25.02 | ieatlint | http://imgur.com/Ad7oE is the slide in question |
| 19:25.12 | ieatlint | i just liked that it said "Get this! (Not yet released)" |
| 19:25.29 | rashm2k | BB10 SDK and Cascades SDK is exactly the same! |
| 19:25.37 | rashm2k | very confusing! |
| 19:26.01 | ieatlint | that's unsurprising |
| 19:26.54 | rashm2k | yes - but on their website they make it appear that they are somehow two different downloads/packages/setups |
| 19:27.07 | rashm2k | https://developer.blackberry.com/platforms/ndk/ |
| 19:27.15 | vladest_ | rashm2k: what? |
| 19:27.43 | ieatlint | the downloads page clearly just labels it "blackberry 10 sdk" |
| 19:27.53 | ieatlint | shrugs |
| 19:28.15 | vladest_ | rashm2k: just download ndk |
| 19:28.19 | rashm2k | yes - but it seems the NDK is different from Cascades |
| 19:28.31 | rashm2k | even though it is not |
| 19:28.39 | vladest_ | ndk its cascades+native |
| 19:28.49 | vladest_ | afaik |
| 19:29.06 | ieatlint | shrugs |
| 19:29.20 | rashm2k | have a look at the link above |
| 19:29.29 | ieatlint | i'll write a simple app or two for it if it's indeed as simple as it looked |
| 19:29.40 | ieatlint | as much to get another notch on my belt than anything else :P |
| 19:29.43 | rashm2k | filename for Cascades = Native SDK |
| 19:30.15 | rashm2k | I'll be looking to port my app over to BB10 |
| 19:30.31 | ieatlint | i'll be very excited if they get the qt mobility nfc stuff working, complete with lower level access |
| 19:30.38 | ieatlint | which nokia was never able to get working on any device |
| 19:30.47 | rashm2k | I doubt it |
| 19:30.58 | rashm2k | they need to release the devices ASAP |
| 19:31.04 | rashm2k | maybe in the future |
| 19:31.18 | rashm2k | they seem FAR more committed to this than Nokia |
| 19:31.38 | ieatlint | yeah, nokia seemed much more like a "let's put 500 people on this and schedule daily meetings" |
| 19:31.49 | ieatlint | and rim seems to be just "ok, here's 50 people, get shit done" |
| 19:32.38 | ieatlint | (and tizen is "we have 5 guys working on that, i think") |
| 19:32.44 | rashm2k | lol |
| 19:33.20 | rashm2k | I don't think Samsungs Tizen is going to amount to aything |
| 19:33.32 | rashm2k | not sure about Jolla either |
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| 19:33.48 | rashm2k | For the next 6 months my bets are on RIM |
| 19:34.20 | ieatlint | i've been burned too many times... my collection of dead phones grows, and i stopped making bets |
| 19:34.29 | ieatlint | i need to get like a display case here |
| 19:35.01 | rashm2k | An N950 will be worth quite a bit - in a few years time |
| 19:35.17 | rashm2k | It oozes class |
| 19:35.29 | ieatlint | which is why i keep mine in a padded carrying case in a drawer |
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| 21:25.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | ieatlint: sounds about correct. and we all know maemo originated from a incredible achivement in setting up a whole new OS with ~50 people, in a time nobody else would've thought this was possible with 500 people |
| 21:27.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/nokia_hildon_the_great_lost_platform/page5.html |
| 21:27.59 | DocScrutinizer05 | scratch the /page5, sorry |
| 21:28.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | here you are: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/21/nokia_hildon_the_great_lost_platform/ |
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| 21:59.57 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: btw good that you are comming to board :P |
| 22:16.08 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm not sure I will |
| 22:16.25 | DocScrutinizer05 | I still have hope they find better candidates than me |
| 22:17.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'd honestly recommend to vote almost anybody else who's running before you consider voting for me |
| 22:17.33 | DocScrutinizer05 | I'm sort on time, lazy, and grumpy |
| 22:21.12 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: yeah grumpy |
| 22:21.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | short* |
| 22:22.12 | ZogG_laptop | DocScrutinizer05: but i think you know how to talk and you most times logical and you know what is responsobilities |
| 22:23.12 | DocScrutinizer05 | that's why I suggest to get somebody who maybe is capable to fulfill the responsibilities better than I'll be able to |
| 22:24.35 | DocScrutinizer05 | my estimated time to assign to $maemo* stuff per week is less than 2h |
| 22:25.07 | DocScrutinizer05 | which is clearly an insult to the position and its responsibilities |
| 22:26.00 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably I'll just configure council/board email account the same week my term ends ;-) |
| 22:27.06 | DocScrutinizer05 | or should I s/term/sentence/ ? ;-P |
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| 22:46.08 | ieatlint | haha, that's about how much time i'd have as well :/ |
| 22:46.31 | ieatlint | this whole employment thing is oddly time consuming |
| 22:47.14 | DocScrutinizer05 | indeed |
| 22:53.36 | merlin1991 | flashes n9 for the 4th time |
| 23:05.05 | DocScrutinizer05 | probably you'll have used up your free shots soon |
| 23:06.18 | DocScrutinizer05 | definitely you'll have used up your allowed number of installations on any ovi-store sold software |
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